/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.10235035]

Dinosaur Edition.
>What enjoyable pre 1990 book are you reading?
>What is it about?
>Recommend a fossil fuel novel that would be enjoyable by persons of today.

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries (incomplete, mostly pre-Millenium):
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>>10212601

[Anonymous No.10235045]

[Anonymous No.10235046]

>>10232651
Starmaker by olaf s
Just what you want, human philosophy and god philosophy was pretty shit for me, but you might like it

[Anonymous No.10235060]

Just finished Queen of the Black Coast.
>tfw no psychotic exhibitionist pirate queen gf who will protect you beyond the chains of death

[Anonymous No.10235081]

I got up to the beginning of book 7 and I couldn't take it anymore. Every book had some contrived new bad guy pop up, and spent half the book introducing all the new characters before anything could happen. Most of the characters ended up dead by the end of each book too.
On top of that Richard spends the entire time being a total bitch. The moment a woman gives him a mean look he rolls over and presents.

[Anonymous No.10235083]

>>10235035
>book reading right now
Hero of Dreams by Brian Lumley
>what is it about
Isekai in Lovecraft's Dreamlands
>recommend a fossil fuel
The Conan stories by Robert E. Howard

[Anonymous No.10235098]

>>10235081
Yeah tried reading that shit myself, seems like it's the kinda of thing you need to experience as a teenager.

>>10235035
Reading an ass load of pulp in preparation for my own web novel

[Anonymous No.10235204]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.10235221]

Any good action fantasy/sci-fi that focus on an elaborate arena/game show? Anything from standard roman gladiators to stuff like The Running Man (movie more than book, only watched it, think the book was significantly different). Red Rising had a nice one in the first book, already read that.

[Anonymous No.10235253]

>>10235081
I liked Debt of Bones back in the day, maybe he would be better off sticking to shorter novels. It's the same vibe I was getting bout Brandon Sanderson after I read The Emperor's Soul.

[Anonymous No.10235275]

>>10235253
My biggest issue with it was the constant introduction of new bad guys. Each book is mostly self contained, and that slows the pacing of the overreaching plot down to a crawl. I didn't give a shit about sanctimonious rapist baddie #5 and devoting three quarters of the book to what is essentially an uninteresting monster of the week just made it a drag.
Could be much more readable if all that had just been edited out and the series condensed a bunch.

[Anonymous No.10235365]

>>10235035
>What enjoyable pre 1990 book are you reading?
Right now, none. Next book in my read queue is Heinlein's Time Enough for Love, I assume I will enjoy it.
>What is it about?
Lazarus Long, the worlds oldest asshole.
>Recommend a fossil fuel novel that would be enjoyable by persons of today.
The Island of Doctor Moreau

[Anonymous No.10235443]

>>10235035
>>Recommend a fossil fuel novel that would be enjoyable by persons of today.
The Worm Ouroboros is the pinnacle of high fantasy. Everything that's come afterwards pales in comparison.

[Anonymous No.10235534]

fuck /sffg/ I took your advice and wrote, even when it was coming out shitty. It worked and I made progress but there's so much horrible writing that I'll have to do over.

Im not sure if this was the right choice

[Anonymous No.10235538]

>>10235534
That's called a second draft.

[Anonymous No.10235814]

>>10235534
Don't write
Don't read
Just shill Peter Watts

[Anonymous No.10235942]

>>10235814
...woah

[Anonymous No.10236059]

Goodreads is really useless, they make it way too hard to discover new things

[Anonymous No.10236061]

>>10235221
Is Hunger Games or Battle Royale too obvious?

[Anonymous No.10236074]

>>10236059
Good for a laugh though

[Anonymous No.10236513]

>>10235098
>web novel
Distributing it on your own website? Also why are you electing to go this route? Couldn't get a real publisher?

[Anonymous No.10236514]

Why is it so hard to find novels where mature beauties are being reamed by a sprouse young buck?

[Anonymous No.10236531]

>>10236059
Goodreads is great for keeping track of your reading, your favourite authors and your friends but it's basically worthless for recommendations.

[Anonymous No.10236586]

>>10236513
>"get a real publisher"
>submit your manuscript to fifty different agents on the off chance one of them likes it
>if they do they submit it to the Big Five on the off chance an editor there likes it
>if you win this double Powerball congratulations, they will put your book in a few stores with a crappy cover on it and pay you a small royalty
>you still have to promote it though
Real publishers are in a very bad state right now. Not only would he get his work in front of readers much faster, possibly years faster, he might just get more people to read it. It's not like that many authors with real publishers make a living on it anyway.

[Anonymous No.10236643]

>>10235098
>Reading an ass load of pulp in preparation for my own web novel
I am doing the same but reading some nonfiction adventure for inspiration. What kind of pulp are you writing?

[Anonymous No.10236654]

>>10235221
The first Acts of Caine book

[Anonymous No.10236688]

>>10236059
After about a year of adding books their reccomendation algorithm isn't completely awful for me, but it's still pretty fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.10236723]

>>10236688
Even a more advanced search system would be helpful. Being able to find books genre tagged a certain way that are released in a certain year or span of years would be great.

[Anonymous No.10236788]

Any good superhero novels? Or is that even much of a genre for actual books? I know there's that superheros vs. zombies series, but I'd rather read straight up superhero novels.

[Anonymous No.10236810]

>>10236788
Early Worm

[Anonymous No.10236811]

>>10236788
Soon I Will Be Invincible was pretty good.

[Anonymous No.10236814]

Alright amigos, starting Hyperion now. What am I in for? Also should I just read Hyperion, or also Fall of Hyperion?
>>10235221
Read "Arena" by Fredric Brown. It's only a short story, but you won't regret it.

[Anonymous No.10236821]

>>10236814
Was that the one where the spaceman fights the sphere monster? I recall enjoying that one.

Yes, read Fall, it's not as good but it has the same kind of silly grandiosity and it ties up a bunch of loose ends.

[Anonymous No.10236825]

Anybody know of a political intrigue kind of story within fantasy or sci-fi? With different houses or clans. I recently read The curse of chalion and it had a bit of this.

[Anonymous No.10236826]

>>10236821
That's the one. Fredric Brown is a master of short stories. As for Hyperion, will do. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10236858]

>>10235221
Ryk E. Spoor has a series called "Grand Central Arena" which is about a bunch of astronauts getting marooned on a giant alien space-arena.

The entire Battle Angel Alita series has several game shows on it as I recall. Motorball in the original series and Last Order has a couple tournament arcs in it.

[Anonymous No.10236859]

>>10236825
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

[Anonymous No.10236875]

fuck, I didn't plan my ending well enough and I wrote myself into a corner.

[Anonymous No.10236884]

>>10236825
Read "The Traitor Baru Cormorant."

[Anonymous No.10236922]

>>10236531

Alternative? (Other than /lit)

[Anonymous No.10236945]

>>10236825

That's part of the 'Red Rising' sequence; both noble houses, as well as socio-economic clans. But it's much more on action than world-building.

[Anonymous No.10236976]

>>10236875
Very unfortunate. How will you resolve it?

[Anonymous No.10236996]

>>10235443
>demonland
>witchland
>impland
Wow nice naming convention

[Anonymous No.10237035]

>>10235534
>Im not sure if this was the right choice
It was. You first have to make a mess before cleaning it up. The real writing is in rewriting.

[Anonymous No.10237039]

>>10236976
I've thought over how I can fix it with minimal backtracking. Maybe 6 edited sentences, three rewritten paragraphs.

The shitty part is that I'm certain I'm forgetting something and I can't remember what. I was at dinner when I posted this, away from my laptop and unable to make a note...

...and I literally just remembered as I was writing this.

Okay. This? This I can do. That said, it's still going to need re-writing. This action sequence is turning out pretty fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.10237046]

>>10236875
Stick another problem in there that's a way out in disguise.

[Anonymous No.10237130]

>>10236723
>dinofag wants sff from before 1960 but is mad goodreads is not enabling
Not their failing you don't know to use goodreads' rating system to your advantage faggot. You probably one of those low iq fags who has to be told what the book was about, even after finishing the book yourself.

[Anonymous No.10237150]

>>10237039
>>10236875

[Anonymous No.10237228]

this be good? just looking for some good fantasy adventure right now, nothing too heavy.

[Anonymous No.10237238]

>>10237228
>got yer sword lol

[Anonymous No.10237253]

>>10236825
it's historical fiction but Robert Harris' Cicero trilogy is almost purely political chicanery.

[Anonymous No.10237258]

>>10236059
the personal recommendations are shit but the 'readers also enjoyed'' thing isn't too bad.

[Anonymous No.10237315]

>>10237228
Yes Riyria Revelations and Riyria Chronicles are both worth reading. You can skip The Legends of the First Empire tho.

[Anonymous No.10237385]

>>10237228
>>10237315
What is the gist of this, is it as generically potboilerish as it looks?

[Anonymous No.10237391]

Quick question for sci-fi aficionados. How are those Expanse novels? Worth reading? I admit, the only science-fiction I've read in years is William Gibson's The Peripheral.

[Anonymous No.10237461]

>>10237391
The first two are good enough, but then it all goes downhill.

[Anonymous No.10237506]

Tess of the D’Urbervilles was good

[Anonymous No.10237603]

>>10235221
Player of Games by Iain Banks
>>10235275
I used to love Goodkind back in the day, the first 4 SOT novels are god-tier and the series quickly goes downhill after that. I picked up the Omen Machine recently and dropped it about halfway through, it was so bad.

I'm going through a rare reading slump and don't have a desire to read anything new. Re-reading old Redwall novels, mostly before bed.

[Anonymous No.10237636]

>>10237603
What would you say is your favorite Redwall book?

[Anonymous No.10237638]

>>10236884
Seconding this

[Anonymous No.10237642]

>>10237228
No.
>>10237385
Yes, it's shit and I don't get why /sffg/ likes it.

[Anonymous No.10237839]

>>10236586
They mostly want celebrities, politicians or those who already built their own audience thro' other channels.
Or SJW trend of the month.

[Anonymous No.10237854]

>>10236825
Any Pratchett novel featuring Vetinari.

The Goblin Emperor, though I thought it was boring.

[Anonymous No.10237869]

Anyone read any other quasi-baudrillard post-human sex robot stuff?

[Anonymous No.10237874]

>>10237642
>Yes, it's shit and I don't get why /sffg/ likes it.

For the same reason movie fans like The Last Action Hero, Total Recall, Commando, Universal Soldier, Cobra, Demolition Man, etc.

[Anonymous No.10237879]

>>10237642
>i don't like something
>it's shit, how can other people like these things
>my tastes and likes are the base for what everyone should aspire
>like what I like, I know better than you

[Anonymous No.10237885]

>tfw just finished heretics of dune
>tfw just finished southern reach trilogy (fuck all three of these books, m8s, don't waste your time)
Fucking christ. Going to read canticle for leibowitz. Putting my faith in you guys.

[Anonymous No.10237886]

>>10237869
The Quantum Thief, probably. Really interesting but I think I need to read it again to make sure I got it.

[Anonymous No.10237891]

>>10237869
>minority report

[Anonymous No.10237902]

There was a pretty funny Dune chart poster here yesterday. I forgot to save it though. Does anyone here tonight have it?

[Anonymous No.10237907]

>>10237902
Look in the fucking op, and go to yesterday's thread you fucking lazy ass mouth breather piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.10237910]

>>10237891
There aren't any sexbots in Minority Report, though.

[Anonymous No.10237915]

>>10237910
No... your pic was minority report

[Anonymous No.10237920]

>>10237886
>The Quantum Thief
Reading about it now.
>xenomemory
>extended lifespans
Wow, it really has a lot in common with Jynabare +2. I'll have to check it out.
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.10237922]

>>10237915
No, my pic was from an indy book I picked up on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Jynabare-2-R-Jesse-Deneaux/dp/1542570093/
Does MP have a similar cover?

[Anonymous No.10237924]

>>10236586
In the publishing world it's all about marketing. If you want the publisher to take you seriously then you need to be aggressive in selling yourself, and I mean really aggressive. How you write is almost totally irrelevant, you could be a total hack with no original ideas, but if you self publish and then promote yourself aggressively in every venue you can get access to then you will eventually meet somebody influential who can give you a real publishing deal and it will probably be much, much better than if you had gone the route of submitting a manuscript to them, because now they came to you and will try to entice you by offering you money up front.

But to get that you have to be tenacious, relentless, and shameless. What I described is how Christopher Paolini got published at Knopf Books when he was 21 years old. The man can't write a good book to save his life but he worked his ass off promoting himself for a year to land that publishing deal.

[Anonymous No.10237925]

>>10237907
Hey thanks buddy. I never noticed those links before. After I didn't find the previous thread in the catalog, I figured it was gone. Have a great night friendo!

[Anonymous No.10237926]

>>10237920
>battle autism
>weaponized memes
>4chan in novel form
Once you were born and grown here you will enjoy it... although book 2 and 3 is something else..

[Anonymous No.10237932]

>>10237924
Are you me?
These are all facts.

[Anonymous No.10237935]

>>10237926
Color me intrigued.
I've wanted to esplore weaponized autism for a while now, as per the Finno-Korean Hyperwar.

[Anonymous No.10237938]

>>10237922
You never saw the movie did you?

[Anonymous No.10237948]

>>10237938
I saw the hell out of that movie.
I get what you mean, now that I see the tanks.

[Anonymous No.10237979]

>>10237636
Not him but I love the creepy Redwall books like Mattimeo, finding that post-apocalyptic abbey with the old blind rabbit going "doom, doom" in front of it was awesome. Then there was the badger novel where we see the cave paintings of all the badger lords and the future ones are there too. They did so well with just a touch of the supernatural.

[Anonymous No.10238227]

can we have the mods ban anyone who further rec's name of the wind?

thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.10238242]

>>10238227
I'd rec burning The Name of the Wind, possibly using Rothfuss' beard as fuel

[Anonymous No.10238245]

>expect colony building
>get asian space cults instead

Well I guess

[Anonymous No.10238318]

>>10237636
My personal favorite is Outcast of Redwall. I definitely identified with the villain as a child (and still do I guess) also:
Mossflower
Pearls of Lutra
Taggerung
Rackety Tam
>>10237885
Canticle is good but super slow, I honestly enjoyed the Wild Horse Woman better. It is somehow more straightforward but still has that weird slightly metaphysical/post-nuclear bent.
>>10237979
Doomwyte is one of the later books and out of the whole series it definitely has an odd, bleak tone that sets it apart. Any of the books are great for a few days of escapism. RIP Brian Jacques

[Anonymous No.10238326]

>>10238318
Christ I remember loving the shit out of Redwall. Mossflower was the one with Luke and the Wildcat prince right? And the Owl? Great shit.
I've never forgotten Taggerun either. I don't know what made it so memorable, but it's stuck with me.

[Anonymous No.10238337]

>>10238326
I think you're mixing up Mossflower with Legend of Luke.

[Anonymous No.10238342]

>>10238337
Could be, it's been a long time. Thinking back it's pretty disconcerting how brutal the books could be considering on the surface it was a series about cute woodland critters.

[Anonymous No.10238346]

>>10238318
Pearls of Lutra was amazing, I think I read it three times. Pirate action fighting lizards on an island. Great stuff.

>>10238337
Mossflower's the one where there's an oppressive wildcat noble family living in a castle and Luke redirects a river to drown it. Then he founds Redwall. Legend of Luke was about escaping slavery or something.

[Anonymous No.10238363]

Martin is the main character in Mossflower, not his father Luke. Martin the Warrior is the one about escaping slavery. As far as I can remember Legend of Luke is the only Redwall book that Luke is actually in.

[Anonymous No.10238382]

>>10237879
You don't think you're inferring a little too much there buddy?

[Anonymous No.10238385]

>>10238227
I just got a job at a bookshop and I'm going to rec it to every normie who walks in and there's nothing /sffg/ can do to stop me

[Anonymous No.10238404]

>>10238363
Right, right, Martin. Got the names mixed up.

[Anonymous No.10238438]

>>10238404
Sounds like you need to re-read those books mah boi!

[Anonymous No.10238459]

>>10238438
say it again in a mole accent so the rest of the thread can make fun of you

[Anonymous No.10238465]

>>10238385
Eventually somebody is going to start a lynch mob.

[Anonymous No.10238518]

>>10238465
speaking of lynch

http://www.helsinkitimes.fi/culture/14975-worldcon-75-interview-with-author-scott-lynch.html

>Great! Now for example, George R.R. Martin and Patrick Rothfuss get a whole lot of crap from people about being late with their novels...
>[sighs] They do, yes, it’s kind of ridiculous sometimes. Pat gets a tremendous amount of vituperation, online in particular. I mean, George gets it, but George is also kind of above it. George doesn’t really give a shit; George is big enough to not give a shit, and Pat is still, relatively speaking, a little bit closer to his readers and does not quite have a Scrooge McDuck money-bin to dive into just yet. I mean, he doesn’t do badly for himself, but Pat gets, I think, the most vicious of all the online comments, and I just don’t understand it. We are human beings, we are human artists, we produce at the rate we produce, and telling us that you really want our work, but that you fucking hate us and that we should nail ourselves to our desks and produce until it’s finished… it doesn’t make any sense. You can’t have both. "You’re a lazy bastard! Now give me that thing that I really want that’s beautiful, that only you do!" [laughter]

vituperation is a nice word at least

[Anonymous No.10238531]

>>10238518
>we produce at the rate we produce
Unless the wrong person is President

[Anonymous No.10238536]

>>10238531
painfully obvious he was already scrambling given how much of a mish-mash of shit the 2nd book is. 2011? What a fraud.

[Anonymous No.10238537]

Is this worth reading if I enjoyed Ender's Game?

[Anonymous No.10238577]

For some reason I was driven to try some female protag books lately, and I'd just like to pass on Magister Trilogy by Celia Friedman.

Multiperspective trilogy, so not really a female protag exclusively, but as far as dark fantasy goes I really, really enjoyed it. It's not grimdark, but it's serious and the plot escalates tension really well in each book with the stakes getting progressively higher. There's sex in it, but it's not gratuitous, and the latter two books have a sort of beastial conflict, and a primal sexual aspect to them that's hard to describe without spoilers, but I really appreciated the unique race of beasts that exists in that world.

So yeah, would recommend if anyone is looking to pick something up.

[Anonymous No.10238583]

>>10238537
Probably not.

[Anonymous No.10238617]

Are there any good fantasy books where the world got destroyed in an apocalypse and society went back to swords and feudalism?

[Anonymous No.10238619]

>>10238617
broken empire

[Anonymous No.10238623]

>>10238617
botns

[Anonymous No.10238709]

is this as awful as it appears to be?

[Anonymous No.10238785]

I'm quite surprised how refreshing it is for a author not to go full intellectually wankery when it comes to deities/religion, kind of like a positive version of early Stephen King.

[Anonymous No.10238804]

>>10238617
Into the badlands

[Anonymous No.10238832]

>>10238617
A Canticle for Leibowitz.

It's actually a relatively common theme. If you want one where society went back to swords and feudalism and then made their way back to factories and spaceships, Orion Shall Rise.

[Anonymous No.10238891]

>This Census-Taker
>Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #113,785
Is Mieville's career over?

[Anonymous No.10238897]

>>10238891

how's his russian revolution glorification doing?

[Anonymous No.10238899]

Anything in the way of time travel that you guys can recommend?

[Anonymous No.10238907]

>>10238899
City Beyond Time. Wright knows how to take advantage of the inherent absurdity of time travel.
>tfw it's impossible to invent time travel, it has to be given to inventors by deranged future versions of themselves

[Anonymous No.10238914]

>>10238897
>Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #11,967 in Books
Actually it seems to be rather successful for the small niche its published under, but that's still only like 15~ sales a day.

[Anonymous No.10238920]

>>10238914
wish he'd revisit bas-lag but seems a vanishing prospect

[Anonymous No.10238927]

>>10238619

He asked for good fantasy. You mistakenly recommended garbage.

[Anonymous No.10239193]

I'm a brainlet that finds himself forgetting important plot points of books I've read barely a year or two ago.

Should I try to make small essays about chapters as I read? Should I just read said books again? There's no time to re-read shit with the thousands of books to read before you die

[Anonymous No.10239300]

>>10239193
>Should I just read said books again?
Yes anon. I have the same gift and it allows me to reread books over and over and over.

[Anonymous No.10239309]

>>10236996

>England
>Ireland
>Scotland

Fucking plebs, no imagination at all

[Anonymous No.10239345]

Anyone know any good fantasy about Dynastic politics?

[Anonymous No.10239360]

>>10239193
you think thats bad?
my memory is sound based.
i associate things and events based on the background noise, voices or music that has been playing at the time.
if i dont see someone for like a week i forget what they looj like. even my own family. ill insantly know who someone is by the way the move or how they sound though.
doesnt help that i have tinitus in both ears.

[Anonymous No.10239364]

>>10239345
shogun, the first book in the asian saga is pretty good. its specifically japanese politics in a time where the west is seen as uncivilized savages by the east.

[Anonymous No.10239384]

>>10238577
I liked the coldfire trilogy. Maybe I’ll give this a go

[Anonymous No.10239388]

>>10238617
Deathgate cycle

[Anonymous No.10239449]

>>10238914
That is interesting. How do you calculate the books per day to sales position?

[Anonymous No.10239484]

>>10239449
Amazons algorithms are solvable, just throw the sellers rank in a calculator and it'll throw out a accurate estimate or you could check similarly ranked items with novelrank.

[Anonymous No.10239498]

>>10239484
Thanks, amigo.
>tfw still in the bottom millionth % of sales...

[Anonymous No.10239510]

I finished reading two essays written by Asimov about Physics in general and another about Space and the greatest discoveries made by humans. What else can I read from the same author? I found these two books at home but I'm planning to buy more

[Anonymous No.10239530]

>>10239193
>There's no time to re-read shit with the thousands of books to read before you die
If the book in question is actually better than the potential book it's fine to sacrifice a new book for a reread. Taking notes is a good idea.

[Anonymous No.10239537]

Once again, I come to you guys a broken man. Please recommend me something. Just no YA. I've read most common stuff like Malazan, ASoIaF, PoN, WoT, First Law, etc. Is there any new epic fantasy series?

[Anonymous No.10239546]

>>10239537
Try Red Sister by Mark Lawrence. Or give the Blurb a look anyway.

[Anonymous No.10239551]

>>10239546
I heard Mark Lawrence reads like YA except with gratuitous rape and death put in to make it look edgy. Is that false?

[Anonymous No.10239556]

>>10239551
So far as I've read into red sister, it's false. Although there is rape and death. It's handled with appropriate magnitude.

[Anonymous No.10239559]

>>10239556
Oh, I don't mind. I really like PoN and Berserk, but stuff like the Name of the Wind scarred me forever and I'm afraid of going through that again. But thank you! I'm going to give it a shot.

[Anonymous No.10239743]

>>10238537
It's better than the Ender books with Aaron Johnston but not nearly as good as the originals.

[Anonymous No.10239899]

>it's anime but I like it
What's it called, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.10239920]

>>10236586
>>10237924
Okay, so you start self-publishing and hope to get a real publisher afterwards. But what methods of self-publishing are the best? Web-novel, amazon?

[Anonymous No.10239958]

>>10239899
Will Wright

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10240051]

>>10239364
I'm going to assume you're the anon who has been recommending "Shogun" in the last few threads: have you read Clavell's "King Rat"?
I found it to be an even more interesting read than "Shogun". I enjoyed the contrast of the old Empire's military culture and demographics against the American.

[Anonymous No.10240079]

>>10239899
>>10239958

seconded

[Anonymous No.10240483]

>>10238459
hurr hurrmm sounds loik you'm need ta reads that um book agin' mah boi

[Anonymous No.10240566]

Is there any metafictional fantasy? Stuff that actually dicks around with the genre? Maybe something where some of the characters are aware that they're in a book like Undertale?

[Anonymous No.10240611]

>>10238577
If you haven't read it, The Deed of Paksenarrion is worth a look.

[Anonymous No.10240616]

This was great; is the rest of his stuff like this?

[Anonymous No.10240702]

>>10240566
There's House of Leaves, but that's more horror than fantasy.

[Anonymous No.10240722]

Hear me out on this:

>A group of characters get on the same subway car at midnight
>One by one they realize the train is passing their stops without letting them disembark
>The train goes for hours before pulling to a stop in a station they've never seen before
>An annoucement says the line is now out of service
>They get out and find no cars on the street, the asphalt choked with undergrowth
>All of these characters are now trapped in a fantastic other city, and their only way to get home is on foot

[Anonymous No.10240728]

>>10240616
kind of
his earliest trilogy is a weird synthesis of multiple mythologies and is very reminiscent of tolkien (iirc GGK helped christopher tolkien edit together many of his father's manuscripts, he was critical in publishing the silmarillion)
most of his later stuff is based around different times in different periods (wikipedia tells which very plainly in his author page) with fantasy elements added (he transitioned to a more historical fantasy style)
I haven't read all his stuff but I definitely recommend Under Heaven (8th century china) and Sailing to Sarantium & Lord of Emperors (based on Justinian's byzantium)

[Anonymous No.10240730]

>>10240722
Digimon?

[Anonymous No.10240734]

>>10239537
Try pic related. I read it a few months back and remember enjoying it. It's kind of similar in style to WoT, but a lot better imo (and takes 10 less books to finish).

[Anonymous No.10240749]

>>10240730
fuck, was that literally a digimon arc?

[Anonymous No.10240793]

>>10236825
Dune

[Anonymous No.10240855]

Why is it so hard to find books with older women and younger men?
All the Romance women write is some 20 something year old skank who get visited by some super rich millionaire/billionaire older guy. Who takes her out of poverty, shows her the finer things in life and dicks her socks off.

What about the younger males? Can't we have older women looking to get dicked? Or better yet, taking a shy younger male and molding him into a dicking machine?

[Anonymous No.10240930]

>>10235221
Player Of Games, of the Culture saga. Might suit your request, but its more like meta chess game than a battle royale arena.

[Anonymous No.10240935]

>>10240611
My main criticism of that was despite some foreshadowing, the ending felt really convenient. Not a bad book though, and Paksenarrion is a decent heroine.

[Anonymous No.10240949]

>>10240566
The Dark Lord of Derkholm.

[Anonymous No.10240966]

>>10240855
Because it's mostly a male fantasy and men don't read romance novels/erotica.

[Anonymous No.10240973]

>>10240966
Came to say this.
Dubs confirm truth
>female erotica does explore the Cougar trope a bit more frequently, however.

[Anonymous No.10240985]

Any decent crime/underworld focused fantasy asides locke lamora?

[Anonymous No.10241145]

>>10240855
the felurian was this pretty much. says it all really.

[Anonymous No.10241153]

>>10240616
I read Al-Rassan and Under Haven in addition to Tigana and desu no but for me that was an improvement.

[Anonymous No.10241184]

>>10240985
Perdido Street Station

[Anonymous No.10241201]

soon

[Anonymous No.10241226]

>>10241201
Oh shit I forgot that is released this month. But I want to wait til it comes out in trade paperback so it matches my other two.

[Anonymous No.10241229]

>>10240734
I liked WoT but I couldn't even finish the first book of this series. I just felt like the author tipped his hand way too early and had nothing left to keep me interested.

[Anonymous No.10241241]

Yo, are these books actually good?

I don't read a ton of fantasy but I enjoy Tolkien and Gene Wolfe and the occasional Conan story.

[Anonymous No.10241257]

>>10241241
>I enjoy Tolkien and Gene Wolfe
Cook is nothing like either of them. So unless you want something completely different than what you like, I have no idea if you'll enjoy im.

[Anonymous No.10241291]

>>10241257

That's not what I asked

[Anonymous No.10241303]

>>10239537
you didn't mention LotR

[Anonymous No.10241318]

>>10239537
unhewn throne

[Anonymous No.10241321]

I am reading Roger Zelaznys This Immortal
In a post apocalyptic word, aliens are buying up earths history and culture and prime real estate
Some ancient gods engage in trickery and shenanigans to prevent this

[Anonymous No.10241335]

>>10240616

I've only read A Song for Arbonne, but I can wholeheartedly recommend that. It's an entertaining fantasy adventure with a classical feel.

[Anonymous No.10241352]

bump limit reached >>>/t/680325 thought you'd like to see it before it died

[Anonymous No.10241395]

>>10240051
nope not that anon sorry.
i read shogun on a whim because i played nioh and found out its based on a true story.
ended up enjoying the book way more than the game.

[Anonymous No.10241404]

>>10241291
It doesn't matter if it's good or not, all that matters is if you enjoy reading it. You said you enjoyed Tolkien and Wolfe, their writing styles are totally different from Cook's. There's no basis to assume you'd enjoy Cook based on those two authors regardless of how "good" you think he is.

[Anonymous No.10241452]

>>10239537
Stormligjt archive

[Anonymous No.10241459]

>>10241352
I keep putting it off. I need to go ahead and buy a HDD just for it...

[Anonymous No.10241462]

>>10239537
try the Gene Wolf memes or The Way of Kings, Words of Radiance and Oathbringer by Brandon Sanderson

[Anonymous No.10241523]

what are some books with GOOD female MC or love interests
pic not related

[Anonymous No.10241586]

what are some good examples of body horror?

I'm thinking like that guy from naruto whose body had bugs burrowing through it. Shit like that

[Anonymous No.10241616]

Why do authors who have never been to war always drone on about how shit war is way more than authors who have?

[Anonymous No.10241636]

>>10241523
See the Magister trilogy recommended earlier in the story. I'd also say the female perspective characters in Brent Weeks' lightbringer series are very good.

[Anonymous No.10241696]

>>10241636
i've tried to read Lightbringer but the MC was really obnoxious

[Anonymous No.10241728]

>>10241523

[Anonymous No.10241756]

>>10239537
the darkness that comes before. Its quite edgy but the writing is good and the magic system is very comfy. Honestly everything about the series is great but if youre bothered by edginess you wont like it. The writer has a phd in philosophy and has some interesting crank views so you can enjoy that too.

[Anonymous No.10241762]

>>10241241
They're comfy, especially the first few. Some people like them less after (minor spoiler) they go south

[Anonymous No.10241790]

>>10241523
Most of Elizabeth Moon's characters.

LMMB's Vorskorgian series.

Adelle Mundy from David Drake's RCN series, a intensely driven and somewhat psychopathic librarian turned intelligence officer.

[Anonymous No.10241813]

>>10241586
The Ruins by Scott Smith. You better have a strong constitution. Also, don't read anything about the book. Go at it cold.

[Anonymous No.10241900]

I've been listening to pic related and holy fuck this is the pinnacle of Audiobooks. Having a full cast of actors and sound effects along with a 10/10 music score is incredible.

>Look up to see what other books they do
>Westernshit
>Capeshit

What the fuck man.

[Anonymous No.10241921]

>>10241900
Trucker money man. Gotta have something to keep you from dying of boredom while you're driving 14 hours a day, especially if you're doing amphetamines and falsifying your records so you can drive more than that to meet deadlines.

[Anonymous No.10241929]

>>10241523
divine cities

[Anonymous No.10241932]

>>10241900
It's got night's angel, mistborn and demon cycle.

[Anonymous No.10242147]

>>10240985
>decent
>Locke Lamora
Pick one

[Anonymous No.10242210]

>>10241616
It's a cultural signal. Treating war as this monster that is always always always worse than any kind of peace is standard for a certain segment of the Western population, and they aren't the ones that fight in them.

[Anonymous No.10242217]

>>10242210
>john c wright

i tip my fedora to you fellow redditer

[Anonymous No.10242225]

>>10242217
he has been summoned

[Anonymous No.10242242]

>>10242210
I found this essay extremely funny.

[Anonymous No.10242275]

>>10242210
And yet it is also the people who have never been to war who scream loudest in favor for it.

[Anonymous No.10242281]

>>10242275
You got a source on that?

[Anonymous No.10242305]

>>10239309
>hellas
>magyarorszag
>suomi
>osterreich
>shqiperia
>srbija
>eesti
>polska

Get some imagination

[Anonymous No.10242311]

Just finished Name of the Wind and Wise Mans Fear, what do I read next?

I really liked the world building and the setting and how magic and other things worked, but I felt the writer took too long in some parts, and skimmed over other parts too quick too. And the whole 'romance' shit was a drag to get through.

[Anonymous No.10242316]

>>10242311
Nothing, gouge out your eyeballs.

[Anonymous No.10242318]

>>10242305

[Anonymous No.10242321]

>>10242210
Wow it's almost like it's not black and white, holy shet.

[Anonymous No.10242324]

>>10242318
Top kek, saved

[Anonymous No.10242348]

>>10242318
You know, ironically, for most of their history both Engerland and Japan were shit maritime powers.

[Anonymous No.10242369]

just started the very last book of the sequel series to this, and holy fuck has this been a wild ride. I'm on the lookout for something new to read once I'm done, and I want another investment like this. Something long, with consequences and side characters that eventually grow along with the mc. I've gone through most of the entry level fantasy like Sanderson, Tolkien and WoT.

Overall so far an excellent series, the first three were pretty barebones and felt more like a dnd campaign than a fantasy novel but as soon as the author returned with the sequel it went from 6.5/10 to a solid 9 imo wud recommend.

[Anonymous No.10242383]

Would you guys rate the Mistborn series?

[Anonymous No.10242398]

>>10242383
it starts strong and as much as its a meme at this point it does have a really interesting magic system, but it really drags on toward the end of the first trilogy, and the power creep and formularity gets predictable and annoying. I loved it the first time I read it, and the same goes for all of the cosmere, but on re-reads and after reading well written books from other authors it really got stale.

The second series feels more like a YA series, but the setting is really interesting and there's less power creep. It felt like I was reading a comic book though. A very good and well made comic, but censored under the big two.

[Anonymous No.10242408]

>>10242383
It's okay in the way becoming a real estate agent, getting married to a woman you have sex with twice a week, having two unremarkable kids, retiring at 65 and spending the rest of your life watching cricket and drinking beer is okay.

[Anonymous No.10242425]

>>10242383
I liked the first book but the second and third were not as entertaining.

I've only read the first book in the sequel series but I thought it was better, limiting people to only having one of each power type was a good choice to keep things grounded.

[Anonymous No.10242447]

>>10242408
That sounds pretty comfy to me desu

[Anonymous No.10242460]

What are some top-tier Fantasy standalones? I'm in the mood for a single book that is satisfying to read without needing a series.

[Anonymous No.10242467]

>>10242460
Face in the Frost.

[Anonymous No.10242497]

>>10242460
Perdido Street Station

[Anonymous No.10242530]

>>10242281
The only surprise on that list is de Camp supported the Vietnam war.

[Anonymous No.10242531]

>>10242460
Redemption of Althalas

[Anonymous No.10242592]

>tfw it's time for sffg again
Should I read Lies of Locke Lamora, Assassin's Apprentice or Time Enough for Love?

[Anonymous No.10242763]

>>10240855
In the warded man series. The demon of the desert has an older wife... who took him out of poverty, showed him how to dick like a machine...

[Anonymous No.10242785]

>>10241321
Thanks. I liked Lord of light. Added.

[Anonymous No.10242798]

>>10241813
Wasn't that a movie? I already knows what happens cellphone rings, bloodshot eyes was there ever a part 2?

[Anonymous No.10242825]

>>10242318
Mapfags are always autistic retards. The behave like their is logic why shit is where it is, when in real life it doesn't work that way.

[Anonymous No.10242829]

>>10242369
>a new shill arises
>the old shill is dead
>long live the shill

[Anonymous No.10242835]

>>10239537
I am in the same boat as you anon. I have read a lot of fantasies from the last 5-10 years recently. Here are the ones that stood out to me.
Blood song is sick. 2nd book not so much.
Stormlight Archive as others have mentioned. You won't regret reading it. The next big fantasy series.
Dawn of Wonder the wakening is comfy. I enjoyed it so much. Not quite YA, Not quite not YA. Likeable Tom Sawyeresque protagonist.

[Anonymous No.10242844]

>>10242425
Hurr durr.
>Because people had all the powerz the book is bad
>Books are better when everyone has one power
>The more boring a novel, the better
>I do not like fun
Off yourself.

[Anonymous No.10242846]

>>10241462
>Wants a comfy fantasy series to enjoy.
>Recommends Gene Wolf.

[Anonymous No.10242856]

>>10242408
Heh. Yes that is the perfect description for Sandersonesque.

[Anonymous No.10242878]

>>10239537
>>10239559
PoN?

[Anonymous No.10242880]

>>10242835
>Stormlight Archive
>not YA-tier

[Anonymous No.10242894]

>>10242880
>LOTR is YA now also.
It's not edgy or filled with degeneracy, but it's a good solid epic fantasy.

[Anonymous No.10242902]

>>10241523
>female mc
>good

[Anonymous No.10242905]

Why are Western authors so bad at waifus?

[Anonymous No.10242911]

>>10242905
They're surrounded by masculine women, how would they know what feminine women act like?

[Anonymous No.10242912]

>>10242894
The writing is easy and Stormlight is literally about a couple of young people growing into their responsibilities and dealing with their older relatives. What's YA is kinda subjective but Stormlight is about as close to a textbook definition you'll get.

LotR on the other hand is about a couple of old fucks doing their duty and reading it demand slightly more of you than time.

[Anonymous No.10242914]

>>10242911
>Torlocks are femdomfags
Checks out.

[Anonymous No.10242931]

>>10242592
Locke Lamora sucks ass. Don’t waste your time.

[Anonymous No.10242939]

>>10242912
>he doesn't like coming of age stories.

[Anonymous No.10242947]

>>10242798
The movie is 2/10, the book is 10/10.

[Anonymous No.10242950]

>>10242939
I do, but I don't try to pretend they're it's not YA when they're clearly YA.

[Anonymous No.10242982]

>>10242210
That shit was way to intelligent for me, explain to a retard pls.

[Anonymous No.10243007]

A fast-paced 50's revenge SF novel of teleportation, inter-planetary warfare, cargo cults, prison escape, gratuitous violence, rape, corporate intrigue, bio-modification, telepathy, atom bomb analogies and synaesthesia. This was enjoyable even with some of its shortcomings, a little dialogue on the comic book scale, and perhaps being too brisk and madcap here and there. Aside from the action, the most interesting thing about this book is the portrayal of an Earth society that has been completely re-restructured after the discovery of teleportation. I can appreciate how this book would have blown the minds of a teenager in 1956, and it's still a fun read. 4/5 dinosaurs, sits among the best I've read from the era - and superior to his The Demolished Man.

[Anonymous No.10243012]

>>10242460
City of Stairs.

[Anonymous No.10243017]

>>10242878
Prince of Nothing

[Anonymous No.10243039]

>>10243007
Hello, dinosaurs.blogspot.com

50s sff books are the best. Good choice.

[Anonymous No.10243093]

>>10242982
He's making an analogy that soldiers are like firemen, bravely going into incredible danger to prevent worse things happening to innocents, but war movies tend to be about how war is always stupid without actually asking why we fight.

[Anonymous No.10243112]

>>10242878

[Anonymous No.10243122]

>>10242947
Is there gri?

[Anonymous No.10243133]

>>10243007
>>10243039

[Anonymous No.10243140]

I'm looking for some asian fantasy (martial arts, Buddha etc.). What you can recommend?

[Anonymous No.10243150]

Looking for something like David Gemmell or the Gotrek and Felix books. Any recs? Any good indie recs for heroic fantasy or s&s?

[Anonymous No.10243156]

>>10243133
New here, is this a local meme? How many memes does /SFFG/ have?<spoiler>and what does it mean</spoiler>

[Anonymous No.10243163]

>>10238617
Wheel of Time.

[Anonymous No.10243202]

>>10243122
Yup.

[Anonymous No.10243256]

>>10243156
Lurk moar

[Anonymous No.10243278]

>>10243156
>New here, is this a local meme?
Yes
>How many memes does /SFFG/ have?
A few. We keep an anon tied up in the basement creating hackneyed memes.
It's a pizza party. Nice brackets, /g/ refugee?

[Anonymous No.10243284]

>>10243256
>implying they're worth lurking for

[Anonymous No.10243305]

>>10243278
Donkey does it of his own free will.

[Anonymous No.10243312]

>>10243305
How much is he compensated for his work?

[Anonymous No.10243321]

>>10240793
This

[Anonymous No.10243395]

>>10243321
Did Alexander really wish to be a hobo in a barrel? Greatest hobo in history, but still.

[Anonymous No.10243445]

Wizard of earthsea

y/n

[Anonymous No.10243486]

>>10243395
He wished he didn't give a crap as much as Diogenes did.

>>10243445
y
and the first two sequels. Early Le Guin was a very good writer.

[Anonymous No.10243569]

>>10243012
Yes, it's very good.

The sequels are good too and are effectively stand-alone stories in the same setting and storyline, if that makes sense. They both take place years later with different viewpoint characters.

[Anonymous No.10243723]

>>10243486
>He wished he didn't give a crap as much as Diogenes did
I know that feel.

[Anonymous No.10244034]

fuck man, my bad writing is catching up to me. I think I finally understand why endings often suck so much. Every mistake you made along the way catches up with you. Changes along the way conflict with with older plans, forcing you to either abort plot points or cram square pegs into round holes. Stakes have to be raised to the roof without creating an unwinnable scenario. Any development you didn't fit in has to be crammed in at the last minute.

On top of that it becomes a major action sequence, and I suck at those.

[Anonymous No.10244051]

Should i read "The book of the New Sun" by Gene Wolfe as a first dive into science fiction or should i read the "Classics" listed in the charts ?

[Anonymous No.10244061]

>>10244034
>mfw the present-tense attempt I made six months ago beats the heck out of what I'm writing now
maybe it is I who am YA

[Anonymous No.10244087]

/r/equesting the answer posted a few threads ago that Anon recieved from Rothfuss an unnamed author after he sent an email to comment on a book. The author was the biggest piece of shit in his answer.
I'm sure someone must have saved it.

[Anonymous No.10244099]

>>10244087
Do you remember any keywords from it? I'm trying to look up variants of "rothfuss email" at warosu without any luck.

[Anonymous No.10244114]

>>10244099
Not OP, but try "waste my time" or "did you think". My vague recollection has those or similar phrases.

[Anonymous No.10244130]

>>10244099
Didn't know about this site. Found it in 2sec, thanks. Here's for you, because you obviously haven't read it, otherwise you would remember:


Hello.

Your vehement admiration is by no doubt unique. I thoroughly enjoy you going through the effort of reaching out to me, albeit I am completely clueless as what you ever hoped to achieve with that.
Did you imagine me thanking you for your support? Did you imagine me giving you some half-assed words of encouragement?
I am in the process of writing the next book in the series, did you think you would encourage me in some way? The only thing you have accomplished is wasting my time by responding to you when I could be writing the book. Are you happy with that? Does your ego feel fulfilled now that an author has finally replied to you, no doubt you've reached out to many authors, we know your kind. You have delayed my book, but I have no doubt you feel very good with yourself indeed, because you have received a response.

With the upmost love and respect -

[Anonymous No.10244145]

>>10244130
Thanks anon, that is amazing if true.

[Anonymous No.10244172]

>>10244130
Reading that thread, the Rothfussfag seemed to be under the impression that authors think they're rock stars. In my experience they're mostly just people, not really harder to contact than anyone else; I'm sure it's only the top-grade procrastinators like Martin and Rothfuss that both get a sizable amount of fan mail and hate that they're getting it.

I mean, I've gotten prompt responses from John C. Wright twice, and John Barnes actually recommended a book to me on Twitter and later called me a Nazi and blocked me. I'm sure those of us who are fine with sending encouragement, or even better, stimulating thoughts and commentary, to authors would have no trouble getting something neat back.

[Anonymous No.10244200]

>>10244172
Yes, I've had a similar experience the one time I contacted an author. We were even friends on Facebook.

[Anonymous No.10244422]

>>10244172
>we know your kind

[Anonymous No.10244427]

>>10244172
I wouldn't trust the recommendations of liberals t b h

[Anonymous No.10244566]

>>10244087
>>10244099
>>10244130
>>10244172
I saw Patrick Rothfuss at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

[Anonymous No.10244586]

>>10244566
I never get tired of this.

[Anonymous No.10244587]

>>10243305
>implying donkey didn't start macro memeing a few months ago

[Anonymous No.10244638]

>>10244051
Book of the New Sun is good, but complex. You should read it at least once to make your own opinion about it.

[Anonymous No.10244646]

>>10244566
>>10244586
How old is this pasta?

[Anonymous No.10244665]

>>10237228

AVOID AVOID AVOID

[Anonymous No.10244733]

>>10244130

I hate that fat piece of shit

[Anonymous No.10244747]

>>10244733
I remember watching this and thinking that was a wart

[Anonymous No.10244792]

>>10244051
If you're an experienced reader you might as well start with BotNS.

[Anonymous No.10244800]

>>10244130
This mail is a masterpiece and you can't deny it.

[Anonymous No.10244898]

>>10241229
The first WoT book was pretty shit, imo. It's, in my opinion, a LotR rip off - and kind of blatant about it. And this is coming from someone who generally liked the series.

It's a shame because book 2 is where the series really finds its feet (and where Jordan starts getting original with his ideas and lore), and Books 3-5 are unironically three of my favourite fantasy novels. Book one is kind of an unfortunate stepping stone to slog through in order to get to the good stuff.

Then, as I'm sure you've heard from the clichés, book 6 is where quality starts to decline again, mostly thanks to (from my guess) poor editing. Books 6-9 could probably have been cut down altogether to at least half their length, and 10 should have been skipped outright. 11 was pretty decent, since Jordan found out that he was dying, so took the whole thing more seriously again. And finally, your opinion of 12-14 depends on what you think of Brandon Sanderson's writing, and I thought they were okay.

Overall, WoT was generally a bit of a disappointment, but only because I know that it had so much potential, especially judging by books 3-5. I still liked it, like I said, but it could have been so much greater.

[Anonymous No.10244906]

>>10244130
>You have delayed my book

kek

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10244958]

>>10241921
/tfg/ detected!
>>10243305
>>10244587
memeanon is forever and always the one true memer. AntiAuthorAnon is my personal favorite, though; I would definitely want his obduracy in my foxhole.
>>10243156
Square brackets for spoiler tags.
I take it to mean that the value of old books is outweighed by the fact that they were written by 'dinosaurs', with dinosaur being an age criterion arbitrarily defined by that anon.
I may be giving him too much credit by assuming the scale in the metaphor actually has a meaning beyond 'I hate everything without capeshit GRI'.

[Anonymous No.10244988]

>>10242835
name of cosplayer please?

[Anonymous No.10244999]

>>10244958
I'm pretty sure the meme is literally
>dusty old anons rating dusty old books lol

[Anonymous No.10245010]

>>10244130
If that's actually real then Jesus Christ.
When/if I ever get published the first thing I'm going to do whenever I meet a fan is give them a god damned fist bump, because anyone that buys my shit and enjoys it is my kinda nigga.
Fan mail might be a pisser to reply to but the least I'd ever do is send a 'cheers senpai' and maybe set up a fan club eventually if shit got too heavy to directly interact with.
But frankly anyone buying what I write would be one step away from getting a low key handjob under the interview table whenever we'd meet.

How could anyone treat their fans like that?

[Anonymous No.10245016]

>>10244898
>Overall, WoT was generally a bit of a disappointment, but only because I know that it had so much potential, especially judging by books 3-5. I still liked it, like I said, but it could have been so much greater.

The world Jordan built still has so much potential even after the story he presented us with was concluded. There's just so much that still can be done with his world-building, with the different ages and realities altogether. Personally, I kind of hope that Brandon Sanderson's takeover in finishing the series sets a precedent and other authors are given the chance to create stories set in the same world.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10245026]

>>10245010
Like all human experiences, do X thing 10,000 times and see how you feel about it then. That's not an excuse for the email but I could easily envision becoming so bored with the same email from xE12 anons that I'd eventually have to flame one to death just for kicks.
Or you could go with the Harlan Ellison approach and just punch people.

[Anonymous No.10245087]

What does /sffg/ think of the Goodreads candidates for best fantasy novel?

I love what I've read of Tad Williams so far, but I've never gotten around to reading Memory Sorrow, and Thorn so I'm not going to read Witchwood Crown by the time the voting ends.

Outside of that, there are only two nominees that are the first in their series: The Bear and the Nightingale and Kings of the Wyld. Anybody read these two? Are they good?

https://www.goodreads.com/choiceawards/best-fantasy-books-2017

[Anonymous No.10245098]

>Can only read 6k words in 20 minutes
>People talk about how they breeze through one ASOIAF book in a few days to a week

fucking how?

[Anonymous No.10245099]

>>10245087
Kings of the Wyld's gimmick is a bit like the movie Still Crazy but with an adventurer band instead of actual musicians. Was fun enough.

Red Sister is also a new series.

[Anonymous No.10245104]

>>10245087
I have huge problems with MST, mostly because the princess is an unlikable bitch until we’re supposed to magically like her in the third book for no reason.

[Anonymous No.10245107]

>>10245098
skip the characters you don't like
skip paragraphs where nothing is happening
speed read stuff

[Anonymous No.10245111]

>>10245098
Stop being a brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10245117]

>>10245087
>reading books before they've exceeded the minimum recommended fermentation period

[Anonymous No.10245129]

>>10245098
the longest book in that seris has about 424k words so it'd take you about 24 hours at your listed rate. that's doable in a week if you don't mind putting in the time.

[Anonymous No.10245143]

>>10245098
the GoT audiobook is a bit over 30 hours. I dunno what reading conversion rate exactly but 20 hours doesn't sound unreasonable unless you're making a concerted effort to rip through it or glazing over chunks here and there.

[Anonymous No.10245160]

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>>10243156
Posting meaning again
>>9493109
>Give me an idea on how to make a macro that deals with dino measurements, that also has sffg allusions?

>I don't know, how about something with a big pair of scales in the foreground, with Gene Wolfe, Jack Vance and Walter Miller books on one side, and five disembodied dinosaur heads on the other, weighing down, and Gene Wolfe's big old face grinning coyly behind it, perhaps alongside other disembodied heads of the venerable Robert Howard, Fritz Leiber, Vance, Tolkein, et al.

[Anonymous No.10245206]

>>10245160
Isn't that what I said, memeanon?

[Anonymous No.10245213]

>>10245160
Christmas is coming up. any ideas for a sffg marco meme?
Maybe Santa dropping a woman author book in womanmeme's stocking?

[Anonymous No.10245228]

>>10245087
oathbringer on the list and it ain't even out? alright then.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10245266]

>>10245213
Gene Wolfe dressed as Santa in blackface and dreads dropping another Hugo into Jemisin's stocking. Christmas cards from Denzel Washington, Halle Berry and Barack Obama on the mantel, congratulating her on another token award.
Gene Wolfe isn't really necessary or even relevant here but I do like his grin.

[Anonymous No.10245275]

>>10245266
no card from Oprah?

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10245285]

>>10245275
Oprah is a power unto herself who I respect, even if her audience is vapid. I wouldn't call her token.

[Anonymous No.10245288]

>>10245266
That seems filled with racism...

[Anonymous No.10245305]

>>10245288
Look harder

[Anonymous No.10245387]

Just finished this.
I thought it was pretty good. I like Vandermeer's writing. The ending was a bit bittersweet.
Definitely one of the better 2017 releases I've read so far.

[Anonymous No.10245425]

>>10245016
We'll just have to wait 125 or so years, depending on the Mouse, and it'll be public domain!

[Anonymous No.10245435]

>>10245266
>>10245288
45 minutes in gimp. Might get back to it later? Maybe.

[Anonymous No.10245451]

Book?

[Anonymous No.10245494]

I am looking for a vampires in space book with autistic aliens

any suggestions ???

[Anonymous No.10245499]

Oathbringer e-book when ??? REEEE

[Anonymous No.10245504]

>>10245494
Hmm, can't think of anything by peter watts that fits.

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10245568]

>>10245435
Here's your base. There's even a puppy getting shushed, lol.

[Anonymous No.10245626]

>>10245568
pretty good

[Anonymous No.10245701]

This is probably a stupid question, but is there a way to get readers to remember one specific joke for an entire story just so you can make it a plot point at the end?

I'm thinking of something like "No capes!" and it strikes me that I don't know what it was about that scene that made so memorable.

[Anonymous No.10245730]

Hey does anybody have a link to that guy who does a yearly round up of "this year's self-published fantasy that is actually good"? I think the setup was that he and a bunch of other bloggers have a pool of stuff and they each get a number of random selections or something to that effect, I think the "host" also might be a author as well.

And does anybody know of similar for science fiction?

[Anonymous No.10245767]

>tfw without realizing it your writing has become a tangled mess of inane convolution that has zero chance of being remembered even while you're still alive

[Anonymous No.10245773]

>>10245701
"No capes!" was memorable because it was surprising and genuinely funny. It was a defining characteristic of the woman who said it.

The most important thing is to make sure the joke is good imo. You can repeat it (like Logan Ninefinger's "You can never have too many knives") or otherwise try and make it signifcant to a character. Don't overdo it though.

[Anonymous No.10245796]

is there like a big collection of all the Terry Prachett discworld books, or even just collections of the different series?

[Anonymous No.10246170]

>>10245796
look up "discworld hardback library"

[Anonymous No.10246290]

>>10245568
Make the new thread donkey. I can't keep my eyws opeb,

[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10246360]

>>10246290
On it.

[Anonymous No.10246379]

>>10246290
>>10246360
Too slow murrhurrhurr


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[Donkey !HOTAY/zB0Y No.10246389]

New thread:
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[Anonymous No.10246572]

>>10245387
Might give this a shot next.