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thoughts on Cioran?

>> No.10176653

>>10176561
Husbando

>> No.10176724

>>10176561
>Cioran, Emil: A favourite between the ages of 14 and 20. Shallow edginess, pretentious newfagottfulnery. One would like to have filmed him shitposting on /lit/.

>> No.10176731

>>10176724
Hi, Reddit!

>> No.10176753

>>10176731
The fact that you aren't familiar with nabokovposting shows that you are the only redditor here, kiddo. Nice try, though.

>> No.10176762

I swung pretty far from feeling completely ridiculous reading him and also feeling exactly like he did. More of the former than the latter though.

>> No.10176902

Read "A short history..." 10 pages at a time over the course of a few months. It's edgy af but it has a great vibe to it and the language has great flow.

>> No.10176936

My favourite philosopher desu, its edgy as fuck but he somehow perfectly encapsulates what it feels like to hate all aspects of life

>> No.10176989

Great prose stylist. Don't get all the fascism meme.

>> No.10177347

>>10176561

I thought he was hilarious. I guess that's the wrong reaction.

>> No.10177358

>>10176561
Based as fuck
Definitely /ourguy/

>> No.10177592

>>10176936
>>10176902
is he a genius or just edgy?

>> No.10177810

>>10177592
edgy genius

>> No.10177816

>>10177810
This. He is very good.

>> No.10178656

>>10176561
This man, on my board he is everything.

>> No.10178669

>>10176561
>thinks living is a mistake
>goes on living into his 80s
HACK

>> No.10180282

>>10176561
He said something to the likes of: "the idea of suicide was the only thing that has prevented me from killing myself". I, for one, think it was rather his ridiculous idea that one could use one's hands to strangle oneself.

>> No.10180357

>>10178669
The only reason he went on living is because his brain was literally wired to go on living. It's like how you are biologically wired to be hungry when you need food.

>> No.10180390

Edgy fuck should've killed himself and spared us his whining.

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10180392

>>10180357
Philip overcame tho

>> No.10180393

Liked him during my teenage years, still appreciate his passion but I can't say I really identify with his writing anymore

>> No.10180438

>>10180392
Didn't he kill himself because he went insane by that same disease that got nietzsche?

>> No.10180450

>>10180438
Yeah, they both came down with a bad case of whore-itis

>> No.10180478

>>10176561
His is philosophy of and for the suicidal and depressed. That said I would not recommend those people his work.

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10180506

Nice prose, almost poetic. You should try Albert Caraco too.

>> No.10182221

>>10180506
thanks for the suggestion

>> No.10182381

>>10178669
Cioran strategically used pessimism as a coping mechanism in service of life.

EMC A few years ago, there was a friend of mine who told me that he'd
met a twenty-five-year-old engineer who wanted to meet me. Finally, I
said all right, we'll go stroll around the Luxembourg Gardens nearby. It
was a summer evening. We spoke about one thing and another, literature
and such, and finally he said to me, "Do you know why I wanted to meet
you? It's because I read your books, and I saw that you're interested in
suicide. I'd like to tell you about my case." And so he explained to me that
he had a good job, he earned a lot. He said, "In the last two or three
years, I've begun to be obsessed with suicide. I'm in the prime of life, and
this idea has taken hold of me. I haven't been able to get rid of it." We
talked for three hours about suicide, circling the Luxembourg Gardens. I
explained to him how I was-I am still-obsessed by it, I consider suicide
as the only solution, but, I told him, my theory is this: that suicide is the
only idea that allows man to live. Suicide gives me the idea that I can
leave this world when I want to, and that makes life bearable. Instead of
destroying it. So for three hours we discussed every aspect of this problem,
and then I suggested that we not see each other again, because there
wouldn't be any point.
JW In an encounter like that, have you had the feeling of saving him a little?
EMC Yes, a little. That's happened to me several times, with young
women particularly. I've always prevented them from committing suicide.
I've always tried to tell them that, since you can kill yourself anytime, you
should put it off. But you should not abandon this idea.
JW But you do feel a certain responsibility to such people.
EMC Yes, I can't avoid it. Because my theory of suicide is that one
shouldn't kill oneself, one should make use of this idea in order to put up
with life. So, it's something else, but they've attacked me, saying this
fellow makes the argument for suicide and doesn't do it himself. But I
haven't made such an argument. I say that we have only this recourse in
life, that the only consolation is that we can quit this life when we want
to. So, it's a positive idea. Christianity is guilty of leading a campaign
against this idea. One should say to people, "If you find life unbearable,
tell yourself, 'Well, I can give it up when I want to."' One should live by
way of this idea of suicide. It's in Syllogismes where I wrote that sentence:
"Without the idea of suicide, I would have killed myself from the start."

It's a good interview, the rest is worthwhile as well:

http://public.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/public/article/download/30276/27810