Has this guy actually read Derrida?

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Has this guy actually read Derrida? Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:06:40 2017 No.10019876 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:08:06 2017 No.10019881 of course he hasn't

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:09:44 2017 No.10019890
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>>10019876

>This dweeb you fuckheads circle jerk thread after thread sounds like Kermit the Frog and is scared of Mr. Viola, whom he completely misunderstands

BAHAHAHHA

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:10:19 2017 No.10019891 Literally no one has

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:15:24 2017 No.10019914 >>10019876 He diagnoses Derrida almost perfectly, aside from leaving out the part about him being a jew, which is the reason why his ideas as implemented through greater academia are so harmful to western society to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:17:28 2017 No.10019921 >>10019876 I don't think Derrida wanted his work being hijacked by sjw's. He always said the western tradition must be preserved.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:17:34 2017 No.10019922 >>10019876 Clearly not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:24:27 2017 No.10019943 >>10019914 Peterson is the biggest Kike shill on the planet having been shot into fame thanks to (((Rebel Media))). Take the blackpill, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:25:31 2017 No.10019948 >>10019943 Source please.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:27:27 2017 No.10019958

>>10019876
Probably to some extent. He's a professor who taught at Harvard, not some random faggot like you OP.

Also, who the hell wants to read every last word from other people? To read enough to figure out the core elements in them that you can utilize in some way, that's all that matters. That's how you develop your own perspective rather than simply become absorbed by the others' thoughts.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:31:17 2017 No.10019967 It's pretty obvious he hasn't. At this point I'd be surprised if he's even read Foucault.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:31:36 2017 No.10019969 >>10019948 He is. Either you notice, or you don't. There is no official source.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:38:23 2017 No.10019988 >>10019948 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKL3MsKRtJo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXVDtICVwMA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9BbQyg7zwQ

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:41:56 2017 No.10020001

>>10019969
Peterson is a lite academic version of the redpill who seems to be doing a good job of railroading destructive jewish ideologies like Marxism and postmodernism. He is a good starting point for many and since he is essentially, knowingly or not, attacking jewish concepts that are harmful to whites, I have no reason to think he is anything but beneficial to white interests.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:54:51 2017 No.10020052

>>10020001
>seems to be doing a good job of railroading destructive jewish ideologies like Marxism and postmodernism
I agree. That is what it seems to be. I do think he also doing something else but I can't quite put my finger on it. He frequently makes excursions into politics, Nazis, SJW, and Israel. I think he's trying to shield Jews from anti-semites, and turn as many alt-right kekistani/Sargon/pol/etc. kids into GOP style Judaeo-christian conservatives as he can. His attacks on SJWs/marxists/etc. is an attempt to remove the kindling the alt-right is thriving on in order to neutralise them. I'm not sure though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 20:56:30 2017 No.10020058 >>10020001 >who seems to be doing a good job of railroading destructive jewish ideologies like Marxism and postmodernism. Yes, and leading you straight into Jewish Capitalism lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:00:44 2017 No.10020078 >>10019958 >criticise a whole school of thought >don't need to read their work to criticise it truly the intellectual of our time

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:07:44 2017 No.10020100 If Derrida intended his work to be read, he would have written in a readable style.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:15:50 2017 No.10020121

>>10020078
>"Probably to some extent" and "read enough to figure out the core elements"
>let me claim that anon is vouching for not reading someone's work at all as a prerequisite to criticize
Truly a marvelous display of quality reading comprehension.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:25:17 2017 No.10020158

>>10020121
>to read enough to figure out the core elements in them
in other words not reading their work, just reading a short summary and thinking you 'get' them. if you're going to criticise a whole school of thought it's a good idea to actually have a solid grounding of their work rather than reading a wikipedia article

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:27:56 2017 No.10020167

>>10020052
>I think he's trying to shield Jews from anti-semites, and turn as many alt-right kekistani/Sargon/pol/etc. kids into GOP style Judaeo-christian conservatives as he can. His attacks on SJWs/marxists/etc. is an attempt to remove the kindling the alt-right is thriving on in order to neutralise them. I'm not sure though.

I think the opposite is likely true. Peterson is not going to turn anyone on the alt right, no way. What he is, is an entry point into the alt right, who exposes these jewish ideologies but shields himself from any backlash by never mentioning the jewish roots of these things. Plenty of people do this these days. Anyone under 30 who eases into Sailor will be on TRS in a matter of months. Once people start feeling comfortable with these ideas they've been told are taboo all their life, the only direction one can go is further to the "right," into race realism and ultimately the jewish question.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:30:30 2017 No.10020176 >>10020158 I don't have to eat the shit to know what it's like, I just have to smell it to have a good idea.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:40:57 2017 No.10020210

>>10020100
Derrida is no problem for anyone who understands the tradition Derrida is writing from but manchildren think having read Plato's Apology is enough to plop right in. It's like dropping a bowling ball on your foot through your own incompetence and being mad at the ball.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 21:56:03 2017 No.10020274

>>10020176
Isn't this a misleading analogy insofar as you presuppose what the actual content of a said text is?
Certainly critical practice ( i.e. authorities) exists for a reason - to separate meritorious thought from that which is not, but these are only guidelines.
Do we no longer study Plato in virtue of Aristotle's critique?
It is disingenuous to compare a concrete object with something more difficult, and more abstract, and intellectually dishonest to claim we grasp a persons thought - further, that they bothered to write down for us to scrutinize, if we only work on a core or slogan basis of their work.

One may say another's thought is worthless, but how do we know, and at a glance at that?
This isn't to say we ought to read the entirety of all work ever to be, but if we are to laud or condemn a thinker, we owe it to the practice of philosophizing itself that we do more than the bare minimum - and what you suppose IS the bare minimum.

Anonymous Wed Sep 13 22:19:19 2017 No.10020358

>>10020274
I'm not saying scholars are worthless. They contribute significantly. But haven't you heard the saying, "Those who can't, teach"? Well, those who can't philosophize, become scholars of philosophy.

To be a scholar of philosophy is to be someone who studies the ins and outs of philosophies very carefully and almost religiously and never actually performs; to philosophize requires a certain temperament, you need to know how to separate the wheat from the chaff and quickly, you need to be an intellectual heavyweight and you need to be active. To be active requires that you don't read every single drop of text out there, like real life. Haven't you been in a position of authority at your job before, or in a project you were a part of? There is no way to do all of it yourself, you need to employ others to do things for you. The number of philosophers in history who have been silly family men like scholars usually are are next to none, I can't think of one; they are all men who know well how to divide and conquer, and know how to take pieces of things that they like and eliminate the things which don't fit into their own structuring of the world. That's how you build character in your work, and that's what makes it philosophy rather than just a scholarly research paper.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 13 22:47:47 2017 No.10020422 >>10020210 Derrida outdoes every other writer within his tradition by a long-shot. He deserves to be misinterpreted.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:36:44 2017 No.10020841

>>10019876
He hasn't read anything, he's a psychology professor, not a philosopher. I know they're easy to confuse with each other - they both start with P - but Peterson's one idea is basically "people were more contented when they did and thought as they were told, so we should start doing that again on purpose and pretend it makes us happy until it actually does". Not intellectual, but he works for those people who want an intellectual defence for beliefs they hold for emotional reasons.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:37:46 2017 No.10020843 >>10020358 >But haven't you heard the saying, "Those who can't, teach"? Yeah, stupid peasants say it all the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:44:32 2017 No.10020859 >>10019921 Interesting way of looking at it. Have you read "White Mythology"? I feel like that quite clearly shows Derrida intending his work to lead to transformative justice... i mean cucc-stuf

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:46:15 2017 No.10020861 >>10020001 I know this is a dumb question considering the platform. Do you actually believe any of that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:47:31 2017 No.10020866 >>10020861 Yeah, we do actually all unironically not want to be murdered and have our sisters, girlfriends and daughters raped in front of our eyes by animate fecal matter. We're not LARPING, we don't want to be killed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:49:50 2017 No.10020874 >>10020866 ahahha love that

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:50:02 2017 No.10020875 >>10019876 He always gets "interviewed" by people who basically suck his dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:50:56 2017 No.10020880 >>10020861 What issue do you have here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 00:52:06 2017 No.10020882 >>10020880 No issue, who am I to say what's right and wrong. Just couldn't tell whether it was a satire that went over my head, or a bit of a semi-related rant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:04:19 2017 No.10020918 >>10020875 nearly no one he's been interviewed by understands philosophy, it's just because of the SJW stuff which is all youtubers actually understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:20:21 2017 No.10020973 >>10019943 >black pill How does being hopeless and nihilistic about life help?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:22:24 2017 No.10020982 >>10020843 And angry scholars never have a decent counter argument.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:28:40 2017 No.10020995

>>10020918
>understands philosophy
He's a social-psychologist.
He is essentially fighting the SJW fags and using language they can understand.
Leftist can't grasp the idea of hard work and legacy, so you have to hit them with "intellectual thought".
If you can dismantle all the damage that's been done to their brains, you can get through to them--maybe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:32:33 2017 No.10021005 >>10020995 i'm not speaking of him, i'm talking about the interviewers. none of them can bounce anything interesting back to him half the time and just ask about the same events over and over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:37:15 2017 No.10021019 File: 62 KB, 500x469, 1504350930704.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Person A who I disagree with says something about person B who I agree with therefore person A is misunderstanding person B.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:39:43 2017 No.10021029 >>10020422 He uses a lot of wordplay yes but that just makes it more engaging when you get the concepts and backgrounds. Niggas don't realize how many jokes he makes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:42:40 2017 No.10021042 >>10021029 >jokes

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:48:58 2017 No.10021058 >>10019914 You believe that Jews have magic powers that make things written by them harmful even if the same exact words written by non-Jews wouldn't be as harmful?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:50:50 2017 No.10021066 >>10021058 >Jews have magical powers holy shit.. Anon, I think you're on to something

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:52:15 2017 No.10021068 >>10021066 Well, stormtards do usually think that Jews are magic demigods with mind control powers, and whites are just brainwashed robots - well, except for our Fearless Neo-Nazi Heroes, of course.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:56:17 2017 No.10021079

>>10021019
Like in the essay Differance right at the start he's introducing the way a simple spelling mistake (giving the example of difference as differance) transforms a word and unearths "as though prescribed by some mute irony, the inaudible but displaced character of this literal permutation. We can always act as though this makes no difference." See that use of "difference" in context of the essay is a funny little bit of wordplay worth a sensible chuckle if your sense of humor is as lame as mine, and at the same time his usage displays his point about language usage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 01:57:20 2017 No.10021082 >>10021079 ah fuck I mean this for >>10021042 my mistake

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:05:45 2017 No.10021102

>>10021058 >>10021068

You do know that most leading/famous Jewish academics have been involved in Kabbalah, right? Gershom Scholem's friend list is just the tip of the iceberg. The Armanenschaft has worked as a dispelling source, hence the clarity found in some circles.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:06:57 2017 No.10021107

>>10020859
He literally says in interviews that he wants to preserve the tradition. There is no real way of addressing or 'questioning' the Western tradition without actually relying on that Western tradition itself. Like you can't deconstruct a text without 'doubling the commentary' i.e. reading it according to the intention.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:08:28 2017 No.10021111

>>10019958
He has admitted to reading Derrida 'a lot less' (or something) than Foucault. He mainly attacks Derrida for being the source of deconstruction in lit crit even though that is an American phenomenon rather than intended or present in Derrida's work itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:10:04 2017 No.10021113 >>10020100 It is a readable style if by 'readable style' you don't mean derivative of human speech but as a piece of written text. But in saying that he seems to talk in a very complicated style as well but it's not completely incomprehensible.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:13:29 2017 No.10021118 >>10019876 >HURR, Truth is utility >DURRRRR, postmodernism is bad because relativism

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:19:08 2017 No.10021132 >>10021118 To Derrida philosophy has a claim to truth which separates it from other writing, to Peterson truth is just whatever works at the time. Yet people think Derrida is the nihilist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:19:30 2017 No.10021133 If you have an argument other than a question, write it out. But I bet OP won't ever write out a coherent argument. It's always with these anti-Peterson threads..

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:24:15 2017 No.10021142

>>10021118
>>10021132
What do think truth is if it's not relative? As Wittgenstein said, philosophy is the study of language. It doesn't matter what your ideas are they are still bounded in language. Unless you manage to somehow practice philosophy without words, which is impossible. Now truth is comparing what is said or written to something else and seeing if it matches. In other words if your representation is accurate.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:37:17 2017 No.10021168

>>10021142
>Now truth is comparing what is said or written to something else and seeing if it matches. In other words if your representation is accurate.

That doesn't mean it is relative though. The truth is an ideal and ideality is contingent on its repeatability i.e. the signs (and structure, like language) used to denote it, which is accessed differently by different people. So philosophy is a study of language which is the 'event' of structuralism that Derrida refers to -- language defines the structure but can't be situated outside the structure (like God or man).

For philosophy though it is separated from other writing (language in general) by its claim to truth which has to be taken seriously instead of dismissed as mere literature. Structures are important to philosophy but sometimes what is outside that structure disrupts the inside, so you get writing disrupting the 'self-presence' of speech (by being able to be misinterpreted), decorative aspects sitting outside the artwork disrupting how one views the composition within the artwork, literary understanding of language like metaphors disrupting philosophy, etc. The point (of Derrida at least) is to look at the proposed ideal from the point of view of the contingent or accidental or historical, i.e. what is repeated in the 'real world' with the ideal in mind (that what is compared between two sources in an attempt to reach or represent that truth), to test the integrity of those claims to truth.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:38:39 2017 No.10021172

Derrida was for most anglo Derridians just an excuse- a way to surmount their American guilt: the inferiority complex of upper crust wannabes descended from shit farmers who were handed an empire and expected to explain while really being 'new worlder' cast offs. Basically, Derrida allowed such people to say (to others and themselves): "well this apex FRENCH thinker shared my ressentiment, ergo my ressentiment is justified"

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:41:33 2017 No.10021181 >>10021133 No argument can be made against a person who does not know what they are talking about

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:41:49 2017 No.10021182

>>10021172
Yeah I think this is true which is kind of a shame because there are some good American 'postmodern' ideas, especially in art, before Derrida was read in the US. But civil rights and second-wave feminism occurred there first and provided a lens through which to read Derrida.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 02:45:35 2017 No.10021189 >>10021181 Yes. You can point how he don kno nuffin.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:13:52 2017 No.10021386 File: 120 KB, 300x300, 1505261283929.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10020167 >everybody believes the same fringe concepts as me, they're just too afraid to say it and it's all subterfuge

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:18:08 2017 No.10021396 >>10019876 Fucking hell, what a charlatan. Anyone who takes him seriously needs their brain examined.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:25:57 2017 No.10021415 >>10019876 >Derrida is dangerous because he thought that identifying meant excluding Does Peterson realize that this is NOT one of the original Derrida's premises? Does Peterson ferally hate Kierkegaard too? Because he said the same thing, verbatim.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:26:23 2017 No.10021417 >>10021386 didn't you listen to Baked Alaska on TRS? these are truly the greatest thinkers of our time

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:31:08 2017 No.10021427 File: 35 KB, 476x581, aa7832fd85a6acf38e5bde5207162d3800c5983b5eb55d85dec5400630cbca7a.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10021417 >who's monitoring

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:32:39 2017 No.10021432 >>10021427 >everyone I don't like is zog

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:32:55 2017 No.10021434 File: 6 KB, 223x251, 1505056377025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10020995 >/pol/ crossboarders

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:37:12 2017 No.10021441
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When will /pol/ fucking go? I'm genuinely tired of all this clueless, unsourced, blind antisemitic blabbering, which is pestering 90% of the threads of this board (and most 4chan threads in general).
I mean, these people are trying to dismiss Derrida as a philosopher on the ground that his parents were Jewish: why shouldn't I immediatly assume that they are retarded teenagers who got educated by /pol/ infographics? In what world this is legitimate criticism? It's too stupid even for kindergarten's standards, and we are supposed to be on a board for literary and philosophical discussion.

This site is becoming far too pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:46:55 2017 No.10021469 >>10021441 Whiny shabbos goyim like you make this place 10x worse than any pol poster. You post is pure cringe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:49:19 2017 No.10021478 >>10021469 No substance, lots of buzzwords. Here's another worthless post, written to defend retards who attack Derrida for his Jewish parents (a criticism that identifies the critic immediatly as legally retarded), rather than his ideas.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:51:48 2017 No.10021487 >>10021417 Imagine giving third billing to a YouTube parody rapper at your rally.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 04:57:22 2017 No.10021502

>>10021478
Derrida was a jew, jews are different than Europeans, jewish ideas are frequently antagonistic towards Europeans--is this really that hard for you to grasp? You are emotional, annoying, and whiny. Much worse than the people you are crying about. Shut up or bitch over at reddit, you weak faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:02:32 2017 No.10021506 File: 55 KB, 638x640, neJgm2J7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10021502 Talk about cringe. Your pol tier posts... Wew.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:02:51 2017 No.10021507

>>10021441
>implying there isn't an international jewish conspiracy facilitating the displacement of whites in their homelands
i'm not even anti-semitic, i grew up with jewish friends, i even went to my classmates bar mitzvah (nagila hava, nagila hava. nagila venishmeja). The point is I have no problem with individual jews, the problem is the international jewry- the globalists, the special interests, jewish finance, the media, the banks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:07:45 2017 No.10021515 Did he just read one page from Of Grammatology where Derrida mentioned how he will use the concept of logos and nothing after? What a lazy pseud brainlet

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:10:42 2017 No.10021527 >>10021502 Explain why Derrida's ideas weren't antagonistic towards Europeans then

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:10:57 2017 No.10021529 [DELETED]

>>10021441

buddy if you are getting this worked up over the state of /lit/ then you either need a break from 4chan or drop it altogether. waves of dumb kids arrive routinely and they will always find ways to shit thing up and be generally annoying no matter what, /pol/ is just one variation on the theme. this can't be stopped. nor should you be wanting to try to stop it because this is their time now. not yours. roll with it or don't, but don't cry about it.

t. oldfag

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:12:26 2017 No.10021534

>>10021502
You are from /pol/, /pol/ is different than /lit/, /pol/ ideas are frequently antagonistic towards /lit/--is this really that hard for you to grasp? You are emotional, annoying, and whiny. Much worse than the people you are crying about. Shut up or bitch over at reddit, you weak faggot.

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Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:17:15 2017 No.10021541

>>10021534
Except I'm not from pol, asshat. Everybody knows about jews these days. You whiners just have your heads up your arses and choose to ignore the obvious, or, more likely, are just kvetching jews yourselves. Whichever, you should go cry on reddit.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:20:19 2017 No.10021553

>>10021541
/pol/ is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him /pol/ and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:20:24 2017 No.10021554 >>10021541 >I'm not pol >You're a Jew This is getting silly.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:22:15 2017 No.10021556

>>10021541
Quickly he turns the attacker’s charges back on him and the attacker becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what /pol/ wants. He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what /pol/ really fears: to attack. The accused has become the accuser, and loudly he shoves the accuser into the dock. So it always was in the past when a person or a movement fought /pol/.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:23:56 2017 No.10021560

>>10021529
I've been here for 8 years, and it has NEVER been this shitty. Don't try to normalize it, otherwise this retarded clueless antisemitism will become the common sense of this board.

I mean, how do these guys approsch a philosophical text? They approach it this way:

>Derrida was a jew, jews are different than Europeans, jewish ideas are frequently antagonistic towards Europeans--is this really that hard for you to grasp?
>>implying there isn't an international jewish conspiracy facilitating the displacement of whites in their homelands

Why the fuck are we pretending that this is literary/philosophical criticism? Why? Can't you see how worthless and empty these speculations are? And how damn common are they on every thread of this board? Should I pretend that /lit/ was like this even 2 years ago?

This is the blabbering of a deeply ignorant people who know only one thing about Derrida: that he is a Jew. Nothing else. We clearly all know where these empty talking points come from (/pol/ is only a bioproduct of the actual propagandists) and we clearly all know how recent these tendencies are. Why am I supposed to pretend that this is not a bunch of people brainwashing teenagers on /pol/ with infographics and youtube videos, and then tell them to spread on other boards? It's obvious.

They have done a good job, so much that now opposing antisemitism is controversial, and calling them out will only result in them sttacking you and in "moderates" telling me to chill out. Apparently it is impossible to criticize these tendencies without creating controversies, which are never resolved through calm and collected debating (name calling is the name of the game).

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:29:11 2017 No.10021573 >>10021553 >>10021556 lol at the buttsore of this guy. Still not from pol though. >>10021560 Can you not see how people like you are viewed as more annoying than pol posters because of whiny screeds like this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:30:34 2017 No.10021576 >>10021573 t. /pol/

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:33:33 2017 No.10021581
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>>10021560
I suspect Memerson has brought a lot over from /pol/. They watch a few videos, hear a couple of names like Derrida and Jung, and convince themselves they're all literary n' shit.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:35:01 2017 No.10021583

>>10021573
>Can you not see how people like you are viewed as more annoying than pol posters because of whiny screeds like this?

You're just playing their game to fit in. The result of your pandering? Posts as worthless as the ones I've quoted.
Apparently out of 40+ retarded antisemitic posts me criticizing them once is too much. Give me a fucking break.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:44:11 2017 No.10021602

>>10021560

i'm glad i preemptively deleted my post before you linked this wall of aspie to it.

all your outrage is so transparent, the truth is you have grown accustomed to the immediacy of this 4chan posting style and while there are potentially better places to long-form discuss topics like these you'll ignore them because poor memeboy wants to keep doing it in an arena that feels more immediate and entertaining. you are stuck between wanting to give a serious treatment to these topics and still wanting to be subtly entertained by this immediate posting style. so you project your shit all over the shop in annoyance.

u aint foolin me son.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:46:49 2017 No.10021604

>>10021583
The few of you itt whining for the last however many posts, who I'm guessing are jews, sound like 14 year old girls crying about their spoiled birthday party. It's annoying. It comes off as insecure and defensive. People don't like it. They don't come here for that. And you're rightfully told to piss off to reddit. 4chan is not your safe space away from hearing any negative talk about jews.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:51:37 2017 No.10021618

>>10021604
What you're not understanding is that you are using 4chan as a safespace for antisemites. I have criticized them, and you got triggered, as if my criticism was an infringement of free speech.
This is the game you are playing for them: you are neutering every possible criticism, labelling it as people being butthurt, justifying this way the most retarded users of this board, which are currently pestering every thread of this site.
You're basically treating discourse as a feud between high school girls, in which what is said is less important than the appearsnces of the person who was arguing his point.

>>10021602
Your point is that I am wrong because 4chan is shit, therefore I should praise retards and criticize who wants to create some decent content?
You're as defeatist as it gets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:56:05 2017 No.10021628 >>10021618 >You're as defeatist as it gets. you're a denial case dork who lectures people about healthy eating as he keeps shoving cake into his face. you like this shit website because it's fun to shitpost here. that's it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:57:55 2017 No.10021635 File: 153 KB, 768x1024, va2014po_CocoFusco-Dr.Zira_009-768x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10021602 >i is a sychologist

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 05:59:20 2017 No.10021640

>>10021628
Shitposting is different than having to pretend that "le Derrida is bad because jew" is a good argument. It's retarded, but pointing out apparently means that I'm butthurt and that I want a safespace. Somehow you fail to recognize that you are in fact asking for a safespace for your fsvourite brand of retwrded shitposting. Imd rather see some genuinely, creative funny posts about actual writers, philosophers and their ideas.
Also, apparently, writing long posts on /lit/ is bad. Let that sink in.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:00:43 2017 No.10021643 >>10021635 >a nothing post calling out the conflicted hypocrisy of some larper is a serious attempt at psychology okay.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:01:10 2017 No.10021645

>>10021618
>you got triggered
Do you people ever stop projecting? You're the one writing long moaning muh antisemites screeds itt. I'm just telling you they're annoying, make you look bad, and highlight why people don't like jews. You blame everyone else when your behavior is more annoying than what you're complaining about. There's no introspection on your part, it's always everyone else and never you. Sheesh, get some perspective, man.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:01:25 2017 No.10021648

>>10021618
most of it is shitposting though, >>10021507
is an excerpt from a contrapoints video i'm pretty sure. there are more sane people here than you think, most of us are just done wasting our time trying to convince people that there is no jewish conspiracy

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:04:44 2017 No.10021652

>>10021645
Do you realise that you have not addressed not even a point. As I've said earlier, in 2 istances:
>You're basically treating discourse as a feud between high school girls, in which what is said is less important than the appearsnces of the person who was arguing his point.
and
>You're just playing their game to fit in.

And again, the fact that you think that long posts on /lit/ are weird and out of place is downright hilarious. It really shows us how new you are.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:06:11 2017 No.10021656

>>10021640

>Also, apparently, writing long posts on /lit/ is bad. Let that sink in.

you've been here for 8 years and now you're that wet blanket older guy who tries to lecture younger kids on how they should be posting and what they should be posting about. let that sink in.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:10:03 2017 No.10021668

>>10021648
It's a thread syaing that antisemites are a-okay becuase of international jewry.
Now, what is this thread about? Derrida. Why is international jewry mentioned? Because Derrida's parents are sephardic Jews.
You guys can't add 2 to 2

>>10021656
Therefore I should not criticize retarded posts? I should not point out how stupid they are because... I have been here 8 years? Because habing been here for 8 years means that you can concoct a strawman in your head?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:10:54 2017 No.10021670

>>10021652
I'm the one who told you you are acting like a high school girl because you are. You aren't any better than someone from pol, you're worse. Jews do bad things that cause people to hate them. You're posting wall screeds about how none of that is justified. It's this victim complex your people have. All you know how to do is whine and play your victim card. You refuse to look inward so you don't realize you come off even worse.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:11:27 2017 No.10021672 >>10021668 It's a post saying*

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:13:22 2017 No.10021678

>>10021670
You're on a thread about Derrida, you cretin. What has International Jewry have to do with him? Do you have a single source about Derrida's affiliation with International Jewry (inb4 his parents are jews and every jew is in cahoots with them)? Can't you see how fucking incoherent are you?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:14:38 2017 No.10021680

>>10021668
naa my dude their post has just been taking straight from 'debating the alt right'. it's a shitpost that's supposed to be exactly what your post is pointing out. it's typical talking points that are just posturing with nothing backing them up and don't make any sense

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:16:50 2017 No.10021685 >>10021668 you are way too emotionally invested in this place still. how do you get this outraged over the state of /lit/ after 8 years? give it a rest m8.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:17:52 2017 No.10021688

>>10021680
this is exactly how propaganda and propahanda works. You take a talking point and you repeat it over and over again. If other anons read it enough times eventually they will internalize it.
To say "they are just pretending" is irrelevant, for they are pretending in every fucking thread of this board.

But yeah, let's pretend that Nazi anti-semites are not really comfortable with propaganda.

>>10021685
Don't backpedal that fast, you might get hurt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:20:47 2017 No.10021693 >>10021688 it's not very good propaganda if it makes them look retarded. i believe that's what /pol/ would call 'jewish false flagging'

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:21:02 2017 No.10021695

>>10021688

>Don't backpedal that fast, you might get hurt.

backpedal? if anything i'm trying to go easy on you. you don't even see how sad it is that you get this worked up over the state of /lit/ after 8 years in when it isn't even really your board anymore yet you're still desperately holding on and telling yourself that it is.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:21:21 2017 No.10021696

>>10021678
I've said nothing about "international jewry" you stupid heeb. You wrote long whiny posts and multiple people are calling you out for it. Now you're coming off as mentally unstable and defensive. Get a grip. This is what I've been telling you from the start: people like you are the problem, not the antisemites, because you can't think rationally and just blame and whine about everyone else.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:26:13 2017 No.10021701
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>>10021685
>>10021602
>>10021696
>keeps claiming anon is too 'invested', yet himself can't stop posting
>all too eager to diagnose the mental state of others
>accusing others of projecting
>unironically uses 'son'
Vell, I see be have a real case on our hans.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:29:17 2017 No.10021709

>>10021701

>>keeps claiming anon is too 'invested', yet himself can't stop posting

i am only shitposting you pretentious dork. i'm not telling anon that they need to raise the level of discourse around here or anything faggy and delusional like that. i keep shitposting because shitposting is fun and easy and this is a site where one can freely do so. it's literally that simple.

what is it with you fucking larpers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:29:21 2017 No.10021710 International Jewry is a problem though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:33:03 2017 No.10021718 >>10021709 heh, keep projecting, kid

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:33:51 2017 No.10021719 >>10021718 that's the spirit!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:34:34 2017 No.10021721 >>10021709 >i don't give a shit about anything >ur all squares and LARPERs >im in it 4 the lols Yesh, hm, very intereshting. Now, your mother... ?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:34:58 2017 No.10021722

>>10021709
>Hans is trying to do damage control
By the way fuck off for implying that the right path is to lead those few serious 4chan boards to complete shit, and fuck off for railing against those anons that have correctly spotted the propagandistic bullshit in this thread. I want GOOD shitposts on /lit/.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:35:22 2017 No.10021723

>>10021701
If only your stubborn victimhood and unwillingness to learn from your own faults wasn't such a pervasive trait among jews, we wouldn't again find ourselves in the situation where we're going to have to seriously consider kicking you out again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:36:06 2017 No.10021725 >>10021721 my mother was a 15 year old prostitute named chloe with webbed feet

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:36:47 2017 No.10021727 >>10021723 As usual, once the Hans is cornered his true colours show up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:38:58 2017 No.10021734 >>10021722 are you telling me you don't want /lit/ to become /b/ 8.0? absolutely ridiculous!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:40:45 2017 No.10021737 >>10021734 He said good shitposts...

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:41:16 2017 No.10021739 >>10021721 >>i don't give a shit about anything of course i do. i'm just not going to lecture kids on how they should be posting on 4chan like this irrelevant old fuck who can't let go. >BUT DIS IS PROPAGANNNNA STAAPPPP EET CHILLLRENNN

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:42:41 2017 No.10021742 >>10021727 You have multiple people calling you a bitch itt. You haven't cornered anyone. You just made jews look even more annoying and delusional and worthy of what people say about them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:45:10 2017 No.10021749 File: 24 KB, 640x485, maresfie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10021742 >everyone who responds to me is THE JEW And how long have you had these delu- ahem, sorry, thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:45:55 2017 No.10021752 >>10019921 When he said it must be preserved, he meant it must be preserved only to preserve the base for constant change.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 06:46:15 2017 No.10021754 >>10021742 I'm not that guy but hey, at least you've tried (not with arguments tho)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 07:05:48 2017 No.10021789 File: 22 KB, 804x743, helper book.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10019943 >Take the blackpill, idiot.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 07:57:42 2017 No.10021891
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All shitposting is genuine means here to discuss and propagate ideas, but when argumentative reasonable posts come along now it is too invested, taking 4chan too serious, and avoiding places where it is discussed in depth?

NO! Stop writing! I mean I am responding and trying to solicit an action or showing my displeasure, but you are the one triggered here, and triggered is a valid critique against my response you triggered from me.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:17:32 2017 No.10022037

>>10021168
Great but now you simply have a representations on how representations work. You have a model on how language, which itself is a model, works. Truth is relative. What you seek is the phenomena itself. Shit works or it doesn't, no words are used. Basically it is what evolution does in it's raw engineering. As the Taoist would say, don't confuse the moon for the finger pointing at the moon.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:33:28 2017 No.10022082

>>10020982
No anger, just amused contempt. There's no argument, how can a counter-argument be neccesary? People nobody will listen to say "those who can't, teach". Usually they're people who never made use of their own education opportunities and are bitter.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:35:39 2017 No.10022088

>>10020995
You think "intellectual thought" is a meme to be adopted for the greater good of selling conservatism? That sums up why society is in the shape its in. People adopt positions for emotional reasons and then find post hoc justifications. This is human nature, but we should analyse and distance ourselves from the habit, not blandly watch ourselves doing it.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:37:59 2017 No.10022093

>>10021560
This guy's right. I used to post on /lit/ regularly a few years ago. There were a lot of threads about fantasy books, which I mocked, but there was also literary discussion. When I looked in earlier this year, it was still recognisably the same board. Now it's literally the /pol/ book club.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:40:38 2017 No.10022100 >>10022093 >/pol/ boogeyman. Only /lit/izens make these Peterson threads here ,don't kid yourself. And they're 99% of time negative phone-shitposting.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:49:58 2017 No.10022121

>>10022100
You have to be kidding. I've watched enough of Peterson to know that /lit/ would never have given him the time of day before this influx. He's argumentatively on the level of an angry redpilled teenager, complete with the implications of dire consequences and suffering if people don't respect his authoritah. This post summed him up pretty well >>10020841, but it doesn't convey the whining, low-energy aspect of his videos. He seems almost in tears that people are allowed not to live the way he wants them to.

It's the classic phenomenon where people with any kind of academic position who come out in favour of a particular political point-of-view get used as "proof" of its validity by their allies, where in fact, outside of their wheelhouses - and Peterson is outside of his wheelhouse most of the time - they're no more insightful than any average member of the public.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 09:51:38 2017 No.10022130 >>10022100 Why does /pol/ persist with the "/pol/ boogeyman" forced meme? Everyone but you can see what you're all doing, it's not mysterious.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 10:24:57 2017 No.10022220

>>10022121
Good lord, Peterson has many shortcomings, but you and your quoted summation of him are absolutely dreadful in how vague and uncommitted they are.
JP doesn't want a world where there is any element of an authoritarian 'doing as we are told' dynamic, and his "whining" is not about people not living how he wants them to; it is about people in the West beginning to almost universally see the world through a very strict prism of oppressor and victim power dynamics and obsessing over group narratives that undermine the emphasis on the individual.

A lot of what I see from JP seems to be a sincere attempt to resurrect classical learning in the humanities.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 10:32:32 2017 No.10022234

Jordan Peterson's argument:

1) Derrida believes that the purpose of categorization is exclusion.
2) Categorization is the basis of cognition.
3) Therefore Derrida claims that thought itself is an agent of oppression.

What do you think of Jordan Peterson's argument?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 10:36:51 2017 No.10022249 >>10022121 That's a lot of ad hominems and no arguments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:01:59 2017 No.10022314 >>10022234 Will he apply it to Kierkegaard too? Also >2) Categorization is the basis of cognition. Care to expand on this? If I don't put people in boxes (which is the basis for identity politics) I am not cognitive?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:03:57 2017 No.10022318

>>10022220
>>10022249
You guys won't ever apply this level of scrutiny to Peterson himself.
He can say virtually nothing about Derrida while insulting him and his philosophy, deeming him as the most dangerous man in the West, and at the same time you will expect a peer-reviewed essay from those who want to criticize JP.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:16:53 2017 No.10022348

>>10019876
From what I understand, postmodernism has a lot to do with reflecting on what to do after the collapse of our moral culture, and the failure of the "linguistic turn" in philosophy. It's one long footnote to Nietzsche and the death of god, asking and failing to answer, "what now?" Saying postmodernism is harmful to western civ is missing the point. I suppose it is harmful, but it's one of many effects of the sickness which is european nihilism. Attacking postmodernism is addressing a symptom and not the disease. I cringe when I see Peterson drilling college students like soldiers about the ebils of le french postmodernists from the 1960s, when those intellectuals are just participating in a much larger tradition that won't go away even if their ideas are rejected.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:18:48 2017 No.10022354 >>10022348 This post means nothing, and you clearly know nothing sbout sny of the philosophers and philosophical currents you're mentioning.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:21:00 2017 No.10022363 File: 21 KB, 233x349, article-1063198-00DFEB80000004B0-995_233x349.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10022354 >average Memerson defense: nuffin

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:43:37 2017 No.10022439 >>10021111 Where does he admit this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 11:55:20 2017 No.10022478 File: 20 KB, 468x553, stef.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10022354 The roots of postmodernism go pretty deep bud, and Derrida isn't the source of the problems Peterson is talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 12:04:55 2017 No.10022510 you guys can't even defirne "modernism" nevermind what aspects of modernism have become surpassed to warrant the term "post modernism"

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:41:49 2017 No.10023196 >>10021560 >They have done a good job, so much that now opposing antisemitism is controversial Good. But it bears reminding that what this poster calls "antisemitism" is a normal and natural reaction to jewish behavior.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 15:59:08 2017 No.10023263 >>10023196 Nope, in this case antisemitism is dismissing Derrida because his parents were Jews, while mentioning not even once his philosophy and arguments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:20:59 2017 No.10023354 He made Derrida sound like a genius and himself sound like an insect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:41:34 2017 No.10023421 >>10020001 >I have no reason to think he is anything but beneficial to white interests. If by "white" you mean "western civilized populace", then I agree.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:43:58 2017 No.10023437

>>10023263
>because his parents were jews
Uh, yeah ... that is what makes someone jewish lol. You slow, bud? I've seen plenty of people break down Derrida's arguments, which are easy targets since they are seemingly archetypal examples of jewish subversion. Jews are "the Other" and receive their identity from this sense of otherness, so the, ahem, "philosophies" and other ideas they advance are often directly contradictory to European norms, and in fact attack those norms rather blatantly, which leads many to the realization that jews have a negative effect on society and lead even kosher commentators like Peterson to point out how they are harmful. This isn't rocket science.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:45:11 2017 No.10023442 >>10023437 >This isn't rocket science. Thanks God.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:47:14 2017 No.10023453

>>10023437
>that is what makes someone jewish lol.
He was an atheist, and his philosophy discredited the faith of his own fathers.
This is not even anti-semitism, it's just naive, unscientific racism. You're just rationalizing a prejudice dummy (inb4 prejudices are good: if you think this just do yourself a favor and quit philosophy)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:49:13 2017 No.10023462 File: 28 KB, 640x449, Jacques Derrida says Viola.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] deconstructs your christianity Heh, nething personel, kidoo

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:54:30 2017 No.10023487 >>10023453 Jewishness is biological, schnozberg.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 16:55:24 2017 No.10023492 >>10023487 t. brainlet

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:10:31 2017 No.10023550 >>10022318 Not peer-reviewed, just getting basic things about his views right.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:13:12 2017 No.10023563 File: 119 KB, 1200x800, C7DRogiWwAEXgT6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10022478 The funny thing is that Peterson is quite the product of postmodernism himself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:13:55 2017 No.10023568 >>10023462 That's the pseud/fraud look right there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:14:37 2017 No.10023571 >>10023462 Whatever you say, Derrida >Pedro proceeds to rape some American landwhale.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:16:03 2017 No.10023579 >>10019876 >From the guy who brought you "clean up your room" and "sort yourself out"

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:16:52 2017 No.10023581

>>10022234
>Derrida believes that the purpose of categorization is exclusion.

How the fuck does self proclaimed Jungian have a problem with this? Jung's entire thought proccess at every single fucking step excludes things via opposites. For example, the idea that things which are are excluded from the conscious mind enter the unconscious.

>Therefore Derrida claims that thought itself is an agent of oppression.

What's wrong with this? Why should a self-proclaimed Nietzchean like Peterson see oppression as a bad thing? All actions in the world ARE oppressive, that's the nature of Will to Power.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:41:14 2017 No.10023694 >>10021058 But if jews aren't wizards then they'd have to face up to the idea that whites aren't so great

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:45:07 2017 No.10023711 File: 33 KB, 268x350, derrida-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10023568 steals your oneitis What were you saying again, brainlet?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:46:33 2017 No.10023719 >>10022314 >Care to expand on this? It's has to do with the idea that the world is infinitely complex and that simplification via categorization is a necessary cognitive process in order to be functional.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:47:26 2017 No.10023723 is he even literate?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 17:56:07 2017 No.10023763

>>10023719
Is it right to categorize this way groups of millions of people? And is it really efficient?
By saying "Christians" I'm mentioning so many things that the term beckmes basically useless outside of his semantic mesning (Christians believe in the teachings of Christ, yet this does not tell me how do they interpret them, what are their epistemology, their politics, their sbilities and so on).

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:00:28 2017 No.10023787

>>10023763
Don't forget a lot of the people here have mush for brains and really do beleive that the world can be accuratly represented through gross simplifications.

For instance that all "Jews" are evil and are responsible for all of their personal suffering as well as the suffering of every member of the "white" race whom the Jews have been at war with since the earth was created 6,000 years ago.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:14:55 2017 No.10023850

There's literally nothing wrong with that statement, it's a decent summary. I remember Peterson also mentions différance and phallogocentrism in other video of his; he's clearly acquainted with Derrida to some extent

t. has read Of Grammatology, Letter to a Japanese Friend and Specters of Marx

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:15:14 2017 No.10023851

>>10023787
Any intelligent non-jew who has studied jewish religious texts can discern with ease that part of the reason jews are so fucked up in the head and never welcome in one place for long probably has to do with the very evil-seeming ideas contained therein, which they had to memorize for centuries. The Talmud is really sick and twisted, and cultivates fear and hostility towards those who aren't them. So jewish psychopathy is both biological and cultural.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:16:42 2017 No.10023855 File: 61 KB, 878x814, 5reasonsto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10019876 >Another fucking Peterson thread Why are there so many fucking shills on this board? Go outside. Nobody gives a shit about this anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:17:02 2017 No.10023857 File: 38 KB, 630x603, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10023851 >Talmud There we go. We know you are dying to post that infographic. Hit us!

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:17:53 2017 No.10023862

>>10023763
>Is it right to categorize this way groups of millions of people?

It depends on the level of analysis that your objective requires.
"Is it right" is pretty vague. Do you mean is it morally right? Or do you mean is it accurate?

You hear several times in the news that a pit bull has ripped some kid's face off. Is it then "right" to conclude that all pit bulls are dangerous?
If your objective is to shield your child from potentially dangerous animals, then it's a functional conclusion.
If your objective is to work as an animal rescue specialist, then it isn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:20:06 2017 No.10023870 >>10023851 You have never read a Jewish religious text in your life. And no those little charts on /pol/ do not count. God you're fucking pathetic. Go whine about the evil Jews pissing on your face some more.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:25:18 2017 No.10023887

>>10023857
I don't have one, do you?

>>10023870
Notice the low emotional self-control of the jew, the aggressive tribal instincts that kick in when it perceives an attack on its group. These instincts have been shaped by inbreeding, which has led to every jew being a fourth cousin of one another.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:26:48 2017 No.10023892

>>10023887
>Notice the low emotional self-control of the jew, the aggressive tribal instincts that kick in when it perceives an attack on its group. These instincts have been shaped by inbreeding, which has led to every jew being a fourth cousin of one another.

I bursted out laughing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:28:36 2017 No.10023900 File: 20 KB, 249x336, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10023887 gobineau... easy on the worthless pseudoscience

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:29:41 2017 No.10023907

>>10023887
>I don't have one

Before you were talking about how "studied jewish religious texts" =p

Either your idea of "studying text" is looking at images you got from /pol/ are you a dirty little liar!

Oh you goys and your ineffective tricks! Gonna pass these posts around at the Shalom Temple and we'll have a good laugh at your expense ;D

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:31:33 2017 No.10023910 >177 posts >lots of people saying peterson's reading of Derrida is wrong; 0 posts explaining how he's wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:32:09 2017 No.10023912 File: 197 KB, 998x1134, image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10023857 You know what? Fuck off: there it is. I don't give a shit if it's an infographic, you simply can't disprove it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:34:27 2017 No.10023922 File: 7 KB, 244x206, snafu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10023912 There is no book in the Talmud called Libre David...the master of deceit strikes again!

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:35:50 2017 No.10023930

>>10023907
The people who understand the jewish problem are more often than not highly intelligent white men who are aware of such things because they have studied your sick tribe of freaks in depth. I know you would like to paint these people as stupid goyim who obtain their information from infographs but the exact opposite is true.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:38:24 2017 No.10023938 >>10023910 Welcome to /lit/: home of the pseuds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:39:05 2017 No.10023942 File: 35 KB, 1234x815, 1434116065919.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10023912

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:41:25 2017 No.10023947

>>10023930
If you Goys are not stupid why did so easily take you over from within ^_^

And yes I understand there are different types of goys: there's the idiots who get their info from charts on 4chan, the dummies that make the charts, the conspiracy theory retards, the obese neo nazis, the crusader role-players, and of course the rednecks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:42:22 2017 No.10023952 >>10023910 >i obviously can't read

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:43:49 2017 No.10023958 >>10023952 Are you this retarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:43:59 2017 No.10023959 >>10023910 >brainlet can't read the thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:45:10 2017 No.10023962 >>10023952 >>10023959 quote any post ITT that explains how his reading of derrida is wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:45:18 2017 No.10023964 >>10023959 Kys

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:47:20 2017 No.10023973 >>10023912 nice falseflag

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:51:23 2017 No.10023989 >>10023962 Not him buy why does he have to do your homework for you? There's like 200 posts in this thread. If he really does sort through them for you you'd owe him a thank you. Seems you are just trying to be lazy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:52:49 2017 No.10023995 >>10023962 >>10023694 >>10021079 >>10021107 >>10021132 >>10021168 >>10021415 >>10021515

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:53:42 2017 No.10023998

>>10023947
You are, of course, creating a convenient lie since you don't know anything about the anonymous people who speak and spread information about the jewish problem online. The reality is it that those who are aware of this problem are very well-read, independent thinkers who are at the vanguard of the coming uprising that will, for the, what is it, three-hundreth time or so, sweep your sick tribe of inbred swindlers out of our nations. You are a delusional tribe of gypsies, but I understand that you have to try and keep up this ruse that you are just the poor wittle victims yet again. I'm just telling you it's not going to work for much longer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:54:47 2017 No.10024002 >>10023995 Is this bait?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:56:42 2017 No.10024009

>>10023998
>The reality is it that those who are aware of this problem are very well-read, independent thinkers

/pol/ is well read and full of independent thinkers?

>who are at the vanguard of the coming uprising that will, for the, what is it, three-hundreth time or so, sweep your sick tribe of inbred swindlers out of our nations.

These guys don't even leave their room...

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:56:50 2017 No.10024010 >>10023998 >you are lying >but obviously I am not because I say so Logicnotfound.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 18:58:32 2017 No.10024016 >>10024002 Oh, you weren't joking about you being retarded. Sadface

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:01:32 2017 No.10024019 >>10024002 >>10023995 was kind enough to do the work you were too lazy to, and you still flunk it. Is something preventing you from understanding the criticism of Memerson? Is it your undying love for his cock?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:02:35 2017 No.10024025

>>10023995
Ok. Peterson's reading: Derrida "believes the whole purpose of categorization is exclusion" and since "categorization is the basis of cognition" then "thought itself is an agent of oppression".

>>10023694
>But if jews aren't wizards then they'd have to face up to the idea that whites aren't so great
Unrelated to his reading.

>>10021079
>Like in the essay Differance right at the start he's introducing the way a simple spelling mistake (giving the example of difference as differance) transforms a word and unearths "as though prescribed by some mute irony, the inaudible but displaced character of this literal permutation. We can always act as though this makes no difference." See that use of "difference" in context of the essay is a funny little bit of wordplay worth a sensible chuckle if your sense of humor is as lame as mine, and at the same time his usage displays his point about language usage.
Unrelated to his reading.

>>10021107
>He literally says in interviews that he wants to preserve the tradition. There is no real way of addressing or 'questioning' the Western tradition without actually relying on that Western tradition itself. Like you can't deconstruct a text without 'doubling the commentary' i.e. reading it according to the intention.
Not true and unrelated to his reading.

>To Derrida philosophy has a claim to truth which separates it from other writing, to Peterson truth is just whatever works at the time. Yet people think Derrida is the nihilist.
Unrelated

.>>10021168
>That doesn't mean it is relative though. The truth is an ideal and ideality is contingent on its repeatability i.e. the signs (and structure, like language) used to denote it, which is accessed differently by different people. So philosophy is a study of language which is the 'event' of structuralism that Derrida refers to -- language defines the structure but can't be situated outside the structure (like God or man)[...]
Unrelated

>>10021415
>Does Peterson realize that this is NOT one of the original Derrida's premises? Does Peterson ferally hate Kierkegaard too? Because he said the same thing, verbatim.
Related, but where is the evidence? How's this assertion substantiated?

>>10021515
>Did he just read one page from Of Grammatology where Derrida mentioned how he will use the concept of logos and nothing after?
Same

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:05:17 2017 No.10024036

>>10024009
I've literally never posted on pol. The white men who have educated themselves on the jewish problem are often well-adjusted leaders who encourage other whites to get fit, make a spiritual connection to their roots, and live responsibly as examples for the real plebs who will follow us as we unite our race and implement the next jewish expulsion order. We are sorry you are sick inbred freaks who cannot take responsibility for these continued expulsions and try to blame us instead of actually learning and making an attempt to better your community.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:07:16 2017 No.10024041 >>10024025 >complains about people laying down vsgue criticism >does not sccept "JP has not read Derrida" as an answer >reply only by saying "unrelated" without saying why Should we apply any degree of scrutiny to your answers too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:10:00 2017 No.10024052 >>10024041 Do I really need to explain how something is unrelated to something else? Peterson was very concise: categorization, cognition, thought is oppression. It simply isn't addressed by most of those quoted posts

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:10:13 2017 No.10024053 >>10024025 >I can't read.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:11:15 2017 No.10024057 >>10024041 Faggot.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:13:43 2017 No.10024071

>>10024036
>I've literally never posted on pol

Assuming you are not lying, which you probably are, it makes your position worst. Basically means all you boys think the same, you even post the same retarded info-graphs. In short you're a clone with no real individuality. You even talk like a parrot.

The rest of your post feels just reeks of resentment and inferiority-complex. You sound like an utter loser that needs to blame all his personal failures on Da Jews and get your sense of accomplishment by being born into a certain ancestry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:14:49 2017 No.10024079 >>10024052 Yes, you should.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:15:46 2017 No.10024083 >>10024079 Faggot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:16:48 2017 No.10024086 >>10024052 This is my post >>10023581

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:18:30 2017 No.10024094

>>10024052
Most people here (not the ones who got quoted) never gave a precise answer because they thought that Peterson was essentially misinterpreting Derrida. You didn't wccept those answers.
Now, you've answered to many other people in the same exact way, yet you expect us to discard our answers and twke yours at face value.
Don't be an hypocrite, and give an actual answer.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:24:39 2017 No.10024117

>>10024071
Everything you posted is what is always posted when someone is speaking openly about your people's tribal sickness. So you trying to tell me that I'm unoriginal inspires merely a chuckle from this end of the screen, you inbred vagabond. White men have invented nearly everything in this world, we are pioneers and a race of virtue, so the notion that we would be envious of a wandering batch of selfish desert semites who carry a host of genetic diseases is simply a non-starter. You are continually expelled because of your behavior, understand? It's because of you. It has nothing to do with anyone else. I'm actually the one trying to reason with you here. I want you to change so this stops happening to you. But you don't want to learn. You cannot listen. You just want to blame everyone else. And this is why you are such a despised people who are routinely given the boot. Will you ever learn? Seems unlikely because you refuse to take responsibility for your own actions. It's sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:26:15 2017 No.10024121 >>10024117 Do you really refer to people who disagree with you on the internet as Jews, in a serious mammer? Shit, that's hilarious

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:28:55 2017 No.10024137 >>10024121 He does. I've been calling him a "goy" in several of my posts to feed his delusions for fun. Torturing people online is a hobby of mine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:29:08 2017 No.10024141 Why does he have anime cats in his video?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:36:10 2017 No.10024178 >>10020176 Die

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:39:00 2017 No.10024184 >>10020001 >this one faggot in every thread even minutely related to Jordan Peterson or postmodernism with a schizophrenic fixation on helping "whites" understand the Jewish problem

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 19:59:27 2017 No.10024261 >>10022249 It's observation of the plain facts of the matter, there are no ad hominems in that post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:32:55 2017 No.10024416 Peterson singlehandedly destroyed the pomo circlejerk that had this board in its shackles for the past 5 years. For that he's based no matter what.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:37:28 2017 No.10024437

>>10024416
>months of explaining both postmodernism and modernism to idiots who think they learnt something
>made these things weaker on the board
about the only thing he weakened was the tendency for jung fans to be campbell fans. they're still star wars fans, they just haven't read campbell. if anything, that's bringing a bigger circlejerk here

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:55:57 2017 No.10024512 >>10024041 He's right, anon quoted my post replying to an anon wondering what makes Derrida funny. It didn't have to do with petey.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 20:59:22 2017 No.10024534 >>10024416 Actually it made me respect and appreciate postmodernism more

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:00:20 2017 No.10024537 >>10024416 Peterson made me realize that anti-pomos don't know anything about postmodernism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:01:28 2017 No.10024544 >>10024025 >Derrida "believes the whole purpose of categorization is exclusion" and since "categorization is the basis of cognition" then "thought itself is an agent of oppression". Where does Derrida argue this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:02:17 2017 No.10024547 >>10024416 Peterson made me understand some people really will believe a girl who dyes her hair pink has actually read Derrida when she says that down the uni pub.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:05:23 2017 No.10024563 >>10023711 What the fuck is that expression, posture and overall style trying to convey?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:06:21 2017 No.10024565 >>10024563 being

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:07:45 2017 No.10024572 >>10024563 Chutzpah, what else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:10:15 2017 No.10024586 File: 162 KB, 271x274, jbp meme.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lot of dirty rooms in this thread. Sort yourselves out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:11:11 2017 No.10024589 >>10024563 Wanna smacks lips deconstruct it and find out?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:12:25 2017 No.10024593 >>10024586 www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z87_5gYsG1M

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:14:45 2017 No.10024602 >Have really funny Petermeme webm I want to post >It's too big for 4chan's little file limit and webms here don't have sound anyway.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:16:39 2017 No.10024616

>>10019876
Has he fuck.
He's Ban Shapiro, Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, any other fucking nerd who thinks being bullied made him smart. Peterson never read a word of Derrida, and it's no loss- What's this psych hack ever said which implied he'd understand "Ulysses Gramophone"?
He's a poseur who back-pats edgy awkward dipshits who thought they were geniuses when they were ostracized in high school, only to cry their way through college because liberals wouldn't fuck them and other students understood the reading.
I fucked the girls in the philosophy elective you had to drop and wrote the paper an hour before the deadline. Both were easier than you can imagine Jordan

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:17:30 2017 No.10024619 File: 85 KB, 350x360, 20170915_221503.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10024589 deconstructs your deconstruction You don't know what you are playin with, son...

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:19:30 2017 No.10024629 >>10024619 does anyone have the heidegger porn image? not the subtitle, the mock up for the porno poster some MSpaintfag made

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:20:09 2017 No.10024632 >>10024616 damn bro, there's a lot of resentment coming thru your shitpost sort yourself

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:22:57 2017 No.10024645

>>10024616
>Peterson doesn't even understand postmodernism!!!
>wah continues
What is the demographic of the postmodern true believer? I know it skews jewish because jews and jewish-run institutions promote it and benefit the most from it, but what is the average non-jew postmodernist defender like? What makes them so attached to it? Is it mostly a hipster thing these days?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:24:09 2017 No.10024649

>>10024632
are you sure you don't just feel resentment because he said he got laid and implied he'd read ulysses gramophone and understood it? i wouldn't get so hung up about lecturing him people will just think you're attracted to him and trying to mother him. fuck off jocasta

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:24:23 2017 No.10024650 >>10024645 yo virigin

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:25:39 2017 No.10024654 >>10024616 I don't think Peterson was bullied, and he sure as heck isn't making himself a victim if so.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:25:41 2017 No.10024655 >>10024645 >the postmodern true believer? Mostly bicycles. The friction levels from the Chinese was already killing up and then the hipsters pushed us over.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:27:14 2017 No.10024660 >>10024655 I have no idea what this means.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:27:41 2017 No.10024663

>>10024632
Mad online. Hate the idea of dipshits thinking they're geniuses for watching a YouTube video, particularly when it takes an hour lecture to get the gist of Derrida if you're not thick.
Maybe I'm just being a "TFW too inteligent" asshole. The flipside of these people are the "I'm not reading DFW because people say he's deep and I don't like hearing it".
The more I type, the more I realise I'm just saying I dislike various guises of anti-intellectualism
dang

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:27:48 2017 No.10024664

>>10024645
You are either a postmodernist or not a philosopher at all.

Personally I think philosophy has reached the point where it's gotten so complicated that only the Jews can really understand it now. They have the highest IQs after all. That's also how the sciences and bussiness management are, all Jews because gentiles can't handle the intellectual demands. Like you, you clearly have shit for brains.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:28:31 2017 No.10024666 >>10024654 He decided to have an argument with trannies and SJWs. He's not exactly looking for not crazy. His mum must have been epic. I bet she made him sing Kermit songs while she played Miss Piggy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:29:20 2017 No.10024668 >>10024666 Did you reply to the wrong post?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:30:24 2017 No.10024674

>>10024660
It's the exchange of atoms. Eventually they're more man than bike, but there's not way to get them in the voting booth, meanwhile those that have become more bike than man have been balloting for mandatory clips and mudflaps to ascertain citizenship as a precaution throughout The Emergency.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:31:28 2017 No.10024679 >>10024668 No. Lrn2 basic Freud and Jung

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:31:46 2017 No.10024680 >>10024664 There are far more whites with high IQs than jews, and jews are extremely uncreative as evidenced by their low spatial IQ and relegation to mostly parasitic enterprises, so your answer is clearly wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:31:47 2017 No.10024681 why does peterson triggers /lit/ so much? like, damn, only ayn rand is so good at getting the worst out of this board

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:33:51 2017 No.10024687 >>10024679 >guy attends intro to psych, posts about his insights online

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:33:53 2017 No.10024689 File: 150 KB, 352x450, JesusCrucified.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10024680 >jews are uncrea- Who invented your entire religion again, whitey?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:35:17 2017 No.10024697 >>10024681 Because there's nothing more painful than an idiot who thinks they're smart. You see Peterson, talking about subjects /lit/ discusses and he doesn't understand, and worry that's how you could sound- Smug and clueless

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:36:38 2017 No.10024703 >>10024681 >triggered have you not heard about /lit/'s other efforts to date youtube? i think this is fond affection for /lit/

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:36:39 2017 No.10024704 >>10024689 Wasn't nearly all of it ripped off from other cultures? Right, so, not actually the jews. Jews are semites and semites don't create, they destroy. Europeans are the only creative group.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:37:12 2017 No.10024705 >>10024697 >Because there's nothing more painful than an idiot who thinks they're smart. hmmm

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:39:25 2017 No.10024719

>>10024680
Well one of the most creative things is movie making, which the Jews practically invented.

Say what you want about statues of Roman Gods but you probably spent a lot more time watching movies and tv than looking a those.

You keep going on about how the whites are smart but than say they get tricked by the Jews. Did you get beaten up at school by some Haseeds or something? Did they steal your lunch money and spend it on potato knishes?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:39:26 2017 No.10024720 >>10024687 >fails to recognise oedipus >on SWTG board you're probably not winning this one, m8, it's literary based, not pseudoscience feelings 101. you need some knowledge to banter about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:40:58 2017 No.10024731 >>10024704 50% of the Christian holybook is the Jewish Holybook. The other 50% is a story about Rabbi Jesus argueing with other Rabbis about the first book. Than something about him losing a court case (should have hired a Jewish lawyer!)

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:41:09 2017 No.10024732 >>10024719 >Well one of the most creative things is movie making, which the Jews practically invented. lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:42:23 2017 No.10024739 >>10024731 www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZdvpvCMHPE

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:44:26 2017 No.10024750

>>10019876
He talks very little of Derrida's ideas and a lot more of how they are used in current political climate, how he believes it is a result of the correct use of Derrida's philosophy.

He gives no reason why categorization as exclusion is bad. He wrongly or incompletely ties categorization to be the basis of logic and not its visible byproduct. Assumes that this exluded categorization is directly tied to logic, therefore priviliged more than the observer of it, can't be opressed? How then can it progress then if the observation must not break its core principles? In science it is encouraged to question the principles. Derrida always reminded of the importance of this excluded content in its tradition, that you must know it before being able to deconstruct it in any valid way.

Even though he gives us very little to latch on, his observation still looks wonky.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:47:53 2017 No.10024758

>>10024719
Jews did not invent movie making, and as their involvement in it has increased domestic attendance has decreased since jews use the medium to propagandize people, not make good cinema. I'll be the first to say whites are naive and individialistic, and that these things are hindrances against a jewish tribal strategy, but not insurmountable and historically beneficial. As far as me, getting beaten up by hasids? Please. I had my own jewish girl fan club in HS but personal experiences have nothing to do with the desire to rid one's nation of jews; it's simply a matter of gained knowledge. Jews are a very sick people that are harmful to western societies and must be removed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:49:31 2017 No.10024764 >>10024732 What's creative to you than? Creating an advanced movie basically requires of every single other type, sometimes hundreds of them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:51:20 2017 No.10024769 >>10024764 jews didn't "practically invented" film, you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:51:23 2017 No.10024770 File: 1.54 MB, 480x264, thinking hard.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10024704 >Europeans are the only creative group >He said on an anime imageboard

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:51:32 2017 No.10024773 >>10024758 Sounds to me like you are the sick one. Being conquered by a superior race must sting huh =-( But that's life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:53:42 2017 No.10024780 >>10024769 Stop dodging the question. If movies are not creative what is? And yes I'm sorry but the Jews have ran holleywood from the start. Any tinfoil on the internet will tell ya!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:55:50 2017 No.10024792 >>10024780 Movies are creative, I never said otherwise. Jewish people didn't invent film.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:56:47 2017 No.10024797

>>10024758
>make good movies
>but obviously if a jew movie is good it is a conspiracy involving reviewers
>if it's a movie by whites then it is inherently better
>good movies by jews attracted huge crowds
>now the decrease in the attendance is also jew fault
Oh it's all a jewish conspiracy?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:56:49 2017 No.10024798 KEK no. The people he thinks read Derrida didn't either. It's all very Michelle Remembers.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 21:59:41 2017 No.10024808

>>10024773
Jews use a tribal strategy that they've unleashed on whites since getting unleashed from the stetl, and we must build a defense against it. That's nature, but it has nothing to do with their superiority unless you're limiting superiority to parasitic pursuits, as that's the limit of any superiority they arguably may have.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:01:04 2017 No.10024815 >>10024792 So if jews didn't invent film, the innovations within it automatically get dismissed? What is this argument even, that if they didn't invent one thing, they as a whole become uncreative?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:02:22 2017 No.10024822 >>10024797 Whites have created nearly all of the good music, art, and literature over the centuries. It would therefore follow that the movies they make are also better because whites are simply and objectively more creative people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:04:13 2017 No.10024830 >>10024815 He's probably confused and means he hates the French. It would make the film and postmodernism comments more consistent. Maybe he can't say his Rs, who knows?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:05:25 2017 No.10024835 >>10024822 A white guy made The Room. A Jewish guy made Jack & Jill. Clearly people of all ethnicities make shitty movies independently of whether they're Jewish or not.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:06:33 2017 No.10024841 >>10024815 You are the one who claimed they practically invented film, which is an outright lie. The first great jewish director was Stroheim and he was yet another one following the steps of Griffith.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:07:28 2017 No.10024844 >>10024822 >implying jazz, italians, and the irish are white is this a dave chappelle sketch?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:08:24 2017 No.10024848 >>10024822 You are just confirming my point that you have infantile reduction of objective judgement of said things to them being made either by a white guy are by a jew, with whiteness being inherently better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:13:20 2017 No.10024868 >>10024841 I am another anon. They might not have invented film in its inception, but my arguments still stand.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:18:27 2017 No.10024891

>>10024868
What arguments are those? Basically all advancements to early filmmaking come from gentiles. The technology was developed by gentiles. Griffith is the one who elevated movies from a novelty act into an artform and codified the filmic language that stands to this day. What are you talking about?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:25:38 2017 No.10024917
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>>10024848
This is just the way it is. The white man is the only civilizing force on this planet. He is responsible for all the benefits the lesser races enjoy and is the only human subtype with light features and a spirit to conquer everything from the cosmos to sea floor. Show some respect for what is greater than you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:27:31 2017 No.10024923 File: 5 KB, 179x281, bauer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10024891 >Griffith is the one who elevated movies from a novelty act into an artform Nope.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:28:33 2017 No.10024925

>>10024891
Woonder Woman one of the most successful movies all time(aka the one all the gentiles line up to see) is written by a Jew, starring a Jew actress and it's about fighting the Jew's greatest enemies, the Nazis.

Gentiles PAY to see this in record breaking numbers

The most successsful director is Spielberg, aka the director that creates the most stuff that goys wan to see.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:31:23 2017 No.10024940 >>10024925 He's full of shit, but "goys want to see Jew stuff in a culture which has already been established as heavily-Jewed" isn't an argument.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:34:18 2017 No.10024950

>>10024925
Jews have this terrible tendency to equate the results of their ethnic nepotism with quality. Spielberg is a great example of a jew who makes horrible movies but is held up in an undeserved light because his coethnics promoted the shit out if him in the 70s and devised a new thing, the summer blockbuster, around him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:34:57 2017 No.10024952 >>10024940 Ok so now it's the Jews fault for making a movie that whites like!

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:36:57 2017 No.10024961

>>10024950
You can saw what you want about Jewish directors but the fact that whites of their own free will choose to watch their movies means they like them.

If Spielberg is "terrible" what does it say about the white race that their favorite movies are "terrible" ones? You're essentially saying that gentiles are stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:37:50 2017 No.10024967 >>10024923 I'm telling you, he means he hates the French. www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNLZntSdyKE Easy to confuse, both get compared to rats a lot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:40:10 2017 No.10024973 >>10024923 Bauer is kewl, but come on... >>10024925 >box office I thought we were discussing creativity? Are you implying box office hits are intrinsically more creative movies?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:41:52 2017 No.10024979

>>10024961
As was already mentioned, whites increasingly avoid Hollywood products, which is why domestic sales are plummeting and the industry is surviving mostly off of overseas revenue. Most young whites don't consume any of this jewish propaganda anymore because it's of poor quality. So you are wrong on all fronts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:49:31 2017 No.10025014 >>10024925 >it's about fighting the Jew's greatest enemies, the Nazis. It happens during WWI, you retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:49:57 2017 No.10025015 Jews are anti-Logos. Their actions and goals are in direct opposition to God. You won't find a better explanation for either their actions or their status.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:51:58 2017 No.10025031

>>10024973
we already agree'd movies are creative.

What defines creativity in a movie is itself a philophical question. Is Snakes on a Plane more creative than the Secretary? That's a very difficutl question and I think would be not only very hard to discusson on 4chan but a subject for /tv/ not lit

>As was already mentioned, whites increasingly avoid Hollywood products

LOL and where do they get their movies than? Bolleywood? Hollywood is still basically synonymous with movies and the Goys just can't get enough "capeshit"

>Most young whites don't consume any of this jewish propaganda
According to you goys the Jews run everything. So whether they are watching less movies but playing more video games and watching more youtube doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:53:41 2017 No.10025043 >>10025015 >elevating Jews to the status of being the living embodiment of the metaphysical Form of evil You're making them sound super-human

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:55:11 2017 No.10025050 >>10025015 God is also "anti-logos" you aristotelian pagan.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:58:41 2017 No.10025060

>>10025015
Replace "God" with "European man" and you're spot on. The jew plays the opposite role as its host. This is how it has kept such a strong, unassimilable identity -- by defining itself as the opposite of whoever it happens to be living among. That's the strongest form of tribalism in the human kingdom, but it's quite simple.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 22:59:12 2017 No.10025063

>>10024979
>whites increasingly avoid Hollywood products, which is why domestic sales are plummeting and the industry is surviving mostly off of overseas revenue.
Are you fucking retarded? It's because they're watching tv shows, Netflix and other streamed content, which is mostly also created/produced by jews. Game of Thrones is run by two Jewish guys, the two executive producers of Stranger Things are jewish, the Marvel shows (just as their movies) are based on characters created by jews and are also made by jews, and so on.
If white people aren't consuming that shit, then there's very few whites left in the USA since those things have the highest ratings over there.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:02:27 2017 No.10025079

>>10025060
It's hilarious how the Jews have now basically come to fufill the role of the Devil in the religion you guys are developing.

Let me have some fun with this. If the Jews are the one's that conquered the whites and the Jews have the opposite value of the whites it means the white values are the values of the weak and defeated and the opposite values of are those of victory.

We should stop calling you anit-semetics and start calling you promoters of white inferiority.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:02:42 2017 No.10025081 >>10025063 Hm, perhaps you should re-read the text you quoted. Regardless, whites consume far too much jewish crap whatever they happen to be doing. There's no escaping it. And that's a big problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:03:04 2017 No.10025082 >>10024680 >Jews are uncreative Look, all the other anti-Semitism stuff isn't that bad, but what the hell is this? What did you mean by this? Jews are some of the most creative faggots on the whole planet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:05:49 2017 No.10025093 >>10025081 What is about the text I'm quoting that I misread? He's saying that whites aren't consuming jewish media, when the numbers prove that they in fact are doing it as much as they always did, the only thing that changed is how they consume it.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:07:18 2017 No.10025100

>>10025079
Whites, however slowly, are learning to adapt and build an immunity to the jewish poison. This is how nature works. But the weak will be culled and we will emerge stronger. So what magnificent race do you happen to belong to, ace? By your grammar I assume a lighter shade of mud?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:08:27 2017 No.10025105 >>10025093 I haven't seen those numbers. Where did you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:10:04 2017 No.10025109 >>10025015 >Jews are anti-Logos >Philo actively attempted to synthesise Hellenism and Abrahamic religion, and particularly the Logos >and a Jew was the Logos Really makes you think. I'm tired of /pol/'s superstition.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:14:01 2017 No.10025125

>>10025105
The numbers that prove that those shows are the most watched on tv/streamed/downloaded? Just search for them. People consume more media now than ever, it's just that it's not centralized by only one medium as it used to be. It's the same with music. Physical sales and ticket sales might have gone down, but the consumption of music and movies hasn't declined. It only has changed. Just look at the millions and millions of views youtube videos get.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:14:33 2017 No.10025128

>>10025082
Nope. Jews have historically had very low levels of accomplishment, virtually zero. About 200 years ago some mixed with Germans and became half creative, one could say, but jews still score low on spatial intelligence tests, which are proxies for measuring creativity, because they are semites, i.e., not very creative people. And that's leaving out the boost in *perceived* creativity obtained through nepotistic advantage in industries such as the one that is presently being discussed itt: film.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:17:22 2017 No.10025138

>>10025100
According to your people the Jews
-Control the supply and destribution of all your money
-Control your governments from within
-Run basically all companies controlling the supply and destriburtion of all goods and services
-Control all media including both fictional media and news media
-Have a world widenetwork of billionaires working togeather to achieve their ends
-Define truth and knowledge by controlling the education system
-Caused you to forfeit all your religions and worship one of their rabbis as your saviour and look up to one of their women as the ideal mother and accept Jewish values as divinly given by the creator of the universe

It's a level of conquest that would put the combined ambitions of Alexander, Napoleon, and every James Bond to shame.

You've basically set the Jews up as of super-human beings if not actual flesh and blood deities.

And the opposition is a bunch of social drop outs that don't even leave their room.

If what you say is true the whites have about as good a chance as "overthrowing their masters" as the cows and horses do of defeating humans. That's why Goy means cattle.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:22:41 2017 No.10025156

>>10025138
This has only really occurred over the last 50 years. It was one generation they convinced to give them power. Jews obtained total control over Russia 100 years ago only held onto it for ~25 (or so). Jews have never been able to maintain power so there is no reason to think this spell will last. It's already coming apart and they've only just reached their peak in America. Jews do not know how to govern, they're a tribe of gypsy slave merchants.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:22:48 2017 No.10025157

>>10025128
What about the Bible? The Zohar? The Midrashes? Whatever you do say about these works, you can't say they lacked imagination. Also your link between spatial intelligence and "creativity" seems spurious - I imagine it might have an impact on your perception of the world and imagination, perhaps, but I seriously doubt it's a barometer of creativity. Are chads more likely to be creative while the uncoordinated loners are not?

And if mixing Jews with the locals enabled them to be "creative", to gain these good qualities, why do you still shun them as if they are worthless and completely venomous? Are Jews like Tyrannid genestealers or something? Does their genetic encoding always ensure that they will put all their good white traits to the evil cause of Jewry?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:32:41 2017 No.10025190

>>10025156
Stories about the Jewish Conspiracy go back hundreds of years. Some of it says the Jews gained control since the 1700s with the Rothschild. A lot of the crap says that both world wars were their ideas.

Than if you go back to the middle ages you have stories of Jews controlling things there too.

If you were to buy this conspiracy nonsense it would mean that they have been steadily gaining power since the fall of Rome.

>Jews have never been able to maintain power
It seems from what I've been told that the Jews are the only one who can maintain power as the Goys have none at all.

You could escpially look at Israel to see this (yes I know all the world's powers bow to Israel and give them their shekels, which would prove my point. To be powerful is to exploit everyone else around you).

>they're a tribe of gypsy slave merchants
As opposed to a race of subhuman cattle like yourself =p

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:36:29 2017 No.10025205 >>10024178 Verwandlung

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:39:59 2017 No.10025228

>>10025157
To the first part, jewish religious texts (their own, not just the ones they pawned off on others) are quite literally stolen tales from other cultures or embellished victim narratives. Jewish culture itself is just one big lie, so, no, I don't think such things should count toward their creativity. Which is something that is a result of genetics, and more specifically European genetics, which have selected for individualistic behavior that enhances creativity. Europeans are more likely to devote their lives to very individualistic endeavors, like studying the beetles of Peru or something -- that's where it stems from.

But jews are tribal. They are smart, no doubt. But this is mostly limited to rote learning and memorization. Many people over the centuries have also commented on these traits in jews and I am very familiar with them myself having spent a lot of time around jews. It's not that jews are evil, it's that the culture they come from is very sick and has over many centuries shaped them into something that is, for all intents and purposes, pretty damn close to evil personified in human form. But it's just not something they're aware of. It's nature, and is explainable and understandable in such terms. It's intense tribalism rooted in inbred genetics. They think in terms of what's best for their group, not as individuals, and that of course contributes to their general lack of creativity.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:44:10 2017 No.10025254

>>10025190
Jews had a lot of power in places like England back then, helped shape events, and had large stakes in entities like the East India Company, but they were kept largely out of power, and cultural power especially. That really came in the west during and after the 1960s depending on the realm.

>look at Israel
Which is where you're from, isn't it? I can sense the low IQ Mizrahi in you.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:51:25 2017 No.10025277

>>10025228
Jews are scholarly as shit and many spend their lives in relatively isolated devotion to a certain topic, art or field. It has been part of their culture for centuries. Their tribal behaviour is just in-group preference but without a parcel of land to call their own, without a nation. Jews are rather individualistic people too - hence, as you must be aware, their propensity for self-interest and greed lol. Jews do fuck each other over, just like Englishmen fuck over other Englishmen. Jews, being a nomadic people, couldn't afford to fuck each other over as kin so much. Quite healthy behaviour, if anything. It seems like your distinction between the virtues of Europeans and the sins of Jews are arbitrary. Just admit it is a power struggle. If "whites" in power did everything Jews do (which, they did and do), would you care?

Nietzsche diagnosed German anti-Semitism absolutely perfectly. You demonise Jewish success, and turn German failure, German resentment into virtues. How can you expect to improve when you judge yourself by an inverted metric?

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:54:33 2017 No.10025287

>>10025228
>To the first part, jewish religious texts (their own, not just the ones they pawned off on others) are quite literally stolen tales from other cultures

As someone that has studied religious texts at a semi-scholarly level I find this ridiculous and sounds like the rantings of an angry pseudo-intellectual.

Jewish texts, escpially Job and the Genesis story are based on older sources but with much changed. Judaism is probably the most unique of all ancient religions due it's historical rather than mythological approach. It also has an ethics system, especially in the post-Genesis books, which is completely unheard of for the time.

What do you consider "stolen"? Works you lying ugly subhuman? Are the Babylonian texts stolen which are most likely based on earlier works? Are the Greek stories "stolen" because they have their ancestry in pre-city mythologies of various barbarians? In your angry little rant you have basically insulted the entire cannon of mythology and probably a great deal more as "uncreative".

You are basically shitting on and insulting the entire tradition of mythology in a pathetic attempt to find something be angry about with the Jews. I genuinely wish I could pull your face through the screen and knock out a few of your teeth. I have never seen such a disgusting thing as you on all my time on 4chan and THAT's saying a lot.

Anonymous Thu Sep 14 23:57:53 2017 No.10025304

>>10025254
>Which is where you're from, isn't it? I can sense the low IQ Mizrahi in you.

Well your only argument left is to call me a Jew and ignore all my points.

I accept your surrender Goy =D

>>10025277
>Nietzsche diagnosed German anti-Semitism absolutely perfectly. You demonise Jewish success, and turn German failure, German resentment into virtues. How can you expect to improve when you judge yourself by an inverted metric?

Except these guys are applying it on a global scale. Basically all the failures of white culture are exalted as virtues while all the Jewish success is a vice.

It would be hilarious ironic if all of this anti-semetism pushed us to a point where the Jews came to completely represent Master morality and being "white" was associated with only slave ethics and a mythology about being oppressed by the Hews.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:07:17 2017 No.10025333

>>10025277
I mostly agree with the first part but think you overstate how and why jews take to such fields. Any field that exists, a jew will find their way to, but they won't approach it in the same way a European will. They will approach it and shape it in a Gouldian or Boazian manner, i.e., make it safe for jews. Jews for centuries were forced to study and memorize their religious texts, and this was probably the key factor in their high intelligence ... but that doesn't translate into creativity.

I do not think I demonize jews unfairly or disproportionately to what is deserved. Nietzsche lived in a different time, which was only a short period after jews had been released from the stetl and before their atrocities in the 20th century. I express strong pro-European views, but I criticize Europeans for our faults as well: our disgusting naiveté and blindness to the notion that people are different than us. I can only wish jews were capable of a fraction my self-criticism; but if they were they wouldn't find themselves marched off so frequently, would they?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:07:55 2017 No.10025335 >>10025304 >a mythology about being oppressed by the Hews. This is already happening actually. The "white man's burden" has turned into victimization for the new right. They're basically aping the "we wuz kangz" thing they mock so much.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:13:02 2017 No.10025355

>>10025287
You've studied these from a Christian or jewish perspective, though, right? Nearly all of these stories have their roots in other cultures that jews contributed to the destruction of before taking as their own. Many people have done scholarly work on these subjects that I trust more than someone like yourself who quite obviously cannot step away from his own misdirected piety. Good luck with that.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:13:19 2017 No.10025357

>>10025333
You are talking about Nietzche while complaining about being oppressed. Do you not see the irony?

You've become the slave.

>>10025335
Geeze that's true. It's depressing to think about. If things continue this way than the torch will probably get pasted on to some other civilization, say the Chinese, or (ironically) the Jews themself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:14:57 2017 No.10025367 >>10025355 Ok now I know you're just pulling shit out of your ass. It's kind of depressing that someone like you was taught how to read and write, it's a curse for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:16:48 2017 No.10025375 >>10025304 I had good sense to not devote much time to your posts, mostly due to your poor grammar, but this post shows that my instincts were right in determining the poor quality of thought and exercise went well beyond just that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:19:06 2017 No.10025384 >>10025357 White people don't play the victim card. That is played against us. But this ruse has an expiration date, and chutzpah like yours will only help move it up in time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:20:23 2017 No.10025386 >>10025367 You studied these texts from a religious perspective, not a logical perspective. So you shouldn't be surprised when your views run into the walls of reality.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:22:42 2017 No.10025392 >>10025384 >White people don't play the victim card. That is played against us. Really made me think.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:32:56 2017 No.10025423

>>10025386
>You studied these texts from a religious perspective

And now you are inventing lies about me to in order to fit your narrative that everyone who disagrees with is a Jew and as a result no matter what their level of knowledge is on the subject you can instantly ignore them.

You are delusional and that's not hyperbole.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:38:10 2017 No.10025441 >>10025384 >White people don't play the victim card. That is played against us. lol

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 00:41:00 2017 No.10025449

>>10025423
I made assumptions based on the limited information you provided in relation to the projected expertise, and I was more than polite to you despite the apparent violent outbursts you experienced while responding to me.

Work on your own flaws before you try to lecture anyone else on delusion and hyperbole, friend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 01:18:20 2017 No.10025543 >>10025392 It ain't no victimhood when we are dealing with lesser beings.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 01:23:45 2017 No.10025557

>>10022082
You certainly sounded angry, given that you harped on nothing from the original post aside from that statement. JBP is a scholar and not a philosopher, but even scholars of Nietzsche develop some philosophical inclinations over time, since he was so overwhelmingly insightful.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 03:48:45 2017 No.10025867 Are you guys still talking about Jews? Even if his Jewish heritage has NEVER been part of Derrida's philosophy? What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 08:13:50 2017 No.10026333 >>10025867 His jewish heritage IS the philosophy, you idiot. It's another example of jewish transvaluation of western values.

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