/lit/ - Literature

>>9933877
>all men are pedophiles

>>9933894
bait or retarded? can't tell

>>9933877
what, like the parts where he rubs his dick on her without her knowing it?

>>9933877
Reminder that Lolita seduced Humbert.

>>9933894
Scientifically accurate. Female reproductive biology favors young mothers.

Human men are attracted to teenaged girls because young mothers produce healthier offspring. Human females don't produce more eggs continuously, in the way that men produce fresh sperm cells daily. Human eggs acquire more genetic defects the older the mother is. This manifests in the form of serious genetic defects like downs syndrome, as well as less serious maladies like allergies and sub-symptomatic issues such as lower IQ.

>>9933877
The way the lip curls up at the very end is highly erotic.

>>9933983
>as well as less serious maladies like allergies and sub-symptomatic issues such as lower IQ


My mom was 15 when she gave birth to me, does that mean I'm smart?

>>9934036
It means your genes have less random mutations, one frequent effect of random mutations being lower intelligence.

If you want to tell whether you're smart or not, do a reaction time test. Extract the delay time of your mouse and monitor.

https://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_chronometry#Mental_chronometry_and_cognitive_ability

>Researchers have reported medium-sized correlations between reaction time and measures of intelligence: There is thus a tendency for individuals with higher IQ to be faster on reaction time tests

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6639008 "Correlation between reaction time and intelligence in psychometrically similar groups in America and India."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1953598 "The genetic correlation between intelligence and speed of information processing."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2668913/ "Whole Brain Size and General Mental Ability: A Review"
>Reaction times are so easy to do that 9- to 12-year-old children can perform them in less than 1 s. On these simple tests, children with higher GMA scores perform faster than do children with lower scores, perhaps because reaction time measures the neurophysiological efficiency of the brain's capacity to process information accurately—the same ability measured by intelligence tests (Deary, 2000; Jensen, 2006). Children are not trained to perform well on reaction time tasks (as they are on certain paper-and-pencil tests), so the advantage of those with higher GMA scores on these tasks cannot arise from practice, familiarity, education, or training. Simple reaction time (SRT) measures correlate with IQ ~ 0.20, while more complex choice reaction time (CRT) measures correlate ~0.40. In aggregate, RTs can correlate 0.70 with IQ (Jensen, 2006).

>>9933927
I was making fun of the dumb implications of this thread not agreeing with the premise that all men are pedophiles.

>>9934047
Virtually all men are attracted to teenagers.

>>9933983
>>9934040
This 100%. I love you Anon.

Get rid of all societal brainwash. All men are most attracted to girls 13 to 19, as nature intended.

>>9934062
while we're at it, let's be realistic... most women are already done transforming into a cellulite-ridden, lardy mess by age 20.

>>9933983
that graph is like an autistic alien trying to understand human sexuality

>>9934067
>age 20
Is that the last time you got laid or?

>>9933877
>Books that women are biologically incapable of understanding.

>>9934067
Mostly white, south american and arab women. Black and Asian age like fine wine with just slight workout

>>9933983
What the fuck is that autistic graph?

>>9933972
DELET THIS

>>9934084
Does it need to use hip lingo for youngsters? Should it say "men think teens are LITT"?

>>9933983
>>9934093
>if it's in a graph, it's SCIENCE!

>>9934115
The sources, which are all pieces of peer reviewed science, are at the bottom of the graph.

>>9934115
even as a milf aficionado I would rather go for a 16y/o than a 26y/o and so would most people.

All the male comradery would infuriate any woman. Also, think about the portrayal of women in the book.
Fuck, I love catch 22.

>>9934126
>all color codings are based on common sense (growing up in a Western nation)

BOY that's a souce and a half, innit?! I guess you just proved pedophilia is natural!

>no pubic hair is more attractive
[citation needed]

>BUDDING breasts are the most attractive
maybe in your NAMBA tor forum friend, have you considered going outside?

>small and intermediate breasts are more attractive than full sized breasts
have you... been to pornhub?

>smooth & supple skin is attractive
this is literally a pedophile's fetish. normal people do NOT get hard ons touching small kids' skin, it is not an erotic characteristic, although it is cute

>2-9 year old body shape is INTERMEDIATE attractiveness
the body shape and proportions of a female child are indistinguishable from the body shape of a male child and it's the absolute opposite of what would be considered attractive by any consensus. nothing about a child's body is womanly, nothing about it indicates she could bear children, nothing could explain attraction to it other than a peculiar fixation on children which is more of a psychological fetish for their sweetness/cuteness and the dominating aspect of defiling a small helpless being. other things could explain pedophilia, maybe they remind you of your first lover like humbert, but you can't scientifically prove their body is attractive m8.

>>9934058
Speak for yourself, pervert.

>>9934190
>>9934198
You don't find this attractive, right?

>>9934205
it is until you see her babyfat face, pervert

>>9934210
>it is until you see her babyfat face, pervert

Are you sure? Don't you think internalized guilt is speaking here?

>>9934215
No. Also she's only attractive in a technical way because she's imitating older, more mature women. You're an idiot and a pedophile.

>>9934225
Have you considered that it's unhealthy to lie to yourself?

>>9934235
not everyone is a degenerate

>>9934205
>>9934215
>>9934235
uhhhh sauce

>>9934239
not everyone is homosexual

>>9934246
Lexee Smith

>>9933894
The whole pedophile thing is getting ridiculous. I have friends, ages 22/23, who think it's creepy to date girls under 21. Seriously, 22 year old men who think they're pedos for finding 18-20 yo girls attractive.

>>9934255
It's a meme started by women who don't want to sexually compete with younger girls.

>>9934246

>>9934210
>it is until you see her babyfat face

LOL

>>9934270
gross

>>9934215
>>9934205
I find it utterly bland. she's acting like she has more meat and sex appeal than she actually does, and this coupled with her kiddy chubby face makes it kind of cringy. I also know that if I talked to her I would realize she can only talk about disney channel and then lose interest in spending time with her.

>internalized guilt

>implying I would feel guilty being attracted to a video

having pedophilic thoughts is not a crime, but that doesn't mean it's commonplace or healthy either.

also, that girl looks like she at least entered puberty. any attraction a healthy man might feel towards her is simply due to how she vaguely reminds him of an adult woman.

do you find girls like pic related attractive? if so, you're a statistical abnormality. if not, then you're just a normal person LARPing as a pedo to be a contrarian.

>>9934274
>she's acting like she has more meat and sex appeal than she actually does,

I don't think any part of it is an act.

>>9934274
>kiddy chubby face

What

>>9934205
The Jews did this.

>>9934274
>if so, you're a statistical abnormality
Not on 4chan.

>>9933877
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_8toD2CFlg

Watch this woman understand it better than you you stupid virgin.

>>9934274
>also, that girl looks like she at least entered puberty.

Which girls do very early these days due to tapwater estrogen doping intended to make women mature earlier faster and produce more children for the state to work.

>>9934291
uhhhhhhh

>>9933972
something something unreliable narrator

my diary desu

>>9934285
>>9934278
>cherrypicking pictures which are already edited, shot and selected to make her look as sexy as possible

sorry m8, still no reaction from down under. maybe it's the fact that I've actually interacted with children this age and know that they're still far from being a woman.

>>9934287
and most people on 4chan are antisocial psychos, autistic losers and outcasts with inferiority complexes and an incapability to understand/mate with a woman. coincidence? I think not

>>9934289
nice dude, she also has a great lecture on flannery o'connor

>>9933877
The only reason consent laws are a thing is because old crusty ladies didn't want to have to compete with sexy young girls

>>9934274
>vaguely reminds him of an adult woman.
women reach adulthood by 15 or 16 years old

>>9934359
>maybe it's the fact that I've actually interacted with children this age and know that they're still far from being a woman.

Have you? I've spoken to tons of kids and they range from dumb as rocks to cleverer than middle aged people.

>>9934076
A bit older, like 23 or so. Yes.

americans are so cute generalizing their puritan values
the majority of males worldwide agree that PTP is the best

>>9933983

this

http://msc.sagepub.com/content/9/1/2.long

Downs syndrome incidence organized by mother's age

At age 16, 1 in 2,843
At age 20, 1 in 1,441
At age 40, 1 in 84

>Don't take young and healthy partners for yourself! Tyrone needs them, it's necessary for our plan!
>Hitch up with a single mother instead! Care and provide for her mixed race children! It's your duty. If you don't do this, you're not a REAL MAN!

hmm. really provokes thought

>>9934410
how come I never heard about this? why do people disregard such data?
the message here is clear: 15/16 year olds are at a prime age for procreation

>>9934190
get your radfem pseudoscience out of here.

>>9934272
>>9934239
>>9934210

Most of you claiming you're only attracted to adult women don't know what you're talking about. Modern teens are often indistinguishable from adults. This is a 13 year old model named Madisyn Shipman.

>>9934190
>smooth & supple skin is attractive
>this is literally a pedophile's fetish. normal people do NOT get hard ons touching small kids' skin, it is not an erotic characteristic, although it is cute
google "neoteny and attractiveness"

>>9934425
>how come I never heard about this? why do people disregard such data?

Young people being free to have sex is something that's combated on two sides by two difference forces.

1) Religious conservatism, which contrary to its stated mission has nothing to do with morality and consent and is actually focused on barring people from sexual activity when they are at their sexual prime, as a means to suppress extramarital sex.

2) Feminism. For some reason people are spreading a misinformed meme that feminists want the age of consent lowered. Feminists were the people who originally had it raised to 18 if you're not aware, and their stance hasn't changed. Feminists do not want to compete sexually with young attractive girls.

this thread is just sad in the end
I pity you for being so alienated from real life

I truly believe pedophilia can be prevented by having a healthy early family life and proper psychological accompaniment through puberty and sexual development.

if you took the time to talk to children and appreciate them as human beings, you'd understand the peculiarity of their situation at that time in their lives and that they require a more delicate, special treatment than adults. after you realize that, you can't really think about them in that way.

>>9934393
>cleverer than middle aged people.

well that's the thing anon, you have the mind of a 12 year old so of course they seem clever to you

>>9934398
>implying I'm american

>>9934426
>radfem
u w0t m8, radfems would sooner prove all men are pedos and thus should be castrated or whatever

>pseudoscience
oh yes, because grading your personal preferences on a board and calling it the ''common sense of a western nation'' with no justification is impeccably methodical and scientific

>>9934446
>being attracted to fully grown woman is pedophilia
I guess you're just baiting, but being attracted to a 15 year old could, at best, be construed as ephebophilia

>>9934446
We're talking about sexually mature girls, you're posting prepubescent kids. You evidently have lots of images of prepubescent kids saved to your computer.

Is this why you're so upset about this? You're attracted to little undeveloped kids?

>>9934446
There's a huge difference between teenagers and the picture of little girls you just posted and you know it.

>people trying to rationalize pedophilia

this is literally the opposite of what the point of the book Lolita is

>>9934454
Attraction to teenagers is natural and healthy and widespread in men, grouping it in with people who want to fuck infants is wrong.

>>9934455

it's really not

you are lying to yourself to try and rationalize a mental illness you have

>>9934456
Whatever you say, my man.

>>9934456
ephebophilia is neither considered a mental disorder nor a paraphilia
now go away, it's time for your sermon, cuck

Of course all men are attracted to young ladies, the uber popular fetish of schoolgirls wasn't a one guy thing. so stop lying moralfags.

>>9934451
>>9934452
>>9934453
>thread is about Lolita
>the graph deals with kids from 2-12
>''most men are pedophiles who prefer older children'' (prepubescent, starting at 8)
>using the word pedophilia throughout the thread, which unambiguously denotes prepubescent children

if you're conflating discussion about pedophilia with discussion about attraction to postpubertal adolescents then that's on you.

>>9934470
being attracted to younger girls is one thing, actually porking on is a totally different thing.

>>9934471
>using the word pedophilia throughout the thread, which unambiguously denotes prepubescent children

It may refer to prepubescents scientifically/medically, but in general conversation people foolishly use it to refer to attraction to anyone under the age of 18.

>>9934475
You would have sex with an attractive teenaged girl if the opportunity presented itself and there were no consequences for you, so why are you acting superior?

>>9934475
>actually porking on is a totally different thing.
for a americuck, maybe
age of consent in europe ranges mostly from 14 to 16

>>9934476
>in general conversation people foolishly use it to refer to attraction to anyone under the age of 18

well you should know this by now anon, but I'm no fool!
besides, age of consent is 14 where live (still not very socially acceptable though)

>>9934488
Age of consent in the majority of America is 16 as well

At what point did American culture confuse pedophilia and ephebophilia? Is there any books on this subject? I find it strange for a country that's so against underage sex to also have music videos with teeny boppers shaking their ass around. Remember Britney Spears in her slutty catholic school girl outfit? 16 at the time of that video.

>>9934115
I'm pretty sure I can confirm that 11-15 is insanely attractive to me.

>>9934205
depends, is she 18?

>>9934495
>At what point did American culture confuse pedophilia and ephebophilia?

It was a deliberate thing, by lumping ephebophiles in with an already highly demonized and hated word you can transfer some of that onto them. Leftists love language warfare.

>>9934456
>mental illness
>to be attracted to what is conventionally attractive

>>9934495
>Remember Britney Spears in her slutty catholic school girl outfit? 16 at the time
No I don't for the love of god link

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>>9934455
>Wisdom, experience and truth based on reality and science

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>>9934456
>Pseudo-puritan nonsense and lies based on brainwash and repression.

>>9934495
Religious nutcases and feminists.

>>9934507
Pitiful mind slave. Go jerk off to your grannies.

why are most women over 25 so utterly disgusting? it's really sad seeing their youth vanish so fast

Finding young teens attractive is one thing, but I hope you guys don't actually think they're mentally mature for actual relationships.

>>9934527
It's the music video for "Baby One More Time."

>>9934156
LOL that's my girlfriends favorite book

>>9934530
In the Western world, women are being raised by their parents and society to believe they're 'special' and that they can do/achieve anything in life, if they really want to. They grow up spoiled and entitled as 'daddy's little princess'. Therefore they let themselves go, because everything is presented to them. Shitty diet, lots of simple carbs, alcohol, no exercise at all and terrible character development in a hyper masculine society where women want to 'be strong and independent' actively to mimic men.

Women in Asia and around grow up in a society where they are raised rationally and they get shamed for being fat, lazy, stupid slobs. They get have to prove themselves and be a productive member of the family at an early age. Also diet is much better, they invest more in face washes and creams instead of just masking their blemishes with paint in their face. Also women put greater emphasized on regular exercise and healthy nutrition. Less beer and other yeast infested trash in their stomachs + a society that encourages etiquette and the embracing of femininity.

I recommend anyone who thinks attraction to teenagers is a rare thing to make a fake tinder profile presenting as a teenaged girl and observe as thousands of young and middle aged men hit you up offering money for ssex

>>9934551
>Finding women attractive is one thing, but I hope you guys don't actually think they're mentally mature for actual relationships.
Fixed.

This is nothing age specific. Most women in their 40s and 50s are still little children on the inside. Then mental deterioration sets in. So one could argue that women never really mature mentally.

>>9934587
this.

>>9934529
>Pitiful mind slave. Go jerk off to your grannies.
it was a joke, like i wouldnt fuck a woman aged 17 and a half but the day she turns 18 i would.

>>9934587
Hahahaha yeah, I did that once just for fun. I prepared a nice little backstory of who I am and stuff. I only did this for one single day and my inbox was flooded. It was actually crazy to see how much attention women get and how super thirsty and desperate men really are.

>>9934590
>Most women in their 40s and 50s are still little children on the inside.

Yeah really, most women act childish sometimes, so it's ok to fuck kids!

brilliant logic.

>>9934613
>to fuck kids
>dissonance
Nobody here wants to fuck kids buddy. Get real.

>>9934613
Quit living in denial.

>>9934555
>tfw you'll never be a filthy rich jew who gets to breed 16 year old supermodels then ditch them for a new one when they get old

>>9934394
Know how I could tell?

>>9934613

Pedos themselves are stunted people with the emotional stability of a child, so they think everyone else is the same, and they think it's cool to diddle kids with that in mind.

Humbert admits this and explains this in detail, if anybody bothers to read the book.

>>9934771
>Pedos themselves are stunted people with the emotional stability of a child

Most of the world elite, and virtually 100% of Hollywood's most successful people, are pedophiles. Are they stunted too?

>>9934777
>Most of the world elite, and virtually 100% of Hollywood's most successful people, are pedophiles. Are they stunted too?

If that's true, yeah.

Not many hollywood types are known for their maturity and sound decisions either.

>>9934771
>this is what antis actually believe

>>9934771
Pedophiles (ie. people attracted to prepubescent children) have an illness. Kids that young can't reproduce.

People attracted to teenagers have something called a natural, properly functioning sex drive. See >>9934410

>>9934803
>Kids that young can't reproduce
But they are hot.

Is this thread about pedophilia or teenagers? I'm so confused.

>>9934814

both, Humbert liked both so....

>>9934832
also like, if you go before a judge and argue that you banged a 13 year old, not a child, it's not going to get you far...

>>9933877
Wanting to copulate with women in her 13-17 is completely natural, they are fertile and since they are so young and fresh its possible that you will make her sexual life completely monogamous to you only

But isn't Humbert attracted to girls like 14 max? he is a pedophile which is simply not natural to copulate with girls who haven't even ovulated yet

Nonetheless great book, the prose is one of a kind

>>9934836
Damn it, so my lawyer was right all along!

>>9934555
>Jerry 'Breaking TV Ratings and Hymens Alike" Seinfeld

>>9934215
hnnnnngg

>>9934971
You don't find her 'babyfat' face attractive, do you? You monster?

>>9934897
Jerry "'she's a fighter, Jerry!' Kramer yelled" Seinfeld.

>>9934990
fucking kek

>>9934836
in most states there's no strict liability for fucking, say, a 15 y/o- so there goes your shitty argument.

>>9934990
>Jerry "Girlish squeals are the sweetest applause of all" Seinfeld

>>9934981
Muh
motherfuckin
60 fps
dick

>>9935082
I'm going to start collecting slow motion scenes and make 120fps non-slowmo webms from them. You ever seen 120fps video on a monitor that supports it?

>>9935091
No but I'm sure I need to.

>>9934839
>14yo
>pedophile

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>>9935091
>spamming land whale this hard

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>>9934529
These are nice and tight.

this thread is creepier than some of the shit on /pol/

i wish scientists would study why there are so many pedos on 4chan

>>9935265
>i wish scientists would study why there are so many pedos in the male populace
Fixed that for you.

>>9935265
Least amount of brainwashed slaves.

Ironically even /pol/ has more open minded people than any comparable randomly selected group.

>>9933972
Even if/though she did, she probably wasn't imagining a years-long sexual relationship driving all over the country. Even Humbert, in all his unreliability, admits that she doesn't enjoy it

>tfw you just want to discuss books

>>9935284
>books about sexy little girls

>>9935279
Actions have consequence whether you like them or not.

When I spoke to my now-exgf I didn't expect to end up the way I ended up either. You cannot plan when the plans depend to 50% on the whims of another person.

>>9935279

I remember somebody saying once it's not a story about a strong adult taking advantage of a helpless child, it's the story of a strong child taking advantage of a weak adult.

They didn't mean it sexually either. They meant that Lo basically owns humbert after they hook up, he literally has to do everything she wants, and then when she tires of him she just dumps him. It's all the more interesting because he's the one who basically teaches her to be this way. He basically makes her a prostitute, and she makes sure that he pays for everything he gets.

>>9934777
How else would they manage their 'muh seekrit club' attitude?

>>9935300
She was 12, Mr. HIDF

>>9935314
Interesting perspective, I can definitely see that. I guess that's the duality of a nymphet

>>9935255
reddit OUT

>>9934255
Age 23 here. I asked out a 17 year old recently and all the 20-something girls that I work with lost their shit.

>>9935222

>>9934285
>plastic face

This is the epitome of lies and deceit and no amount of "beauty" shown in these pictures will change my opinion that plastic surgeries are the bane of natural beauty.

>>9935986
What part of her face looks surgically modified to you? Pretty sure you can't even get cosmetic surgery till you're 18.

The transcript of Master & Commander

>>9934566
patrician detected

>>9934530
Women aren't attractive past age 15
>>9934551
I started dating my wife when she was 13.
'actual relationships' are a meme.

>>9934836
>law
>objective

>>9934839
Girls are ovulating by 14 you dope.

>>9934446
>real life
Doesn't exist
>muh psychobabble
Back to r*ddit

>>9934274
wow ur SOOOOOOOOOOO MATURE XDDD
Face it woman, I'm not attracted to you. As in, I find absolutely nothing attractive about 'adult women'. No, I do not find the whore being spammed in this thread attractive, either.

>>9934080
Wow I thought this was a photoshop but it's actually a real book. Have you read it? How is it? It looks interesting and like it would suit my favorite book niche of self indulgently feeding my self loathing and half-baked desire to never wake up again.

>>9933983

Good thread

>>9934036
It means she isn't.

>>9936490
kek

>>9933983
>Scientifically
stopped here

>>9934530
Because life is a cruel joke and the mainstream idea of romantic love is a cruel joke.

The only thing that can help you get through life is staying humble and modest, be thankful and seek god's help every day.

>>9934530
>why are most women over 25 so utterly disgusting? it's really sad seeing their youth vanish so fast

Depends where you live.

The same "reasons" could apply to men: poor diet, lack of exercise, lack of sleep, too much sunlight/sunbeds, too much drinking/drugs/smoking....

Then there might be other offputting factors like poor dress sense, stupidity, or feminazism.

Convenience lifestyles and destructive mass ideologies. A woman can actually come across better at a somewhat later age if she's sensible and takes care of herself (veritable MILFs).

>>9933927
>not understanding greentext

>>9934040
>Reaction time

So CSGO players are some of the smartest of the video games players.

>>9936753
If they have great reaction times, their IQ is similarly great.

>>9934566
>tfw no patrician gf

>>9936775
Your statement furthers the idea that IQ is absolutely meaningless in relation to intelligence

>>9936775
>Correlation
>Causation

Pick one you inbred hick

>>9937069
???

In what part of my post did I imply 'causation'

Neither of these two properties (intelligence, reaction time) could be described as being casuatory or effectory to the other in the first place, at best you could say they are both symptomatic of the underlying physiology of the brain

Thank god I am not straight