/lit/ - Literature

To be understood. And people who will pay for the privilege.

to be an alpha male who fucks all those pretty girls.

>>9807605

A qt

Knowledge

>>9807605
good pizza. i mean, ive never had pizza taste bad so how can i know what's good?

An enjoyable job that pays enough to live a decent life.

>>9807834
The same. Although i'd vastly prefer going back to NEETdom as an enjoyable job just seems like some unobtainable myth

I want to want something. Someone, please...

>>9807605
to be normal.
to not feel like an unremittant failure, no matter how well I'm doing.

I want my goddamn broken foot to heal.

>>9807859
I gotta get my foot operated on in september. absolutely dreading it. I'm gonna be even more of a useless sack of shit until it heals.

>>9807843
Why are things like this? Why are jobs so shitty? Is there something wrong with the world or just us?

I want my sick grandma to just die already.

I want the return of of romanticism.

I want to lose weight again.

>>9807863
What happened to your foot? What's the operation going to fix/do?

>>9807605
I've honestly thought about this a lot and I just want to be spiderman, have his powers and webs and a qt redhaired waifu.

To die.

>>9807867
Do it yourself faggot

Her.

Have a sense of purpose, I guess.

Peace

>>9807870
The little band that stabilizes the foot on the outside is all stretched to shit, so my foot just snaps inward at random. If I'm not super careful about how I place my foot, I'm on the ground. It's super annoying and it hurts too. They're gonna tighten it up with screws and... elastic bands?

Afterwards I'll go to the doctor for my left foot, because it's really loose too, but it doesn't snap, so it's not any pressing issue.

>>9807893
Sounds tiring. Good luck with it anon. I'm curious, o you usually exercise? If yes, what kind of exercise. If not, do you think it could be the cause?

>>9807893
how did that happened?

>>9807878
Believe me, i'm trying. But look at the sad sacks in this thread alone and try to understand its going to be an uphill climb for the first 24 hours.

>>9807605
my own flat and decent residency

>>9807899
Thanks. I don't exercise at the moment, but I did exercise regularly before (every second day) and it didn't help. I asked the doctor and he said the chances of fixing it with exercise and rehab is basically nonexistent.

>>9807900
Well, it started a couple years prior. I was in school at the time, on a overnight field trip- and it was my birthday, so naturally, I got hammered. Fell down some stairs. Now, I have this problem where I have this really high pain threshold (so this is actually the second time this has happened once on my wrist, too.) It hurt a lot, but I didn't bother going to the doctor. After a week it hurt a lot less, so I figured it was just a sprain. About 3 months later, I went to the doctor and he said I'd strained two tendons and tore a third, but since I'd taken so long, it had healed wrong. They'd operated on it, used my bone...skin to recreate the tendon, but it was years ago.

That was the incident that started the whole thing with the foot snapping, but I'm starting to suspect there's probably some wacky genetics fucking up my joints.

>>9807605
To be someone else.

>>9807605
Money. Any other answer is retarded beyond belief, and that's the only truth in the world.

>>9807605
For Dan to be published so that people understand real lit and the human condition & stop writing shitty books.

>>9807967
Who is Dan?

>>9807974
lurk here more.

>>9807964
Can you cure cancer and buy love with money?

A gf that will love me for who I am

>>9807976
Yes and yes, money gives you access to top notch medical treatment and women can't love anyway, they just choose the best provider available (=more money).

>>9807981
Money does not in fact cure cancer, nothing does.
And i feel sorry for your mother.

>>9807605
Thick bitch, long hair, yellow white red brown.

>>9807976
Yes, if you're wealthy you have access to the best of everything. Doctors and dietitians, it'd be a small miracle for you to die of cancer. Look at Steve Jobs, do you know why he died? Because he was a fucking idiot who decided homeopathic medicine was the way to go, but by all accounts it's estimated he would have lived despite having Pancreatic Cancer (one of the lowest survival rates) because he had it diagnosed so early and effectively.

And money is the single most important thing in mate selection. The next is appearance, which guess what, you can buy with money.

>>9808028
I didn't say money wasn't important.
But you can't enjoy money if you're sick or dead.
Also money doesn't buy friends and lovers, only sycophants and whores. If you can't tell tell the difference it's on you, not me.

>>9807605
I want to go back to uni because I'm so fucking bored of summer

I want people to started noticing I go to the gym more.

I want to talk to this girl I liked in high school because she's just broken up with her bc, but she's kinda psycho so I know it wouldn't work out would just be a real headache so I'm not gonna do that.

I want to find a pair of speakers to go with the vinyl record player I got like a year ago and had to save up for the rest of the kit to go with but then accidentally bought a really good amp and so have to get speakers that are better than the amp so they don't get blown out or something, which is real headache-inducing money shit especially since I'm moving out soon and need some money for that.

I want free books especially because I looked at that lit philosophy guide and some of the secondary material in that is v expensive but I'm gonna do it anyway, maybe get some of it from the library

I want a part time job that pays well and doesn't involve any arithmetic because I'm a counting on my fingers kind of guy and the idea of working a till freaks me out, but I could do it but I don't want to because I conceived a heavy duty dislike of numbers at some point when I was at school and try to avoid them.

Could do with meeting some /lit/friends that aren't sjws

Could also do with the patience to stick with the things I want to learn like guitar and French. When I was younger I was always preternaturally gifted at the things I was good at so didn't have to work at all and then completely avoided the things I wasn't good at because I was good enough at other stuff to form my personality around that. I'd like to rewrite my brain to stop perceiving difficulty as some kind of dead end and for to be able to more effectively learn skills that take a longer time to develop (something I'm not good at)

Also want some more sun bc my country is bleak and rainy even in summer

>>9807605
I want independence, a girlfriend I like and to go on holiday often. To have good friends and do interesting things in my free time. To work with fun and interesting people. To be safe.

>>9807630
Sounds like what you actually want is bad pizza.

>>9808098
no cause if I get bad pizza and it tastes the same as the pizza Iv already had then I'm still none the wiser

>>9808009
My mother?

>>9807605
I want my gums to stop bleeding. I want to be a quality writer. I want to wipe less when I poop. I want more money so I can buy a small apartment in the Croatian countryside, live off the land, and read and write until I die. I want to be in love with a woman again (I'm 26, haven't loved anyone new since my last relationship at 21). I want to read 60 books before Christmas. I want my parents to live forever. And my dog, too. I want my faucet water to get a little colder. I want a bitcoin. I want to fast. I want home to come to me. I want to camp for long stretches of time. I want to be better at math and learn a second language. I want to be 19 again. I want the world to end all at once so I don't have to miss anyone.

>>9807605
money

>>9808009
>lel we're all equal in death
not really. personally i see a marked difference between a mausoleum and a bog

/lit/ to be good again

>>9808141
Man I'm 19 and it fucking sucks but being 26 seems somehow much worse

To finish and publish my novels and have them succeed enough to funnel the profits into something I care about, then let cancer take me.

>>9808050
>>9808050
>But you can't enjoy money if you're sick or dead.
It's a good thing nothing but money helps abate both.
>>9808050
>Also money doesn't buy friends and lovers, only sycophants and whores. If you can't tell tell the difference it's on you, not me.
How like a poor person, empty pockets full of rationalization. It's just the reverse in reality, only when you're not occupied with day to day survival are you free to truly interact with others. This does not mean sycophants, it means being friends with other rich people. For most people friendship is simply a question of proximity, this person is in the same muddy wallow as me, guess we'll be friends. Only when you're rich do you actually choose and are chosen.

>>9808379
It gets exponentially worse as you enter your twenties.

I WANT ROOM SERVICE

>>9807605
To be free of irrational fear but remain a healthy skeptic

>>9808379
You have no idea.

>>9808141
whats fucking stopping you will-let.

im also 26 and projecting

Honestly? I just want a job where I can survive by myself until old age, allowing for some luxuries along the way. Something where I can go in work alone, and come home. I don't have any friends, don't really want them but it does get lonely often. No SO, never had one. If it happens, it happens but I'm not going to go out looking. I just want to read, play vidya, and watch movies/t.v.

Is that so much to ask? Why do I have to suck at life, I don't get how people function so well.

I want to sacrifice for a worthy cause

>>9808379
It's horrible man. You realize you're a career slave like everyone else. You get engaged, married because why not. You have a kid because why not. All your hopes and dreams from your younger years are fucking dead and gone. It's horrible.

>>9808441
Do you hate being 26 as much as I do?

>>9807605
I want power

>>9807605
To not be alone. To be in a relationship where the prospect of being alone isn't always around the corner.

>>9808444
Help me find a job for my lifestyle, would you kindly?

>>9808460
No. But I wish I could've taken better care of myself when I was a teenager, knew what I know now etc.
I'm getting better now though, solid job in the military, no big responsibilities, no stimulus except what I want. Got my expensive drivers license, and an apartment in my capital city for a fuckload of money so Im indebted to a bank but there is no shame of living at home. Try romance again my man, I fell in love first time at 21 too, took a long time to get over it. Now this past year ive been in twice!! But breakup isnt as bad as it was the first time, still fucking hurts a lot now, but... don't let that shit stand in the way of you living a full life. Or atleast that's what I am trying to tell myself.

Is it stupid that I want something like a big war to happen?
Not even out of bitterness towards but my fellow humans but out of boredom.
I want /something/ to happen.

information

see if you catch the reference

>>9808488
Ennui is killing me too anon. It sounds horrible, and it might not even be true, but I feel like I could be useful in a conscriptive war. And not a Vietnam, but a war where the sides are clear; where people will be proud of your service.

I want to want.

>>9808500
The "problem" is that wars like these are no longer fought by first world countries.
It's all proxy wars, mercenaries, drones and no clear cut sides to take.

A Full-Job that is decent, has growth and something I'll enjoy

a gf who can handle the worst of my 'tism.

lots of cigs and alcohol.

to have my writing not sound like shit.

>>9807843
It's us I think.

Human males want a life of adventure and need a sense of purpose, when europeans came to america their purpose was to build a new life in this country and raise a family here, for 200 hundred years we improved everything, technology, cars, electricity, we built the most technological advanced society, but now we have everything, constant dopamine attractors like videos games and smartphones, super high quality porn with beautifull girls, high quality super hero movies, weed, gay marriage, equality, we have everything, we live in heaven.

So we're getting stale, the reason you think jobs are shitty is because deep down you know it's essentially done, the western world that is, bif you're european you know our fertility rate is pointing us to extinction, what's the point of getting a job a car a mortgage, when you live in multicultural consumer driven society where things are made out off profit and not for the betterment off your friends and people, people that won't exist in the long term future.

You need a purpose, if you don't have a purpose you won't see a point in doing anything arduous, look at elon musk for example, who in their right mind starts a car company after becoming a measly billionaire, a car company ffs, literally one off the worst business you could think off to start up in 2000s america, but he did it and then he did another bad decision and started a bloody private space company, to the point where his friends showed him videos off rockets exploding, the idea was that bad, but now look at it, it's gonna take the majority off the market by 2018, but what's his purpose? He says he tries to think on the future and not be sad, and you can see that reflected in his companies, he knows that the future for us (europeans and world) is not that good and he talked about it publicly so he's trying to mend it, that's his purpose to build a good future.

You have to find yours.

Nothing

I want unconditional happiness.

Checkmate.

>>9808487
Thanks anon. You made my day. I'm glad things are going well for you.

>>9807864
Capitalism

>>9808530
If you're happy or content with nothing, you've won the game.

I want better genes. I don't want to be as severely limited as I am for circumstances that are beyond my control.

I want to marry my girlfriend and live together in a small apartment of a town where many of my friends live with just enough money for food and lots of books.

>>9807605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj9Rm92ioTI

>>9807605
The restoration of European ethnostates

>>9808560
Not gonna happen. Deal with it and move on. I know it's shitty, but that's how it is. Existence preceded essence.

>>9807867
Its coming anon, don't you worry.

>>9808581
*precedes

>>9808576
>restoration
Implies there was one to begin with.

>>9807605
A girlfriend

>>9807866
i feel what you feel man

>>9808540
??? I am impressed a single message had this effect on you. Try a little harder to get the things you want and make your own day!! Maybe lay of reading 60 books till Christmas, it sounds too much like an escape from your other wishes.

>>9808597
this

>tfw nearly all of our media is centered around a notion of romantic love that you've never experienced

I want my smallest brother to actually do something intellectually stimulating for once instead of watching clickbait garbage on youtube all day.
I kind of pity the 2000s kids, they have to grow up with an internet where consumerism is much more present than it was in my days, and everything feels much more "fake".

I want die without hurting my family

>>9808629
http://www.e-flux.com/journal/83/141287/overcoming-internet-disillusionment-on-the-principles-of-meme-design/

To want.

>>9808637
Just wait like 60 years and you're good.

>>9808576
Soon

>>9808658
But then I have to work to feed myself for those 60 years, and have to feel the physical pain of my body wilting. It's too much to handle for no payoff.

>>9808673
>It's too much to handle for no payoff.
Depends on your perspective, seek a therapist.

I just want someome that can deal with my insecurities. It doesn't mean I'm not going to try to get rid of them but someone that can just "adapt to" as I will adapt to him too and in trying to fix these things. But almost everyone have given up on me and I can't blame them.

>>9807882
You will never have me, anon

>>9808694
Why can't you stumble in to my dumb life? God damn.

>>9808717
into

>>9807975
Negro I've been here 5 years, not once have I heard of this Dan.

>>9808358
Once dead you won't.

>>9808703
Read Merimee's Carmen.

>>9807975
t. Dan

>>9808513
Elon a real one

A combination of nothing, being left alone, and actually wanting to want something.

I just want some direction in my life

>>9808629
I know that feel my younger step brother is visiting a better school than I did, but he is kinda the same retard that i was back then, playing videogames and tv/youtube

>>9807605
to be remembered to change the world. unattainable really so prob just have to become a serial killer

I want a peaceful world where I can just relax for once in my goddamn life

A soft gf to cuddle and a legacy that rivals the Gods'.

>>9808542
underrated

For this hangover to go away

>>9809301
Drink Gatorade.

To live well without suffering a miserable, soul-crushing job

>>9809301
drink unsweetened tea and eat bread without anything on it

>>9808105
if you get bad pizza and it tastes the same as all the others than you know you've only ever had bad pizza. are you retard?

To fart around and see things. I fantasize about getting a cheap, fuel efficient car and just traveling all across the USA with my Rottweiler cassius. I want to build up enough money to do this comfortably I guess.

I've told nobody about it and I wouldn't let anyone know as I was going. It would be my journey, and mine alone.

>>9807859
Has anyone ever tried trepanning on themselves? The more I read the more tempted I am to do it

I want to understand what I read.

I want to travel and live in europe for a bit doing web dev contract work overseas. I'm in uni right now so that won't happen for a while but would be an amazing endgame.

>>9807605
a literary jewish gf

>>9808514
best answer

>>9809356
eat lots of beans and drop acid

>>9807605
I want her.

To feel sincere emotion / enjoy being alive without being constantly baked and drunk as a prerequisite

a qt girlfriend please and thank you

Read Platoh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqflC-as2Qo

Trouble.

>>9809332
I'm really nauseated

>>9809511
that's why you eat and drink that. It helps. do it slowly and don't move around a lot, just force it down.

>>9809519
Help. Me. I'm dying

a spectacle free society

I want to meet people, talk with people, do things with people, drink with people, party with people.
And at moments I also want to isolate myself from all these people.

>>9809622
How the hell do you want that when we can't even know the thing-in-itself?

>>9807605

I'm in the middle of breaking up with my gf. I just want this to go well.

>>9809632
>How the hell do you want that when we can't even know the thing-in-itself?
It's embedded in our everyday, we're just programmed to ignore and soil it.

>>9807630
Order pizza from a local pizzeria, then order pizza from a fast-food pizza place like Domino's. You'll be able to tell the difference.

>>9807964
>Money. Any other answer is retarded beyond belief, and that's the only truth in the world.

heh can you be anymore first world? fucking plebian taste. obviously the correct answer is to achieve nirvana you fucking trogladyte. money is worthless you kike

>>9808500
Go to Rojava for the lulz

The days keep flying by and I do nothing, all the time. I keep longing for stupid shite like 4chan when it was virgin soil for me and I pretend it was better but I've always hated being here and spend all day here, and it's all because I've never actually experienced something worthwhile. I'm saving a few grand to fuck off travelling which seems like just a vague ideal when I examine it but it's nice to have.

Financial security so i can dedicate my time to Arts.

Some money and a less tired consciousness.
And a smooth, non-wavy carpet.
And to be published.

I want a lot of things

I want to be the very best that no one ever was.

To be pretty and cute more than anything else honestly. A close shared secobd place is being a mother and being a successful author

I want to create something I can be proud of

To lose my virginity before I die.

>>9809954

You already know this is going to end in disappointment.

Fuck that's sad.

>>9809975
Worst thing is I bet he probably doesn't even look deformed or anything.

>>9809983
I'm not ugly. I had some girls hit on me aggressively from their car window the other day. I'm just NEET prime and socially retarded.

Power, time and no responsibilities.

Truth. I want to know it, I want to breathe it, I want to live it.

>>9810024
It would almost be better if you were ugly.

>>9809975
Why can't we just legalize prostitution? It would make everything so much easier.

>>9810095
t. normie

Prostitution is never really "losing your virginity", because a large part of that experience is knowing that someone loves and trusts you enough to let you be the closest a human being can be to them. It's a physical pleasure, but also a mental satisfaction of knowing that someone genuinely cares about you, at least for that moment. No matter what you've done or will do, in this moment you are good enough for someone to want to be with you.
When you're in a relationship its filled with these little things. You'll be watching a movie, or on your computer, and she'll wrap her arms around you, or just nuzzle her head into your shoulder, and you'll pause and realise you don't need to ask yourself if you're good enough or deserve to be happy anymore. Because someone else has already answered that question, and they'll love you even if you don't know how to love yourself.

>>9810095
Why can't you just nut up and get a craiglist whore?

>>9810110
Fuck you for posting this. That's another day lost to drinking.

>>9810116
Women don't find me attractive. If they did I wouldn't have to buy one.

>>9810024
That's even worse, get a grip man.

>>9810110
>because a large part of that experience is knowing that someone loves and trusts you enough to let you be the closest a human being can be to them. It's a physical pleasure, but also a mental satisfaction of knowing that someone genuinely cares about you, at least for that moment. No matter what you've done or will do, in this moment you are good enough for someone to want to be with you.

This is how a virgin talk about sex.

I already have it, so nothing.

>>9810110

Yeah, reminds me of Perry Caramello bragging about all the porn stars he's banged, and his two best friends reminding him that he paid for them. See windy city heat or the big three podcast if you don't know what the hell I'm talking about, which I'm sure you don't, and I'm sure you're not going to look it up either. Fuck me.

>>9810110
When you've gone your entire life without having sex, the physical act itself (even removed from the context of love) is unbelievably important to you. I don't care if the woman hates me, I just need to carry out the act for my own sanity.

>>9807605
To live in a racially homogenous western patriarchy.

>>9807892
Cuck

>>9808569
good shit anon

>>9810147

Well if you ever had sex, you would know the physical act of it is meaningless. The biggest part about sex is just knowing there's this gorgeous women who likes you so much that she takes her clothes off and shoves her tongue up your ass and lets you blow jizz all over her lips. I mean she likes you that fucking much dude.

You take that element out, and....I don't even see what the point is. I don't think I could even get hard if it was some bored whore checking her twitter feed while you pull down her panties.

>>9808569
Is your gf an indian dude in a wig...?

>>9810122
Yeah? I also see the act I described in >>9810110 as a repulsive display of narcissism. This love, this devotion to another person - Stirner would call it a spook. One thinks the world of the other person, convinces themselves that this person is perfect, only so that it may bring the ultimate pleasure in the form of a massive ego stroke, when the object of your desire reciprocates. Where is the beauty is this act of narcissism? It is further repulsive as an animalistic satisfaction of desire and lust.

I prefer my solitude, perhaps out of spite.

>>9810156
Patrician.

>>9810167
Spoken like someone who gets to have sex regularly. Conditional attention is better than isolation.

>>9810185
Prostitution isn't attention though.

Their attention is on your money, you're just the obstacle they need to get out of the way.

>>9810185
I don't even know why you're arguing this, considering that you're such a spineless worm that you don't even have the guts to get a prostitute.

>>9810197
You can't explain away emotion, just because something isn't something else, doesn't mean it must fail to satisfy. The act of exchanging money is short, the act one paid for a masterful illusion and a real one at that.

Will it make things worse? Perhaps no more than any other sex.

a cute girlfriend/lover
one or two good friends
time to read lots of books and watch lots of movies

>>9810208

alright, whatever virgin boy. Good luck with it.

>>9810197
The cost of casual sex is eliciting the woman's hormonal attraction. Sex isn't less legitimate when you replace that cost with actual money. Physical attraction may satisfy your ego more, but the act of sex itself is supra-emotional. A wet pussy attached to an attractive woman doesn't become any less physically pleasing just because she's not into you.

>>9810232
>Physical attraction may satisfy your ego more

If you think sex is soley based on physical attraction on the FEMALE'S side.....you got a hell of a lot to learn about the world.

>A wet pussy attached to an attractive woman doesn't become any less physically pleasing just because she's not into you.

Uh yeah, it does. It becomes 100% less pleasing to me, in fact.

>>9810167
Being a virgin is shitty for more reasons than not doing the physical act. You haven't done something that almost everyone you interact with has. You can start to question yourself -- is it because of who you are? Are you hopeless? It is very easy to get lost in your own thoughts if you haven't boinked. It becomes meaningless like you've said only after it has been conquered.

It is dangerous, I feel, to be a virgin for too long. After a while you can start to lose your confidence, which would only make it more difficult. Scary stuff.

I want to be the person I tell people I am.
I want to be the person I am in my fantasies
I want to have written "it"

>>9810248
>100% less pleasing to me

Don't be idiotic, have you never fapped to porn? Are you completely asexual, is all you get from sex an ego stroke - an in this case are you a sociopath?

>>9810248
You're not enjoying the physical act, you're enjoying the confirmation of your ego. You don't need sex for that, you can get as much satisfaction just by being popular and well-liked.

>>9810253
I know I'm going to commit suicide at some point, I'm just waiting for my parents to pass. To say I have no self-confidence is an understatement. I don't even like subjecting myself to other people because I think that them interacting with me ruins their day.

>>9807605
I wanna be me, but richer and selling books who will help people

>>9810264

Porn is impersonal, there's no other actual person involved. You're fucking yourself, you realize that, right?

>>9810269

The physical act is good, but it's meaningless without the mental aspect. You can't really get as much satisfaction because even if you're popular and well liked, not everyone likes you enough to cram your balls in their mouth.

Even if you could, it's like saying you can have fun playing baseball, so just stick to baseball and do nothing else because everything else is meaningless.

The mental gymnastics you virgins have to play with yourselves is both hilarious and creepy.

>>9809753
hippy dippy post modern nu age bullshit epitomizes the first world mentality. Saturated in ease and comfort you choose something contrary just for the sake of it, like a dumb faggot. It takes a certain amount of discernment to realize the plainness of the truth, money is everything in life.

>>9810294
>The mental gymnastics you virgins have to play with yourselves is both hilarious and creepy.
All we're saying is that the world's oldest profession is worth participating in. You're the one circuitously connecting sex to ego satisfaction. You're the one using mental gymnastics.

>>9810294

>You're fucking yourself, you realize that, right?

not that anon but that is what masturbation is, yes. do you really think you're being le deep right now?

>>9810285
Really? Even with all the beautiful things in the world? You would trade all of that away for nothing in return?

To ease into death, to find the conviction and acceptance necessary to face the totality of my failure.

>>9810269

I love shut-in logicfags. They remind me of Mr. Spock in the star trek movie when then went back in time to san francisco in the 80s and everyone laughed at how ridiculous he was. That's you bro.

Except the realistic equivalent of the movie would be Spock bent over a dumpster, his robe pulled over his head, with blood dripping out of his underpants and a knife in his temple.

The real world isn't logical.

>>9810322
Nothingness sounds like a great deal against my day to day existence, shadowed ever by the promise of adversity tomorrow.

>>9810310

No, I'm not, because most things really aren't deep.

>>9810341

lol you are such a boring fucking sophist.

>>9810322
We live in a world where sex and the idea of romantic love permeate everything. It's the subject of most music, most television, most literature, most advertising. Not being able to participate in something that your body and your culture are begging you to participate in saps the joy out of every other potential facet for happiness. And it gets worse the older one gets, because the pool of available attractive women around your age decreases.

>>9810322
>all the beautiful things in the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

>>9810332
The world isn't logical, I agree. Which is why sex with prostitutes is pleasurable despite the fact that you didn't seduce her.

>>9810353

>links a wiki article in defense of choosing suicide

~ just modern boy things ~

>>9810362
That wasn't me.

>>9810359
nope it isn't, it's the sad truth you have to cling to, to satisfy YOUR ego. To tell yourself that obtaining sex in this manner is just as meaningful. To make it sting less knowing that even most autistic queebs can loose their virginity as a teenager, and it actually says a lot about you, not just sexually, but as a person that you're unable to obtain something that goddamn simple.

>>9810367

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75fyFAh29XY

>>9810362
People are evolutionarily compelled to find significance in the mundane. But the mundane is all there is, as is evident to anyone on the receiving end of evolution's cruelty and cognizant enough to understand their own programming . There's nothing wrong with suicide, it's just millions of years of primal instinct with a healthy dose of Christ-cuck conditioning, and a disney-wallstreet-marketing afflicting your brain that says otherwise.

>>9810377
I don't know why the idea of someone purchasing prostitutes makes you so angry. Yes, the fact that I can't participate in something that's so easy for most people to participate in does say something about me and my inherent worth, which is why I'm killing myself. Why do you feel the need to attack people like me for being worthless? Do you attack poor people for being poor?

>>9810400
desu I find that other poster to be much more worthless than you

>>9810377

who cares how he gets his dick wet? why are you bothering to lecture other men on their choice of bedding habits this much in the first place? it should mean shit all to you. you think that actually conveys the strength that you hope it does? it doesn't. you sound desperate to affirm your worth itt.

>>9810170
>love is repulsive. I actually PREFER to be completely alone!

>>9810385

Save it for your interior monologues; I don't agree in the slightest.

>>9810400
Not really angry, I'm actually having fun watching a baseball game and half heartily typing these things. If it makes it sting less, you can pretend I am though.

You're the one who tried to argue your position isn't as pathetic as it is, I just knocked you back down is all. If a poor person argued that being poor is a noble thing at that money is meaningless and it says nothing about them personally, and that if they rented money it'd be the same thing as having it, then yeah I'd smack them back down too.

Get your shit together, nobody feels sorry for you.

>>9810424
It is repulsive, but long term commitment is less so.

>>9810426

>Not really angry, I'm actually having fun
>If it makes it sting less, you can pretend I am though.

you are leagues more insecure than he is, and it's evinced in the fact that you're trying so hard to seem anything but. the fact that you revel so much in these hostility sessions of yours speaks volumes. larp as secure and winning all you want but no man who was truly in a good place in life would be talking all the shit that you are, and you know it.

>>9810450
I have an hour to kill before I go to bed, and I'm a fast typer so....there you have it. But whatever you say bro, sure.

>>9810460

>w-whatever you say

>>9810426
If someone in this thread was arguing that paid-for sex is as good as romantic love, or even regular casual sex then they're obviously wrong. My only argument was against the notion that sex per se is worthless unless your partner is genuinely attracted to you. That's a perspective one can only hold if one has regular access to sex. If one doesn't, then the peak experience of making love with a prostitute is inherently superior to never having that experience with anyone at all. My only point is that bad sex is better than no sex, particularly when you're desperate.

>>9810464
yada yada. And once again we should somehow feel less sorry for you because of xxx justification your sex depraved brain has thought up.

You know all the thinking you have to do is actually way more work than just going out and talking to people?

I wish everyone died.

>>9810479
this but unironically

>>9810484
I wasn't being ironic.

>>9810471
People have been purchasing prostitutes for literally thousands of years, yet somehow me wanting to try it out is the result of my uniquely crazy sex-starved brain?

>>9807605
>to stay with my GF
>to get /fit/
>for my face to clear up
>a worthwhile college experience
>a good job
>to learn how to use my goddamn drawing tablet
>to write a book
>for my dreams to stop being so stressful

>>9810479
>>9810484
t. satan

>>9810486

why are you still engaging in this exchange? you do understand that he's using you as a soapbox, right? he likes to play mother hen like a fag. go and live your life how you want to.

I just want to gain weight. I'm 5'11" 128 lb and I refuse to leave the house until I look somewhat normal. Everything else I want in life I know I can get if I put my mind to it, I know I can get an active social life and gf because I'm good looking and people like me. But my damn weight...I just can't do it. I've been putting my life on hold for the past year and a half to gain the weight. Once I get to at least 140-145 I can get a job and get my life started finally

>>9810486
So? people thought bleeding your humors out was effective healthcare for thousands of years. Doesn't mean it's a great idea.

There's been sad, lonley losers and drunk sailors for thousands of years, that's supposed to make it ok for you being such a little homo boy?

>>9810513

>There's been sad, lonley losers and drunk sailors for thousands of years

Not that anon but a lot of wealthy and powerful people do the same thing all the time. I'd wage even more so than everyday spergs who take to it. I get the dislike for it but this is simply an incorrect narrative that you are pushing.

>>9810540
>Not that anon but a lot of wealthy and powerful people do the same thing all the tim

well pay attention to the argument. If someone bangs a whore, but is otherwise capable of actually obtaining a women, I think that's weird, but whatever I don't really care.

Someone banging a whore, and then saying that counts as losing their virginity, and saying it somehow makes them less pathetic is the issue we're dealing with. I think it actually makes you more pathetic.

>>9810170
>only so that it may bring the ultimate pleasure in the form of a massive ego stroke

Says who?

>>9810513
Do you think that people should be able to be judged for their bad inherent characteristics?

>>9810546

>well pay attention to the argument.

I have been. You are trying very hard to make it seem like socially dejected people are the only ones who ever engage in this sort of thing when in reality the very top percentage of the world's wealthy and powerful who do it just as much. Possibly even more.

>>9810546

>Someone banging a whore, and then saying that counts as losing their virginity

It literally does though. By definition. You are feeling a lot of feelings right now but you are no longer making any sense.

>>9810385

''People are evolutionarily compelled to find significance in the mundane''

No.

''But the mundane is all there is,''

No

''as is evident to anyone on the receiving end of evolution's cruelty and cognizant enough to understand their own programming''

No correlation can be found between people who suffer and people who have your worldview. This worldview is in fact most prevalent in places where people ''officially'' suffer the least.

'' There's nothing wrong with suicide''

Following that logic would have you kill yourself already, but something is holding you back no?

'' it's just millions of years of primal instinct with a healthy dose of Christ-cuck conditioning, and a disney-wallstreet-marketing afflicting your brain that says otherwise.''

Or it could be, huh, rationality?

Walking around drunk, high and horny with $400 to spend on Amsterdam whores was one of the best nights of my life. The women looked like supermodels

>>9810559
>. You are trying very hard to make it seem like socially dejected people are the only ones who ever engage in this sort of thing

Yeah...that's because that's who I've been specifically talking about. Haven't made any statements about rich and powerful and whatever, don't push your assumptions on me.

>>9810566
>It literally does though. By definition

Nope, sorry, doesn't count. Hows about this, how about you actually try it? All this argument, and we know your spineless ass hasn't actually gotten a whore. Go do it. Take a double dose of your meds, chug some arbor mist, and just do it, then tell us how much better you feel. Hint: it won't be any better.

>>9810336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVQ8DWnKdq8

>>9810350
Just because most art is driven by sex doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. You're disbarring art from what you think is beautiful because it reminds you that you're a virgin? Nah dude. If you can't enjoy art because it reminds you of sex then how could you possibly enjoy sex? and at that point, why be depressed about it if you can't enjoy it anyways?

>>9810353
I don't have internet I can't view that

>>9807605
A real sense of community. I think I'm realizing that I should try to salvage and inspire what potential can be found in people rather than just resent their boringness.

>inb4 you are boring

>>9810573
I lost my virginity to an escort overseas when I was 18 and it felt great. Helped get over my anxieties and I came back home and had a healthy sex life

>>9810583
thank you for your lying post.

Peace of mind.

>>9810580
Just judging by your post, you don't strike me as a ball of fire, but I'll take your word for it.

>>9810573

>Nope, sorry, doesn't count. Hows about this, how about you actually try it? All this argument, and we know your spineless ass hasn't actually gotten a whore. Go do it. Take a double dose of your meds, chug some arbor mist, and just do it, then tell us how much better you feel. Hint: it won't be any better.

Are you a femanon? I only ask because this is a ludicrous amount of emotion.

You are saying that a virgin who pays a whore and has sex with said whore is still a virgin. When it is pointed out to you that this isn't the case by very definition you freak out and start emotionally rambling that it isn't. But it is. By definition. Whether or not that guy feels "any better" is beside the point. The act is what the act is.

>>9810589
I'm not even the guy you were replying to, it's not a lie. I was in Amsterdam alone and had money to spend, don't see why this is so outlandish you'll call it a lie. It's just fucking a prostitute anon

>>9810592
You are not wrong. I guess a secondary desire would be to figure out what aspect of my individuality is worth inflating for the public. I hold out hope that most people who are well-cultured/intelligent/specialsnowflake/etc. can flaunt their rich interior world and show people how to be interesting (or at least make them comfortable with just showing up and existing in a community), but figuring out how to do that in a way that doesn't seem contrived is the difficult part.

>>9810604

I'm 80% convinced this dude is actually a femanon. The emotion levels are through the roof to the point of being nonsensical. It would explain why "he" has such a boner for raging over this topic too.

>>9810578
>Just because most art is driven by sex doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
That wasn't my point. What I'm saying is that if your culture and your own biology perceive sex as the raison d'etre of life, then not being able to participate in that is unbelievably isolating and alienating.

>>9810593
nope, and I don't have much actual emotion at all. It's called writing creatively, in order to express something.

> But it is. By definition.

Keep telling yourself that bro. We'll all pretend to believe you, and laugh at you behind your back.

>The act is what the act is.

Isn't the act of a sex a consensual act between two people? Is sex between a man and an unwilling child considered to be that child losing their virginity? Or any other weird combination of scenarios you can think up, like a sad lonely adult paying an unwilling pillhead with scabies to thrust into said's unshaven scabby puss?

>>9810608
It makes sense. Women tend to perceive sex more emotionally too, which is why they rarely hire male prostitutes.

>>9807625
hahahaha
But what are you really after?

>>9810615
Prostitutes give consent. It's not like you'd be raping her.

>>9810608
Agree, a virgin is just a person who hasn't had sex, when you fuck for the first time, it's losing your virginity, doesn't matter who it is. And fucking the escort was great, I told her it was my first time (something I wouldn't admit if it was anyone else) and she helped me through it. If I was trying to lose it to some random girl I would have been a jittery, nervous mess

>>9807867
It's called "anime"
And it's all they're giving you

>>9810615
>Is sex between a man and an unwilling child considered to be that child losing their virginity?
Yes
>Or any other weird combination of scenarios you can think up, like a sad lonely adult paying an unwilling pillhead with scabies to thrust into said's unshaven scabby puss?

Now you're just admitting to be arguing for some moral crusade, not on the sematics on virginity. Kill yourself anon, it's just fucking. Men and women have been losing their virginity in a multitude of different ways for thousands of years

>>9810628
can it really be consent when a person doesn't actually want to be there? They don't actually want to have sex with you. The only reason they're doing is because you're paying them.

If somebody said they'd give you a million dollars if you let them piss in your eyes, and you do it, are you really consenting? Are you really ok with people pissing in your eyes, or are you just doing it for money?

So in any case, I'm off to bed. I'll pretend you're sucking my dong in my dreams, hey that might count as loosing your v-card too bro! Think optimistic about this beat down!

>>9810649
Also, stop implying that fucking a prostitute is rape, becaue it isn't, just like punching a boxer in a ring isn't assualt

>>9810609
Sex and art are one in the same in that case. You can still feel a social connection with people by appreciating art. What more are you looking for?

>>9810654
see>>9810656

and

>If somebody said they'd give you a million dollars if you let them piss in your eyes, and you do it, are you really consenting?
Yes

>>9810615

>Keep telling yourself that bro. We'll all pretend to believe you, and laugh at you behind your back.

I've never slept with a prostitute. I am simply telling you that if a virgin anon (like that guy you were raging at) decided to pay one for sex and did in fact go ahead with it then he is no longer a virgin by the end of it. This is simply objective truth.

How is basic reality triggering you this hard?

>Isn't the act of a sex a consensual act between two people?

A whore who agrees to fuck a guy when the price is right isn't consenting to sex in that moment? What? For real I'm 90% sure you're a chick at this point because you're putting an emotional gloss over everything and it's fucking with your rational reading of the situation. You are trying to argue a point that is incorrect by definition simply because of your feelings.

>>9810657
I'm looking for a real romantic connection, not a facsimile I can live through vicariously.

>>9807857
you are normal my friend
Everything under the sun is accepted and so are you, you are good, 'nice day

>>9810632
Name 5 romantic animes

>>9810654
Even if you don't think that it's losing your virginity, it can still give you the physical confidence you need to seduce a woman. Never having been with someone create a mental barrier that makes it seem impossible until you've crossed it.

Losing your virginity to a prostitute is like using an helicopter to reach a mountain's peak when your objective was to attain spiritual enlightenment with the sights that are only available to the one who has accessed the mountaintop.

>>9810668
What's the difference?

>>9807605
Lots of money and a cute girlfriend.

>>9810654

>Think optimistic about this beat down!

You've somehow managed against all odds to still be the most insecure person in this thread.

Quite the feat.

>>9808067
It's great that you have things that you want anon just go ahead and pursue then don't just cry on here

>>9810701
The subtle things. Like the smell of a woman's hair as she's leaning on your chest, or the small conversations you have before work. Books can't really impart those feelings.

>>9810697
>spiritual enlightenment
That's an expression I can only imagine a dirty hippie using it in earnest.

>>9810713

Like this fine lad for example?

>>9808448
You just want to sacrifice the rest is just an excuse and I don't think it's good for you to want to give up on yourself for something else rather than to work for your own. So go ahead and sacrifice yourself for knowledge

>>9810654
>if somebody said they'd give you a million dollara if you let them puss in your eyes, and you do it, are you really consenting?
Yes, you don't have to dress it up as something grotesque, by accepting the money youre accepting the terms to which the money is procured.

>>9810567
>This worldview is in fact most prevalent in places where people ''officially'' suffer the least.
It's not simply a question of suffering, but rather suffering with the capacity to reflect. That is a luxury of sorts.
>>9810567
>Following that logic would have you kill yourself already, but something is holding you back no?
I've got my suicide planned for next month. These sort of things demand ritual, so.

>>9810567
>No.
t. visceral dog

>>9810654

>If somebody said they'd give you a million dollars if you let them piss in your eyes, and you do it, are you really consenting?
you don't have the best grasp on what consent entails anon.

>>9808448
You just want to sacrifice the rest is just an excuse and I don't think it's good for you to want to give up on yourself for something else rather than to work for your own. So go ahead and sacrifice yourself for knowledge

>>9810734

Are you implying only first worlders can reflect?

Sorry lad, I was just trying to give you a reply about as sophisticated as your post.

>>9810748
Obviously, that's where the 'least suffering' comes in. You have leisure time, unlike some third worlder working a sweatshop mill every waking hour of their life just to live.

>>9807616
This

>>9807605

threads on /lit/ about fiction novels
threads about philosophy by people who have never read a philosophic text in their entire lives to fuck off to /his/

>>9810753

Time and education would be a factor if the arguments that support your worldview were to be particularly complex or obscure. I don't believe that's the case though.

>>9807892
Peace is death

>>9810712
You can definitely emulate that to its full effect, perhaps with music. Books don't have the emotive intensity that you need.

JUST ONE PEPSI.

The world to wake up

>>9810778
What you believe is what most people believe.

>>9809683
Do we say it is good pizza because it is loved by a local pizzeria, or does the local pizzeria love it because it is good pizza?

I wish I was a better and less narcissistic person.

>>9810868

This is just a reverse appeal to popularity. Something is not necessarily more correct because only few people believe in it. Certainly more people believe the earth is round rather than flat ; this doesn't indicate flat earthers are more correct about the earth's size and shape.

Now, if you mean to say that what (you think) I believe is what the mass believes and the mass is dumb and stupid and therefore incorrect on must subjects, and so that you would be more correct as a result of your worldview being in opposition to the one held by the idiotic pleb ; well that's a better argument but still not a sufficient one because outside these people there are many worldviews and arguments, not few.

Also remember you're on /lit/. If you suppose that /lit/ brings the kind of people you would expect it to bring, and it probably does, then you could probably also allow yourself to suppose the people here may believe, in surface, what the mass believes but with significantly more sophisticated arguments.

I want to be able to enjoy things like I could in my adolescent and teenage years.

>>9810912
And like most people you are tiring and repetitive.

>>9810923

What's tiring is this: people like you shitting up the thread with one bait post and replying with non-committal answers. Why don't you go back to your favorite subredd*t where you can endlessly masturbate about your perceived view of the world?

>>9807605
I want to unsee.

i want to move to north korea

>>9807605
I want to be able to believe in God again.

>>9811027
>able to
Is it truly up to your ability to do so?

The ability to live gracefully regardless of how the world treats me.

>>9810764
>>9807616
pleasing girls, so being a beta

arhantship

>>9807605
A decent job with the girl I love. Is that too much to ask?

>>9807616
Ehhh. I wouldn't trade it for being a shut in but equally so you get bored.

I alternate now.

>In highschool
>Smart, good at sports, but pimply and kind of chubby
>End of highschool get lean, smarter than most peers because shut in with few friends so all I did was read
>Get gf
>Date for 6 years
>She leaves
>Go through depression and then go cocoon mode
>Come out of it a year later ripped as fuck, smarter than ever, loaded because all I did was work, workout and read
>Start going out all the time
>Get pussy 3-4 times a week for about 6 months (different girls)
>Loses it's appeal

Now I try and have sex like once a month. I'm kind of going back into the cocoon.

>>9808500
Literally happening right now all over Africa and the ME. Possible happenings incoming in Latin America. Also Ukraine is still at war.
You really want to go? Go.

I seriously considered Ukraine when I was watching Maiden. Decided not to for several reasons, but none that involved threat of fatality.

If you want to see combat but also want a professional army training regiment join the Legion.

>>9808569
Your gf will eventually want more from you. And will leave you for more. Our modern society dictates it as the order of events.

T. An anon who's been there.

To either wake up or dream forever.

>>9811103
>i'm rich, buff, and have tons of sex
>it's not that special bro
i know it's technically true, but to people in bad circumstances it sounds unbelievably privileged

>>9811148
I understand that. And it's why I pointed out I wouldn't trade it for being a shut in neet. It's definitely a better option.
Also I'm not rich. Just work alot and save.
Getting a dope body is by no means easy, but easily achievable with discipline.
And sex these days falls basically into the same category. Fix yourself up, learn to be fun, lie a little and you can get into any bitches pants.

I'm a poor immigrant kid from bumfuck Eastern Europe man. I don't like it when Americans born into this wonderful land pass up on all the opportunities presented to them.

Gym memberships are cheap.
Entertainment is everywhere.
Women are whores.
Jobs are abundant.

No excuse unless you don't want it. And that's the distinction.

>>9811123

He's happy in his relationship right now. Don't do that shit. Let the kid be happy. You know nothing about his relationship situation.

>>9811161
Tough love anon. He can continue being happy. But he should also be aware.

It's the same story since the beginning of time. And you shouldn't get so upset either, because anyone who's been through it knows he won't listen anyways. We all learn the hard way.
Makes us stronger.

>>9807606
This.

I want my perspective to have a positive impact on the world.

Decent social skills or even charisma and not to be depressed, anxious, and tired all the time.

>>9807867
Goddamn this.

>>9811168

>Tough love anon.

Lmao no you're just trying to piss on a guy's parade because he's in a good thing right now and you're not. Guaranteed I've had way worse luck in this arena than you have and I'd never try to undermine the current happiness that another guy is feeling in his relationship just because I'm not where I'd like to be on that front. That is total bullshit. Where the fuck do you get off trying to piss on another man's happy relationship?

>>9807605
To be special, to be smart, and to be sure of myself and my abilities. As it is now, I feel like a retarded child that never fully understands the things the other kids do.

I want the world to go back to intellectual times.

A billion USD from Bill Gates.

>>9809555
Are you dead?

>>9811194
You are a girl, right? /lit/isn't a tumblr safespace, there guy was just telling the truth.

>>9811947
No I made, I just lost a few brain cells

I want to have an iq of over 160

>>9807964
life would be boring with too much money.the paradoxical thing is you usually realise that when youre rich.