/lit/ - Literature

Some people use it to refer to a stateless, classless commune, and other people use it to refer to any government built on communist ideology.

>>9795955

I like this one
https://www.marxists.org/archive/camatte/wanhum/wanhum04.htm

>>9795955
I think communists probably have the best handle on what it means, as literally thousands of them have written literally hundreds of thousands of pages on what it is

But, you know, communist manifesto is a good guide to what the historical program and aims of communist organization were. If you're curious I would start there, takes like an hour to read.

The best way to analyze a historical phenomenom is by how it actually manifested itself in the real world.

The words of communists about what communism is and how should it work are about as meaningless as the words of Robert Filmer about how the divine rights of kings should work. You don't look for that, you look for the actual actions of kings who claimed divine right to rule like Louis XIV.

So, how did communism manifested itself in the real world, what are the commonalities that tie the communist experience in as distinct countries as Poland and Vietnam, Cuba and the Soviet Union, Ethiopia and Czechoslovakia?

It is certainly not economic policy. Communist countries have shown several different economic policies, from the NEP and "Socialism with Chinese characteristics", to North Korean autarchy. So, as an historical phenomenom, communism can't be about economics.

So what it is? What ties all these different communist countries together as part of the same historical phenomenom. From my study about communism, I'd say it is the absolute control the Communist Party exercised over the political, cultural and social spheres. This is what something never handed over to their enemies. Lenin may have handed over power to the capitalists through the NEP, as did Deng Xiaping, Tito and that guys in Hungary, but no communist leader ever handed political power to anyone else.

Now, considering that Gramsci considered the "Communist Party" not to merely the formal party, but the collective of the activist civil society and intelligentsia, then it is undeniable that the Western world is increasingly becoming communist, as NGOs and intellectuals becoming increasingly the main holders of political, cultural and social power. Economical power escapes them, but as previous historical experience shows, actual communists don't value it as much as their propaganda says it they would.

>>9796017
What about the communist project as real human community that has surfaced again and again throughout history ie. the paris commune, krondstadt, Czechoslovakia, paris 68?

>>9796040
>the paris commune, krondstadt, Czechoslovakia, paris 68?
>leftcom detected

Abandoning thread

>>9795955
>what does this word mean?
Wikipedia
>why do so many people disagree on its meaning?
Lenin's deception and liberals propaganda
>which writer had the most accurate description of the term?
The anarchist writers.

>>9795955
It means socialism, which means democracy, which means anarchism, which means egalitarianism.

>>9796040
Might as well call the territory ruled by the Baron von Ungern-Sternberg during the Russian Civil War the Mongol Empire.

>>9769400

If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/.

You get my report.

Communism = jews.

>>9796163
You = Unlit
You = Asleep
You = blind
You = a sheep

Some Jews fight the power of the banker overlords, others can be the bankers. Yet you blame them both for your problems on religious grounds. Fascists are capitalist extremists, yet are you a Jesus freak too? He didn't seem to like money all that much.

>>9796216
we already live under communism, what is affirmative action but enforced equality of result?

>>9796216
You are clearly uneducated about jews and don't understand them in the slightest, which is why you're projecting white behavior onto a tribe of middle eastern semites. Keep a distance from things you don't understand until you're willing to learn about them, doing otherwise only makes you look foolish, toots.

>>9796355
You don't know what communism is.
So this isn't it, okay? That is a mixed economy with faux democracy. The actual left, communism for some, anarchism for others, is about an absence of state/corporate force.

>>9796356
There are also white revolutionaries and white bankers. Duh. Is this a joke post?

>>9796216
>Fascists are capitalist extremists
ah, yes, capitalists love the nationalization of industry

>>9796395
>Ah, yes regular Muslims love jihadists.

>>9796382
You are talking about a people known as "the tribe" -- they don't think individually like Europeans do, and the world is not comprised of free spirits who think individually like Europeans do, it's comprised of tribes. And communism is a jewish tribal ideology, duh. Stay out of the intellectual stuff, hun, it's not for you.

>>9795955

>>9796412
So only the euro-anglo-sphere can achieve anarchism ala Stirner, while the rest of the world will only be able to achieve communism (not Marxist-Leninism)
(You forget the little ants known as Christians, but I suppose you have an excuse)

You're anti-semitism is somehow irrelevant in the end result of global freedom. Help end capitalism, let the state whiter away. Go free

>>9796395
Hitler's Germany actually privatised industries during the great depression.

>>9796433
> You're anti-semitism is somehow irrelevant in the end result of global freedom.
You live in a fantasy world and don't have the first clue about what's going on in reality. Most of this stems from you being a female who thinks she has any business talking about the intellectual subjects of men. Please, men do not find this attractive, and it is a terribly unappealing trait in a woman.

>>9796407
That only works if you presume the natural and inherent evolution of the Corporation is to become a State.
And if you believe that, You're a fucking retard.

>>9795955
relevant

>>9796433
>You're
Crap.

>>9796473
No, I'm describing something that may actually never happen, and only because capitalism is ramming us into an early grave.
The rest of your post is too cartoonishly stupid to consider.

>>9796488
Did you link the right post?
The Corporate state exists. If you believe it doesn't you're a valuable stooge for them. Their model citizen

>>9796494
How can you call something stupid when you are advancing the notion "capitalism" is some machine with a mind of its own that is killing people? This is a prime example of my point about how you as a female should not be inserting yourself into intellectual conversations like this. Who do you think is in control of the institutions that shape and define capitalism? Jews, sweetheart.

Keep to the Harry Potter threads, please, you may actually have something to contribute in those.

>>9796532
See? Cartoon. Can't even counter the basics of the argument, so instead keeps up the stereotypical insults.
You're disingenuous. Buzz off.

>>9796532
capitalism is what cyberneticians would call a runaway process, a process that has escaped human control. 'Libertarians' think of capitalism as a jeffersonian artisan utopia of independent entrepreneurs that has been corrupted by big government, ignoring the transformations undergone by productive processes since the 18th century. Modern Capitalism is a global system ruled by a logic of its own, it leads to absurdities such as the third world debt crisis, the unsustainable eternal growth imperative and ecological catastrophe.

>"capitalism" is some machine with a mind of its own that is killing people
>mfw

>>9796548
What argument? The argument that some phantom system with a mind of its own is killing people, instead of the over-representation of middle easterners in charge of shaping its parameters? You are embarrassing yourself because you are a girl pretending to have the intellectual faculties of a man. Find a nice white man and have some white babies, these types of conversations are not for you.

>>9796559
>Modern Capitalism is a global system ruled by a logic of its own, it leads to absurdities such as the third world debt crisis, the unsustainable eternal growth imperative and ecological catastrophe.

Do you know how silly this sounds? People make these decisions, and systems are reflections of the people in charge of them. You will be forever out of touch if you continue to blame abstract systems instead of the people in control of them. This is about people.

If you're not a communist you're a piece of shit and deserve the wall.

If you steadfastly believe in American propaganda against communism you deserve the wall.

Kulaks deserve to be shot into the sun.

>>9796592
you're the idealist blaming abstractions if you think magically free agents simply "making decisions" are the motive force in world-economy and not the material conditions of production and exchange

>>9796592
The economy has to keep growing constantly at an ever faster rate in order to cover the payment of interest. This is a feature inherent to the capitalist system itself, something that lies outside of our control. 'libertarians' equivocate human freedom with the freedom of capital. Nobody is truly free under capitalism.

>>9796627
Seriously, stop and listen to yourself. Magically free agents? These are rich and powerful people with agendas, who are disproportionately jewish -- *they* are the "motive force." They are who shape and advance the system you ignorantly believe is some phantom machine making decisions all by itself. Snap out of it, guy.

>>9796649
>The economy has to keep growing constantly at an ever faster rate in order to cover the payment of interest.
Yeah, and who is collecting that interest?

>>9796650
>some phantom machine making decisions all by itself
this is your understanding of rich and powerful jews

>>9796592
So you assign the wealthy the lions share of the blame. Fine. I don't care. The system itself is bad and will continue to be bad no matter who controls it.

Change the system, drop capitalism, and a generation later we'll have less ass holes, less of that "human nature" people like to cite. There'll be a new "human nature"

>>9796660
We have the Internet now ... we can see who is running various arms of the "system" low-information people like yourself mistakenly try to blame because you're afraid to seek the real answers.

>wat communism
not-Empire

>how can into
first, acquire cordless drill
next, run nice hot shower
finally,

>>9796666
>The system itself is bad and will continue to be bad no matter who controls it.
This is just not true, because people are different. If different people were in charge there would be different results ... because the problem isn't the system, it's the jews who are in charge of the system and using it in their tribal interests.

>>9796666
Checking.
>implying precapitalism was good
>implying postcapitalism will be good
>implying life is not suffering
Etc.

>>9796690
the joint stock corporation is a form explicitly designed to eliminate any notion of personal responsibility. A CEO is accountable to the stockholders, he is legally obliged to maximise stock value and liable to face legal consequences if he were to neglect these responsibilities for moral reasons.

>>9796690
Capitalism, as different as it can get with socialist programs sprinkled over it, is always the same. Always encourages the same results and that is because it is corruption itself.
Like trying to clean coal. You have coal or you have washed it away.
>It's the Jews
I still think you're joking. If this is sincerity, you're a first rate retard.

>>9796691
Primitive capitalism wasn't good either. Post capitalism could be great. The motivation of capitalism is competition and fear (because losing means death) Post capitalism's motivation ought to be about sharing, cooperation, caring. The suffering would ease off considerably.

>>9796703
Yeah, and do you know what group is over-represented as shareholders of the companies you probably think are the most egregious exploiters of your capitalist boogeyman system? You don't understand this stuff because you aren't looking at the source.

>>9796721
>Capitalism, as different as it can get with socialist programs sprinkled over it, is always the same.
Except it's not and never has been. That's a very stupid statement. It's not the same in China as it is in Salvador, and it wasn't the same when WASPs were in control as it is now that jews are.

Isn't there some nice man in your life you should be pleasing instead of pretending to be a man on the internet? This isn't your wheelhouse, hun.

>>9796754
As different as you think it is when brown people do it etc. it's still essentially the same. And awful. Just like your act.

>>9796735
>he source.
The wealthy

>>9796703
Your posts a great btw.

>>9796770
>it's still essentially the same
China and El Salvador are essentially the same?

>The wealthy
Who are disproportionately, huh, surprise! Jewish. Look at the Forbes list, toots. Are we starting to learn here yet? Come on, sweety, you're almost there...

>>9795955

>>9796802
>he hasn't read Marx's criticisms of egalitarianism

>>9796797
>Chian: Yuan/Renminbi
>El Salvador: Colone

>The wealthy are disproportionately Jewish
Irrelevant. You want whites, or your idea of whites to control all the money, I want no one to hold money and keep us in a class system of poverty, war and certain ecological doom.

>>9796802
Aww. What a cute tankie edition. Irrelevant. They're just state authoritarian capitalists too. Not even communism.

>>9796837
>Irrelevant. You want whites, or your idea of whites to control all the money
It is in no way irrelevant that a tribe of outsiders controls the money in white countries, and that's precisely what I want to change -- because that's the main problem ... not "the system" as interpreted by green-haired girls pretending to be boys on the internet.

>>9796837
It's not real communism cause i say so meme
>>9796817
>Basing your whole life on the writing of a neet

>>9796837

>I want no one to hold money and keep us in a class system of poverty, war and certain ecological doom.

And how exactly are you going to bring that about?

>>9795955
An Ideology can't be found in the dictionary.

>>9796850
Capitalism is corruption itself, so it is the problem.

>>9796855
It's not really the commune, no. I know because of my learning. Books, anon. Dangerous thing. You discover the truth in them.
Go back to your yiff porn lest the FBI finds you here.

>>9796865
I can't do it alone. I think it's more likely we're going to go extinct in this century. Can't blame a woman from trying though.
Where are the heroes? All I see are Nazis cosplayers

>>9796895
the furies are fully on board with communism m8 these are the people attracted to your ideas weak sexual degenerates

>>9796855
>marx was a neet
when will this meme end.

>>9796895

>I can't do it alone.

Can't do what alone?

If you had the whole world behind you, then what would to do to bring the intimated state of the world about?

>>9796910
the truth never ends my dude

>>9796900
>>9796855

>>9796895
>Capitalism is corruption itself, so it is the problem.
Corruption is corruption itself, and some groups of people are more corrupt than others; just like capitalism is different when different groups of people are in charge of the institutions that advance it.

You will never understand the underlying factors of your reality if you cannot understand that the system is only a reflection of the people in charge of it, and our current system is bad because jews are in charge of it and are using it against white people because they hate us.

>>9796942
>Venezuela
>I believe anything the CIA tells me.

Not to defend the Chavistas but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig6yFP8HjVQ

>>9796968
>muh cia is the only reason communism fails meme

>>9796942

Marx was a journalist. He also wrote books. He wasn't a NEET.

Also,

>state capitalism (along with lul oil money) is socialism

You know what else is socialist? Pensions. I guess when America falls they'll blame socialism too.

>>9796085
Colonel Gaddafi's Peoples Arab Jamahiriya before the NWO banking cartel pulled the plug on them

>>9796961
>Corruption is corruption itself
Thas a funny way to spell capitalism. What is corruption, what corrupts? Monetary gain...
It's stupid to think melanin or nose shape determines anything.
If you counter with "it's a cultural thing" Well, than! Nothing will change the culture more than jettisoning the sick motivational device of capitalism for a sharing compassionate one.

>>9796977
>muh cia is the only reason [social democracy] fails meme
Somehow it's allowed to work in the Nordic countries. It's not the skin doing it. It's the CIA's skin.

>>9796997
>It's stupid to think melanin or nose shape determines anything.
Not in the slightest. People evolved differently and in different environments for thousands of years. They are not the same, nor is the fruit of their society -- including political and economic endeavors.

You think you can blame this abstract system for everything while ignoring human difference. Can you really not comprehend how stupid that is? You are thinking like a simpleton. There is no reasoning behind your point of view, it's merely a safe thing for you to blame in a society that has severe penalties for denying racial egalitarianism.

>>9796979
>Marx was a journalist
lol how about that time he impregnated the maid and left her and the child to starve how very communist of him
he was subsides by someone who owned a factories money he was as neet as it got for his time
>>9796979
muh commies have a monopoly on social programs could you be anymore of a brainlet
>>9796997
>Somehow it's allowed to work in the Nordic countries
ah yes Sweden is so great now it's the rape capital of Europe and has regular grenade attacks
https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2016-08-07/sa-latt-kan-man-kopa-en-handgranat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden

>>9797017
>People evolved differently and in different environments for thousands of years.
HAHAHAH Book for you.

>>9797042
Are you trying to say people didn't evolve in different environments for thousands of years

At least /lefty/pol threads are a good containment zone for that obnoxious and annoying butterfly poster.

>>9797078
Being in separate gene pools isn't evolution. You have cultural differences with The Others. Shut up and read more.

>>9797042
i thought you fucking loved science why do you deny evolution

>>9797092
This is a very ignorant statement. The genetic differences between different groups of people are enormous, not to mention the foundation of culture.

The levels of idiocy in these last two posts is seriously jaw dropping. Holy shit.

This place used to have some smart people. But all must have discouraged them all too much.

>>9796997
Money is a medium of exchange and storage of value. It can't corrupt anything.

Power corrupts, money as a medium and storage of value can bring power, but it's subordinate to it, not above. Since communism is about absolute political power, no political system can be as corrupt as it.

>b-but muh anarcho-communist, muh Rosa, muh Makhno

If you still think political power correlates to the formal structure of the state, then you're still in entry-level politics and should not be allowed to discuss with the grow-ups

>>9797157
>Everyone else is an idiot and I am such an epic genius.
No wonder everyone can't stand butters.

>>9797230
>and storage of value
Except it isn't. Money has no value. It's pretend.
Money funds power. But the moment someone questions this farce, this game, the knives come out. Force is all too real obviously.

>>9797236
You don't know how evolution works. Cultures evolve over that amount of time, but simply sectioning off a group isn't evolution in action. You and the other poster are demonstrably idiots. No one likes /pol/, /r9k/ either.

>>9795955
A constant proletariat revolution and reformation, without a clear end in sight.

>>9797157
You need to take a look in the mirror, honey. You spent your time itt blaming an abstract system for the world's problems while denying the people involved at the highest levels of that system -- disproportionately tribal jews who wouldn't possibly act in their own ethnic interests, who you refer to merely as "the wealthy" -- could have any effect on the way its policies are implemented. Calling other people idiots when you're advancing such an incongruous and silly point of view will not increase your standing among the men you believe you are equal to in intellectual capacity, which, similar to your opinions generally, is glaringly untrue.

>>9797266
Not the same poster so not sure who you are replying to there buddy. I would take all of /pol/ if it meant ridding this board of your retarded leftist presence.

>>9797266
If money was above power, I wouldn't need to give the content of my wallet to the street kid who pointed a gun at me.

I had more money than him, and yet had to obey his demands. How does that work?

You can't answer this question because you have never read a single book outside the scope of the ideology you decided to follow at 13 years of age.

>>9797282
Money is the power your aggressor is answering to.

>>9797282
>How does that work?
>the knives come out. Force is all too real obviously.

I've cleverly included the answer to your question before you even asked it.
Damn, some dumb people around here.

>>9797350
For all you know the aggressor is responding to his chimp impulses.

>>9797353
You are one of dumb ones, sorry to break it to you.

>>9797365
actually they have been consistently correct in this thread

>>9797350
More likely it's crack cocaine.

>>9797353
You've said it in other context. But what should I expect? Discussing with a communist is already pointless, since they only hold loyalty to the revolutionary idea and will distort anything in order to further their political objectives, a communist women is even worse.

>>9797386

>>9797386

You have to be a special type of stupid to be a goy and a communist these days. All communism was was a jewish ideology to manipulate and use the lower classes against the European aristocracy so jews could take power. That's why nearly the entire bolshevik government, including the guy who pulled the trigger on the tsar, was jewish. Oh ... what, you thought it was something real? Hah! Silly goyim. We have the same thing now in the form of racial communism, where jews are using non-whites to displace and replace and attack whites. This is part of the jewish ethnic strategy, using the bottom against the top. If you are a white person who considers yourself a communist, you should seriously reevaluate your life and your intellectual path.

>>9797434
Also, if you notice, there were no more communist revolutions in white countries after the creation of israel, all the communists suddenly became nationalists once they had their own land to be nationalist about

>>9797442
Mmm, jews became nationalists? For Israel, yeah, but the communist agitation jews engaged in post-1950s simply morphed into liberalism. Jews are never nationalistic in favor of their host nation, they define themselves against it and create international systems like communism and globalism to promote their interests over the nation state and the national people they live among, who they hate and are constantly trying to destroy out of genetic and in-group cultural psychopathy.

>>9797390
>>9796412

Is your life bettered by dismissing all ideas by leftists and women?

Certainly there is a draw to blame the evils of the world on a tribal conspiracy, that your group are those with free will and and the rest can safely be dehumanized (or if not subhuman, at least inhuman and the enemy) but where does that get you?
Fascism has had it's day in the sun and carries such a stigma now that, regardless of what you see in it, it will not be tolerated by the public

I hope that you find a better path than some reactionary americanized Christianity - for your own sake and for /lit/

>>9797648
Why people think anticommunists have to be Americans or Christians?

>>9797476
Are you sure it's psychopathy and not an aversion to nationalism on the basis that they're a minority group and don't want to get genocided?

>>9797648
What conspiracy? Do you see this thing in front of your eyes, the internet? It magically allows you to see who is controlling what and what their ethnic background is, so dismissing something as a "conspiracy" simply because you don't personally understand it or are unwilling to do your own research on it is no one's fault but your own. Please try to keep your opinion on the matter to yourself until you are willing to do that. And here's some additional advice: pretending 'fascism,' an Italian ideology from the early 20th century, is relevant, let alone a potential threat, makes you look very foolish and uninformed.

>>9797682
Well, jewish psychopathy runs deep but you're right that one of the main reasons jews fear nationalism and beat it into the heads of naive people like this, >>9797648, that they should also fear it, is indeed because a cohesive group of people cognizant of their long-term interests is a major threat to jewish power. That's also why they promote mass immigration into our countries, because it protects their bad behavior against the nation and its people from being exposed.

>>9797684
Yeah everyone of the same ethnicity are all in on a conspiracy

>>9797476
Or maybe because the facilitation of international trade is what drives the development of civilization.

>>9797713
Again, there's no conspiracy; there is you being ignorant of the topic at hand. That's not to say that people who are literally 4th cousins of one another don't conspire, because they do, but I'll leave the actual definition of "conspiracy" aside for now.

>>9797718
Mmm, no, white people create civilization because white people are the only people smart enough and meritocratic enough to create functional institutions.

>>9797737
No, white people 'create' civilizations because they're the main race that stocks their institutions full of Jews who allow the host nation to flourish.

>>9797648
I embrace fascism post-ironically. My very existence as a white aryan national socialist is an act of Rebellion against a world of corruption and lies. I have meme'd myself into believing Hitler was but a prefiguration of Kalki, he who shall bring an end to the Kali Yuga, he who shall show no Mercy to the enemies of light.

>>9797741
Far from it, jews have never built anything and are a race that has been wandering the earth destroying civilizations for thousands of years. Like their semitic cousins blowing up old monuments in the middle east, jews can only destroy.

>>9797763
Well they did a pretty bad job of destroying Europe by basically ensuring its foundation as Christendom at the hands of Charlemagne.

>>9797678
mostly your fixation with jews
the most common negative reaction to communism often leads to a deification of traditional western morality, at the heart of which they find Christianity (since much of the rest is disregarded for being too 'liberal')

>>9797737
What would you say is the main goal of your anticom prowhite society?
/pol/ often claims it's the preservation of institutions and traditional culture (which is generally christian and both responsible for much of what they fight against and also not (in my view) worth preserving so actively) but really just comes off as white guys who can't compete in the free market for the pussy and have resorted to supporting affirmative action (get rid of all the outgroup) so they can finally fug QTs

>>9797759
thats fucking stupid

>>9796017
A very interesting and well written post; however, I don't agree with it.
>The words of communists about what communism is and how should it work are about as meaningless as the words of Robert Filmer about how the divine rights of kings should work. You don't look for that, you look for the actual actions of kings who claimed divine right to rule like Louis XIV.
No, if a philosophy was applied differently than how it is specified, then it's no longer the specified philosophy; it would have been twisted to serve a specific need; in many political cases, the needs of a person or a group of people.
Sometimes philosophies are changed when applied in the real world for non-malicious reasons; instead, it could happen that the philosophy was too theoretical and hardly applicable in the real world, so it had to be changed; however, even in that case, the changed philosophy has deviated from the original ideas, and should therefore no longer be considered the same philosophy as before.

>>9797785
>What would you say is the main goal of your anticom prowhite society?
To preserve white people and European culture, which is not necessarily Christian at all. I oppose Christianity because it's a jewish ideology that weakened Europeans and made for an easy transition into liberalism. Otherwise, I don't agree with your analysis. White countries are not free marketplaces for everybody; they are our countries, and we must protect them by removing the main entity destroying them: the jew.

>>9797799
Your argument is the most common response to any discussion of communism, in fact 'a good idea in theory but not applicable in the real world' has become a bit of a meme in it's own right

>>9797804
What is the purpose of preserving an exclusively white and European culture aside from an obsession with a historical 'we wuz kings' worldview?
The technological and financial success (chosen as standards because they can be measured more easily than artistic or philosophical success) of Europe came largely from both the spread of global trade and appropriation of ideas discovered through these trades

What greatness does pre-christian german or irish tradition offer? huts and spears no more impressive than countless other tribal groups around the world. This is not a defense of Christianity, but a condemnation of pre-republic Europe.

>>9797804
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>>9797851
>What is the purpose of preserving an exclusively white and European culture
If you're asking a question like this, I don't know what to tell you. If you want to stick to scientific/technolological achievement instead of the arts, that's fine. White people have been responsible for 97% of that, and it won't exist without them, so there's your reason for preserving white culture. Why do you want to destroy white culture and why are you antagonistic against whites? That's the real question here, not why do white people want to preserve themselves; the answer to that is implicit. It's natural for any people to protect themselves.

>>9797876
>it won't exist without them

That's why we have Asians man

>>9797877
I've lived in east Asia and am very familiar with the cultures. They are ant people who rip nearly everything off from the west and are generally incapable of innovation, so no.

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established , an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

>>9797893
>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established , an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself
Someone has to adjust to reality, that's for sure.

>>9797876
Whatever system allows for the continuation of our species is admirable, but a conservative return to European society hardly fits that criteria

At least the commies managed to launch the first satellite and put the first man into space before their country imploded and white supremacists and have shown themselves willing to include the achievements of Jewish scientists when it suits them to do so

I'm antagonistic against Luddites, which is the mindset of much of the right and now forms a coalition with

>>9797790
all ideologies are equally absurd. Everyone has to make the leap of faith somewhere. I choose to make it here and now. I've seen through the banalities of liberalism and i yearn for more.

>>9797910
Are you white or what are you if you're not?

>a conservative return to European society
These words you use don't mean what you think they do. There is no "return," there is simply a natural way European societies, or any for that matter, are structured and always have been; jews have merely muddied that and made people like yourself believe there's something called "progress" which requires inverting all those norms and doing the opposite, even though that is precisely what has led to the invasions and the destruction of our nations. The jewish left's idea of progress is an illusion veiled in utopianism, it's not real.

>At least the commies managed to launch the first satellite
No, white people launched the first satellite. You're never going to get this if you think white people are reflections of whatever jewish ideology they've been put under the spell of (communism, Christianity, or liberalism). They're still just white people.

>I'm antagonistic against Luddites, which is the mindset of much of the right and now forms a coalition with
I mean, I don't know where you're getting opinions like this, but it's just not true.

Bamp

>>9795955
People confuse Socialism and the Leninist Dictatorship of the Proletariat with Communism.

>>9796395
Capitalists love private property and trade which is all capitalism entails.

>>9796997
>Somehow it's allowed to work in the Nordic countries. It's not the skin doing it. It's the CIA's skin.

https://fee.org/articles/the-myth-of-scandinavian-socialism/
>In the Scandinavian countries, like all other developed nations, the means of production are primarily owned by private individuals, not the community or the government, and resources are allocated to their respective uses by the market, not government or community planning.
>While it is true that the Scandinavian countries provide things like a generous social safety net and universal healthcare, an extensive welfare state is not the same thing as socialism. What Sanders and his supporters confuse as socialism is actually social democracy, a system in which the government aims to promote the public welfare through heavy taxation and spending, within the framework of a capitalist economy. This is what the Scandinavians practice.
There is no Nordic socialism

>>9800368
It's only socialist in the sense that it's a welfare state that seemed like a paradise until the jewish-led invasion began. Many of the oligarchs in control of Sweden are, and for a long time have been, jewish -- like the family below that owns most of Sweden's media and routinely tells the high-trust, highly moral Swedes they are evil nazis if they don't want to accept unlimited Somalians into their country.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnier_family

Then there's the wench in pic related doing the same from the NGO side. These jews need to be removed immediately, they are very sick and destructive people.

>>9795955
A stateless, classless, society in which the means of production are collectively owned. Why is this so hard to understand?

>>9796395
That's not something that fascists typically do.

So communism is Jewish? That's interesting.

>>9796440
This. But Note that high status nsdap members were put in place. The firms all acted to the will of the state.

>>9801460
fanfic

>>9796066
mein n word

>>9802218
No, it's a worker's movement.