/lit/ - Literature

>>9364889
They suck tho

>read the shit beats
speedfreak pls go

>>9364889
The Beats were one of the most establishment cultures in all of contemporary literary history. Every person you mentioned in your post was a member of one of the most elite social institutions on the planet (Columbia University), every person in your post had the vociferous backing of academia and establishment tastemakers like The New York Times, every person in your post subscribed to a Judeo-Christian morality despite a superficial contrarianism, and every person in your post held progressive political beliefs.

The fact that they were also pedophiles with crabs, drug problems and a predilection for lusty Negro rhythms makes them part of mainstream culture, not against it.

>>9365003
They were nonetheless, the defining beats

>>9365074
>ginsberg
>burroughs
>vociferous backing of academia and establishment tastemakers like The New York Times

fucking kek

Ginsberg was the only good one, and maybe from about 20 poems - the rest were lame rehashes of his highs.

Kerouac and Burroughs were all about vomiting text on a page.

>>9364889

The Beats wished they could be Jean Genet.

>>9364889
>letov
>limonov
>dugin
what was the most artistic and creative counter-culture and why was it the national bolsheviks?
Also why has no other subsequent counter-culture produced anything on par with them?

>>9365427
Literally neo-nazi tier

>>9365443
National Bolshevism is for Everyone

>>9365088
>defining beats
so were songs with "face down ass up" as the sole lyrics the second time speed came round, it doesn't mean you should listen to 2 live crew. get off the meth.