/lit/ - Literature

I tend to learn right wing myself but your threads are bad, because you are not talking about any specific books or anything. You're obviously just trying to start some kind of shitstorm

>>9339729
Spencer is a Godless homosexual and all the literature surrounding him is meme tier.

>>9339736
>pointing out fact
>starting shitstorm

>>9339729
Marxist threads tend to inspire some degree of actual debate/discussion. "right wing lit" threads just devolve into one or two retarded frogposters sperging out for no reason

I agree with >>9339736, maybe you should contribute with some books and why should we read them.
Also, the right-wing-vs.-marxism debate isn't real.

>>9339769
The real problem is that there is no respect for right wing authors here.

>>9339781
Maybe, but there's a lack of respect for many kinds of authors here, propagandists of poor prose being one of them. .

>>9339781

Because right wing authors tend to espouse pseudo-scientific claims about race, and use it to justify racism, when science agrees that race is not a real thing. So it's hard to respect them when they don't even take scientific reality into account

>>9339729
>saging a thread to death
lel. How does that even work

>>9339826
>pseudo-scientific
What do you mean?
>race is not a real thing
Does that mean racism isn't real?

>>9339729
Respect is earned. Now think on that.

Unfortunately OP, liberals are just so childlike that they can't see a Thoughtful discussion without screaming "MUH FEELZ!!1!" and flinging shit soaked with their salty tears.

>>9339866
Ironically posts like this is why every right wing lit threads suck so bad

Majority of the time those threads are just posting stormfront created charts and things of that sort. Seldom do they discuss lit but instead politics that of which isn't lit related. Note nothing is wrong with that, but there is a board for it already.

>>9339872
>Be completely immature
>Get called out for your behavior
>Start complaining about the ""rudeness"" of others
Sorry for startling you, you special snowflake.

>>9339826
>Because right wing authors tend to espouse pseudo-scientific claims about race, and use it to justify racism
yes
>when science agrees that race is not a real thing
no

>>9339884
There's a dose of irony in every post you make isn't there?

>>9339883
And exactly, what's wrong with stormfront charts?
Don't you think that statistics are valid independently if they come from one place or another?

>>9339729
If you want to be taken seriously, start by posting some serious intellectuals and not a fucking pseud like Richard Spencer.

>>9339885
>tfw there is no race gene

"right wing" posters would rather talk about e-celebs and how bad librulz are

>>9339826
>pseudo-scientific claims about race
If I didn't know people were this dumb, I'd assume this is a bait post.

>>9339896
Note I said nothing was wrong with that, but this isn't the place to discuss them there is already a board for this...

>>9339893
Irony is the only way to deal with (((you))) dipshits.

>>9339826
If you're saying there are no inborn differences between populations of humans, then you're the one who isn't taking scientific reality into account.

Right-wing threads become little more than shitboxes for the bashing of Arabs/Blacks and women, followed by autistic crying. Until your threads allow for serious discussion and the sharing of literature, your threads will never be taken seriously.

>>9339913
You implied it was wrong. If you truly believed that it wasn't wrong, you would have not posted it, faggot.

>>9339826
>when science agrees that race is not a real thing

>>9339769
>Also, the right-wing-vs.-marxism debate isn't real.

It IS real because Marxists believe that class consciousness should override ethnic/cultural nationalism, while right-wingers tend to believe the opposite.

>>9339901
>>9339826
>when science agrees that race is not a real thing
Really activated my almonds

>>9339927
>cries in a right wing lit thread about crying
Wow... so this... is the power... of /leftypol/

The threads discussing Land and Moldbug are generally pretty good, but then again they're not your typical /pol/-tier right wingers.

>>9339918
Notice the general quality of the posts by this Anon. This is a large part of why those threads usually turn into a shit flinging contest.

>>9339800
>propagandists of poor prose being one of them.

care to elaborate on this?

>>9339934
Facts are social constructs, shitlord.

>>9339826
>when science agrees that race is not a real thing
nigga is you telling me we's be white niggas

>>9339927
I wonder how many times you've let your mom/sister/gf get raped by gangs of "multicuralism".

>>9339947
No, facts are intellectual terrorism.

>>9339927

Racial/sexual realism IS serious discussion, but it's considered too taboo for modern academia so it is always considered fringe and crazy

>>9339929
I fail to understand your logic. I clearly stated there was nothing wrong with posting them, but I also acknowledged you shouldn't post it discuss them here when there is a board for it.

>>9339955
The tide is turning. A lot of evolutionary psychologists are beginning to be taken more seriously.

>>9339939
moldbug is literally a videogame villain

>>9339942
Why should waste my precious time writing long paragraphs about why you are fundamentally wrong, when I can just point out in a clear and concise sentence the obvious fact that you are an indoctrinated manchild?

>>9339960
Um, not really hunny.

>>9339729
Threads like this are not helping.

>>9339967
He meant on the internet, specifically on /pol/ and reddit.

>>9339972
Um...

>>9339966
Yea no I'm done here. Keep banning them mother fuckers.

>>9339957
Oh, so you're one of those persons that believes that people should keep their ideologies to themselves?
Why should someone that knows for certain that he has the truth not share it with others?

>>9339844
>>9339908
>>9339932

Show me a single peer-reviewed scientific article, reliably sourced, that actually proves to have a classification on different races.

>>9339981
You mean by the (((scientists)))?

>>9339749
>come to a literature board
>"NIGGERS ARE DUMB!!!!!"
wtf why do the commies hate facts

Tbf any thread that doesn't deal with left-wing literature is a right-wing thread.

The views of absolutely every human who walked this earth before 1950 would now be considered as the fringe of the fringe, the most extreme, radical and inhuman form of right ever put forward by the most crazed fanatics of our times ; if we take an example of the first generation of truly "leftist" individuals, I mean a man like Voltaire, one quick look at his works and deeds would quickly inform us that such an individual, walking amongst us, would now appear like a nazi, or worse ; and anyone who lived before this first generation of leftist individuals would be without hesitation committed to the nearest asylum for daring to speak truths too violent, truths too true.

It is a shame that the works of the Left restrain themselves by holding on to this barbarous past ; Burn it all, I say ; and roll with the left. Is this not what is being attempted today, in our universities, by those who relentlessly ask for a more diverse, a less /white/ canon?

I say : Happy, those who long for eternal sleep, and long to burn the past ; for the future will burn them too, and they too shall have sleep !

>>9339985
how convient

>>9339981
>implying that all your opinions are drawn from peer-reviewed scientific articles

Also, lol ((( experts ))).

>>9339981
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15625622

>>9339933
What an awful way for a debate to exist.

However, I think race and culture are more real than class will ever be.

>>9339826
>science agrees that race is not a real thing
Oh, but it is a real thing

>>9339981
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15508000
>We review the results of genetic analyses that show that human genetic variation is geographically structured, in accord with historical patterns of gene flow and genetic drift.

>>9339989
>Cause most of the crime despite being a minority
>Have lower IQ even when accounting for wealth, education and culture.
Excuse me princess for not conforming to your idiotic world view!

>>9340004
>>9340010
Great, you made your point
Now, where does actual literature come into all of this ?

There's a right wing lit thread almost every other day here. There are right wing recs and charts and sometimes there are even proper discussions on those rare occasions when it's someone actually interested and not just another retarded /pol/ teenager trying to kill time through flamewars and autistic contrarian shitposting.

>>9340023
I made this thread with the purpose of discussing it; you are the one shitposting and derailing it. What the fuck is your problem?

>>9340023
>Great, you made your point
>Now,

Stop right there.

> At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination.

> The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

>>9340032
>another retarded /pol/ teenager
Because obviously all of you marxists """intellectuals""" are full grown mature manly men, aren't you?

>>9340017
>he still dont get in
nigga u dumb

>>9340036
What is it ?
There never was a single book or author mentioned, you started your thread with an open-question that was quickly answered, and then your army of brave meme-scientists came at full force with their redpills(tm)
The answer why nobody takes you seriously is this thread itself. You're a bunch of self-righteous retards, worse than any anarcho-queer commie

>>9340050
>You're a bunch of self-righteous retards, worse than any anarcho-queer commie
Nice ad hominem you've got here, you intellectual genius!

>>9339980
Listen, there is nothing wrong with discussing politics in any manner, however this is a board where we discuss literature. It should stay this way if you want to post political charts and shit, do it on the board designed for said usage. This is elementary.

>>9339946
There are millions of books on politics and politics discussion that are just propaganda. There are even works of literature that are openly propagandistic.
But the difference between literature and propaganda according to /lit/ is the aesthetic quality of the texts. Right-wing propaganda has incredibly dull prose, so don't expect anyone here take it as 'serious' literature.

cf. with Orwell, for example. He is a self-admitted anarcho-syndicalist propagandist, but he's also an extraordinary storyteller, so he is generally well-regarded here, though I think his political compromise remains unclear here.

>>9340042
Please read this >>9340050
This is neither /sci/ nor /pol/
I'm asking again, now that you made your point, what does any of this have to do with literature ?

>>9340050
How old are you dude? Be honest

>marxist thread
>supporters and opponents actually arguing and discussing at least somewhat logically and with decency

>"right wing" thread
>it's a bunch of underage cretins shitposting (((pol)))-style

Gee, I wonder why the latter are unpopular.

>>9340056
You haven't answered my question:
Why should someone that knows for certain that he has the truth not share it with others in any place and time?

>>9340010

That doesn't mean that humans can be classified into clean races

>Dicky Spencer is the OP image
OP is the answer to his own question.

>>9340063
>what does any of this have to do with literature ?
Not who you're responding to, but hell, you're a fucking piece of shit. You were the first to say right-wing literature includes "pseudo-scientific claims about race" and now that you've been proven wrong on the fact that race indeed exists, you try to backpedal, saying "i-it d-doesn't have any thing to do with literature!"

What the fuck do you even read ? I'd fucking break your face, nigga. You can't understand shit if you're a leftist. Our literature, the works of the centuries, it wasn't written for life-denying little cunts like you, for shit-spouting always-protesting little mediocre fucks. Read Homer you bitch, it might cure you of your mediocrity.

>>9340045
No, absolutely not. But they mostly maintain a basic level of discussion, while right wing threads almost inevitably get shit up by NIGGER NIGGER AIDS GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NAO MERCHANT.JPG children, even if there are sane interesting conservative posters in them.

>>9340023
A lot of left-wing literature and philosophy is grounded in the assumption that race is not a real thing and that there are no inborn behavioral or cognitive differences between human populations. If you do believe that those inborn differences exist, then you differ from the mainstream left on a very fundamental level. Unfortunately there's been a theoretical vacuum on the right for quite some time and it's currently being filled by /pol/-tier thinkers.

>>9340070
Because this literally isn't the place to discuss your "truth" pertaining to that subject.

>>9340084
This is /fitlit/ speaking, I swear I'll fucking smash your teeth in you little leftist cunt.

>>9340093
>don't talk about literature I disagree with on the literature board
Grow up

>>9340080
You can tell where their ancestors came from.

>>9339826
Not every right wing person was a racial supremacist and not every left wing person was anti-racist. Right vs. left is about capitalism vs. marxism.

>>9340103
For example you can tell to a high degree of certainty how much of their genetic admixture originated from the area detailed in this link.
https://hbdchick.wordpress.com/2014/03/10/big-summary-post-on-the-hajnal-line/

>>9340102
>talk about literature
>whole thread is retarded /pol/ bickering
WILL SOMEONE FINALLY BRING UP ANY RIGHT WING BOOKS THEY WANT TO DISCUSS

>>9340063
Still >>9340084 here.

I bet you're a chubby, smelly motherfucker. Get the fuck out of here.
This is Chad nationalism and you've already lost.

>>9340110
Marxism explicitly condemns racism you utter moron

>>9340089
>they mostly maintain a basic level of discussion
Yeah, you are certainly proving that right now by treating my opinion with the respect you want from us, you fucking lefty.

>>9340114
No because /lit/ is an Alt Right colony now (thanks #FrogTwitter) and the Alt Right can only drop names, not read.

>>9340042
That's probably my favorite part of the book

Fuuuck captchas today

>>9340114
Is anyone familiar with Thomas Carlyle? I recently picked Chartism and Sartor Resartus, but I haven't started reading them yet.

>>9340114
see >>9339992

>>9340121
>leftypol shits up a right wing lit thread
>wonders why OP talks about leftists shitting up right wing lit threads

>>9340102
No no no no no no....charts does not equate to literature. Neither does any sort of political propaganda web image. It's one thing to talk about a right wing book, its another to shit entire threads up with pol images.

>>9340063
>literally quoting from A BOOK which critiques exactly how you have behaved in this thread
>what does this have to do with literature

I'm really beginning to side with the more radical notion that leftism is a survival strategy for otherwise genetically deficient failures.

>>9340121
see >>9340084

Leftists cannot understand the canon. It wasn't made for them.

>>9340102
Haven't you read the thread asshole ? Literature is very much discussed when it is actually mentioned and argued for. So far it hasn't been the case, passing around pol memes isn't literature

>have a safe space
>never use it

>>>/pol/

>/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/

>go to /pol/


/pol/ should tolerate marxists so they can fuck off to /pol/ too.

>>9340118
I'm not on the left. What opinion are you talking about and in what way wrong did I treat it?

>>9340117
The economics of it. People like Kim Jong Il and Gregor Strasser are still far left whether you like it or not.

>>9340143
Agree. Marxist threads should be deleted.

>>9340145
If you believe in censorship you have been idoctrinated by cultural marxism.

>>9340110

By today's standards virtually everyone before 1950 would be considered a far-right fascist.

>>9340139
>Neoliberals are leftists
Hmm
>>9340133
>Muh leftypol boogeyman
/leftypol/ has been here for a long time. The Alt Right is only now colonizing it.

>>9340162
I think he's just saying that charts don't belong on /lit/ the same way sports discussions don't belong on /lit/.

>>9340162
I never in any way indicated I supported censorship. Your contrarian grasping at straws is hilarious.

>Rightfully mock SJWs for their safe-space, nobody-can-ever-be-criticized bullshit

>People tell you to fuck off and go back to /pol/ when you frogpost here
>STOP BULLYING THE RIGHT, LIBRUHLS, STOP BEING SO MEAN

Really kickstarts my walnuts

>>9340114
This.

You see >>9339729 ? Your threads are always the same. That's why they die.

Right wing views are generally based on the idea that race is real and has an effect on behavior, while left wing views are based on the idea that that all differences in behavior are generally based on class, and that racial division is a tool used by the upper classes to prevent class consciousness

I really don't think there is much common ground there. They see the world in fundamentally different ways. No matter which side you're on, you will probably see the other side as terribly misinformed and un-scientific.

>>9340198
That describes psychological theories of behavior, not political orientations. It's also painfully reductionist.

>>9340198
It's actually both, but lefties are too stupid to understand

>>9340204
I agree with your post, but aren't most left wing views at least partially grounded in historical materialism?

>>9340204

I've never seen a Marxist who believes that race determines behavior, though. In the modern world the belief in race as a real thing seems like a legitimate political divide.

If for instance, you tend to be against immigration or are resistant to demographic change, you will always be labeled as right wing no matter what your other views are.

>>9340224
How does historical materialism fail to acknowledge racial difference?

>>9339781
This is the response in this thread over and over again.

"Great right wing literature" are either patriotic or apologetic in nature like Kipling or Forester. Literature created in fascist states are propaganda driven trash.

Please cite the works that receive no respect.

>>9340237
>If for instance, you tend to be against immigration or are resistant to demographic change, you will always be labeled as right wing no matter what your other views are.
If you believe that the workers should seize the means of production and then control the inflow of immigrants into their socialist state, then I don't see how that makes you right-wing. Maybe it puts you on the right side of the left wing, but it's still left wing to demand a step toward workers' control of the means of production, no matter the race of those workers.

This is a very tired talking-point, by the way. I can't post on /his/ or /lit/ without seeing someone say "But if u menchun rays den ur rite wyng!" as if this is non-trivial or even universally true. Malcolm X was left-wing.

i beat you homos read tom clancy lmao

>>9340238
I'm not sure what you're getting at. I was simply saying that it seems to me like most left-wing views are influenced by historical materialism to a greater extent than right-wing views. I personally believe that a belief in historical materialism doesn't preclude a belief in racial difference.

>>9340237
Culture and environment determines behavior.
Heredity determines intellectual capacity.
Environment and teaching determines knowledge.

>>9339947
This but unironically

Read Neetchee

>>9340261
>I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Belief in a universal essence of humanity existing beyond the material stratum is idealism, according to a historically materialist interpretation of society and history.
>I personally believe that a belief in historical materialism doesn't preclude a belief in racial difference.
You're probably right. I see no reason to think that you're wrong.

why is it that closet communist and closet fascist moralizing asswipes can't help but try to hijack discussions between the slightly right leaning and the slightly left leaning?

discussions go from talking about protecting the property rights of THE individual by regulating large businesses vs how those same regulations can stifle smaller businesses and working class job opportunities OR how outsourcing jobs makes goods cheaper vs that same outsourcing making it harder for people in the working class to MUH ABUSE OF THE WORKER and MUH RACIAL DIVERSITY and MUH OPINION BEST and YUR OPINION A SHIT and MUH IDENTITY and YUR IDENTITY

also, Why Nations Fails is a great book that I never see get discussed

>>9340278
Pic related, you

>>9340278
Sorry, I don't care about what Turks have to say about democratic institutions.

All of you are haunted as fuck

>>9340257
> then I don't see how that makes you right-wing

Because most left-wingers won't accept anyone who believes that demographic change is actually a problem.

>>9339729
Because your brand of "right wing" politics has no literature.

I could quite easily start a successful thread on P. Hitchens or Roger Scruton, because they have actually produced literature.

>>9340278
So you're, what, an idiot who thinks that politics is just about having pleasant conversations that you want to have about things that don't annoy you?

>>9340278
>Why Nations Fails is a great book that I never see get discussed

This. Yes Africa is a hellhole, but why is Botswana not?

Yes Central America is full of savages, but why is Costa Rica not?

Yes Argentina has all the advantages of a world power. But why is it a shit show?

/pol/lacks and /leftypol/ are always obsessed with the macro when it is the micro that is so fascinating.

lol. the right tries to understand the left. leftism is tied to constructivism and resists reductionist reasoning. it's not that difference between genes doesn't exist, it's that there are too many factors in determining a persons outcome for genetics to be central or even emphasised.

>>9340287
If you turn 'demographic change' into the one thing that you care about and then attribute all demographic change to conspiratorial alliances between neoliberals, post-Soviet cabals, and international Jewry, then you're just an idiot and you should be excluded from all forms of politics, not only left-wing ones. Unfortunately a lot of these idiots are working together to shit up discussion on the Internet now and have been for quite some time now. Go back to your Alt Right circle-jerk if you want to pretend that 'saving the white race' is worth the effort if it means enriching the shrinking capitalist class at the expense of the growing masses of the unpropertied classes. Or at least don't look as retarded as you do right now.

>>9340292
>costa rica is not full of savages
>this is what the yank believes

>>9340280
>only edgy postitions are valid
>centrism means inaction
This site is 18+, please leave.

>>9339729
((Right Wing)) doesn't stay up because eventualy burgeoning facists enter the thread and ruin it by calling everyone a cuck or a shill and don't actual contribute to the discussion. Theres good right wing stuff out there, but the stuff that is pushed on this site is all neo-facist bollocks

>>9340303
see, we are talking about relativity. Yes there are subhumans there, demonstrably. But it is NOT el salvador. Why? They have the same shit culture and genetics. Clearly there are components outside race or class.

>>9340302

That was exactly my point, being concerned with demographic change at all will always get you labeled as right-wing, despite what any other opinion you may have.

>>9340322
That isn't what I was saying at all and it's completely trivial. Stop replying to me, you're clearly barely capable of reading. National Socialism is arguably left-wing, by the way.

>>9340295
>there are too many factors in determining a persons outcome for genetics to be central or even emphasised.
We don't know if that's the case, though.

>>9340328

I think you exist in your own universe. Literally no one considers National Socialism left wing

>>9340311
>the same culture and genetic
nigga u dumb

>>9340334
Maybe I'm thinking of National Bolshevism, the true hope of the workers

>>9340334
>Literally no one considers National Socialism left wing
Literally no one?

>>9340356
You a nobody lol

>>9339826
So its okay if i call you "nigger". Good.

>>9340332
yeah, we do. this is not controversial in behavioural biology.

>>9340302

The reason why demographic change is such a concern is because, among many reasons, left wing parties use immigrants as voting farms. They gain power by accepting millions of migrants, giving them citizenship, and have them vote against the natural citizenry. That is a clear abuse of democracy, yet it's never acknowledged because they claim it's all in the sake of tolerance.

>>9340110
i'm an anti-capitalist right winger

>>9340379
Listen, I've been browing this website for 9 years, I know this talking point very well. I'm telling you that there are other relevant issues that need to be considered when explaining the origins of demographic change. Explanations like the one you offer are explicit politicization of a phenomenon that has purely biological and purely environmental components on top of the actions of politically motivated agents.

>>9340368
If you get upset when people call you a nigger, you're on the wrong website, nigger

>>9339781
>respect
>for people that believe in ideologies and want to apply them to real life
Thanks for the laugh.

>>9340376
>this is not controversial in behavioural biology.
But that's not true.

>>9340448
yes it is.

>>9339729
Because the marxists get angry when people have different opinions and whatever horrible shit they do 'it's okay when we do it'.

>>9340295

But no scientists would argue that the behavior differences between common chips and bonobos cannot have genetics as a big factor. Its not like you can just raise a common chimp in a bonobo tribe and have it act exactly the same; you could try to repeat that many times but you would not be able to seamlessly integrate them with the bonobos.

When it comes to non human animals we don't take on this bizarre ignorance when it comes to the effect of genetics on behavior.

>>9340476
>When it comes to non human animals we don't take on this bizarre ignorance when it comes to the effect of genetics on behavior.
We also don't have sex with non-human animals.

>>9340455
It's not. IQ and personality have such a huge effect on outcome and are heritable to such a large extent that what you're saying is absurd.

>>9340473
>the marxists get angry when people have different opinions
>he says in a thread consisting almost entirely of autistic poltard screeching

>>9340455
https://arxiv.org/abs/1611.04135
>We study, for the first time, automated inference on criminality based solely on still face images. Via supervised machine learning, we build four classifiers (logistic regression, KNN, SVM, CNN) using facial images of 1856 real persons controlled for race, gender, age and facial expressions, nearly half of whom were convicted criminals, for discriminating between criminals and non-criminals. All four classifiers perform consistently well and produce evidence for the validity of automated face-induced inference on criminality, despite the historical controversy surrounding the topic. Also, we find some discriminating structural features for predicting criminality, such as lip curvature, eye inner corner distance, and the so-called nose-mouth angle. Above all, the most important discovery of this research is that criminal and non-criminal face images populate two quite distinctive manifolds. The variation among criminal faces is significantly greater than that of the non-criminal faces. The two manifolds consisting of criminal and non-criminal faces appear to be concentric, with the non-criminal manifold lying in the kernel with a smaller span, exhibiting a law of normality for faces of non-criminals. In other words, the faces of general law-biding public have a greater degree of resemblance compared with the faces of criminals, or criminals have a higher degree of dissimilarity in facial appearance than normal people.

If you don't thing genetics plays a large role in personal outcomes, you're a lunatic.

>>9340476
zoos surrogate inter-species all the time and yes, it does effect the behaviour of the animal being raised. this is also the findings of robert sapolsky's work with baboons.

>>9339729

Fuck any kind of political threads. They shouldn't be allowed here period regardless of political orientation. The only edge cases where this should be acceptable is when discussing the philosophical underpinnings of political/economic theory.

Any threads where the primary topic of discussion is contemporary politics should be scrubbed from the board.

>>9340276
you're retarded

>>9339866
How isn't this a muh feelz post?

I want all you right wingers to study this thread closely. This is why your threads don't stay up long. Last post before this shitter is nuked.

>>9339966
>Why should waste my precious time writing long paragraphs
not /lit/

>>9339981
But anon it does exist. Black females have the same bone density as white males. Black males hit puberty a full year before white males.

>spencer
>racist liberal
>right wing
Choose the first two

>>9339729

Because even if you don't subscribe to a socialist economic theory Marx was an important critical theorist and the Marxist mode of analysis is useful in helping us understand many things from politics to philosophy to literature to culture to power dynamics etc.

The right have no thinkers with such a serious effect on our understanding, right-winger thinkers are largely reactionaries with little new to say and more of a "we have to go back to how things were" view. It's only natural there's more to talk about with Marxism.

>>9339729
>right wing
>literature

Who has read The Turner Diaries?

>>9340564
>have to go back to how things were

>>9341292
see >>9339992

In my experience /lit/ is pretty cool about /pol/. The real boogeyman is /r9k/ somehow. To a lesser extent also /sci/.

I do not consider myself right-wing but have discussed it here just fine.

That ain't shit, they still delete Shakespeare threads on-site.

>>9339981
Can't you tell the difference between a white and a nigger? Why the fuck do you need a scientific article for that?

>>9341370
/pol/'s ideas really aren't that bad in and of themselves. Or, if they ARE bad, they at least merit discussion. /lit/ also has a decent history discussing right-wing thinkers; I first found out about Spengler and Evola here on /lit/.

The trouble with /pol/ isn't their thought so much as their behavior. It gets annoying when someone clearly from /pol/ does the equivalent of spray diarrhea all over a thread, making obviously ridiculous statements and not even attempting to engage in argument or discussion.

But I assume most of those posters are from Reddit anyway.