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9104225 No.9104225 [Reply] [Original]

These thinkers shaped my views the most, what about you?

>> No.9104227

>>9104225
Post your picture. I want to see how ugly you are

>> No.9104241

>>9104227
Can you engage with the thinkers instead of going full ad hominem?
Very immature

>> No.9104249

>>9104241
You're a meme

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>> No.9104267

>>9104225
>Look /lit/, I'm smart!

>> No.9104269

>>9104264
Can you explain what Grimes 'philosophy' is like?
I thought she was feminist and vegetarian.

Also who are those above her?

>> No.9104270

>>9104225
>Ayn Rand
>Nick Land
>Daniel Dennett

Embarrassing.

>> No.9104275

>>9104267
This.

OP, summarise in a sentence or two your favourite lesson you have gained from each of the nine thinkers.

>> No.9104282
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9104282

These are my nine. Helped me stop being greedy and weak n shit.

>> No.9104287

>>9104270
>>9104275
Daniel Dennett is there for his views on memes and his view that religion is a dangerous meme. Rand is there more so for her ideas on self-interest than laissez faire capitalism.
Nick Land is there because Malthus couldn't forsee how capitalism would counteract the pitfall of increasing populations, and more likely as a population crash is that we will be ruled by capital and or machines.

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9104292

rate

>> No.9104307

>>9104292
Dickhead/10

>> No.9104318

>>9104275
Ok, Francis Bacon is not that much of importance. Simply his idea that nature should be overcome is what shaped my own ideas, which can be connected to Malthus ideas and eventually Land. Timothy Morton is there because the culture and nature divide is fading away.

Hobbes is there because of his view on governance and so is Machiavelli. The first for his view on the populace, the second for his view on other politicians.

Nietzsche is there because we are coming closer and closer to the last man, if we are not already, but partly. There will not be Ubermensch and instead of a will to power there is a will to capital and increasing technology.

Eventually Malthus could be turned out to be right, but it matters whatever we overcome nature in the Baconian sense.

>> No.9104330

>>9104318
Continued:
Dennets idea of memes are important because dangerous memes could also bring us back into a Malthusian reality.
So it is important that memes like the will to capital and increasing technology prevail but the end result could still be a Landian future.

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9104393

I took the redpill.

>> No.9104418

What's the website again where i arrange these?

>> No.9104428

>>9104287
>religion is a meme

At this point you don't even understand what a meme is.

>> No.9104430

>>9104393
Not a good redpill. You must have bought the off-brand.

>> No.9104446

>>9104418
>What's the website again where i arrange these?
Search for Mosiac Maker.
>>9104428
Well to be correct religion would be a memeplex, since it contains several memes

>> No.9104447

>>9104264
>melonhead
>fucking grimes
HOLY SHIT THE AUTISM IS TRUE

>> No.9104450

>>9104270
this

>> No.9104452

>>9104292
What a fucking idiot you must be

>> No.9104455

>>9104450
>>9104270
So I described my reasons for choosing them. Admitted a bit poorly since I don't take the time to explain it better.

But what would be the problem with these thinkers?

>> No.9104458

>>9104393
Serious question: what the fuck are you doing on /lit/?

>> No.9104469
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9104469

its obvious

>> No.9104474

>>9104292
Okay, I'll go with the trivial and trite argument because I've lost all hope at this point.

Do you realize Hitler killed over 6 millions of people and almost certainly you would have been among them?

>> No.9104475

So many morons taking bait in this thread. Sad!

>>9104227
>>9104249
>>9104267
>>9104270
>>9104307
>>9104428
>>9104452

>> No.9104479

>>9104469
Those guys are so cute

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>>9104474
Why would Hitler kill me?
I've taken the redpill, cuck.

>> No.9104484

>>9104475
I'm sure some of the posts are not bait at all. You forget we're on 4chan, the reign of autism

>> No.9104487

>>9104480
Because you're a faggot and faggots went to the death camps.

>> No.9104490

>>9104487
shut fuck up cuck

>> No.9104491
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>>9104484
>You forget we're on 4chan, the reign of autism
Interesting you should say that, Nick Land claimed autism is the next step in evolution
Now there is some evidence that points into that direction, though not autism itself but the genes associated with it

>> No.9104492

>>9104490
Rethink yourself, child.

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>Related at the autism discussion

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>>9104491
I don't mean that autism, I mean this

>> No.9104497

>>9104492
cuck

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>>9104496
I am aware that autism as it is used on 4chan is different
But I would like to discuss autism as it shaped my thinking as well

Somewhat in the way of Iain McGilchrist but differently

And I have all the reasons to suspect that some historical thinkers might indeed have a touch of autism

>> No.9104520

>>9104475
>In a thread you consider to be a bait thread
>posting in said thread

Sad!

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9105482

I feel like an asshole for putting a youtuber on here but he has had a very large impact on the way I think so whatever.

Hoppe is really the main one for me.

>> No.9105493

>>9105482
Well if the plug fits...

>> No.9105518

>>9105482
Who is the youtuber?

>> No.9105522

>>9105518
Millennial Woes

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ama

>> No.9105933

>>9105916

What's it like being a self-loathing parasite?

>> No.9105938

>>9105933
pretty good senpai hbu

>> No.9105962

>>9105916
nice

>> No.9105966 [DELETED] 

>>9105916
I like you.
You can drink my beer and fuck my sister

>> No.9106008

Don't wanna make a 3x3 so:

Spinoza
Aristotle
Sloterdijk
Derrida
Benjamin (if he counts idk)
Kant
Hume
Fichte
Lukacs

Honorable mentions:
St Anselm
St Augustine
Nehamas
Nozick
Schopenhauer

>> No.9106015

>>9106008
Woops, drop Benjamin to honorable mention in place of Freud, add Danto and Nietzsche to honorable mentions

This was a hasty list

>> No.9106086

I don't associate thought with an arbitrary array of floating heads

>> No.9106187

>>9104491
This genetic determinism must stop. We are way past this as a model for human variation. Humans have about the same amount of gene complexity as a fucking fly.

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>>9106086

>> No.9106234

>>9104225
Lmao what is this bait?

>> No.9106245

>>9106234
it's pretty good

>> No.9106325
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9106325

>the only other people with Nietzsche ITT are anarcho-capitalists, democrats, nationalists, traditionalists, and pessimists
KEK

>>9106086
You can tell the philosophical fraud immediately from dislike of referencing anyone. But even Heraclitus gives names, at a time when there were barely any names to give. Entirely separate from the millennia-long philosophical and cultural traditions of all the nations, all the fraudsters, pretending to have never heard of anyone else, or of each other, or to have ever cared about the ideas and themes that all the world's greatest thinkers have cared about. And in a sense, it's true. They really don't care about the issues that the thinkers they have plagiarized have cared about. They only care about fame and money, and they go about acquiring them in such a vile and fraudulent fashion that I'd even take the gratuitous name-droppers and hipster intellectuals over them. These mangle the great thinkers too, of course, but at least they respect them enough to mention them.

>>9106187
There is, of course, a lot of merit in the ongoing nature vs. nurture debate, but only for the purposes of practical, everyday applications. For as to the ultimate solution of the dispute, that's already settled. No research or experiments are needed: it is a simple philosophical problem whose solution I can provide with barely 5 seconds of thinking. So yes, culture does indeed influence human development, but who creates culture in the first place, if not humans themselves, and therefore human biology and genetics? It is true that SOME DAY our culture will hopefully get to the stage of directly determining our descendants' genetics, as opposed to leaving them up to the crapshoot of sexuated procreation, but even when that day arrives, it will still be our initial genetics that created the culture that reached the point of being able to directly influence our genetics (as opposed to, for example, the culture of African baboons or Greenlandic Inuits or whatever). In other words, the past, the past, the past, and nothing but the past: The moral in all this is that you can't flee from your past, gentlemen and gentlewomen, no matter how dearly you would like to! (which is what all appeals to the supremacy of culture over biology ultimately amount to). There are no "blank slates" or "new beginnings" — these conceptions are merely the delirious hallucinations of the genetically weak and culturally desperate among us: every step forwards and upwards will necessarily have to be built on every other step taken hitherto — all the way back to the Big Bang — and no wishful thinking or verbal gymnastics have ever or will ever suffice to make up for any deficiencies there. Or do you find that surprising the realization that the ultimate structural soundness of a building depends, first and above all, on the structural integrity of its foundations?

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The one you don't know is Saramago

>>9105916
You are clueless
>>9106008
Should probably exchange Einstein for Kant in mine.

>> No.9106376

>>9106342
>just-cuck-my-shit-up.jpg

mine is >>9106325 btw

>> No.9106486

>>9106376
Intro to philosophy tier

>> No.9106546

>>9106486
I don't get why you'd say that. None of those would be shortlisted for an intro unless it was chronological (Heraclitus) or based on popularity (Nietzsche). The rest are renowned, sure, but generally overshadowed by others in the 101 courses.

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9106625

>With our powers combined...

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9106629

From left to right, up to down:

Burke: for his ideas on beauty
Gramsci: for the idea of cultural hegemony
Hobbes: for his political theory
Jünger: for his comfy literature and lifestyle
Haushofer: for his political theory
Möser: for his conception of civic liberties within a traditional Ancien Regime society
Dante: for his De Monarchia and the Divine Comedy
Thomas Aquinas: for his theology
Carl Schmitt: for his musings on democracy

Pls r8 no h8 ok?

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>>9104225
I'm sorry I'm such a mess I can't figure it out either

Taleb, Junger, Houellebecq, Venner, Kaczynski, Carlyle, Linkola, Lycurgus and Baudrillard

>> No.9106807

>>9106629
Didn't expect to see another Junger reader here. Do you speak German?

>> No.9106811

>>9106798
>Lycurgus
Which of his works did you like best?

>> No.9106814

>>9106676
not bad

>> No.9106818

>>9106807
Ist der Name meines Bildes Unbenannt.png?

>> No.9106822

>>9105916
is mao worth reading? isn't he just a load of country-folk shit?

>> No.9106829

>>9106807
>>9106818
Ah sorry, didn't notice the lack of trema on his name. You are a native English speaker, I presume?

>> No.9106833

>>9104491
Shame about the birth rates.

>> No.9106852

>>9106811
Maybe I should have put down Plutarch. I've been impressed by him from Plutarch's Lives and from Volume III of Moralia

>> No.9106853

>>9104292
who is the guy in the top left?

>> No.9106861

>>9106829
Yes I am so I'm very disadvantaged when it comes to virtually all my favourite authors. Junger is probably my all time most influential. I scrape everything I can that has ever been translated. I've read Eumeswil three times, the Glass Bees twice and Storm of Steel twice as well. I also tracked down a copy of Aladdin's Problem. On Pain and On the Marble Cliffs have all been read a few times as well. Is Junger still well known in Germany?

>> No.9106866

>>9104225
Edgy faggot, how is highschool going for you?

>> No.9106877

Assuming I've become aware enough to list them.
>Edward Bernays
>Jesus Christ
>Plato
>Rene Descartes
>Immanuel Kant
>C.S Lewis
>Elias Lönnrot
>Friedrich Nietzsche
>whoever is the retard in charge of ideological poison in our media

>> No.9106879

>>9106325
>where we are now depends on the past
Uuum... Yes you did not need to write 500 words to make that point. But what's your argument? That we should just accept genetic determinism even though we know it to be half the picture?

This is my biggest problem this conservative mentality, why do you want to draw a line in the sand and pretend like we will not continue moving forward? We can now take control over genetic and environmental factors in creating ourselves as a continually evolving species.

>> No.9106884

>>9106877
>Jesus and Bernays on the same list
Hmmm

>> No.9106888

>>9106884
Both have shaped my thinking. I don't like what Bernays did... Stating that he didn't do any damage would be a lie - preferable one, mind you.

>> No.9106924

>>9106861
Eumeswil is my favourite, but that may be the pleb talking in me. It screams retro sci-fi.

His fame has somewhat diminished since his death and his books are never touched upon in school (which is a shame as his prose is rather simple) but I think he is still thought of as one of the most prolific German writers of the 20th century. He has a cult following among new right types like the identitarians due to his involvement with nationalist activists in the 1920s. They don't do him justice though.

I didn't mention it but I also love his idea of the anarch. He stole that concept from Stirner

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Would be just a square picture of Vico, honestly

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>>9106924
I actually like the post-war Junger better than the pre-war one. I disagree with his Arbeiter borderline Futurist view of the ideal society he had. I do like Storm of Steel. War as existential experience is fantastic. In the English speaking world all we ever hear is moping. I agree Eumeswil is great. It was the first of his works I read and it made a big impression. His view on the world and our place in it has basically become my own. Though it seems like the anarch is basically a tweaked "unique one" I think the anarch is almost Daoist. It goes beyond simple egoism I think. Contrasting The Glass Bees to Der Arbeiter really shows how much WW2 changed him.

I wish I knew German I feel I can never really appreciate him through translations. Not to mention so much is totally inaccessible to me

>> No.9106957

>>9104264
Happy 15th birthday, Anon

>> No.9106975

>>9106879
>why do you want to draw a line in the sand and pretend like we will not continue moving forward? We can now take control over genetic and environmental factors in creating ourselves as a continually evolving species.
If you actually read what I posted you'd realise I covered that.

>> No.9106982

>>9106625
last two?

>> No.9106985

>>9106975
No you didn't, you simply say that you can't ever get away from it, or get rid of it. That says nothing of where to go to now. Using your building analogy, that's like saying that the entire building must look identical to and have the same functionality as the foundations - which would defeat the entire purpose of having a building in the first place.

>> No.9106989

>>9106954
Good luck with getting decent translations. I can only imagine how horrible it must have been to get a decent version of Storms of Steel. Jünger was infamous for reediting the book over a dozen times.

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>>9105916

choppa-choppa-choppa-chopp-chopp. . .

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unironically

>> No.9107008

>>9106325
Wow, do you really think buzztalk makes you look any smarter?

>> No.9107018

>>9106989
Have you read Heliopolis? That is one I hope gets translated one dau

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>>9106989

I tried reading the newest English edition of Storm. and it was terrible. It even won an award for translation. I can't read German so my only hope is to buy an older book and hope it's good ;_;

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>>9107003
t.

>> No.9107051

>>9107003
>The "I don't like Muslims or feminists but I like lesbian porn and video games starterpack"

>> No.9107080

>>9106985
>No you didn't, you simply say that you can't ever get away from it, or get rid of it. That says nothing of where to go to now.
But determined means that where to go is already determined, we just don't know what it will be until it happens.

>Using your building analogy, that's like saying that the entire building must look identical to and have the same functionality as the foundations - which would defeat the entire purpose of having a building in the first place.
No, it's not. It's like saying you can't place an Eiffel Tower on paper legs.

>>9107008
If my post gives you the urge to respond despite having nothing to say, I can only assume that the intelligence present annoys you (you resent it).

>> No.9107099

>>9107080
>determined means we have no choice
I know, and that's why I said it has got to stop. At its core, the conservative position of determinism is an absolvence of responsibility.

>cannot build an Eiffel tower on paper legs
So you're saying that the genetic/social foundations were currently have would not permit... what exactly? What exactly is it that you think is out of our reach?

>> No.9107150

>>9107099
>At its core, the conservative position of determinism is an absolvence of responsibility.
Only for its followers, the leaders like it this way so that they can take full responsibility and push the determinism position into whatever direction they want. Then their followers excuse them because "it was meant to happen anyway." First it was will of God, now it is Will of Genes (or both, or whatever deterministic philosophy they can get their hands on). The irony is that conservative followers think people in other camps are being cucked but the conservatives are the ultimate cucks because their leaders don't actually share the deterministic values they instill in their followers. It's bizarre to watch.

>> No.9107158

>>9107099
>determined means we have no choice
That's false. I specifically said that we largely don't know what will happen until it does. Because of that there are no absolving factors.. people have to make choices because they are determined to do so. Interpreting it as necessary resignation is retarded.

>So you're saying that the genetic/social foundations were currently have would not permit... what exactly? What exactly is it that you think is out of our reach?
I originally said in everyday discourse the genetic/cultural dichotomy may have good arguments in both sides, but that I was talking about the ultimate conclusions. I'm not going to provide you with a specific example, firstly when I wasn't thinking of any, and secondly because it seems clear to me that you only want me to do so in order to feel offended or to refute it, a sad attempt to deny the ultimate truth.

>determined means we have no choice
>that's like saying that the entire building must look identical to and have the same functionality as the foundations
Also I didn't say either of these two things. I'm going to stop responding now since you're clearly too mentally challenged to be able to respond to someone else without imagining they said what you wish they had said.

>> No.9107192

>>9107158
>there are good arguments on both sides
>but we should accept genetic determinism because of my ultimate conclusion, my ultimate truth
>you just don't understand
>I am not going to give any examples
>I'm going to stop responding now
Yeah, I would.

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Plato
Buddha
Hume
Kant
Locke
Blake (I know, Blake was totally against Lockean ideas but they have both influenced me greatly in different ways, Blake moreso)
Deleuze
Heidegger
Bataille

>> No.9107222

>>9105482
>(((Rothbard)))
>Bastiat

Get out you wretched liberal.

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>>9104225

>> No.9107471

>>9104393
>why are red-pill men so ridiculously attractive

>> No.9107517

>>9104225
I did, by being thoughtful and open-minded.

>> No.9107522

>>9104307
>>9104452
>>9104474
>>9106853
Can't believe so many idiots fell for this obvious bait.

They're all memes on purpose retards. Do you guys seriously think someone who picked Hitler is also going to pick the African-American Sowell?

>> No.9107524

>>9104292

Daily reminder that Stefan Molyneux's theory of universal secular ethics can't even prove rape is wrong.

>> No.9107535

>>9104264

>Sarcuck of Mossad

Mcfucking kill yourself.

>> No.9107551

>>9105482

Based AF.

>> No.9107554

>>9107471
Why did you greentext that? Are you insinuating I am gay because I am redpilled!? I hardly ever think about cock, shut up! I'm not gay! (really, I'm not)

>> No.9107558

>>9107522
It took me all of 2 seconds to write down the word dickhead, who gives a shit if it was bait or not?

>> No.9107563

>>9104225
>Timothy Morton
mmmmmmuuuuuuuuuuh nigga

>> No.9107564

Sartre
Spinoza
Ludwig Wittgenstein
Paul Feyerabend
David Hume
Carl Jung
Niels Bohr
Habermas
Hayek

Keep in mind these guys are just the people that make me feel most comfy. I would have to read much more before I could come to a solid conclusion on who's the "best."

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>>9104225

>> No.9107600

>>9107003
why do you come here if you don't read books?

>> No.9107604

Witty
Jung
Kant
Hobbes
Mishima
Goethe
Emerson
Pessoa
Barthes

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I unintentionally had 3 economists, 3 bloggers, 3 philosophers

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>>9107626
woops

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>> No.9107641

>>9107003

Everyone but Le Black Economics Man is retarded.

>> No.9107650

>>9107631

The 'I would be a Techno-Commercialist if I did't enjoy watching my gf fucked by black guys so much' starter pack.

>> No.9107656

>>9107650
I am a techno-commercialist though

>> No.9107678

>>9107656

I doubt that because Land ripped Caplan a new asshole on his open borders shit:

http://www.xenosystems.net/border-follies/

Yarvin also BTFO's Hanson and Land's entire corpus is a refutation of Yud's 'friendly AI' thesis.

You could become a Tech-Comm but right now you're just a Tech-Cuck.

>> No.9107686

>>9107678
I feel like we had this conversation two days ago...

>> No.9107692

>>9107678
Honestly I think Scott Alexander really took apart Moldbug's political philosophy. So much so that I really can't look at it the same.

>> No.9107701

>>9107686

Are you that faggot from that Sowell thread?

>> No.9107702

how bout someone just throw up 9 portraits of sam harris

>> No.9107757

>>9106629
Burke is okay. His ideas on beauty are decent but his sections on individual shaoes/patterns are ridiculous.
I do like his passages on the sublime though

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Feed me your butthurt pls

>> No.9107812

>>9107805
Edge

>> No.9107821

>myself
>me
>myself
>me
>myself
>me
>myself
>me
>myself
r8

>> No.9107847

>>9107701
yep

>> No.9107859

>>9107805
stoically exterminating jews, gypsies and homosexuals from inside a barrel while complaining about the decline of free speech

sounds pretty /lit/ to me

>> No.9107860

>>9107847

Then why haven't you mcfucking killed yourself like I told you to?

>> No.9107874

>>9107860
Why are you a reactionary? Does it stem from some insecurity within yourself?

>> No.9107882

>>9107874

>Why are you a reactionary?

Philosophical and empirical opposition towards democracy (and all demotism), egalitarianism, and universalism.

>Does it stem from some insecurity within yourself?

Why do progs psychoanalyze opponents instead of arguing against ideas?

>> No.9107891

>>9107805
who are the last three?

>> No.9107894

>>9107882
>Philosophical and empirical opposition towards democracy (and all demotism), egalitarianism, and universalism.

Demotism is a pointless term. I'm also against democracy but conflating it with dictatorships is stupid. I also don't see value in egalitarianism. I do not think it should be forced but I also do not think a hierarchy should be either.

>universalism

That doesn't mean what you think it does.

>Why do progs psychoanalyze opponents instead of arguing against ideas?

Because I guarantee that your views are preformed based on your emotions. You shouldn't take political views that match your natural human emotions, you should strive to find facts and values that may not sit well with you but are none the less the right values to hold.

>> No.9107905

>>9107891
Spengler, Jung, and Dr. Jordan Peterson

>> No.9107918

>>9107894
>Demotism is a pointless term. I'm also against democracy but conflating it with dictatorships is stupid.

No, it is a great term because it allows for philosophically-rigorous differentiation between traditional monarchy and progressive dictatorships (which normies often erroneously conflate).

>That doesn't mean what you think it does.

What does it mean for you?

>Because I guarantee that your views are preformed based on your emotions. You shouldn't take political views that match your natural human emotions, you should strive to find facts and values that may not sit well with you but are none the less the right values to hold.

Well, i'm Hispanic, so my journey towards accepting HBD and some ethnat ideas was a lot of that.

>> No.9107928

>>9107918
>No, it is a great term because it allows for philosophically-rigorous differentiation between traditional monarchy and progressive dictatorships (which normies often erroneously conflate).

The fact that those two things have different names and clearly explicitly different definitions allows for a clear differentiation between them. You are the one doing the conflating, not normies. Not that most of them would touch reactionary philosophy with a 10 foot long pole anyway.

>What does it mean for you?

That all souls are loved by God. It's a religious term.

>Well, i'm Hispanic, so my journey towards accepting HBD and some ethnat ideas was a lot of that.


Please read this. Even if you disagree with it, it's worth reading.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/03/03/reactionary-philosophy-in-an-enormous-planet-sized-nutshell/

>> No.9107953

>>9107928

I read that Scott Alexander piece before.

I mean 'universalism' as in moral, anthropological, and institutional universality. Here are some good reactionary appraisals of universalism:

http://www.xenosystems.net/against-universalism-ii/

http://www.xenosystems.net/against-universalism/

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>> No.9108307

>>9106853
Edward Bernays

>> No.9108323

>>9104264

I laughed hard.

>> No.9108325

My mother, brother, father, Doug, cat, wife's sister, grillfriend, self, landlord.

>> No.9108335

>>9104491
>Nick Land claimed autism is the next step in evolution
Is he, dare I say it, our guy?

>> No.9108383

>>9107018
Heliopolis is great. If I remember correctly it shares its universe with Eumeswil.

>>9107025
Wish you the best of luck there. I would recommend a pre-war translation if you can find one. Jünger erased most nationalist references from later editions. This constitutes an almost Orwellian act against himself if you ask me. How can we hope to understand the general interwar sentiment from a self-censored version?

>> No.9108405

>>9107805
Only a few of them seem questionable to me (Hilter [for obvious reasons], Schopenhauer [depending on which of his views you were influenced by], the lower two extremities I do not recognize).

As long as these are your genuine influences, after study of myriad perspectives and searching in the genuine spirit of truth-seeking, and not simply born out of a desire to entrench yourself in a perceived ideological category, then good for you.

You be you, dude.

Maybe rethink Hitler, though. There has to be another influence who isn't so tainted with violence and intolerance.

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>>9108074
Pleb reporting in, sir! *clicks heels together and salutes while shaking nervously*

I only recognize Jesus, Aristotle, and Cicero. Can you tell me who the others are?

>> No.9108425

>>9108424
(left to right) Diogenes, Boethius, St Augustine, St Francis, Anton Chekhov, Gregor Cantor

>> No.9108534

>>9106625
>Butler
kys my man

>> No.9108557

>>9106187
I don't follow you and your use of genetic determinism seems like a buzz, explain yourself more clearly what you mean by that
I can asure you that culture matters much more

See cultural evolution such as the book "the secret to our success"

>> No.9108565

>>9106187
I know "gene for [x]" type of news is usually bullshit though
And what I understand from genetics is that the combination of genes matter much more as the individual genes

I can suggest Eva Jeblonka on this subject, which touches epigenetics also

>> No.9108566

>>9108425
thx

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>>9105482
>>9105482
>MW
>Hitchens
>Evola

Lad... do I know you?

>> No.9108593

>>9108557
Hey, I think we're in agreement. I was flagging the "gene for X" bullshit, just like this anon said >>9108565

Another thought striking me is that the majority of people with real autism are suffering from emotion defecits, not next-level intelligence. In fact, often they are flagged because their education suffers from a lack of good communication and comprehension skills.

The people running these computer algorithms to support evolutionary models seem so convinced that evolution works at an individual level, rather than with collectives. It's such a large blind spot.

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>> No.9108844

>>9108822

now this really redistributed my neurons

>> No.9108848
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>> No.9108896

>>9108822
Tell RTBA to off himself, please.

>> No.9108917

>>9108822

kek

>> No.9109836

>>9108822

Is SC2 Platonically dead?

>> No.9109846

>>9108307
>Edward Bernays
Thanks. I know Bernays but I don't easily recognise his image. He reminds me of George Watsky.

>> No.9109852

>>9108577
Bottom right?

>> No.9109856

>>9108822
Sir I would like to inform you you've won a free helicopter ride!

>> No.9109868

>>9109852
Evola.

>> No.9109890

>>9109868
Not his best pic. Is that a monocle I spy?

>> No.9109897

>Timothy Morton on /lit/
what kind of bizarro world have I stepped into?

>> No.9109921

>>9105482
How are Hitchens and Hoppe/Rothbard reconcilable?
Not asking in an accusatory way - just curious

>> No.9109949

>>9109921
Hitchens and Hoppe? I would have to guess that the poster strongly desires the forcible removal of Muslims from the US?

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>> No.9109968

>>9107240
>George Grant
Patrician choice

>> No.9109976

>>9109965
10/10
>My boy Nozick
>Douglas Murray
>Enoch "Bitch I was right" Powell
I would love to have people like you to hang out with lad.

>> No.9110038

>>9106342
Nigga I like you

>> No.9110082

>>9109965
>Nozick and Hegel

Absolute wut

>> No.9110088

>>9106798
VERY powerful list

>> No.9110093

>>9107641
him too, actually

>> No.9110125

>>9110082
Hegel isn't intrinsically left wing

>> No.9110128

>>9110125
Hegel isn't left-wing at all. Left-wingers just appropriated him.

>> No.9110155

>>9110125
would you call the prussian state "left-wing"?

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whom on this board has a higher power level

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>>9110177
>philosophers of power

>> No.9110256

>>9104225
Vygotsky, Bekhterev, Marx, and Malcom X.

>> No.9110260

>>9106822
I'd recommend reading his philosophical stuff like On Practice and On Contradiction, and if you're interested in war On Protracted War and On Guerilla Warfare are pretty good. What's also good is that a lot of his stuff is written to appeal to workers and peasants in 1930s China, so a lot of the language is simplistic and easy to digest and understand if you already have a background in Marx and Lenin.

>> No.9110268

>>9107003
are you 14 years old or just retarded?

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>>9104225

>> No.9110414

>>9110401
>watches young pope once

>> No.9110417

>>9108822
>Plebbit: the starter pack
Nice

>> No.9110438

>>9106982
Teresa de Lauretis and Eric Hobsbawm

>> No.9110752

>>9106935
>Hegel
>Nietzsche
Dude WUT

>> No.9110822

>>9108424
>Pleb reporting in, sir! *clicks heels together and salutes while shaking nervously*
wew

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9110837

In chronological order

>> No.9110861

>>9104282
Underrated post

>> No.9111478

>>9104282
Is that a screencap from the "Bohemian Rhapsody" music video?

>> No.9111546

>>9106822
He is hilariously hypocritical read the book and then learn about what he actually did its rather funny.

>> No.9111567

>>9107003
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>> No.9111580

>>9108822
kek

>> No.9111581

>>9107805
>man should be simplistic, like a dog
>gas the jews

really gets the noggin joggin

>> No.9112043

>>9110837

>Oprah

U w0t m8?

>> No.9112105

>>9109965
>anal autism

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>> No.9112135

>>9107051
FUCKIN HELL WEW

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>> No.9112318

>>9107522
>Hitler hated blacks
You ain't too smart, are you? Germany had colonies in Namibia. Germany allied with India.

>> No.9112326

>>9110177
>Marx
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.9112330

>>9105916
wheres the Soros?

>> No.9112336

>>9112234
>no beavis

>> No.9112339

>>9108822
>Cenk, Bernie and Chomsky
Kek
[Some people genuinely believe these people are inspirational]

>> No.9112352

>>9104493
Now, this is interesting, gimme sauce

>> No.9112620

>>9112352
See text above "on creativity of slime mold", it is a paper
You could check out the "imprinted brain theory" as well, which is related but different

>> No.9114151

bump. This is a fun game and needs to be a regular occurring thread.

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straight forward

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9114381

objectively correct

>> No.9114469

>>9106325
I like what I see. Who is top left, bottom left, bottom right?

Agree 100%, genetics are the root, culture is the flower. The question is how do we cull the weak without resorting to genocide? The most "moral" way is pay undesireables to steralize themselves, and desireables to reproduce- but nobody will accept this. The common man cannot see as far ahead as the visionary, and in their ignorance they think him evil rather than wise. I feel like we're trapped in a fatalistic cycle, the plebes will never do what is necessary to avert disaster- they'll just beg for deliverance when armaggedon comes

>> No.9114484

>>9110837
Who the fuck are these people

>> No.9114620

>>9107197
Why Cunt and Buddha but no Schopy?

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put them on

>> No.9114983

>>9114231
I left Rand here but I shouldn't.
I never read any of her works and I don't intend to.

>> No.9115288

>>9106629
7/10
quite varied. Pretty good

>> No.9115294

>>9106798
take Lycurgus and Venner, add Spengler and Land and you're pretty much me

>> No.9115321

>>9107678
>You could become a Tech-Comm but right now you're just a Tech-Cuck.
kek

>>9107692
>Honestly I think Scott Alexander really took apart Moldbug's political philosophy.

>lol how could things be getting worse? look at these nice graphs I have proving everything is getting better and better
>lol you want a king? what are you a nerd? its not a king you say? lol, what a nerd

thats Scott Alexander taking Moldbug apart
Then he proceeded to pretty much align with Moldbug and neo-reactionary thought every single subsequent blog post, but not really admitting it.
Its quite the piece of work.

>> No.9115330

>>9108822
>that middle guy

I know that one. I stumbled upon his faggot ass gaymer channel in youtube.

Holy shit he's the most annoying, arrogant piece of shit. So incredibly cringey too

>> No.9115625

Seneca
Aristotle
Bernard Bolzano
Gaston Bachelard
Kant
Joseph Campbell
Aquinas
Augustine
Hobbes

>> No.9115774

If your grid does not include kantbot you're a pseud tbqh

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>>9104225

>> No.9115885

>>9107631
>Thomas Reid
wtf
explain

>> No.9116346

>>9107631
>Big Yud
my boy

>> No.9116349

>>9104225
>malthus
>dennet
>rand

yo.... that's some gay shit right there

>> No.9116651

>>9114965

Send this to Zizek.

>> No.9116667

>>9116651
Why though? He was born too late to understand the dialectics of the shitpost

>> No.9116684

Pure pseudos without ideas about truth ir science ITT

Lakatos
Gödel
Wittgenstein
Carnap
Von Neumann
Hume
Putnam
Fodor
Prygonine

>> No.9116776

>>9116684
get rid of this Hume bullcrap and we have a deal, anon san

>> No.9116801

>>9107641
Alex Jones is a genius shut the fuck up

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>>9116801
https://youtu.be/ZFIn708ssFg

you misspelled "paranoid schizophrenic"

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>>9116831
no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WhT9BwpRs

>> No.9116845

>>9105916
Communists are so creepy and soulless looking.

>> No.9116849

>>9116837
wtf my mind is unlocked now

>> No.9116873

>>9116845
I'm pretty sure Adorno is autistic or something. The dude died of a heart attack because some hippies scared him

>> No.9116890 [DELETED] 

Soren Kierkegaard
Fernando Pessoa
Sterling Smith
Richard Brautigan
Marcel Duchamp
James Joyce
Leo Tolstoy
Plato
Richard Feynman

>> No.9116892

>>9104264
Richard Dawkins is a goddamn meme

>> No.9116896

>>9105916
willing to guess that 8/9 of these "people" are jewish

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9116907

>>9104292

>> No.9116912

>>9107558
> It took me all of 2 seconds to write down the word dickhead, who gives a shit if it was bait or not?
You do, as evidenced by having your jimmies rustled enough to post about it

>> No.9116914

>>9116837
>Going into space, mathematics, quantum mechanics,
>The secrets of the universe, it's all there
>Life is fiery with its beauty, its incredible detail

Rap truly is poetry.

>> No.9116917

Memes aside I would say:

Alberto Caeiro
Ricardo Reis
Fernando Pessoa
Álvaro de Campos
Bernardo Soares
António Mora
Rafael Baldaya
Barão de Teive
Charles Robert Anon

>> No.9116923
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9116923

>>9116917

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sans memes

Franz Kafka
Bertrand Russell
Aldous Huxley
Andre Gide
William Burroughs
Gore Vidal
Marcel Proust
Harold Bloom
Charles Dickens

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nothing particularly special.

>> No.9117937

I'm surprised these threads aren't a more regular occurrence here, considering their self congratulatory allure and potential for vainglorious claims.

None of you post (or think) like you have studied any of these thinkers, let alone read any of their writings.

>> No.9117962

Can't be arsed to do a chart but here are my top nine:

Deleuze
Kafka
Proust
Martin Heidegger
Louis-Ferdinand Céline
Meryvyn Peake
Kant
Hegel

>> No.9117964

>>9104264
Is Joe Rogan a leftist radio host, like a anti Molyneux, or just some regular guy who pokes fun at people blinded by ideology? I've never seen his podcasts. I see Sam Hyde takes shots at him in his show and on MDE, I assume, for this very reason, that he bucks the whole Libertarian tide of opinions, which are so in vogue right now.

>> No.9118123

>>9117964
He identifies himself as a libertarian. Though he mostly is a left leaning moderate.

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9118176

Outta my way plebs

>> No.9118345

>>9107805
the edgiest

>> No.9118605

>>9107821
>t. the creative nothing

>> No.9118683

>>9116837

This is even better than:

>>9108822

Well done.

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how do i make these

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>>9107003

>> No.9119000

>>9118700
Download all 9 portraits you need.
Open each in separate paint.
Open a new paint.
Change the resolution of the new paint to be something divisible by three.
900x900, 1200x1200 etc.
Change the resolution of each portrait to be a third of your new paint. Remember to apply this to both dimensions.
>Ctrl + a in a portrait
>followed by Ctrl + c
>followed by Ctrl + v in 'new paint'
Repeat process nine times.

>> No.9119012

>>9119000
toa complecaded
pls simppler insutructions

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>>9104225
rate me

>> No.9119030

>>9119012
Check if you can think. Just ask yourself if you think.
If no answer comes, "you" don't need to be worried.
If an answer comes, you need to roll a query on the 9 most influential thinkers who have shaped your thinking. Google every person for their respective portrait. Then go check those trips again.

>> No.9119052

>>9119012
decrypt this

00001101 00001010 00001101 00001010 01110010 01100101 01100111 01100111 01101001 01101110 00100000 01110010 01100101 01101011 01100001 01101101 00100000 01100011 01101001 01100001 01110011 01101111 01101101 00100000 01100101 01101100 01100111 01101111 01101111 01100111

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>>9104264

>> No.9119475

>>9104292
>>9104393
>>9104469
>>9105916
>>9106008
>>9106342
>>9106625
>>9106629
>>9106676
>>9106798
>>9107003
>>9107240
>>9107586
>>9107626
>>9107631
>>9107631
>>9107636
>>9108074
>>9108822
>>9108784
>>9108848
>>9109965
>>9110401
>>9110837
>>9112234
>>9114965
>>9115625
>>9115868
>>9116684
>>9116837
>>9118176
ok. ok. wow. just... ok. have you learned nothing from you (((alleged))) patrician reading? are you seriously this fucking stupid? you have got to be kidding me. please recognize the GOATs of all time - Nietzsche and Joyce - or literally fucking die with no children to spread your diseased fucking lineage to the rest of humanity.

>>9104225
>>9104264
>>9105482
>>9106325
>>9106935
>>9107197 (buddha is cool)
>>9107805
>>9108577
>>9110177
>>9114231
>>9114381
>>9117100
>>9119017
good to see some of you aren't complete retards but you should still step your game up

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>>9117937

I actually find the lists of others very interesting in terms of the conceptual grouping of influences. For example, the ones on my list

>>9116949
OK nobody commented but it is all data for the pool. By the way, in thinking of influences, my list was more or less sequential over the course of my formative years ... but if you're not going to accept what's posted as truth, why even bother reading the thread, let alone commenting?

Preparing 3x3 images? What time wasters! Some of the sets I recognise no one - but with the lists of names, most I can place at least. And I sure don't have idle time to bother googling every image FFS ...

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get in the meat grinder, tools

>> No.9119925

>>9114469
>Who is top left,
Heraclitus
>bottom left,
Lichtenberg
>bottom right?
http://orgyofthewill.net/
http://culture.vg/features/art-theory/on-the-genealogy-of-art-games.html

>>9119475
>you should still step your game up
Why? You seem all-talk.

>> No.9119933

>>9114469
edgy

>> No.9120951

>>9107240
>Hitchens
>Dostoevsky
>St. Augustine
Mein Neger

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>> No.9121217

When is Peterson on so many of these nobody would care about him if it wasn't for the retarded gender controversy

>> No.9122275

>>9121217
He has an intresting view on religion.

>> No.9122550

>>9107003
Worthless.

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From top, left to right
Hobbes for his realistic views on church and state
Diogenes for first making me interested in philosophy during my teens; also continuously blowing Platon the fuck out
Wittgenstein was on par with Gödel on my thought with logic but I took Wittgenstein in the end, since I love the Philosophical investigations so much
Nietzsche for being so poetic while throwing out some of the most life-affirming and vitalising self-help tips & tricks
Marx for comprehending the politics in the contemporary world and what is wrong with them
Kauffman for his work on emergence and the fight against reductionism
Aquinas for his aesthetic writings; both in their form and essence
Heidegger for Dasein and the follies of modern man
Linkola for his balanced understanding of the Earth and critique of modernity

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>> No.9124864

>>9106798
>Baudrillard
>Lycurgus
>Unabomber
>Carlyle
& so on

Holy fuck. This is the craziest 3x3 I've ever seen. You must be coming apart at the seams, you poor bastard.

>> No.9124964

>>9119017
not really big on Moldbug and Land but I would hang out with you