/lit/ - Literature

Female social activists' twitters because white men are over.

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>>8832981
Kerouac

saint-ex

i'm kind of sad that most people assume "the little prince" is his most important work, and don't look beyond that

Since he´s not as mentioned here as he should be, i´d say Thomas Mann.
He´s one superb novelist.

>>8832981
We don't talk much about beatnicks in general, Burroughs is the only exception.

>>8833039
Dislike him. Second-rate, ephemeral, puffed-up.

*oink*

>>8832981
started listing authors and realized that apparently lit doesn't talk about more than 5-10 memeauthors

>>8833111
CHECKED

>>8833015
Keruoac comes up pretty frequently.
>>8833111
Trips of sad truth. I always get nostalgic when I see a writer or book mentioned that used to be a meme, and it gets ignored. We used to have a solid 25+ memes at least.

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>>8832990
Can a friend get some names of these people in these images here just wondering

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>>8832990
qt.

Lit doesn't talk about English language authors enough imo. Translated texts can only convey so much.

bulgakow, mann, bernhard, carver, steinbeck, faulkner, woolf, cheever

just what comes to my mind right now

Lawrence Durrell

I'd be happy if we started to read the authors we're already talking about.

>>8833161
steinbeck a shit

>>8832981
Vodolazkin
Zola
Synge
Naipaul
Willa Cather loved by all who read her but not taken up by the /lit/ mainstream

Ishiguro
Sienkiewicz
Lucretius
Sagan
Junger except in discussions on "conservative or far right /lit/"

>>8833111
you are lit, why the fuck dont start to make those threads about non meme authors?.

>>8833202
They would get lost quickly behind all these trivial threads that abound here.

>>8833202
Not him but they die horribly.

Ive made a bunch of threads on Marlon James and they turn into "dur nigger" threads

robert coover
raymond federman
john barth
vollmann
joseph mcelroy
donald barthelme
perec
gallant
Maddox ford

why

they good aight

>>8833222
They don't know what they're missing. The Book of Night Women is a sweeping, startling novel, a true tour de force of both voice and storytelling.

>>8833222
Who´s that and why does he deserve a threat?
You got me interested.

Nice trips.

>>8833237
I thought it was twice as good a book as 7 killings. The first one about the preachers fighting in the jamaican backwoods was interesting but not "great"

Alain Robert Grillet because he writes interesting books I guess. Just read him and you'll see.

>>8833039
I've only read Death in Venice and a colleciton of short stories. Do you have any recommendations?

>>8833241
Hes a black gay sjw who does surprisingly brutal historical epics of jamaica

>>8833236
Damn, came here to say Barth, Coover and Barthelme. Coover's Pricksongs and Descants is brilliant.

>>8832981
Poe, yes he's melodramatic as fuck but the man was a visionary with output that inspired and served as bedrock for several types of genre fiction.

He's not talked about much because Lovecraft is as influential to modern horror writers as Poe himself was in HPL's times.

>>8833306
2nd best english language writer.

fite me.

>>8833323
who's first?

>>8833339
Gass.

>>8833339
Shakespeare obviously.

>>8832981
Alice Munro and John Crowley are the two biggest I can think of.

>>8833030
I plug Wind Sand and Stars every chance I get on this board. Dudes a master.

>>8833352
Where do I start with Shakespeare? I've had the curiosity of reading him for a while but his most famous works seem to be romances and I hate that shit.

>>8833372
Macbeth and Hamlet you dullard.

>>8833153
Elsa Jean

Robert E Howard because he's good and writes enjoyable stories.

Ishiguro
Miller
McInerney
Sillitoe
Gardner
Pinter
The Bronte Sisters

Michel Tournier
Aleister Crowley
Pier Paolo Pasolini
Lucretius
Virgil

>>8833030
>his most important work
What is it then? I had a feeling there was more to him than The Little Prince so I'd like a suggestion.

>>8833587
Night Flight, of course

I would love to see some people talking out their ass about Robert Walser

>>8833163
Yes! I Haven't read any of his major works but I picked up his Corfu diary without any big expectations and I was surprised to read one of the comfiest, wittiest books of my life. I'd like to hear me about him from better read anons.

>>8833245
Fucking love Grillet, good choice. He is discussed here every so often (or has been in the past)

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>>8833222
If that's becoming a problem, I would suggest changing the format. I've been wanting to do some roll for a short story threads again, so come up with a list of authors and I'll stick em in. You could also have excerpts for non short story dudes like Marlon James. Coming up on the thing tangentially would stop the dumb posting, and get some other anons maybe spreading their horizons leading up to potential discussion.

>>8833573
>Sillitoe
I read The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner back in high school and really enjoyed it. Any other books by him I should check out?

>>8833245
>Alain Robbe-Grillet
I've read The Erasers and was amazed. I understand that's an uncommon opinion and I'm not that well read anyway, but I'd like to see him discussed on /lit/, which so far I haven't.

>>8833653
Saturday Night and Sunday Morning

>>8833587
Wind Sand and Stars

>>8833591
Don't listen to this, Night Flight is good but not great

>>8832981
There are too many to name since /lit/ only talks about like 5 authors.

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>>8833603
I remember when there used to be, if not frequent, at least not exceptionally rare threads about such absolute madmen as Walser, Bruno Schulz, Bernhard, Blanchot, Lagerkvist, Raymond Roussel, Borges, Lem, Hamsun, Bolaño (ok, these last two I have seen recently). Of course this was long ago, in another era, back when I was still young and had hopes about the future, in the distant year of 2012. Some of you might not even have been born back then.

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>>8833591
Thank you both, I'll try both of them.

Delmore Schwartz. Seriously, just read him.

Fun fact: he was Lou Reed's friend and mentor and the song European Son is dedicated to him.

>>8833685
thanks anon

>>8833306
Poe also basically started Symbolism and is the father of English psychological fiction.

>>8833774
He invented detective fiction, laid the groundwork for the short horror story embedding in it as you say a psychological study of horror.

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>>8833603
Everyone in these posts plus:
Henry James
Malcolm Lowry
Jane Austen
Nathaniel Hawthorne
Theodore Dreiser
Kate Chopin
Kingsley Amis
Sherwood Anderson
Stefan Zweig
John Dos Passos
Fitzgerald threads that aren't >Hey guys I don't like Gatsby look how smart I am

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>>8833685

I own these two books (Lonliness, SN&SM) and I found his New and Collected Stories at Goodwill recently. The first two books only have about 3K ratings on goodreads while the book that collects his stories from multiple collections has like 50 ratings. I've only read loneliness but it's one of the best story collections I've ever read. How did this happen? Was he at least popular in the past?

John Hawkes
Agota Kristoff
Norman Mailer

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>>8834030
>and why

>>8834005
All the Angry Young Men were super popular. I think they lost their sheen somewhat with the rise of British Soap Operas, especially Eastenders which is like a monstrosity of a kitchen sink drama. Also focus went onto stuff like K-Mart realism.

>>8833030
I have Flight to Arras ready on my shelf to read. I'd never heard of it until it popped up at the used book store I work at, so I thought yeah boi and bought it

>>8834040
Because I like them and want to discuss them with my pals

Aleister Crowley

>>8834005
>Was he at least popular in the past?
He was one of the "Angry Young Men" along with John Osborne and Edward Bond. They sometimes included Pinter in with them even though he was more absurdist than realist. They made films from The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner and Saturday Night and Sunday Morning. His second novel, The General, didn't sell as well. He kept writing but never quite achieved the acclaim or popularity as his first novel and first short story collection did.

>>8834051
same. but I already said why. because they aight

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>>8834093
thanks, I've always known about K-Mart Realism but only now did I look up the wikipedia article. I didn't know Frederick Barthelme was the brother of Donald Barthelme until seeing that article. No one mentions those two authors from what I've seen. I want to read Donald's Snow White and pretty much anything by Fred to get my toes wet with him. Tao Lin likes Fred and that's how I heard about him.

I was wondering has anyone ever read any Ann Beattie or Ann Tyler? The former seems more up my alley and seems more talented but I'm asking about both since they occupy the same mnemonic space in my noggin.

I don't think Yasunari Kawabata gets much said of him here. He's fantastic but you really get a lot more from the prose if you read it in Japanese (more so than some other classics). He won the Nobel prize too

>>8832981
We do not talk enough about theatre like Bertold Brecht. Also Vargas Llosa, Juan Rulfo, Pio Baroja and Valle-Inclan.