/lit/ - Literature

>>8726575

Why do people that read on a regular basis believe themselves to be better than anyone else?

>>8726575
>muh objective analysis
>muh bloated ego from a false sense of superiority from being brought up on dawkins and black science man
They think they're better than everyone at everything they deem "intellectual"

Seriously?

Immediately gainful and available jobs. Math is hard for lots of people.

>>8726586
>Immediately gainful and available jobs

This is a lie. Don't fall for the STEM meme, friends.

>>8726586
Ask me why I know you're a STEMfag

>>8726575
Honestly? Generally higher intelligence. There is no real barrier to entry for the humanities, it's a world based on the idea an opinion can't be wrong. The people who occupy STEM tend to be better at everything because they're the people with brains enough to do actual academia.

>>8726599
see >>8726585

>>8726599
You have never been in a humanities class

>>8726585
>implying STEMfags even care about black science man

Pop-science and Atheism™ is for non-STEMfags

>>8726608
> von Neumann couldn't have fucked up humanities thoroughly if he thought it was worth his time

enjoy writing book-reviews and shilling for the nu-left. this is the worst era in history to be a lib-arts academic

>>8726608
And how is it relevant? I've spent enough time bumming around in College to observe the capacity for critical thinking on both sides of the spectrum. The humanities normies lose nearly everytime. The outliers in question tend to be so disaffected and not representative of their lot they hardly warrant mention.

I've heard little enough about Dawkins or black science man from either group. In fact the humanities lot seem to the ones to bring them up, as some kind of rebuttal or proof that they know something about the STEM world, some kind of weird name drop.

>>8726615
It's for first year STEMfags, and the indentation it leaves on their ego and the STEM culture lingers.

>>8726575
Applicability, being able to build a working radio is much more impressive than being able to analyze influences in post modern architecture (to most people anyway).

>>8726611
>muh safe space

>>8726623
They'll forget all about that crap and it will fade away when reality hits at their first job.

>>8726617
>von Neumann could have written Finnegans Wake
Not even close, and I'm a von Neumann fan.

>>8726589
Wishing I would have gone into lit instead of engineering as we approach finals. Granted, I don't know what the job prospects are for lit, but I imagine the university experience is a lot better. I'm miserable 24/7 and am just barely holding it together.

>>8726617
>this is the worst era in history to be a lib-arts academic
This actually captures my feelings quite a bit. There is no integrity in today's artistry, there's more dignity to just follow the STEM money and attend to artistic considerations privately.

>>8726599
>I've never been in humanities: the post
>>8726622
>critical thinking is intelligence
Fuck off STEMsperg.

>>8726658
Your denial changes nothing.

>>8726642
You're missing my point. Johnny could have done any academic/theory work that came out of the liberal arts in his era. He just had better things to do with his limited time. For what it's worth, I love Joyce.

>>8726660
>denial
STEMspergs are literalists.
>>8726662
STEMspergs are this delusional.

>>8726575
From the STEMfags themselves pic related

>>8726672
>my outrage at the truth constitutes a refutation
lel

>>8726622
>tfw no terminally ill qt Slovenian chess genius gf ;_;

>>8726672


RIP STEMspergs

>>8726679
Truth doesn't exist.

>>8726683
> post contentless, opinion-driven drivel
> back it up with memes
typical humanities

>>8726622
>In fact the humanities lot seem to the ones to bring them up, as some kind of rebuttal or proof that they know something about the STEM world, some kind of weird name drop.
This thread is certainly proof of that.

>gettin' any kinda educashun in 2016
fools

Because they make more money and making more money should mean you are better but thats not true in most cases is just pure ideology 101
Also the humanities are a joke on the patrician scene
>2016
>going to college/uni
>not living the savage detectives lifestyle
Smdh

>>8726575
Because STEM fields are very relevant today, and their work / products are revered and sought after by just about everyone. It also takes a formidable level of high functioning autism to make it far in them. So, many of them have a bloated ego.

>>8726691
>spergs out over an obvious contentless troll
Stay classy, STEM.

>>8726647

Make some friends and study buddies or you will never fully integrate yourself into the field and that makes it so much harder to stay focused. Realize that school is 100% your top priorty above all else - this means homework and studying every day, multiple hours, entertainment like socializing and blideo bames need to be sidelined until you genuinely have time for them.

Honestly if the material isn't at least somewhat fascinating to you, then you may as well switch to humanities, where you don't have to crack a book til midway through the term and instead waste your time browsing memes and sitting on your fat piece pf shit ass eating cheetos and marathoning shows since you are garbage at properly managing your time and achieving personal goals.

T. Chem eng

>yfw at any given moment there are a dozen STEM majors with aspergers browsing /lit/ ready to pounce in defense of their dull, narrow fields

>>8726575
People who choose to only study one or the other are retarded.
Both specialists have a negative view of the others intelligence.
They way I can tell if someone is ignorant and intellectually shallow is if they shit on a group of people studying a certain field.
There are interesting and fascinating things to learn about everything.

>>8726687
>truth doesn't exist.

>mathematics does't exist.

>science doesn't exist.

>objectivity in general doesn't exist.

k

>>8726691
>truth exists because of my opinion
>>8726718
HOW FUCKING DARE YOU QUESTION MY IDEOLOGY

>>8726718
Hahahaha look at the STEMsperg doing his objectivity thing!!!

>>8726718
>mathematics is objective
Arbitrarily-chosen axioms.
>science is objective
Nothing based upon people can be objective
>objectivity exists
Impossible.

>>8726700
>>8726704
These guys get it.

scientism.

the overwhelming efficacy of science in its field makes them think it will be the same in other fields.

>>8726712
As a fellow chemical engineer I spend more time reading books and playing computer games than doing homework and studying. Hard work is a joke. Just read stories all day and fantasize about joining the peshmerga and bringing socialist revolution to the middle east and you'll do fine.

>tfw being a patrician you have had this debate with STEMfags countless times, but each STEMfag is an ideological carbon copy of each other and it's stale
>So rather than win outright with a huge dissertation you just shitpost because it's fun to watch the sperg sparks fly

>>8726717

>>8726757
Science without the humanities is lame.
Humanities without science is fine.
-Albert Einstein.

>>8726586
Better AT HUMANITIES. I guess they don't teach reading comprehension when you major in theoretical mathematics.

>>8726717
I'm a STEMfag but I come to these threads to make fun of STEM majors. We need to stop posting.

>mfw STEM
>mfw smorter than humanity fags
>mfw high salary in a field I like
>mfw I read more books than half you jelly plebs here
>mfw consistently get laid, triggering /lit/-faggots

Lmao you humanities majors are so pathetic

>>8726775
>STEM majors get laid more than humanities majors
Enjoy your robot sex, my dude.

>>8726717
>le rational centrist faec

literally kys yourself, my man

>>8726780

this is what cracks me up about you humanity-cucks

>>8726790
elaborate? I know you're autistic, but I can't read your mind.
Was it the multi-layered insult that cracked you up? The fact that you could literally be fucking robots, or the fact that you are all so robotic if you were to fuck a STEM major, it would be the least exciting robot sex imaginable? Even if I was that token fat bearded humanity major, I would near certainly have a more exciting sex life, and if not there's nothing to be jealous of.
You can talk lots of trash. Your career prospects, while as bland as your personalities, are greater. Don't bother with the domain of sex though, that's the domain of the humanities.

>>8726579
because they are?

they are like someone who is really good at sports but really bad at chess and so when they play chess they try to do it with the rules of sports. they will for instance try to ride the horse, or climb the tower. this absurdity they do is meant to hide their incompetence in chess by making reference to their competence in sports in the context of chess, which is only meant to destroy chess.

which of course will never happen as sports and board games are two different equally possible games.

>>8726579
I can assure you that I am better than the phone addicted millennials I see everywhere.

>>8726780
>>8726803
another humanities virgin getting triggered by the mention of sex. absolutely pathetic.

Because I've taken humanities classes in college and the workload is a joke compared to STEM classes. Sure I may not get as high a mark as a pure philosophy major but I can breeze to a 70% grade with minimal effort and no prior background. The same can't be said for humanities majors taking science classes. Most humanities classes only use a couple of essays or "reading reflections" for assessment too.

>>8726826
>the workload is a joke compared to STEM classes

lel. thats what stem does to your mind, it turns it into a simple machine able to do nothing but mechanical work and then measuring everything in its terms.

>>8726826
>major in english lit at hyp
>work in finance
>look down on boring stemfags while making more money than they do

>>8726586
Haha no. Lots of STEM degrees are just as useless or even more so than most humanities. Biochemistry, biology, ecology, etc. List goes on

>>8726599
>it's a world based on the idea an opinion can't be wrong

>>8726812
>I can assure you that I am better than the phone addicted millennials I see everywhere.
Why? What makes you better?

>>8726803

Wew lad I fucking love this. Stay mad peasant :^)

>>8726860
Makes me feel better desu

>>8726853

>Biochemistry
this. Totally wasted mytime at college on this nonsense

>>8726882
Same here.

STEM is more rigorous is all
Intellectual work done in humanities has a safety net of being ultimately unfalsifiable and subjective, and therefore pretentious by its very nature.

>>8726882
at least you're making lots of money r-right

>>8726845
>cc 2 years
>transfer to uni and graduate with a 3.9
>fall for the law school meme at a t6 law school :^)

>>8726885

lol naw senpai. I gave up on it after two years of testing soil and water samples for environmental contaminates. Don't even want to think about the chemical exposure I got during that time

>>8726884
STEM has no rigor.

>>8726897
Please explain further. I am morbidly curious as to your reason why.

>>8726885
I actually went to law school too. I was just presenting a scenario that lots of my friends did. Good on ya for being smart about it.

Humanties: airheaded sophists
STEM: autistic robohumans
CS: true gods of intellectualism

>>8726912
dude orgo is the easiest shit ever hhahahaha calculus? did that in middle school ahahahahah

stem is a joke if you're not a complete retard.

>>8726682
Who is she? She's perfect.

>>8726917

>>8726917
delet this

>humanities are both low-iq AND low-test

really gets those synapses firing huh?

>>8727004
I don't understand what your chart is supposed to prove. All the stuff in the bottom right is social science, health, or education, not humanities.

heres a better graph

>>8726575
>what is a superiority complex?

>>8727004
philosophy is at the very top, not to mention its a chart of females so..

>>8727033
You're not really helping our cause here with your graph-reading skills, brother. Kindly delete your post.

>STEM

>>8726575
That's because the humanities are a fucking joke right now, look at any humanities department in any university (especially American) and tell me I'm wrong

>>8727020
Any chart like this which has Law students on it too? Because judging from my classmates the majority are pretty thick

>>8727046
Damn, that picture is sad..

>>8727049
I guess this is the case for every major. My major is pretty high up on the list and my classmates are still pretty dumb. It's probably not so bad when you actually talk to them.

>>8727046
>that image is an advertisement for being able to work outside of work hours
>I honestly thought it was some kind of poll demonstrating the pernicious overreach of work culture in leisure time, where people are never truly free at ease
>It's actually an ad aimed at those looking to further their wage slavery
I have no words.

>>8727046
>THERE'S NO ESCAPE

>>8726917
ok pajeet

>>8726721
>truth doesn't exist because of my opinion

>>8726917
CS major here. It really isn't. I am probably going to use CS as a stepping stone for a better major.

ITT: confirmation bias

really, you should just do both so you don't attach your ego to one and come off as a stemsperg or muh human condition fag

>>8727046
>trying to sell slaves more ergonomic shackles

while i was looking into the iqs by major i also found this, pretty interesting desu

gnxp com/blog/2007/04/intercourse-and-intelligence.php

>tfw as a physics major my sex life is fucked

I'm an electrical engineer and I am still able to do the work that a 3rd year humanity student can do(Model UN and Debating). Its not that your necessarily dumb, its just that it doesn't require you to be all that smart. Was deemed respectable work for humanities is a lot more easy to obtain then the acceptable work for STEM.

>>8727099
>still illiterate
>>8727096
You know Wellesley is a women's college, right? It's probably even worse for men.

>>8727099
>acceptable
spooky

>>8727102
if you read the article he talks about MIT specifically and it's absolutely tragic.

>tfw to smart for sex

>>8727020
>tfw love astronomy and its ability to help me visualize math using huge mystical objects I read about as a kid as the examples.
>tfw I still love poetry more and want to shift video games into high art
>tfw I realized videogames made to the same quality as other art will require someone to be a polymath
>tfw when math is back on the menu :)

>>8727112
>im going to make videogames into high art

>>8727121
it won't be easy, but i've got it figure out

>>8727125
Avoid that industry like the plague. People get into that for the fun of it even taking a paycut and they end up burning out at 35 because of how demanding it is.

>>8727131
I'm willing to Phil Fish for my work anon.

>>8726712
Chem E's are the most holier than thou assholes in engineering. Don't act like your curriculum isn't just MATLAB. You can go fuck yourself.

>Masters degree in informationsecurity engineering
>120k starting salary

Laughing straight to the bank, stay mad hoomanities

>>8727143
>Not having a PhD in Mathematics

>>8727150
>not theoretical physics

>>8726805
>>8726812

Well, now you know why Stemfags act the way they do. They simply believe themselves to be better than you, and their career choice to be better than yours.

>>8727143
>he brags about his salary
>he bought into the wealth meme

>>8727155
>he unironically justifies being a peasant

Loving
Every
Laff

>>8726575
Because anyone who is good at STEM would be in STEM and anyone who isn't is a brainlet whose job could be done better by a STEMfag. No amount of denial will erase this fact.

I have a pretty nice apartment in Taipei working as an english teacher

pay may not be 6 figures but its very comfortable for the area and I get to go hiking in the mountains every week

>Never finished High School
>Become a drug lord
>250k per year starting


>I can stay at home drawing pony porn and smoking weed


Damn.

>>8727157
>implying happiness isn't found in the simple humble life of a peasant
>tfw no modest farm in the countryside
>tfw no qt peasant wife to have 20 kids with

>>8727173
Sounds good, until you get killed or arrested.

Live fast die young amirite?! XD

>>8727173
reported

>>8727181

>Thinking I am in the US
>Thinking I am not using proxies
>Thinking at all

Believing people on the internet

>>8727176

You gotta be pretty stupid to get killed or be arrested in this business. Unless you're the nigger selling shit on the streets, the masterminds are nowhere to be seen.

>>8727188
The difference is that you are not a mastermind.

>>8727166
why is esl such a meme profession?

>>8726734
Only you are bound by subjectivity the rest of us take part in objective truth. We could teach you how but we don't because it is objectively funny.

>>8726575
humanities we're not meant to be on an university as a """"career"""", I mean the entire idea of a university is math.

>>8727197
because they ALWAYS want people
what other jobs could I get overseas with a meme degree?
I can't get work in Canada, better to come here.

>>8726763
Underrated troll.

>>8727195
>>8727181
>>8727176

Hush now, it is horse porn drawing time.

>>8726826

Wow this guy got 70% in a 100 level humanities course?

This is some of the most retarded reasoning I have ever encountered in one of these "debates" and sadly typical of basic STEMfags

>>8727224
>(You)
ok then

>>8726812
>I can assure you that I am better than the phone addicted millennials I see everywhere.

>>8726912
>unquestioned axioms
>unquestioned method
>all based in unquestioned Platonism
>>8727020
IQ is a meaningless measure designed by STEMspergs to glorify STEMsperg thinking.
>>8727204
>objective truth exists
top kek

Same reason they get better LSAT scores

They're smarter

>>8726826
>70% in 100 level course
>b-b-but they can't d-do better in STEM
Humantiesfag here, pulled no lower than an 80% in all of my STEM gen-eds and electives.

>>8727358
>LSAT
Piss-simple exam, also biased towards STEMspergs.
>>8726826
Wrong.

>STEMfags actually believe that there are such thing as objective observations and that they can be comprehended by humans

>>8727451

>Posted the Anon, using technology invented by Stemfags

STEM students
>genuinely interested in their studies
>gets high marks
>dabbles in humanities to get a balanced education
>focused and disciplined

Humanity sstudents
>gets much lower grades despite far lighter work load
>struggles with basic algebra
>spark notes assignments, uninterested in studies
>probably a basicbitch normalfag type
The fedora tipping, smart but lazy stem lord types do exist, but they usually give up once they reach calculus 2, otherwise STEM students tent to be far more ballanced

Academia is lame as fuck. Intelligent people with real creative aspirations don't become academics in 2016.

>>8727451
Anon, Stemfags and everyone who isn't an autistic absurdist.

>>8726775
>STEM
>high salary
wew, that bubble will pop soon because everybody and their mother is getting a STEM degree to become le rich science guy now

The STEM push was invented so that they can flood the market with tons of identical autists so that the price of labor goes down. Have fun with your 21st century blue collar job