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7857870 No.7857870 [Reply] [Original]

Is he really the 'prince' of philosophers like Deleuze said?

>> No.7857878

He is one of those philosophers who, if you dropped him into the modern world, would be able to comprehend everything within a day.

But the 'prince'? No, that's Plato or Aristotle or Aquinas. Unless 'prince' means something different than 'most esteemed.'

>> No.7857959

>>7857878
'Prince' was at least partially a reference to his character and not just his standing within the history of philosophy iirc

>> No.7858894
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7858894

Nietchaugh teaches us that the last Christian died on the cross, but he forgot about Spinnotza(!!)

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>>7857870
yes

>> No.7858975

What does Deleuze get from Spinoza? You'd think an insane pomo frenchie would hate anything at all Enlightenment or "rational".

>> No.7859079

>>7858975
Immanence, affectations, and univocity of being.

>> No.7859085

>>7857870
Has anyone read his Ethics? Thinking about reading it desu

>> No.7859122

>>7858975
>You'd think an insane pomo frenchie would hate anything at all Enlightenment or "rational".
Yes, if everything you know about philosophy comes from memes

>> No.7859128

>>7859085
Ethics is pretty good desu, familia. His tractatus theologico polticus is also worth reading.

>> No.7859221
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"My son is taking a course in philosophy, and last night we were looking at something by Spinoza and there was the most childish reasoning! There were all these attributes, and Substances, and all this meaningless chewing around, and we started to laugh. Now how could we do that? Here's this great Dutch philosopher, and we're laughing at him. It's because there's no excuse for it! In the same period there was Newton, there was Harvey studying the circulation of the blood, there were people with methods of analysis by which progress was being made! You can take every one of Spinoza's propositions, and take the contrary propositions, and look at the world and you can't tell which is right."

>> No.7859347

>>7859221
if this is forreal it's really embarassing

>> No.7859354

>>7859221
I'm starting to think the reason most pop scientists try to discredit metaphysics is that they're too dumb to understand them.

>> No.7859374

>>7859354
Feynman is pretty smart. I think its more of once you start thinking your whole life one way it starts to become incomprehensible to see it another way.

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>>7859221
"The withdrawal of philosophy into a "professional" shell of its own has had disastrous consequences. The younger generation of physicists, the Feynmans, the Schwingers, etc., may be very bright; they may be more intelligent than their predecessors, than Bohr, Einstein, Schrödinger, Boltzmann, Mach and so on. But they are uncivilized savages, they lack in philosophical depth – and this is the fault of the very same idea of professionalism which you are now defending."

>> No.7859388

>Feynman
typical american: moron outside his field, average inside his field (graduate physics). sadly he does not know this and do not hesitate to show his stupidity outside physics.

>> No.7859394

In continental circles he really is one of the greatest and most forward thinking figures.