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7274927 No.7274927 [Reply] [Original]

>anti-natalism

>> No.7274932

It is actually called anti-partum.

>> No.7274973
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>>7274927
>pro-natalism

Looks like somebody's been thoroughly spooked.

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>>7274973
>pro-natalism
Can't believe that people actually get cucked by biology smh

>> No.7274995

i only accept preprimipara females into my life.

>> No.7276324

anti natalism is a problem that solves itself in one generation, so you shouldnt waste your time with it

>> No.7276373
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>humanism
>socialism
>communism

>> No.7276501

>isms

>> No.7276508
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>liberalism
>conservatism
>capitalism

>> No.7276733

>/lit/ - Literature

>> No.7276784
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>>7276324
yes because we get 100% of our ideology from our parents.

>> No.7276786

>>7276508

none of these three are interrelated so i don't understand the point you are making.

>> No.7276789

>>7274981
>>7274973
Literally the edgiest "philosophy" there is.

>> No.7276930
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>>7274927
Who pro-natalist quiverfull here?

>> No.7276938

>>7276786
...yeah they are

>> No.7276944

>>7274927
>wanting suffering to continue to exist

>> No.7276952

>>7274973
>pretending that you don't have behavioural predispositions to reproduce that will grow in strength as you get older
>being this lacking in self awareness

You're the one who is spooked by trying to deny your inherent desires out of some ideological position , thus living an inauthentic life.

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>>7276508
>anarchism
>communism
>progressivism

>> No.7276959
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>>7276944
>not accepting, learning to live with, and eventually finding spiritual pleasure in suffering

>> No.7276964

>>7274927
Maybe learn to defend your positions, memester.

>> No.7276976

>>7276786
cute, you actually believe that?

>> No.7276988

>>7276953
Stay unenlightened.

>> No.7276997

>>7276952
kek

>> No.7277010

We don't need to ban assault births, we just need more stringent background checks.

>> No.7277023

bringing children into a dying culture within a dying planet is child abuse

>> No.7277027

>they fell for the True Detective meme

>> No.7277066

>>7277027
>an ideology exists only within this one show

>> No.7277091

>>7277023
Epic bro, just as cool as the first time I read this in a jrpg

>> No.7277104

lol @ the only arguments people have against anti-natalism is that it's "edgy"

>> No.7277147

if you post on 4chan that not committing suicide is a "edgy" "reddit" thing to do and company it with a fedora image, someone will literally end up dead

>> No.7277254

>>7277147
Ant-natalism doesn't mean that you should kill yourself, it means that you shouldn't have children.

>> No.7277267

>>7277104
Lol that people who born and raised in cushy suburbs entertain anti-Natalism for longer than a second

You don't see any of the poors in Mumbai shouting this anime tier philosophy from the rooftops. I wonder why

>> No.7277301

>>7277267
If a philosophy isn't good because none of the poors in Mumbai are shouting it I think that rules out most philosophy.

>> No.7277668

>>7277301
Philosophy itself is a first world problem. You don't need to sit around thinking about why you should eat and fuck.

>> No.7277681

>>7277267
>>7277668
Still no argument against it

>> No.7277720

>>7277267
because poor third world brown street shitters do not think.

>> No.7277822

No lie, I read that Tom Ligotti book because of True Detective.

>> No.7278020

>>7276944
>wanting to live in a heroin vat for your whole life

>> No.7278135

>>7277267
great argument.

>poor people don't think about this shit, why do you?

rules out all philosophy actually

>> No.7278143

How do you practically apply your anti-natalism retardbros?

>> No.7278147

>>7278143
I'm a cereal killer tbh

>> No.7278149

>>7278143
i don't have children while also pissing natalists off on an anime imageboard

>> No.7278155

>>7278149
sounds like a deep philosophy

>> No.7278164
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7278164

>rationalism
>enlightenment thought
>humanism
>materialism
>empiricism

>> No.7278167

>>7278155
oh it's """""""""deep""""""""" if you know what i mean ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))

>> No.7278170

>>7278167
sure do

>> No.7278187

>I'll never reproduce because no woman would ever want me
>better justify my shitty life with this retarded philosophy, lel

>> No.7278200

>>7277267
I recall that Joseph Campbell recognizes this in one of his lectures. He said that in he never found a life-denying philosophy in all his studies of ultra-primitive hunter gatherer cultures and that pessimism was invented by well-off people.

Makes me think of Ted K and all his rambling about the power principle.

I don't really care. I prefer civilization and cheeseburgers.

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>>7278187
>mfw ex-gf was anti-natalist
>mfw listening to her talk about getting sterilized at 25

>> No.7278209

>>7278187
Look around at all the mouthbreathing retards who reproduce and you'll see it's not much of an accomplishment.

In fact, I think it's harder to NOT reproduce.

>> No.7278211

>>7274973
>deontological ethics
>2015

cmon son

>> No.7278215

>>7278204
Is she in
L O N D O N
O
N
D
O
N

No, seriously, if I could find a GF who just wanted to grow old with me and be DINKs forever and be totally decadent and worthless, that would be great.

In my experience, though, girls who don't want kids are rare and also polyamorous/hypergamous/hedonistic sluts who will leave you in the blink of an eye for someone more interesting and flavor of the week.

>> No.7278221

>>7278209
>justifying inaction

buddy

>> No.7278222

>>7276508
>>7276373
>>7276953
>communism
>anarchism
>nihilism
.......

>> No.7278223

>>7278209
It's because intelligent people don't have children why there are so many idiots running around.

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>>7278215
>In my experience, though, girls who don't want kids are rare and also polyamorous/hypergamous/hedonistic sluts who will leave you in the blink of an eye for someone more interesting and flavor of the week.
Yeah, that's pretty much what happened.

That and me calling her a fucking moron and degenerate all the time.

>> No.7278230

This thread reeks of /r9k/.

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>>7277720
And what makes your pampered ass so superior? Thinking? What a fucking achievement fam, not many people can do that.

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>>7278232
>And what makes your pampered ass so superior?
Probably being white for one.

>> No.7278288

>>7278271
Good one fam.
You're just one fuck-up away from those 'brown street shitters'. It's easy to pass judgement when you sit on your ass all day mentally masturbating.

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>>7278288
>implying I won't always have my wealthy family to fall back on
What are you, some kind of nigger?

>> No.7278339

>>7278294
he probably has decent parents that dont accept NEETs

>> No.7278698

>>7278232
Most people are really bad at thinking, it is quite an achievement.

>> No.7279323

>>7278232
>what makes you better than people that you are demonstrably better than
but you said it sarcastically, so it's automatically stupid

>> No.7279370

This should be personal choice. Much like dietary preference, your personal desires should not be imposed or demanded of by others. However western tradition has a stupid fucking temdency to categorize and slap a title and agenda on any position taken for any reason.

>i dont drink
>o s u r str8 edge?
>no i just dont want to drink

>i dont eat meat
>u must want others to not eat too huh?
>no i just dont eat meat

Pleasant reminder: you do not have to change the world, the world will already change itself. Whetber for tbe good or bad is up to debate obvi.

>> No.7279384

>>7279370
>Much like dietary preference, your personal desires should not be imposed or demanded of by others

Thank you for respecting my cannibalism.

>> No.7279399

>>7278698
keep tipping that fedora bro jesus christ

>> No.7280778

>>7276930
>Holy shit, this one turned out to be ugly as fuck, let's try again
>Holy shit, this one turned out to be ugly as fuck, let's try again
>Holy shit, this one turned out to be ugly as fuck, let's try again

>> No.7280898

>>7276784
No but you get your brain from your parents

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>>7274927
>Anything but anti-natalism

But why?

>> No.7282205

>>7278339
>create a living being but don't accept responsibility for it
>decent

>> No.7282213

>>7279399
>if you don't think people are all of equal talent you wear le nerdy hat xD

>> No.7282250

>>7276988
>You need to be a red cuck to be enlightened
No thanks fucko

>> No.7282861

>>7276952
>typical natalist.jpg

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>>7276952
At least wait until industrial civilization collapses from its own shortsighted instrumentality, fam

>> No.7282871

Literally Virginity: the ideology

>> No.7282881

>>7282871
Literally Doing Your Part To Reduce The Speed Of Rate At Which Fallout Occurs Through Decisive Personal Consciousness: the ideology.

>> No.7282887

>>7279370
it's a bit different when the stakes are a lifetime of suffering you fucking moron

>> No.7282899

>>7282881
To Reduce The Speed of Rate..?!

How Noble

>> No.7282903

>>7282899
Overpopulation will happen whether you want it to or not. But you still have the personal choice not to contribute to it.

>> No.7282921

>>7282903
In your case the choice has been made for you by all females.

>> No.7282933

>>7282921
lol nice 1 reddit, youve convinced me 2 reproduce

heheheheh

>> No.7282944

>>7282933
Cut deep, didn't it. Can always tell when they use the reddit card

>> No.7282952

Procreation is the highest action a living being can hope to attain.

>> No.7282953

>>7282944
wasn't me who posted the "Reddit" thing, but way to go straight to ad hominem because you disagree with me. learn how to have an argument like an adult, why don't you.

>> No.7282966

>>7282944
can always tell when someones got shit for brains if the only thing they can say against an idealogy is 'lol ur a virgin'. you don't belong here.

>> No.7282968

>>7282953
Wasn't me who posted it fam

>> No.7282977

>>7282966
>idealogy


hahahahahahaah

No you're right, I should definitely listen to your True Detective idealogy

>> No.7282990

>>7282977
Are you really dismissing someone's opinion because of a slight misspelling on a Mongolian Fish Farming forum?

>> No.7282996

>>7282990
I dismiss the ideology because it is retarded. I laugh at his idiocy for my own enjoyment

>> No.7283005

>>7282977
Had you seriously never heard of anti-natalism before td? Jesus christ, read more, son.

>> No.7283012

>>7282996
i know that you don't have an answer, but how is it 'retarded'

>> No.7283243

>>7282996
>idiocy

Literally fedora: the word

>> No.7283249

>>7283243
If your goal was to make someone mad, you won

>> No.7283267

>>7283243
>the
literally fedora: the word

>> No.7283275

>>7283267
>literally

the fedora

>> No.7283645

>>7282996
>i dismiss antinatalism because it is retarded

you're gonna have to elaborate if you want me to take you seriously.

>> No.7283672

>>7283645
It really triggers me so FUCK OFF

>> No.7283746

>>7283672
at least youre honest about why you react the way you do unlike the rest of the filthy plebs. some sort of emotional triggering because 'b-b-but muh offspring!' and no willpower or intellect to overcome your biological drives

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>anti-eugenics

>> No.7283769

>>7283754
Would we be living in a Brave New World utopia if Hitler had won?

>> No.7284133

>>7276952
Men have an inherent desire to fuck, not to reproduce. Reproduction is merely a side effect.

>> No.7284136

>>7283769
China is actively involved in eugenics, don't worry m8.

>> No.7284138

Anti-natalism is basically negative utilitarianism. ‘Minimize suffering’, and the easiest way to achieve this goal is to stop reproducing, or commit suicide. The latter is counterproductive. I do not know why people have such a big problem with anti-natalism. You do not have to kill yourself, simply do a vasectomy and you can have plenty of dirty sex and pleasurable orgies. I assume that most anti-natalist are also pessimists, which means that they think life is mostly suffering. To bring a child into the world is to maximize suffering. The child would experience the same ennui you do, and in a hopeless strive for happiness the suffering would still be there. I know we all suffer, everything else is a lie. If suffering and pain is a negative sensation, why would force that negative sensation onto others?

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>>7284138
>tfw addicted to living even though i know it's not good for me

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>>7274927
>anti-fascism