/lit/ - Literature

nobody to talk to about books

Because they make a living by playing with your emotions

>>7008426
Because your mind is riddled with clichés you believe to be true.

Imagine you want to share a very good thing. Then when you do, you realize that no one truly understands.

That's what being a writer is like.

>>7008502
That's what being a shitty writer is like

>>7008509
You'd know.

>>7008426
Without going into a long explanation on why this is, most real writers are smart: they have become conscious of the futility of most, if not all, things. Thusly, they live without purpose and revert to the natural man's natural state: despair.

>>7008510
You're a feisty one.

>>7008525
;)

okay this is getting too gay for me let's stop

cuz they take themselfs too serious

Anyone whos a good writer, yes
You can't make art without heartbreak.

>>7008539
You can't spell author without saying awful too ;)

>>7008539
but what if they say good stuff about Ayn Rand and Capitalism and they're happy!

>>7008548

I wonder if this is true. There are just too many reasons it might just appear this way.

For example, you gain much more insight into a writer's mind than into the Joe Briefcase's, given that a writer literally makes his trade by opening up his mind and feelings through his books.

too busy trying to capture the spirit of life in words to actually live it.

>>7008523

because writers are artists and as artists they are abnormally sensitive to their world, both the internal and external.

>>7008426
Because writing is like therapy. There are some things you couldn't even tell your best friend, but you can tell a piece of paper.

Not sure, but as I read more I want to kill myself more. I don't even write.

>>7008716
Do you have a counterargument? I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong if you actually disprove it.

>>7008525

for you

Because they spend most of their time purposefully alienating themselves from others to sit in a room staring at a blank space that can only be filled with their thoughts.

>>7008426
Fuck off memelord

>>7008426
Because people are fucking morons who don't understand that once they reach a certain point, nothing they say makes sense to others without first being translated into a simple, plain language.

There's a reason you're supposed to speak as if your audience is in the 8th grade, and if you're too stupid to realize how to communicate with the majority of people then you're not as smart as you first thought. There's a reason why Hemmingway is considered a genius and Moby Dick is hated, and it's because people are impatient, egotistical retards in large part.

>>7008722
>because writers are autists and as autists they are abnormally sensitive to their world, both the internal and external

FTFY

>>7009060
Are you some kind of STEMfaggot, faggot?

>>7009068
You can be sensitive to your world without being incapable of controlling your fucking self and looking like a cunt

>>7009058
>Moby Dick is hated
What planet do you live on?

>>7009087
The planet where a huge percent of people are split between enjoying a classic and hating it, due to being the same kind of moron I just described.

>>7009058
>There's a reason why Hemmingway is considered a genius
The only entertaining thing to have come out of Hemingway's brain was shrapnel.

>>7009106
What a strange thing to take offense with

What do you think makes him unenjoyable to you?

>>7009116
>What do you think makes him unenjoyable to you
He writes like a journalist.

>>7008426
Because forgetting yourself and 'going with the flow' and doing stuff without too much analysing tends to keep people up and running. Writers do the exact opposite, they sit down in hyper-awareness of themselves and the world and reflect on it.

Navel gazing kills. The antidote is, as Morrison said: Learn to forget.

>>7009068
I'm a man who can't help obvious jokes, bitch.

Watch your wording if you've got a fucking problem. Motherfucker used 'artist' twice in a row, as if it were a badge of honor. Vary your fucking vocabulary, and realize that no one respects the 'le artists are superior' meme. You have to prove that shit.

Faggot.

>>7009140
I love you.

Can I have you're number boyee?

>>7009153
Touching.

(510)-EAT-SHIT-etcetera-you're-lucky-to-get-an-area-code

>inb4 bayhipsterfaggotshitposterissimo

>>7009213
Bay area FAGGOT

>>7009213
Oh baby I love it when you talk dirty to me like that

Does Mendocino country count as bayhipsterfaggotshitposterissimo?

I'll drive to you, give you snooki snooki. Love you long time, then steal your wallet when you pass out.

>>7009026
There is nothing to disprove when what you said is wrong.

>>7009218
Tempting, as my wallet is empty and the risk is therefore negligent, but I'm not into traps, sorry.

You're lucky to live there, tho.

>>7009225
negligible*

Been drankin' artesian microbrews ofc.

>>7009225
>Traps

BOY

I TAKE OFFENCE TO THAT

Traps are much cuter, don't make me feel insecure bout myself ya dick.

>>7009236
artists/autists, trips/traps

tomato/tomato, potato/potato

Don't hate the player, babe--this game is my only window out of crippling depression

>>7009243
Well I hope I at least cracked a smile on your face.

But I could give you a full on grin if you have me yo real numba, mmhmm. ;)

Ok I'll stop. I usually don't shitpost this much, but three days of constant toothaches and a couple beers later...well, you know how it goes.

>>7009252
mutilate yourself

>>7009260
I already did. Got myself drunk and stoned, and dug pieces of my gum out. Anything to avoid going into that cold, heartless, dentist office.

I think Borges once said that animals are immortal because they don't know they're going to die, I believe something similar happens to writers, they realize their own mortality and limitations

>>7009252
Hah, well you've strung it long enough that I'd be inclined, after a few beers myself Eye of the Hawk right now--does it taste like your bitter cooch? to take you up on it if, you know, this wasn't 4chan and I could be sure you're a woman in the opinion of someone other than yourself and your therapist. Or that posting my info here wouldn't get me raped and/or killed. But hey, stick around, you may get your chance...

>>7009278
Haha, is cool man. I wouldn't actually WANT you to post your info. maybe a fake email ;3

I'm mostly just being playful cause I'm sleep deprived and a little buzzed. I am a grill though, I post my cat and dog on /an/ a lot. Not that it matters all that much, I just like to be flirty online. You try to get me to be flirty face to face and I turn into a puddle or blush and giggle.

>>7009294
'Zactamundo, droogie. I'd never talk like this in real life (outside the factory I work in, there it's a survival tactic but of course it's just a sea of frustrated penises...does that intrigue you?).

You've been so persistent, and you've definitely picked a desperate man, but alas I am fake-email-less. It'd be much more effective coquetry to post your own fake e-mail/skype, no?

At least for me, I think about killing myself daily. What else is there but self-expression? ... and then, even worse, realizing you'll never capture it the way you actually feel?

>>7009319
>frustrated penises...does that intrigue you?
Oh yes it does

> It'd be much more effective coquetry to post your own fake e-mail/skype, no?

terrible_person@yahoo.com

Made one just for you bby ;)

Keep in mind though, you start acting creepy on me or too clingy, I'ma take snookisnookiloveyoulongtime and shove it up your faggoty ass ;3

>What is a poet? An unhappy man who hides deep anguish in his heart, but whose lips are so formed that when the sigh and cry pass through them, it sounds like lovely music.... And people flock around the poet and say: 'Sing again soon' - that is, 'May new sufferings torment your soul but your lips be fashioned as before, for the cry would only frighten us, but the music, that is blissful.

>>7009319
throwaway mail is easy, you

>>7009294
s'true, people are terrifying x_x

...

now kiss

>>7009362
I dun wanna end up on the black market as someones come hither sexy doll T_T

>>7009217
South Bay Best Bay

>>7008708
p gud

>>7009319
A-anon...I made a fake email for you, was consensual flirtations not meant to be? We're you just stringing me along like the other anons that wanted my nooki?

>>7009437
No, I have a tendency to overwrite.

And an audience of one is enough to send you on a 'okay retard, now think about that before you send it' break.

If you're a dumbass.

Like the one talking to you.

First draft sent, unfinished, just for your satisfaction.

>>7009449
Oh bby, I love it. You write so sexy, haawt. I'll keep it forever, all these other anons be jealous of what we got goin on.

>>7008426
sad people are usually writers cause dissociation is a coping mechanism that creates a diverse inner life. Bad life necessitates a coping mechanism.

>>7009462
Why the fuck would it matter if _you_ keep it? I wrote that to give the benevolent gods of the NSA something to chuckle over after I'm dead. I have transcended your plane and am unconcerned.

>>7009474
>I have transcended your plane and am unconcerned.

You say that now, but I bet when your holding an icebag to your head in the morning, going 'what the fuck did that random ass bitch get me into', you'll be saying 'I AM CONCERNED'

>>7009482
Even painful, degrading hijinks would be a welcome departure from my boring-ass routine tbh.

>>7008426
In this world, happiness comes from a social support system (having friends and being a socially healthy person).

You will notice that most depressed people or most shut ins do not have this social support system. They never learned social skills in their early childhood and thus never made many friends or deep connections.

Learning how to make friends and socialize is critical in your formative years. In reality, most people are just lonely, its not some chemical inbalance that causes sadness its being isolated.

Artist usually cannot relate to the common person. So whether they are social or not doesnt matter. It is hard for them to form the deep connections with others that normal people do easily.

They feel lonely and the inability to socialize in a meaningful way causes depression.

art through adversity

>>7008539
Fuck me, that is the most tired cliche in the world...

>>7009223
Could you explain why it is wrong then?

>>7008426
nah

>>7009747

Nah, happiness comes from having needs meet, which doesnt require a support system

>>7008502
This would be my answer also, or they don't just dont want to know.

>>7008509
I also agree, I think most writers are also torn between this and the former point and only a few get the same(if any) recognition for their works.

>>7008510
>>7008525
>>7008536
This made me laugh.

>>7010000

where the lie tho fam?

>>7012436

>tho

What?

>>7008426
Trying to write something that's bigger then you really hurts your feelings.

>>7015818
>Trying to write something that's bigger then you really hurts your feelings.
Thought this said "Try to write something that's bigger than your hurt feelings." and was like yeah good advice

I've heard before it is because writers have overactive speech centers in their brains. This leads to obsessive, compulsive and repetitive thoughts. Thoughtfulness is a disease.

>>7008716
kek'd

Human confidence stems from human ignorance. Even the Greeks knew this.
A man who recognizes this is a man who must then find some other method of confidence, most often through some method of willful delusion or distraction.

>>7009747
A lack of social connection is just one aspect of depression.

I am a formerly depressed person who had loads of friends. I only stopped being depressed when I starting writing. Finding something creative to occupy my brain was huge for me.

>>7008487