/lit/ - Literature

hurr memey memem me me meme

I enjoy him. I still read Hamlet just for the entertainment of it. I read it with the interpretation that the ghost of his father is a demonic familiar spirit that is slowly driving him towards possession, insanity and hell.

It's almost exactly in the same way that Tyler Durden is a demonic familiar spirit in Fight Club

just look at that faggot "quick draw me! I can't keep this meme pose for too long" fucking memester you JUST see it in his face that's what he wanted to become more than a manm to become a MEME xD, fucking motherfucking

>>6957473
Generally, non-Shakespeare centic English professors think he's a bit overrated, but still top-notch. There's other stuff from the era worth checking out too if you have grasped the 16th century language style.

>>6957473
He's far beyond "good": his influence on our language and literature is massive and fundamental. Whether you like him or not is irrelevant to his status.

>>6957514
The play is full of sooo many good quotes too.

>>6957473

>To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.

damn...

>>6957473
Yes, he's good. To quote George Bernard Shaw, "No man will ever write a better tragedy than (King) Lear."

>>6957473
i love shakespeare but lit won't be able to tell you why he's great beyond
>he's good
>so influential
>deep characters
why's he good? where is his influence? why are his characters human?

>>6957473

>Best poetic language of all time;
>Most inventive poet of all time;
>Greatest creative mind for metaphors in all recorded literature;
>Skilled in creating both males and females as characters;
>Worked with several different thoughts and themes in his works;
>Several of his plays are completely different one from another;
>Was not biased and inclined toward no particular philosophy or school of thought;
>Could write practically about any subject;
>Although his plots were borrowed from other places, no other writer worked with so different atmospheres and universes as Shakespeare himself;
>Still widely read and known in today's world; his plays are always being performed (he is not a classic that only a handful of readers and schoolars read, like most of the old great writers: he is read and enjoyed by several people, cultured and uncultured);
>Has a definitive impact in world pop culture (see Romeo and Juliet and Hamlet, for example);
>A master in verse, prose and lyrics.

Now you tell me: is this guy really good? To be the greatest creator of metaphors in all of literature would not be enough to make him good? What about all those other things?

If this writer is overestimated, than all other writers are.

>>6957949
what do you say to those that claim many of his works are actually stolen from other writers?

>>6957672

>>6957473
it's a factual meme

>>6957960

Specious arguments based on circumspect or, more often, no evidence at all. Says much, much more about the classist prejudices of the skeptics than it does about Shakespeare and his work.

>>6957691
i love the way he develops wordplay, characters mishearing, misinterpreting other characters, elaborating upon misheard misinterpretations. funny stuff.

also all the other stuff.
>>6957960
who cares who made the shit happen the important thing is the shit.

>>6957473
He's only overrated because of how much better he is than anyone else in English literature.

>>6957949
>greatest creator of metaphors in all of literature

Shakespeare's similes are, in the ordinary sense, bad. So if they are all the same good - and I don't know whether they are or not - they must be a law to themselves.

>>6957473
>this is a thread
goddamn does this board suck

>>6958018
>"So much was our love, We would not understand what was most fit; But, like the owner of a foul disease, To keep it from divulging, let it feed Even on the pith of life."
>bad

>>6957657
u only think this is deep because your life is a shit

this nig is a faggot whoever wrote it, a depressed faggot, go learn about the universe and open ur eyes. that nigga weak

>>6957534

This answers the question and ends the thread.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre-dance/features/william-shakespeare-high-cannabis-marijuana-stoned-plays-hamlet-macbeth-romeo-juliet-stratford-10446510.html

>>6958018
>in the ordinary sense
What does this mean

>>6958023
I don't think /lit/ has any say in some pleb mongoloid making some dumbshit thread

>>6957960
No one claims that it was literal plagiarism. It is common knowledge that many of his plots were taken on a skeletal level, but this is not relevant. It is the poet who has lasted, not the playwright.

>>>/b/

>>6957691
His rhetoric is probably the greatest in all of language, now fuck off.

>>6958273
upboated :^)

>>6958296
You just proved his point, genius

>>6958296
was that really Shakespeare exclusively or was that just the language play in the Elizabethan era in general?
I mean Spenser's rhetoric is at Shakespearian level, and can be argued surpasses it.

>>6958296
No, that's quite clearly Milton.

>>6958452
>Spenser's rhetoric is at Shakespearian level, and can be argued surpasses it.
Ebin. Simply ebin.

>>6957975
lol

i cant even meme about shakey being bad cause he's perfect

>>6957518
It wasn't drawn in his lifetime