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Look at everything Obama is doing and saying and the complete opposite is the correct politics

>>6864858
#edgy sitcom humour

JUST KEEP REPORTING THEM

THEY WILL GET BORED AND LEAVE EVENTUALLY

>>6864853

Machiavelli's ""Discourses on the First Decade of Titus Livy" is very good.

>>6864870
fuck off

>>6864853

Start with the Greeks.

>>6864853
You would do well to start with the Greeks.

Philosophy and Politics have histories that very commonly overlap and intersect. Republic is a decent enough place to start for Politics, but before you read that you would do well to read some prior Greek stuff. Later down the line, you WILL have to run into Marx whether or not you agree with him, but before you get into him you will have to read Hegel, and before you read Hegel you will have to read his predecessors, and so on.

On Politics by Alan Ryan is quite good as a general introduction (1000+ pages but easy to get into). I would start there and then get into individual treatises depending on your interests.

You should learn history concurrently. It's really hard to appreciate political philosophy in the abstract unless you have a good knowledge of (Western) world history. For example, if you did choose to start with the Greeks, I think Thucydides and Xenophon would be a better starting point than Plato and Aristotle.

The United States Constitution
The Prince by Machiavelli
The Social Contract by Rousseau
Discourse on Inequality by Rousseau
The Communist Manifesto by Marx and Engels
Socialism Scientific and Utopian by Engels
Discourses on Livy by Machiavelli

That's how I started with political theory. Each Ideology has its own corpus of works; you'd have to get into each somewhat individually to get into depth.

Grotius,
Hobbes,
Locke,
Rawls.

Done.

>>6864853
Start with the Greeks, specifically Plato's Republic and Aristotle's Politics

>>6866257
Why do you feel the need to don my script for this?

>>6866178
Why read Hobbes without Rousseau?

>>6866279
I think you mean my script

>>6864853
read stanford encyclopedia of philosophy. they have all kinds of articles on political philosophers like rousseau and machiavelli as well as political ideas like republicanism, liberalism, democracy, sovereignty, communitarianism, nationalism, etc. etc.

Check out the Mises institute for libertarian political philosophy, OP. They have a wealth of literature that's freely available that you might enjoy.

>>6866292
:^p'' '

>>6866331
:^)