/lit/ - Literature

Remember that thread a few days ago where the anon contacted some girl that took out a Schopenhauer book 9 months before he took it out and didn't think he was weird for doing so?

>>6289395
How did he find who had checked it out?

>>6289408
She wrote in the margins and signed each comment with her twitter handle and the hashtag "#reading"

>>6289412
How did it turn out ? :^ /

>>6289408
Her name was on the card in the book.
>>6289417
Her friends sent him text messages telling him he was weird.

>>6289412
kek

>>6289424
>Her friends sent him text messages telling him he was weird.
Why would she put contact info in the book if'n she didn't want to be contacted by someone who was reading the book?

>>6289417
The thread went over the bump limit and descended into an /r9k/-style shit-flinging contest where a bunch of beta males complained about how women have everything handed to them and get higher pay and control the sex market to abuse and control men. It was pathetic. I lost a lot of respect for this board's browsers that day.

>>6289449
He looked her up online, only her name was in the book. Have you never taken a book out from the library before?

>>6289450
/lit/ userbase changes a lot day to day, sundays are usually our bests.

>>6289450
But all those things are true, Chad

>>6289450
>control the sex market
They do.

>>6289450
>Strong proud womyn who don't need no man detected.


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We're on polaris at my library. Everything's on computers and run by the librarians. The only purpose of those papers in the backs of books is aestheticism now.

>>6289472
>>6289481
>>6289487

>>6289489
meant for>>6289453

>>6289490

>>6289489
Pathetic. Sad.

>>6289495
Not even a leftist. Cultural Marxism is real but you're not more than a crybaby.

>>6289495
I'd say a lot of movies are right wing, or are at least not promoting (subtly or otherwise) leftwing virtues. Look at Taxi Driver.

>>6289501
Harsh words.
The image really has no place here, but I posted it to illustrate that /lit/ is not what all anons assume it to be.

>>6289530
No, it isn't. I'm one of the people who actively crusades against the Marxist monoculture here.
That doesn't mean I have to approve of your idiotic belief that women lack the right to not have sex with you if they don't want to.

>>6289536
>That doesn't mean I have to approve of your idiotic belief that women lack the right to not have sex with you if they don't want to.
please point out where someone ITT would have said that

>>6289495
I don't really like that post. On one hand it uses the american idea of left and right that can't even be defined, much less translated outside of the country. There is no left wing in american politics or economics except in discourse.
On the other hand it forgets that the CIA payed for Pollock's career in the europes to compete with russian influence in intelectual circles
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html

>>6289542
same place you found leftists and marxism being brought up. you're both fighting your own imaginary boogeymen.

>>6289542
That was the argument that was being made by the people I was talking about before you replied. I assumed you were defending their stance.

>>6289450
> complained about how women have everything handed to them and get higher pay
this is pretty much true. majority of college students are women. they get treated as human and enjoy teacher support (they're girls, so they need help, right) while guys are viewed as troublemakers are way more likely to get flak from their teachers for ridiculous shit. i was the most timid, sensible little fella in primary school yet when i sat there between classes drawing my favourite dragonball characters or whatever the teacher would pass by and say "if you guys paid as much attention to your studies as you do to your little tough guy fantasy world, you'd get great grades in no time". i always wrote straight As ... and the whole reason guys are have a higher average pay is because of a handful of super rich dudes and the fact that women are more likely to take maternity leave (and in most countries, there isn't even such a thing as paternity leave because fuck being a father guys you are there to provide). the median pay is higher for women.

> and control the sex market to abuse and control men
of course i'm not saying girls are required or supposed to fuck or get in a relationship of any kind or even be human to anyone they don't like; but there's two barriers that ensure the statement is p much true. first, men always have to initiate, so if you don't have much confidence as a guy you can go fuck yourself. equality of the sexes? fuck that, if he doesn't approach the chick he's a creepy ass bore. second, after a guy initiates the girl clearly does control wether anything (physical or not) is going to happen. and there's definitely some truth to the whole fuck chad / marry a beta provider thing.

>>6289555
You believe in the normie/abnormie dichotomy? You think it's an absolute ontological divide?
You guys need Hegel, or at least Jesus.

>>6289561
You're making generalizations based on anecdotal evidence. Do you have data to back up your claims? As a male college student I really don't see much truth in the first half of your post.

>>6289562
Jesus is Hegel for the masses.

>>6289561
>men always approach
>this means women control something
I don't see your logic there, mate.

>>6289570
And Hegel is Plato for the modern world.

>>6289566
>As a male college student I really don't see much truth in the first half of your post.
you obviously made it past the shit test that is high school and / or live in a particularly affluent, well-educated environment. good on you for being an obedient third wave feminist shitlord

>>6289572
>implying women couldn't approach
why don't they? they get everything else shoved up their butts, they could take a little action themselves. if looking at someone can be rape, then surely, this can be seen as a passive means of controlling partner choice. it's a simple filter to avoid low-confidence folk.

>>6289578
>why don't they?
Same reason workers don't revolt, people tend to keep things the way they know them. Some women do aproach and they're later considered sluts hungry for cock, while if they just wait everything works out; males are just as responsible to maintain traditions as they are.

>>6289578
>you obviously made it past the shit test that is high school and / or live in a particularly affluent, well-educated environment.
I'm middle-middle-class and not particularly outgoing. I go to an an affordable state school. I wouldn't consider myself particularly afgluent. Did you not make it through high school? If not, a) how did you get into college and b) if you didn't make it into college then how is your opinion on what happens at colleges based on more than angsty/resentful speculation?
>good on you for being an obedient third wave feminist shitlord
>Implying disagreeing with you means I think privilege invalidates an opinion

>>6289582
>>Implying disagreeing with you means I think privilege invalidates an opinion
>believes in privilege
i made it through high school because i went to an arts-flavoured high school where standards were low af my attendance rate was 60%. most of my friends went to normal high schools and dropped out at some point. i have one buddy who wasn't doing well and the teachers were basically bullying him, asking him why the fuck he still showed up etc.
i'm in college but i'm not attending classes, just taking tests.

i know i'm basically shit flinging, but it pisses me off that people aren't willing to go as far as to consider it might be shittier to grow up with a penis than a vag nowadays. all i have is the anecdotal evidence of knowing that out of the 10 guys in my class at artsy high, at least five had never had any luck with girls. that's a fucked up situation. the father figures in our generation suck. less and less people enter stable relationships. girls and some privileged guys are having fun in college and then life goes on and we all end up more or less alone, either in short and far-apart relationships or lonely and broken, divorced, whatver. everyone knows that women almost consistently get the better deal in a divorce. it's socially acceptable that men pay for the kids while mothers get the privilege of actually having contact with them, raising them, being loved by them. it's not good for women either, because once you're a divorced 50 y/o woman noone's interested in you and the guys fuck 30-40 year old women, having realized the odds are at this point finally in their favour.

it's all fucked and everyone is drinking the liberal coolaid instead of looking around

>>6289592
You don't believe in privilege?

>Bitches aint shit but hoes and tricks.
- Immanuel 'Your pure reason a shit' Kant

>>6289592
>it's all fucked and everyone is drinking the liberal coolaid instead of looking around
>wake up sheeple
>there's people to blame everywhere why aren't you blaming them like I do?
>no one has insight in my poor life while I fully understand how everyone else lives

>>6289595
i believe it's a useless concept used for identity politics crap that helps a *privileged* view and fucks over the masses

>>6289603
you have to admit though; this is what's projected on any sort of revolutionary thought, right or wrong.

>>6289592
>i'm in college but i'm not attending classes, just taking tests.
You're a piece of shit

>>6289595
>>>/tumbrl/

>>6289606
Whose privileged view does it help?

>>6289606
>this is what's projected on any sort of revolutionary thought, right or wrong.
usually it's the other way around, unification of the masses for a certain goal. not an "us vs them" among the ranks, that's usually the counter revolutionary system.

>>6289608
>2015
>he still goes to classes
>he isn't intelligent enough to be self-taught in various fields of mathematics, physics and engineering
>he doesn't go to university so he'd get a diploma
>he thinks you can learn anything in classes
I bet you aren't STEM either.

>inb4 b-but muh social sciences and l-literature are valid fields too
Said a guy who can't even understand most basic calculus, tip top lel

>>6289610
>>>/r9k/
>>>/gamergate/

>>6289608
why is that? i don't enjoy listening to tenured wankers reading off powerpoint slides without a semblance of passion all day everyday. i prefer learning from books; since those books are good; they're good because if they weren't they wouldn't fucking sell.

the teachers base their powerpoints on those exact books anyways.

>>6289613
*few.

>>6289616
>unification of the masses for a certain goal. not an "us vs them" among the ranks
well as long as there isn't somewhat broad support for anything there isn't much point in mobilising anyone. i'm not going to start a revolution of 4chan, by "revolutionary thought" i meant different from the established borg mentality

>>6289618
>He pays for the time and resources his classes take up and doesn't go to those classes
>He studies content from those classes in the time he could learn what someone is being paid with his money to teach him instead of studying extracurricular content when he isn't getting something out of his tuition
>He's getting a STEM lobotomy

>>6289620
>implying I play video games
>implying you would know how a vagina looks being a pathetic, beta male that you are
Tip top lel my friend.

>>>/maoism/

>>6289566
>Do you have data to back up your claims
For the wage stuff here's this. Worth the read.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/21/barack-obama/barack-obama-ad-says-women-are-paid-77-cents-dolla/

I wholeheartedly agree with that anon saying that he's treated less-than for being a male student to a female instructor.
I'm treated the same way in one of my English classes. Female (and feminist lesbian) professor. All assigned homework is female written short-stories/poems/plays (with no notable authors or writers). Absolute girls club.
I haven't had any male professors treat me like this and I've 0 that have treated female students this way.
Now we're at two examples of such treatment.

>>6289622
>Why
>>6289624
>few*
Who?
>>6289626
That study says women are paid less than men.
I'm not surprised female professors treat you that way but have you taken the way male professors treat female students into account? Have you bothered to consider other perspectives?

>>6289628
>Have you bothered to consider other perspectives?
No.
>2015
>he still hasn't embraced absolute egoism

>>6289629
Off yourself if you're serious.

>>6289631
#triggered

Seing your intellectual development, I would recommend you to read Dan Brown's Da Vinci Code.

>>6289637
But seriously, have you considered other perspectives? I'm an absolute idealist so IMO they're pretty important.

>>6289642
Nah, I'm not even him, I'm just shitposting. I didn't even follow up your argument.

>>6289595
privilege is a buzzword that relies on sociological definitions of class.

aka not real.

any definition of "privilege" is a factical definition, there is no real use or insight into the word. Its meaning can be collapsed or expanded upon any situation.

historically "recognizing/being thankful for what you have" is more accurate to what most people would agree to concerning the term "privilege"

>>6289643
Word lol, his argument was so bad your response was almost consistent with it

>>6289651
Can't say I can comment on it as I didn't read him. I'm off to shitpost about Dostoyevski, if there are any threads about him, or meme literature.

>>6289649
>He doesn't think class exists
Are you stupid?

>>6289624
>He pays for the time and resources his classes take up and doesn't go to those classes
i live in a country where you don't pay for education. of course someone (the general public) is paying for it. i'm doing my duty as a student and i provide valuable resources, namely summaries and study aides i made, to my fellow students via facebook and similar. surely i can't be blamed for bad teachers.

>>6289628
>>few*
>Who?
affluent people who fall into those exact categories. eg, women, minorities, but only those few in a position to make things work for them. indirectly, anyone who agrees or feigns agreement with those views, because if you don't, you get shunned. despite the rise of ID politics in the last 20 or so years, actual social hierarchy is growing ever steeper and noone gives a fact about that. if i were to go full /marxism/ for a moment, i would go as far as to imply it's a ruse by an elite that serves do further split up and isolate different groups of people they fuck over, pitching them against one another in hysterical, meaningless partisan fights

the study says that the 77cents per dollar narrative is a crass distortion of the truth; it doesn't really give a solid estimate on it's own. they can't really state that women might earn more than men because that would cause a full on shitstorm by people like you. even if it's not true, that the women-are-paid-highly-unfairly narrative can just go on while there is in fact very little inequality says something about the society we live in, and whom it tends to support more readily.

>I'm not surprised female professors treat you that way but have you taken the way male professors treat female students into account?
i have never seen a male prof treat girls unfairly. i have seen them harass guys in a banterly manner that was, on the receiving end, pure bullying. i have also heard from several girls that they wear tight clothing with lots of cleavage when they have verbal exams so make of that what you will.

>>6289654
>noone gives a fact about that
"fuck". noone gives a fuck.

sry i'm not an anglo, my english sucks today

>>6289652
Fuck up some DFW threads while you're at it :^)
>>6289654
>Mooching off the public while helping your fellow students also not take advantage of the educational opportunities their country provides them with
That's even worse than wasting your own money.
While I agree that the privilege narrative is being pushed to some degree by the privileged I wouldn't go full retard like you did and deny the existence of privilege altogether.
>they can't really state that women might earn more than men because that would cause a full on shitstorm by people like you
Or maybe there isn't data to support the claim?
>i have never seen a male prof treat girls unfairly
If you were a girl you might notice it, and if you ask your female classmates they might have some stories for you.

>>6289661
>Mooching off the public
how am i mooching any more by not attending class than i would be by attending them. you're not making much sense.
>I wouldn't go full retard like you did
hello there ad hominem. i never denied the existence of privilege, i'm just saying the way it's discussed serves only those already in comfy positions.

>>6289661
>Or maybe there isn't data to support the claim?
that may well be, but seeing they still side with the women-are-paid-less claim when there's no clear evidence either way shows bias.

>>6289661
>you were a girl you might notice it,
of the girls i know, which admittedly isn't much, but still - i have never heard any complaints. the complaints there were were about bad teachers as in, boring lectures etc, but p much never discriminatory. i know one chick whose art teacher stared at her tits when talking to her, which is fucking tasteless and disgusting, but she still got good grades and it's the only incident i've heard off.

>>6289628
>That study says women are paid less than men.
I know what it says. The wagegap is so often relayed in an obfuscating manner that I wanted to bring in the unquestionable facts of it to the thread.

>I'm not surprised female professors treat you that way
Well, that's a strange way to feel about it. Why? Is it something I said to you?

>but have you taken the way male professors treat female students into account?
Yes, I have. I even included this in my post which you responded to.

>Have you bothered to consider other perspectives?
Of course I have. I wouldn't hold a stance on it if'n I hadn't.

>>6289670
>how am i mooching any more by not attending class than i would be by attending them
You're not using what the public is paying for. You're a stereotype of the avegage citizen in a socialist country.
>when there's no clear evidence either way
There seems to be evidence that women make less money than men. The reasons may not be as simple as privilege but it doesn't seem lime you can just chalk it up to 'bias' like that.
> i have never heard any complaints
Have you paid attention or asked them?
>i know one chick whose art teacher stared at her tits when talking to her
That's a more common complaint than getting bad grades, and it seems like the kind of thing that I'd have a problem with if I were a girl and that most of my female friends think is a real problem. Do you not understand what objectification is?

>>6289622
>i meant different from the established borg mentality
complaining about women is pretty stndard american mentality since the 50's, that's why you have all this problems just treating them like human beings now and have to invent special laws and propaganda about pay gap. When you have class struggle you have both men and women sick of being opressed by both men and women.

>>6289675
>Why?
Because I have irritating female Marxist professors too.
>Of course I have
It doesn't seem like it tbh

>>6289653
class might exist, but not your 'race/sex/gender/feelings/haircolor is a class', class.

Any class that's social leverage can change given a certain situation is not an actual class.

>>6289626
>Absolute girls club
>doesn't include how for centuries it was a boys club
>thinks the problem are women instead of forced tendencies
>can't see beyond the most petty level of things.

So much tipping ITT

>>6289649
>privilege is a relative term, so it doesn't mean anything
>physics are relative, so they don't mean anything

>>6289689
So you don't understand the role that racial and sexual identities play in class or the way classes develop historically. That's all I got out of this post.

>>6289689
>but not your 'race/sex/gender/feelings/haircolor is a class', class.
>your
stop arguing with people from previous threads and/or your mind

>Any class that's social leverage can change given a certain situation is not an actual class.
You're saying there never was a clerical class or a high class or an aristocracy.

>>6289685
>You're not using what the public is paying for. You're a stereotype of the avegage citizen in a socialist country.
nigger if i could just sign up for the tests sans the lectures, i'd do that. there's no way for me to do this. i had no say in how our education is structured. should i just not get my master's in an effort to raise awareness for my sensibilities? you're an idiot

>There seems to be evidence that women make less money than men.
no clear evidence

>Have you paid attention or asked them?
yes, as i've clearly stated before

>That's a more common complaint than getting bad grades, and it seems like the kind of thing that I'd have a problem with if I were a girl and that most of my female friends think is a real problem.
it doesn't limit what you can do in life much, if anything you can claim support from other women and the system through it. and it wasn incident, one teacher, and they guy was an alcoholic, noone took him serious or liked him for that matter.

>>6289687
>complaining about women is pretty stndard american mentality since the 50's
>comparing 1950ies machoism to a modern critique of gender based treatment
shiggy

>>6289688
>Because I have irritating female Marxist professors too.
lol She introduced three literary theories to the class: Marxist, Archetypal, and Colonialism,

>It doesn't seem like it tbh
OK would you tell me what you mean by this?
>I've [had] 0 that have treated female students this way.
Was it this^
Because if it is, I'm not going off of nothing here.
I'm stating it from what I've found from being sociable in my classes, asking girls and boys what they think of our instructors, classes. Maybe that wasn't clear because I didn't say it.

>>6289701
>nigger if i could just sign up for the tests sans the lectures, i'd do that. there's no way for me to do this. i had no say in how our education is structured
Sounds like you're in an unprivileged position relative to those who determined the conditions under which you could get an education :^)
>no clear evidence
The richest people have historically been male, and there are more men in the workforce and there have always been fewer barriers to entry into the workforce for men than for women. If you think otherwise you don't know anything about history.
>it doesn't limit what you can do in life much
How do you know?
>and it wasn incident, one teacher, and they guy was an alcoholic, noone took him serious or liked him for that matter.
One that you've heard of. And not being taken seriously or not being liked doesn't mean that isn't a typical attitude that lots of men have. I know I often stare at girls' tits and I'm certain you're no different. It's just what males do.

>>6289710
It doesn't seem like it because you're convinced that every perspective but yours is wrong.

>enter thread expecting feminist literature or something
>see this

>>6289713
>Sounds like you're in an unprivileged position relative to those who determined the conditions under which you could get an education :^)
i dont even know what your point here would be

>The richest people have historically been male
0.1 % of men

>more men in the workforce
because we don't get maternity leave and have to work longer before were allowed to retire

>there have always been fewer barriers to entry into the workforce for men
historically, but that's an outdated view

>How do you know?
observation

>One that you've heard of.
versus several of girls using their body to be judged favourably

you're grossly biased against men. women objectify men just as much, in different ways; as providers, cash cows, to use their power, etc

>>6289754
>women objectify men just as much, in different ways; as providers, cash cows, to use their power, etc
So you admit men make more money and have more power than women?

>>6289758
you can squeeze anyone for money and power. it's called exploitation

>>6289762
What does that have to do with anything? Are you implying women aren't exploited?

>>6289592

So why haven't any contemporary authors commented on this male problem? is it because they are unoriginal hacks ?

>>6289703
Both take for granted that women are born thinking and feeling different, which is unscientific and silly.

>>6289765
i'm implying a significant portion of women choose and use men to get their cash.

and yeah, i do think men have more cash on average, because they work more. because they have to. that doesn't conflict with the view they dont EARN more; they just work more.

>>6289773
they have, you're reading the wrong ones.

and even the ones who don't get flak for being men. see tao lin's rape lawsuit and related PR shit flinging

>>6289777
no, lol, it's not unscientific. go ask a biologist what he thinks about that.

>>6289715
That's not what I think at all. And that's not what I said.
How can this make sense to you if I started a post by saying, I wholeheartedly agree with something? In fact I shared a story supporting another anon. How can this be true when I have consistently called upon you to explain to me what you mean, when I have literally called upon you to explain yourself and share your thoughts?

No perspective can be wrong or right, for a perspective is a singular angle of the truth. And we all have different angles of it. It is by surveying others' perspectives that we can suss out the shape of the truth. I know this much.
I don't know what you're trying to tell me.

>>6289732
I made the thread to hear nice stories about anons' times with women. I don't know what happened.

>>6289801
>Implying Israel isn't a terror state

>>6289801
you can't come to the place on the web where you get the highest % of disenfranchised young men and expect them to have favourable views on women

>>6289790
>they just work more.
Like I said, there are fewer barriers against entry into the workforce for men than there are for women.
>>6289795
You're agreeing with someone who has the same flawed and singular perspective you've chosen to adopt. You're ignoring perspectives that see you as privileged

>>6289837
>, there are fewer barriers against entry into the workforce for men
nigger there are QUOTAS ensuring women get the job. equality advisors cracking down on anyone who'll do otherwise. the reason men work more are because, again, no maternity leave, later option of retirement, and women choose to do part time more often, etc

>You're agreeing with someone who has the same flawed and singular perspective you've chosen to adopt. You're ignoring perspectives that see you as privileged
you're doing the same, and you're not even halfway addressing them

>>6289847
Enjoy your resentment. I'm done here.
I'll remember this conversation next time I hook up with the girl I'm hooking up with.

>>6289801
you should had included a few posts to motivate others to share

>>6289824
>Implying it is

>>6289801
I have a few, but they kinda feel unimportant in front of this /r9k/ dialctical shitstorm.

>current girlfriend
>met because we did theatre together
>we both wrote and liked each other's style
>started going out b/c lending each other books and going to libraries
>break up, get back together talking about books again

>previous girlfriend
>likes Sartre, Camus and all things Existential
>start exchanging books about Leopardi, Sartre, Ginsberg
>get together, get drunk, make out
>repeat for a few months

>me starting college
>meet russian philosophy student
>talk for hours, shitface drunk, about Wittgenstein and Speculative Realism and stuff
>manage to give her a book despite almost too drunk to walk
>meet back a few weeks later, get drunk
>have sex all night

have other but they're not strictly /lit/ related

>>6289866
aiight bruv seems like u a player with made game eh :^)

>>6289891
Moreso than you, it seems ;)

>>6289901
privilege strikes again

>>6289885
Thanks for sharing, man.
>>6289867
You're very right.
>>6289824
lol never noticed the flag. whoops.

>>6289837
>You're ignoring perspectives that see you as privileged
I go to a community college, pal.

>>6289974
So what?

>>6289991
So privilege plays no hand in the position I'm in.

>>6289991
But maybe it does and I don't see it. Could you tell me how perspectives would find me privileged?

>>6289998
Are you a straight white male?

>>6290002
>Are you a straight white male?
I sure am.

>>6290006
Well, there you have it.

>>6290021

I'm doing all I can to see the relevance of what you're saying to what we've been talking about, but I'm struggling here because I can't make out what you mean to say, man.

>You're ignoring perspectives that see you as privileged

So you're implying that I'm being treated poorly and lesser-than by my professor due to my being white, heterosexual, and a man?

>>6290049
I'm implying that you're privileged because of your racial and sexual normativity and you don't understand that fact.

>>6290056
that's been a controversial issue throughout the entire debate and now youre just shortcutting it by appealing to the same SJW narrative that's been questioned all along.

and that's not a fact, that's an assumption.

men kill themselves more often. men are more often homeless. is that privilege?

>>6290124
But you ARE privileged, privilege is a socioeconomic fact whether you accept it or not.

>>6290124
>>6290135
ITT: two elks blindly headbutting eachother

>>6290135
> men kill themselves more often
> they are more likely to be homeless
> you are privileged

>>6290056
And?

What you've stated does not contradict anything that I've said said in this thread nor make moot any of the opinions or stories which I've shared.
My "privilege" has no relevance to this.
Are you of the mind ( perspective ) that it does, and that my being a part of a majority pilfers any validity to my words?

>>6290142
Well, yeah. There's more to privilege than those two factors. I don't even know if you're right, I've seen studies claiming other groups are more likely to be in those positions. Could you provide some data to back up your claims?
>>6290147
I'm of the mind that you seem to not care about the experiences of members of other classes, races, or genders.

>>6290165
>I'm of the mind that you seem to not care about the experiences of members of other classes, races, or genders.

I've demonstrated no such sentiments.
You are imposing positions on me which I do not abide.

>>6290165
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/may/07/men-gender-divide-feminism
>biased justice: 29% of male first-time offenders were sentenced to custody. For women, that figure was 17%.
>Men are also more likely to be made redundant and less likely to be re-employed than women
>Education: The gap between men and women applying to, and entering, university is growing.
>Homelessness: the latest CHAIN figures suggest that 9 out of 10 people sleeping rough are male.
>Suicide: For every single age group between 2006 and 2010, men were significantly more likely than women to take their own lives. There's a basic question that this raises: if those rates were the other way around, would they attract feminist attention?

PRIVILEGE.
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>>6290181
I don't even know which frogposter I'm arguing with at this point. Sorry I'm lumping you and the leech who refuses to go to his state-subsidized university classes into the same apathetic bulge of fedora.
If you care about other social groups, why don't you admit that you're privileged?

>>6290203
>leech who refuses to go to his state-subsidized university classes
i still don't understand what your problem here is. these aren't the kind of classes where you sit with groups of people, discussing stuff and working on things. it's giant halls filled with around a thousand people, some of them sitting on the floor because there's too little space. if anything i'm doing the university a favour by freeing up space for those who prefer attend.

the lectures are godawful. the profs are there because they have done research at the university and they need more income so they get the job. they don't give a fuck. they COPY PASTE from the books i use to learn and put that onto their slides and read that in front of 1k people who are expecting a solid education and get that crap.

what course of action do you suggest?

and how exactly am i leeching? i am not costing the system one cent more or less by not attending.

i'm getting mildly annoyed at your inflammatory shitposting.

>>6290223
>what course of action do you suggest?
Going to class.
>and how exactly am i leeching? i am not costing the system one cent more or less by not attending.
You're wasting resources that the state is allocating towards your education.

But you don't live in my country so I guess I should be happy about the negative effect you're inadvertently having on your country's economy.

>>6290242
>You're wasting resources that the state is allocating towards your education.
i didn't ask the state to do that. i can't be blamed for bad teachers. if i would go to class, i would probably study less out of frustration. i'm getting very good grades atm and will probably prove more of a resource to the state / the state's economy once i'm outta there than the average student.

your argument is basically unsubstantiated guilt tripping.

the resource (1 professor) does not go wasted because there's one student more or less attending. the money spent, however, is arguably going wasted because the professor is doing shitty lectures. you wanna blame someone blame that guy ffs

>Going to class.
what good would come from that?

>>6290256
I'm not going to blame your professor for your laziness. You're the worst kind of student. You should be ashamed, but you have no shame and this exchange has proven that, if nothing else.

>>6290262
>You're the worst kind of student.
>is passionate about his subject
>gets good grades
>provides study material, and occasionally guidance, to his fellow students
>thinks critically

obviously the state does not have to spend any more or less because of me, so could you please tell me what resource it is losing?

am i offending the state's privilege?

why is it not okay to blame someone for his laziness? is it inacceptable to question teachers? are you an authoritarian cocksucker?

>>6290203
I am privileged to nothing. My belonging to a majority does not imply anything.
I have been denied employment due to my lack of merit or qualifications. And I have recieved employment due to my actual merit and qualifications. There had been along my side in every position of employment I've held minorities and women (given those jobs due to their merit and qualifications). I attend a community college because I cannot afford to attend a university at this time in my life, but someday I hope something will change, but I dictate these changes. I dictate my life.

The privilege you are imposing upon all whites all men and all straights is nothing more than a prejudgment.

Do you assume all Blacks are good at basketball ?
Do you assume all Black men have big cocks?
Do you assume all blacks are great dancers?
Do you assume all Asians are geniuses ?
Do you assume all Latinos are hard working ?

These are all prejudgments and they're not good for anyone any race any man any woman.

It's taken me a moment to write all this out and
I doubt any of it will have an affect on you, man. You are very convinced that your convictions are righteous. And I don't think there is anything that could prove you wrong. I wish you the best all the same.

>>6290278
> so could you please tell me what resource it is losing?
It's paying for the resources allocated toward the time you're supposed to be spending in class.
You don't seem to have very good critical thinking skills, if you did you could figure that out.

>>6290280
Privilege is socioeconomic. Those other factors aren't. You've made a category mistake.

>>6290282
>It's paying for the resources allocated toward the time you're supposed to be spending in class.
no they're not; they're allocated toward a very vague estimate of students who will attend on a very, very rough basis (1 teacher per 1k students).

individually, my staying away from lectures has no effect

if more people did it, the effect would be that less teachers are provided, the state has even more fucking resources to spend now, and those who learn by themselves and in study groups will probably prove to be more independent and passionate than those who attend shitty fucking lectures.

>>6290297
>if
But we live in the actual world, nor a possible world.

>>6290299
>individually, my staying away from lectures has no effect
here's your actual world scenario you selectively replying shitlord

>>6290301
But you're wrong; the resources are being allocated with your presence at lecture in mind in this actual world.

>>6290306
no they're not; they're allocated toward a very vague estimate of students who will attend on a very, very rough basis (1 teacher per 1k students).

>>6290308
I'm done. Go to class, shitlord.

>>6290319
>i'm done
shitposting? stating unsubstantiated opinions?

>>6290321
I think she's visiting from a certain website.

>>6290321
Tipping hats with you.
>>6290325
>implying I'm not a guy
>implying only girls could think this guy's full of shit

>>6289395
It's not really weird though.

it's precisely that sort of stuff that runs in the first act of all romcoms.

>>6290338
Real life isn't a movie. Do you not understand how fantasies work?

>>6289506
I think the broader audiences of most films as well as the fact it's significantly further removed from academia than literature allow movies more wiggle room. The same goes for music. That post really only applies to literature.

>>6290332
>Tipping hats with you.
memeposting is not an argument

>>6290348
My arguments went over your head.

>>6290344
If romcoms reflect what people find romantic, why wouldn't they find it romantic in real life as well?

>>6290351
No, they went over his hat.

>>6290351
no, they were based on flawed circular logic.

there's simply no tangible resource i'm wasting. my absence does not hurt anyone, least the state.

your imagined resources are hypothetical.

>>6290352
>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_%28psychology%29

>>6290364
If they're so hypothetical then how is your education being paid for?

>>6290368
>http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_%28psychology%29
>A fantasy is a situation imagined by an individual that expresses certain desires or aims on the part of its creator.
Your point being?

>>6290370
by the state. why?

>>6290373
It isn't necessarily something people want to actually experience.
>>6290377
Not by whom, with what? I thought you said you had critical thinking skills.

>>6290393
>It isn't necessarily something people want to actually experience.
Of course it is, otherwise it wouldn't be a desire.

>>6290393
with money. allocated on a per class basis, not per student.

>>6290396
Are you autistic?
>>6290398
So you're wasting money, even if it wasn't specifically allocated toward you.

>>6290408
>Are you autistic?
No, you're just condtradicting yourself. It's either a desire or it isn't.

>>6290408
>So you're wasting money, even if it wasn't specifically allocated toward you.
no, because there is no difference in money allocated wether i attend or not.

>>6290412
People enjoy seeing horror movies, does that mean everyone should act like Jason or the guy from Saw?
>>6290416
The money is spent, and you're not using the resources it's spent on, which are used by the state for your benefit; therefore, you're wasting it.
Just admit you're wasting money and this will be over.

>>6290431
>The money is spent,
on a per class basis which my attendance has no effect on
>and you're not using the resources it's spent on
which is my personal loss, not the states, as it is not losing any money caused by it
>which are used by the state for your benefit;
no, they're used to employ that prof to teach a vague amount of students. you're getting mad ideological in here.

>>6290408
>Are you autistic?
you do yourself a discredit by getting upset like that in a discussion

>>6290441
No, you're just dense.
>>6290444
Kek

>>6290441
Could you please stop feeding the troll, this is becoming a sore in page 0.

>>6290507
>No, you're just dense.
no, you are dense.

there, we eye level now

>>6290514
I'm not trolling, though.

Lmao what is this thread

>>6290532
Privileged white guys pretending they aren't privileged

>>6290540

>someone made this to support their own spookyness

jesus

>>6290523
sorry, stop feeding the retard then

does brown privilege exist in majority brown countries?

genuine question

>>6290540
Reminds me of the night-time /v/ phenomenon; discussion would generally fade from macro-posting to critical thought over the course of a few hours, repeated on a 24 hour course.

>>6289506

Yea, that's because cultural Marxism didn't become normalized until the mid 80s. Taxi Driver is 1976.

>>6290730
Let my thread die, man. It's a black mark on /lit/.

>>6290730
>cultural Marxism
LOL!

>>6290719
yeah lol because night time was Euro time

fuck you're bringing back all the memories, I haven't gone on /v/ since 2013 or 4chan really

fuck I need to go before I start to love it again

>muh cultural marxism
>muh privilege

holy fuck come on /lit/

>>6290540
>here are the bits I agree with, women are victims etc.

>here are the bits I disagree with, contrary views etc.

why, then, in all of human history throughout the enormous planet earth did women not once at any point create their own civilisation and cast away the chains men have been apparently forcing them into? It's like they're dependent on men or something.

>>6290732

>not knowing that cultural marxism is slowly destroying western civilization