/lit/ - Literature

>>6274352
Nice childhood memories

The first two were pretty good, then I stopped even if my parents bought me the first four

I'm pretty sure that most of /lit/ dislikes the glaring plotholes in the novels, and the ridiculous amount of deus ex machina that occurs.

I enjoy the first three books, then it starts to go downhill once the overarching story starts to take front stage.

It's a frustrating series, that out of 7 books, there's only ~4 well written characters (and one of those you have to asspull and imply/assume a lot) and there's only a few really memorable scenes.

>objective opinion

In my experience, someone who reads fanfiction of this series is someone to be avoided.

I really enjoyed the first three books, Azkaban probably being my favorite of the series.

>>6274368
>I stopped even if my parents bought me the first four
I felt pretty bad when my dad bought me a copy of book six as a gift when I knew my interest was gone after finishing five. I own the last two books but have never brought myself back to reading the series again.

>>6274415
whoops

...but yeah

>>6274453
>when I knew my interest was gone after finishing five
I will read the other two to my grandchildrens in 40 years

I love the series. One of my favorite childhood/teen books.

>>6274352
6 >>>> 3 > 5 > 7 > 4 > 1 >>>> 2

>>6274352
1 - 3 tell an excellent -- and complete -- story. The orphan reconciled.

The giant size and late delivery of v4 signals the trouble ahead. Eventually you're just reading a Guardian article.

>>6274453
I feel you.

After reading the 4th book my interest in literature had completly changed, though I read them all a couple of years later because I felt bad of leaving it at that when my mother bought me every book that came out after 4th in the veyr release days.

I wasted my time.

>>6275795
the deathly hallows could have been foreshadowed at all and it would forgive a lot.

I read the first one when I was too old so I never got into them. I'm not a big fan of the fantasy genre either so I don't see much reason to try and get into them.

I can see where you're coming from though, OP. The books and movies are definitely cozy. I'm guessing it's through a mixture of atmosphere and low difficulty level.

>>6275806
I mean, the idea of "a bit of him in an object being able to fuck shit up" is already there, at least. And more to the point I think there had to be something darker about the "dark arts" than was being let on. Sure, unforgivable curses can be pretty cruel, but if the worst thing the "dark arts" could do is hurt or kill someone, they wouldn't be much different from typical spells used for unintended purposes. A killing curse is normally unblockable, so it's much more of a sure thing than throwing someone off a tower or dropping a heavy object on their head or something, but it's not exactly so unimaginably evil that it has to be censored and locked away in a special library, is it? So you could say that JKR was foreshaddowing a truly dark side of magic for a very long time, involving something more sinister than just typical spells that can be used to hurt people.

>>6275752
Bitch, everybody knows that Goblet of Fire is the best.

>>6275833
Goblet of fire is only so fucking large because JK Rowling had to continually edit and rewrite her GAPING plot holes out of it.

Yes, we all know HP has plot holes, but these were so obvious that even JK noticed them, so now we have the massive Infinite Jest wannabe that is Goblet of Fire

Your choice in favorite novel is objectively wrong

>>6275879
what are some plotholes in HP?
non-timetravel ones of course

>>6275752
but chamber of secrets is my favorite

>>6275905
Off the top of my head: In the 7th book, they need a fang from a basilisk to destroy a horcrux, but that same fang didn't explode Harry when he was bitten

>>6275936
oh thats a good one. could be argued that harry is a person though and it did almost kill him. the book didnt explode right away either. still good one.

Recently just read the first 4 to my little sister (8) and liked them a lot more than I thought I would. She was completely obsessed halfway through the first one so I guess JK did something right.

>>6274352
>It has such a cozy feeling attached, like reading through a Christmas song inside the warm house, while it snows outside.

This. No one has captured the feeling of the early Harry Potter books so well.

>>6274428

People have made millions selling HP fanfiction. Well, one person. I'm sure there are more who have more subtlety. Probably.

>>6274352
loved the series
the 4th was my favorite

>>6275752
I actually agree with you up until the very end. I honestly think that 1 > 2, but other than that you're spot on.

Hell, I'm convinced you're probably a troll, but I still agree. 6 is, by a wide margin, the bets book. 3 was the first book where they stopped being children's stories and actually started getting interesting, if Rowling had written 3 years later, it may have been the best. 5 is just fucking solid. Probably some of the best characterization of villains. 7 is fine, but it's either (a) boring wandering around, or (b) action which drags on. 4 is fine as far as episodic shorts, but it's not a cohesive novel. 1 and 2 are just silly.

>>6277525
fanfiction is shit

>>6277525
Who is the one person to whom you are alluding?

>>6277525
>People have made millions selling HP fanfiction.
How the fuck did they get away with that?

>>6277590
>I honestly think that 1 > 2
which is exactly how I have them, that 1 is better than 2

>>6277590
>Hell, I'm convinced you're probably a troll
Fucking why? Because we have the same opinion? Why do you think that's trolling?

6 is by far the best book, as you say. After that, 3 is the best. After that, it doesn't really matter because none of the quality approaches 6 or 3, but I have listed them in my perceived (correct) order of quality... and you agree with me... and you think I'm trolling

all of my wut

>>6275938
>>6275936

actually..... https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/563633021837131777

>>6274352
Shit man I love Harry Potter. Its not a wonderful work of writing and its not fucking deep in any sense of the word, but the universe is really immersive and it really puts you in the book.

And yunno its an easy and cozy read. It grows up with the reader as the characters do. And its pretty cool for like book clubs because its simple enough to just talk casually about but "complex" enough where you can pick apart some quotes and scenes and go into them.

>>6275795
>By interest in literature had completely changed

So you went on /lit/ and started to only read Infinite Jest and The Greeks?

>>6279849
J.K Rowling gets so fed up with people asking her plothole questions. Reasonably enough. 80% of them you could figure out your own conclusion without having to ask the author, and the other 20% is basically "Shut the fuck up its magic land"

>>6279630
>which is exactly how I have them, that 1 is better than 2
Shit. That was supposed to be 2>1.

4>3>2>1>>>>>>>>>>>>who cares

>>6275752
Is she like surprised that her butt is there?

>>6281054
I think she's smiling in approval at the sight of her own ass. Which is kinda understandible.

>>6275806
That's my >>6275806
problem with the LOTR movies too.
Haven't read the books, but in the RotK they suddenly remember they have an immortal army in the mountain. Battle for Minas tirith is so good until it shows up.

>>6281077
In the books they btfoed before even reaching the Anduin

I really can't remember them. I did enjoy them when i read them though, although i was a kid and i'm sure i wouldn't enjoy them as much today.

>>6279280

Same way EL James did.

>>6275832
nah, thats just speculation. The series were always focused on kids and teenagers.

>>6274377
which ones?