/lit/ - Literature

>>5180090
I think his works speak volumes to the insecurities we all feel, and the masks we don to make up for them.

He's brilliant, but SOME FAGGOT is convinced he didn't have vampy BDSM session with older women. Fuck that guy

>>5180090
I've only read Ongaku (Música in Spanish, the English version seems to be non-existent but I suppose would translate Music).

I expected a treaty about Japan, Fascism, Manliness and the decay of traditionalism, but what I got was a case of a frigid woman going to a psychoanalyst and only a page on what I expected. Good book, but I expected a lot of different stuff coming from all his hyped opinions on right wing issues.

I am the only person that thinks The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea is his best work.

>>5180253
You're definitely not.

(Not saying that I agree with you, but I've seen plenty of other people express the same sentiment.)

>>5180167
His politics inform his work less literally than that. Mishima was someone whose private life and personal beliefs and political opinions and literary work and physical actions were all very tightly aligned and sort of inseparable. He's not a just novelist who happened to kill himself in a SDF military base or a bodybuilder who wrote some agitprop. You can't pick one facet of Mishima and understand it on its own.

He was kind of a dick, and obviously I wouldn't want to live in the same sort of world he'd want to live in, but easily in my top 10 most fascinating public figures of the 20th century.

Patriotism was so damn moving. Read it in one sitting (which is very easy).

>>5180090
Sun and steel is a must read for anyone with working testicles.

>>5181097
It reminds me of Evola, except Mishima had considerably more style and depth.

>>5180090
You expect me to read something not written by a white man?
lol

>>5180276
Yep, I feel exactly the same about him. The fascination is hard to resist even considering the aspects of him I dislike.

Also OP, I really liked The Sound Of Waves. Now I want to read The Temple Of The Golden Pavilion.

>>5180253
Quite the contrary. Whenever Mishima is discussed, "Sailor" is usually the first work mentioned and discussed. Most times it's the only work discussed.

>>5180090
>What do you think of Mishima, guys?
His mentality appeals to children, and those with the maturity of children.

>>5181637
Confirmed for have never read Mishima. Go back to Dostoevsky, faggot.

>>5181637
AKA self-described gay boys

Just read Sailor as my subway book over the last week.

>tfw Ryuji staring out at the thin strip of sea

>>5181789
>subway book

Sounds depressing

>>5181789

>>5181824
I'm lucky as fuck in that I can tune out almost any noise, so my godawful daily two hour commute is just two hours of reading time. But yeah, ever having to take public transit is in general not the highlight of your day.

What book should I go to next? I don't really know much about Mishima other than Sun & Steel.

>>5181905
Don't cross the streams

Cute manlet and very good writer.

I'm on book two of the Sea of Fertility tetralogy now. There's definitely a lot of romanticizing of suicide throughout.

>>5182203
Yeah, he's not exactly subtle (or complicated).

>>5182181
You sure this isn't Tupac?

>>5182269
How can you really be sure anyone isn't Tupac?

Lel. The manliest man in Japan was gay.

>>5181097
Funny, I want to get that one on the recommendation of someone without working testicles.

>>5181097
>>5182336
I lift weights 3-4 times a week but couldn't get into this book. Every page was just "Hey, guys, me. Btw, me. Oh, and me. Me, me, me. Don't you just love it, oh God, me. ME! Haha, what great fun I'm having. Me.

P.S. Me."

It was banal garbage, really. Does it somehow do a 180º, or do you guys just not see this fundamental element to it all?

>>5182274

Go back to working on your album, milo

>>5182288
manliness =/= sexuality

>>5181120
Evola's stuff any good?

>>5182346
you probably don't "lift weights". You simply resistance train 3-4x a week. Anyways, it doesn't really have anything to do with the act of lifting weights, but people that lift/are into sports/in the army will generally have a easier time grasping what he's talking about.

>>5182336
feminister? she just wants his D, tbh.

>>5182288
is there anything more manly than both physically and sexually dominating another man? I think not.

>>5182388
>you probably don't "lift weights". You simply resistance train 3-4x a week.

I deadlift 4 plate and bench about 320. Tell me again how I don't lift.

Faggot.

>>5182346
>>5182388
Okay, back in the iffy bin till someone convinces me otherwise.

>>5182368
To some it is.

>>5182399
I almost clean your DL you weak faggot. Come back when you're past your 6 months of SS.

>>5182346
>banal
Banal as in... common, usual, shared by other people, typical, repeated from popular folklore?
None apply. You are factually incorrect.

>Does it somehow do a 180º, or do you guys just not see this fundamental element to it all?
It opens with a definition of the work as "confidential criticism," i.e. a fusion of autobiography and essay. That is what it is.

I think this boil needs lancing.
What you are is a prole. You are probably also from a small town. The idea of contemplation is offensive to you. You'd prefer an instruction manual, because, as a prole, you have to keep working or starve. Hence, a low attention span and actual anger at delay from busywork and hustling, because you're a prole, and you'll starve if you don't hustle; books that do not contain down home know how on getting shit done are actually offensive to you because they are almost a threat to your life. Sit still five minutes, and the fear and jitters begin. You consider yourself practical. You probably pick coins out of the gutter and cut coupons. Etc.

>>5182424
>I think this boil needs lancing.
>What you are is a prole. You are probably also from a small town. The idea of contemplation is offensive to you. You'd prefer an instruction manual, because, as a prole, you have to keep working or starve. Hence, a low attention span and actual anger at delay from busywork and hustling, because you're a prole, and you'll starve if you don't hustle; books that do not contain down home know how on getting shit done are actually offensive to you because they are almost a threat to your life. Sit still five minutes, and the fear and jitters begin. You consider yourself practical. You probably pick coins out of the gutter and cut coupons. Etc.

projection

>>5182435
*tips fedora*

>>5182346
Low test beta detected.

In all seriousness though,
>Every page was just "Hey, guys, me. Btw, me. Oh, and me. Me, me, me. Don't you just love it, oh God, me. ME! Haha, what great fun I'm having. Me.
You do realize this is an autobiographical essay right? The description is literally "a memoir of the author's relationship to his body".

>>5182424
Wow this post is embarrassing.

>>5182748
I'm sorry I made you feel that way. But we all must face the truth sometime.

>>5182774
Even if you can't feel it that's okay, the rest of us are embarrassed FOR you.

>>5182792
The guys watching you type, and soothingly stroking your shoulder when you read something upsetting?

>>5180090
Mishima's fantastic. /lit/ seems to have stopped having its love affair with him, which is a shame, because I'd much rather have a million threads about him than about Stirner.

The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea is brilliant, and Patriotism is one of my favorite short stories.