/lit/ - Literature

Not everyone writes to exceed some standard you just set for them.

Personally, I write because the panties drop when you say to pseudointellectual hipster chicks, "Oh, not only do I draw, I'm also a writer, let me show you my latest short story".

Damn, I'm charming.

>>5175969
>post-modern book
And into the trash it goes

Worst piece of shit I've ever wasted my time on.

>oh the flippery floop Germanic-etymology obscure word Frenchword Ireland reference I'm currently thinking right now what a cool motif bro nother Germanic word fart. Ima genus

>>5175969
>modern/postmodern
Good thing we've already had the perfect new sincerity novel and the perfect metamodern novel. This is the postmetamodern era.

>>5175989
You obviously didn't read the book, or you looked at the words and didn't comprehend anything so you took the edgiest opinions from prior Ulysses threads and this is your life now.

>>5175988
its a modernist classic, you dope

His writing is a great milestone in modernist thought and his lexical density quantitatively astonishing, but the more troubling questions of modernity and coping with our day and age pervade many other books that Joyce stylistic voice cannot sincerely touch.

>>5175997
>modernist classic
So much better.
Oh wait, nope. Into the trash it goes!

>>5175988
>2deep4me

Go suck Dickens little dick and don't forget to flick lick his pip

>>5175969
Woolf was influenced by it while writing Mrs Dalloway. Even though she said she was (after the first 2-3 chapters, which were amusing) puzzled, bored, irritated, & disillusioned as by a queasy undergraduate scratching his pimples.

captcha: powned facts
lel

it really drops off after the 4th chapter or so.

>>5175996
Depends what you mean by "read". I looked at every single word. I certainly wasn't going to look up every word not in my lexicon.

And nah, I've never been to /lit/ before. I like it here though. But I also like to say Ulysses sucked cuz I can and it's true.

>>5175989

>another ulysses thread, another analvexed pleb getting BTFO

every single day

>>5176001
*tips fedora*

>>5176000
see
>>5176001

Woolf probably read the book during one of her low's. I know for a fact she wrote Dalloway on an extended low.
What a batshit woman she was.

>>5176005
>Hades
>not the greatest writing in English history

wow


>>5176006
>>>/pol/

you things stay in your hole

it's one of those books that young people feel like they have to praise or write off as if anyone gives a shit about their dumb opinions.

me, i thought it was alright. there's some interesting stuff in there. could have been better. not a "classic."

>>5176016
>Spamming hyperlinks because you disagree with someone

>>>/v/

>>5176006

>I certainly wasn't going to look up every word not in my lexicon.

Stop pretending like you're any measure of discerning reader. You aren't. This line just gave your hand away.

>>5176019
ur reel patrichè m8

>>5175969
>Ulysses is everything a modern/post-modern book should be.
>Dogshit is everything a shit/turd should be.

>What compels people to continue writing after they have read this book?
Mebbe they want to write real books instead on 'modern/post-modern' trash?

>>5176122

>>Dogshit is everything a shit/turd should be.

oh shit fukin REKT em bro gr8 post

>>5175969
>nice opinion

>mfw watching all the Joyce stans in college dress up for Bloomsday and walk around in costume embarassing themselves

>>5176651
lmao

i just fart on people

>>5176009
Woolf read Ulysses when she was writing Dalloway. She's said that it felt like the work of some impatient and excitable pimply college student or something to that effect.

>>5176708
>>5176009
>tfw my post gets ignored
>>5176002

>>5176719
Sorry, anon. Here have some attention.

>>5176727

>>5175969
>What compels people to continue writing after they have read this book?

Felt like that after War and Peace.

But we must do what we can with what we have. You have to strive to get better every day; to at least sit down and write five days a week; to read and sketch and cross out and sketch again and revise and rewrote, but keep going forward. Every writer in history has felt the breath of the past masters biting their own trembling necks, and yet the history of literature never stopped since the dawn of the written word (although there were, naturally, years of better crops and vintages of higher excellence).

There is that dreadful feeling that what you did was bad, the disgusting sensation that invades you when you read what you wrote and see the cracks, inflamed blackheads, varicose veins, cellulite, bruises and wounds on it. But then you must be patient and correct the flaws. And when you don’t know how to proceed, go back to your masters: read them, not to idolize them in an eternal state of submissive fear, but to learn their technics and use their solutions and the answers of their craft. If the writers of the past did some things in a magnificent way, steal from them. By all means inject your own style and voice on your work, but keep stealing what is good until the end of your life: when you engraft foreign shoots you in your work they will mutate, and plagiarism will not be what you'll be doing.

If we keep ourselves desiring for this man’s art and that man’s reach the fear and anxiety will freeze us in a perpetual cocoon of inactivity and coffin of frustration.

>>5176009

IIRC she actually praises Joyce in one of her essays

>>5176777
>what is intellectual masturbation

>>5176783
She did. First impressions don't age well. She was also disappointed she can't publish the book with Hogarth but she had to let it go, what with the whole obscenity trial.

Ulysses is one of the most atrocious books ever written, but you're right OP, there's no point in writing anymore because atrocity has become the standard. If you want to write today you have to write schlock that pushes a political / social agenda through subtext, or, if you insist on being highbrow, dehumanized filthy garbage that brutalizes the emotions and turns you into an automaton, with a whinging sentimentalism AT BEST.

And it's because the wealthy people in society run everything INCLUDING LITERATURE and have decided to dehumanize and demoralize us. Modern literature is a complete hoax. It's poison sold as fashionable and intellectual.

>>5175997
moron

who do you think decides what a classic is?

>>5176024
That sentence ain't even grammatical nigga wut u sayin?

>>5175969
It's incredibly impressive but aside from a few sections (especially "Circe") it's not very fun to read. It feels written more or less so that people will have the opinion that it's the greatest work of art ever, and 100 years later, it looks like Joyce succeeded.

Congrats to him, if that's what he wanted, which I think he did.

>>5176784

Why?

>>5177507
Those are similarly my sentiments.

>>5175983
Narccists always think they're better at things than they really are.

I see why you can only attract pseudointellectuals/

>>5177722
project much? His post was literally saying he didn't think he was particularly great at writing, he just did it for the chicks. Your attempted insult has no weight.

>>5177507
>It feels written more or less so that people will have the opinion that it's the greatest work of art ever, and 100 years later

I like Beethoven's 9th, War and Peace and The Marriege of Figaro more :3

>>5177730
He said "Damn, I'm charming."

Read the fucking comment first, and/or stop pretending not to be that guy.

>>5175969
yes

le epic fart fetish author meme

>>5177760
But I am charming. My ability to attract shallow women is proof of that, not evidence against it.

>>5179692
Kill yourself

>>5175993
And what are those?

>>5179797
>i cannot into sarcasm

>>5175969
LE NORA
FART IN ME FACE NORA LE

>>5179803
I was sort of expecting Infinite Jest for new sincerity.

>>5179814
You can expect whatever you want. Maybe we'll have some sort of consensus in fifty years.

>>5177346
>anon
>inventor of the ungrammatical sentence