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>>5133358
IIRC the arab just brandished the knife from a distance.

Besides, that's not the point

>>5133358
Meursault was too tired to mention that detail and the room was too hot.

>>5133358
This is a book about a narcaleptic who is always hot, right?

He is always hot because he died right before the book starts and is recounting the last days of his life from hell.

>>5133401
It could also be because it's Algeria

>>5133358
Because Meursault was too indifferent to mention it.

>>5133358
If you're asking literal plot questions you've likely missed the point.

>>5133650
No. There is no reason his lawyer should not have used that as a defense. Plot has nothing to do with it.

>>5133660
The incident with the knife was a separate encounter

>>5133358
It was. His actual crime and guilt/innocence were secondary to the crime of his abnormality, that was the entire point.

>>5133683
Yes. But the Arab still had the knife on him when Meursault returned. He brandished it, the glare blinded Meursault. There were no witnesses to the "murder" IIRC so the cops would have found the body and seen that the Arab did have a knife.

>>5133691
You missed the entire point

>>5133691
The book isn't about defense law. It's not To Kill A Mockingbird. The minutiae of Meursault's criminal defense isn't important.

>>5133703
Well, what is it about?

>>5133705
Whatever you want it to be about!

>>5133705
In a commentary on l'Etranger, Camus said: "In our society, a man who doesn't cry at his mother funeral might end up being sentenced to death". It's about how Meursault is condemned for not caring more than for anything he actually did. Perhaps.

>>5133705
Then how can someone miss the point?

>>5133699
>>5133703
No. I got the point. I'm still asking these questions, because whether it did anything or not his defense should have been self defense.

>>5133358
He shot him several times when he was on the floor.

>>5133716
So then it could be about the trial?

>>5133401
That is honestly the stupidest interpretation of the book I have ever heard.

>>5133739
It's the cleverest one I've ever heard....

>>5133739
lol, I know right. He didn't die before it started. He died during the confrontation with the Arab. Part 1 closes with his death. Part 2 is hell.

>>5133691
Self defense is illegal in Europe.

>>5133888
>Algeria
>Europe

>>5133888
If this is true then fuck ever going to Europe. Doesn't it take place in Africa, though?

>>5133903
Its somewhat true in some European countries, basically they decided you can't go to town on someone for entering your property and that a degree of 'reasonable force' has to be used to detain someone. Americans naturally see that as wrong, as they value property rights above all others. Its really just a cultural thing.

>>5133894
Algeria was a part of France at the time (which explains why some French are nostalgic of this country)

>>5133919
Yes, but it wasn't part of Europe. India under British rule was not Europe, neither was Algeria under French.

>>5133401
He's always hot because he can't interpret emotional distress until the end of the book so it appears through physical discomfort.

It's outright said in the last chapter.

>>5133930
I think you misread his post. He didn't write "Algeria was a French colony" (like India was a British colony). He wrote "Algeria was a part of France" (thinks of Scotland for Great Britain, or Alaska for the US). People born in Algeria in 1945 were legally born in France.

>>5133952
You mean like cloning?

This is the worst thread on /lit/.

>>5134072
Not even close.

>>5134072
Ayn Rand threads were worst.

>>5133374
tittered like a little girl.

The people saying OP is missing the point are missing the point.

>>5134251
The people saying the people saying the OP is missing the point are missing the point.

>>5134275
You dun goofed.

>french laws
>meursalt is white and the other guy isnt
And there you go OP

>>5133740
Thats because youve been brainwashed by faggots who thin the blue curtains means something. That interpretation is literally headcanon/fanfiction

>>5133745
What if it is all a dream? xD

>>5134571
This.
The court shows a tremendous amount of prejudice towards Meursault because of political reasons. A white man can't kill an arab and get away with it.

>>5133358
That's the whole concept of the book, he wasn't judged base on the incident, he got judge because of his personality

I know OP, you could almost say it's quite (with emphasis) Absurd.

>>5135097
get out

>>5135113
Don't be so absurd.

>>5133358
I thought the point was that the reader starts thinking "just claim self defense", and Mersault didn't even come anywhere near thinking about it.

Who hates deontology? No one knows!

Pussy European anti-fun laws