/lit/ - Literature

>>5130629
>Russel's chapter on him in History of Western

kek, russel h8s continentalism

>>5130636
Ok

>>5130629
I'm going to admit ignorance in advance and ask that you tell me about your relationship with your boss so that I can analyse it for you, it will probably sound like I know what I'm talking about and that will be good enough.

>>5130636
He's justified, continentalism sucks.

>>5130660
What is exactly continentalism?

>>5130660
This

>>5130629
What are the necessary conditions for a boss to be your boss? Is it simply because you view him as such? Because he directs your labor? Because he views himself as lord over you?

Essentially, Hegel is unravelling the nature of power dynamics in this sort of relation between two consciousness. You boss's "bossness" is defined by how you each view the other. Your desires and will are negated in your subservience to his, but actually, Hegel says, your labor is not property you can just give away. It's proof that the laborer exists. Thereby you, as the worker come to a self-realization, you see your boss as an equal, not as a master. However, the boss's identity as such hinges on his ability to direct your labor. Hence, once you have this self-recognition, you no longer need to recognize his "bossness," but can work toward your own ends, and hence it is realized that the master is actually the slave. A complete reversal.

>>5130660
You are literally so dumb I can't even. Hegel is Aristotle tier.

Please die tripfriend.

>>5130629
Okay a few pre-dating information points
> Hegel saw that we verified our existence through others acknowledging us
> We eat animals to verify existence of other beings, which doesn't bring the ultimate existential verification
> When two self-consciousnesses meet, they engage in a struggle for death
> Sometimes the losing party does not die but is rather forced to acknowledge the other one in unequal terms -> becomes the slave to the master

About Slave-Master dialectic
> Ultimately a poor choice for all parties involved
> Slaves are in better position for masters, because Master's existence does not get equal acknowledgement, and because Slaves can be inspired by the freedom of the Master and understand their own mortality and futility
> Slaves can break free, but it cannot be done through slaves' own thought alone (I.E Stoicism doesn't break the bond, just helps bear the pain of slavery)
> A Being completely free of master/slave bonds is an Utopian vision Hegel envisions
> Hegel envisions society in which the members are acknowledged equally (Hegel's envisioned equality =/= how we envision it) as the ultimate existential solution and way to achieve Spirit

>>5130666
It's another major western philosophical school.

Unlike Analytic School of Philosophy, it's not unified. Continental philosophy is collection of other schools just Structuralism/Phenomenology/Existentialism/Marxism and so on and so on. Basic tenents of Continentalism reject the scientific way of analyzing Philosophy which analytics use, and the existence of logic separate of language.

continentals are closer to plate, analytics to aristotle

>>5130629
Read The White Castle if you want to understand its implications and uses.

>>5130668
>why would the history of an idea be relevant to an idea itself?
TOP FUCKING KEK

Are you like some sort of next-level troll or do analytics actually believe things this asinine unironically?

>>5130672
>Saying Hegel writes that subservience negates the slave's desires
>Saying Hegel writes that slaves view themselves as equals to their masters

>>5130666
Real philosophy.

>>5130629
This is a SFW board. If you want to talk about S&M type shit, I will kindly ask you to go somewhere else.