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>"Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid." Richard and Kahlan frowned even more. "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."

From: Wizard's First Rule, by Terry Goodkind, published by Tor Books.

Go ahead and try to tell me fantasy isn't literature, I dare you, I double-dare you motherfucker.

>> No.2775501

I'm guessing that means you think that passage is deep. Have fun with that.

>> No.2775506

>"Do not be trapped by the need to achieve anything. This way, you achieve everything."

Hayt, the ghola

>> No.2775507

I really enjoy Goodkind's work. I wish he had more books.

>> No.2775508

Not OP, but WFR isn't really deep, it's just incredibly true.

>> No.2775526

>>2775501

Are you really so deluded and uneducated that you can't see that Terry Goodkind was expressing Taoist philosophy through a work of fantasy?

Every time a new genre develops you have pretentious jackasses attacking it out of fear and arrogance.

>> No.2775550

It's a shame that the series went downhill three fourths of the way through

>> No.2775585

Do adults actually read this kind of stuff?

Have you ever wondered why it is you who make these kind of thread and the unending >tfw no girlfriend

Connect the dots, neckbeards.

>> No.2775591

>>2775585

OP here

>implying I'm a neckbeard

Honestly you have no idea who I am or what I do.

>> No.2775594

>>2775526
If only Taoism hadn't said it better 2000 years ago.

>> No.2775600

>>2775591
I could hazard a guess that you like Fantasy books, Sci Fi and MMORPGs. You feel increasingly unable to perform or survive as a functional human being in society, and less and less able to assert manliness in your daily life.

You retreat to safety of a controllable bubble of Sci Fi, escapism and more escapism. You might have even dabbled in Critical Theory and cherry-picked some continental philosophy to satisfy juvenile desires of identity.

You either have no job, or a meaningless, unsatisfying one that neither challenges you or offers and kind of mental rewards.

You have no real track record with women to speak of, and perhaps have even convinced yourself you've no need of women.

You are a level 5 neckbeard candidate in his mid twenties.

>> No.2775607

>I could hazard a guess that you like Fantasy books, Sci Fi and MMORPGs

Right, wrong, and wrong.

>> No.2775611

>>2775600

And wrong about everything else too. I'm a normal white kid who gets laid and has a job and got his bachelor's degree when he was 19.

>> No.2775620

>>2775600

In fact, the very fact that you thought you could know that much about an anonymous person simply because he points out Taoist philosophy in fantasy novels, suggests that you are some sort of aspie.

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>>2775600

You should work in a theatre.

>> No.2775617

if this a troll thread, then I'm just here to say that GoT is shit, you're all fags, and Rothfuss is a fucking hack

get taste plebs

>> No.2775622

“It's true, is that,” said Nanny Ogg, earnestly. “How many times have you thrown a magic ring into the deepest depths of the ocean and then, when you get home and have a nice bit of turbot for your tea, there it is?”
They considered this in silence.
“Never,” said Granny irritably. “And nor have you.”

>> No.2775624

>>2775617

>GoT

What has that got to do with books?

>> No.2775630
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2775630

>Terry Goodkind
>Not the Any Rand of Middle-Earth
Seriously, OP, get some fucking standards. And stop fueling your own delusions. I guess in your fantasy world Terry Goodkind is "deep" and a "good author", but this is reality . . . or as close to 4chan can get to reality.
I read tons of fucking fantasy, too much, but at least I don't delude myself by saying it's deep
>>2775600
>Implying 4chan isn't all of those.
Oh great dubs-lord, we know ye art the greatest.
>>2775611
>Bachelor's at nineteen
That's probably when you dropped out of community college.

>> No.2775634

>Terry Goodkind
>"deep" fantasy

Do you even R Scott Bakker?

>> No.2775648

>>2775630

I know you're trolling but nope, it was a legit private four year liberal arts institution and I got a 30,000$ scholarship to be able to afford to go there.

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2775652

>>2775648
>>2775648
>Liberal Arts

>> No.2775659

>>2775648
>legit
>private four year liberal arts institution (aka care homes for overprotected middle-class white children)

Pick one

>> No.2775664

>>2775607
>>2775611
>>2775620
>>2775621

>Samefag episode 2: Butthurt and trolled in /lit/

>> No.2775675

>>2775497

Just chiming in to say that holy fuck is that cover a mess

>> No.2775703

>>2775675
No shit, every American book cover is a fucking mess.

>> No.2775732

>>2775664

Wrong.

>> No.2775752

OP here. This thread went completely to shit. Here are the posts that were actually me.

>>2775732
>>2775648
>>2775620
>>2775611
>>2775607
>>2775591
>>2775526
>>2775506
>>2775497

This board would be so much better without the childish trolling game.

>> No.2775775

>>2775752
>Screams "troll" and throws fit
>Claims that we're the only childish ones
You are on 4chan, so you should expect to surrounded by people as mature as you.
And how did the thread "Go to shit" when it started with a shit OP about a shit author.
Just delete this farce of a thread.

>> No.2775798

>>2775752
You are demonstrating some of the 'failure to assert control' behaviour outlined in >>2775600

Time to retreat into some childish fantasy book/RPG where you are a level 9001 wizard and not a weak specimen of a human.

>>2775732 and all the butthurt samefags were also you, OP. Now who is childish?

>> No.2775811

OP here, I don't know how to delete the thread so I'll just sage my own thread.

>> No.2775822

>>2775811

Actual OP here, I do know how to delete a thread and I'm leaving it here because it's fucking pathetic and it shows how retarded this board has become.

>> No.2775879

>>2775497
OP, fantasy IS literature.

But using Terry Goodkind as an example is like saying, "See Pigs ARE food" while displaying a bowl full of disembodied, shit filled intestines.

>> No.2775999

>>2775822
ACTUAL OP HERE. Fuck you guys, I'm never coming back. I get nothing but trolled and it isn't good for my anxiety.

>> No.2776005

Fantasy is literature. Terry Goodkind is not. Fuck you, OP.

>>2775999
Fuck you. Seriously. I'm not trolling you. Go to hell. Terry Goodkind is fucking terrible. He's the fucking worst fantasy author and fuck you for pretending that he's literature or that he's the best fantasy author, and also fuck you for liking him.

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2776014

So... Should i read Terry Goodwing or should i just read books on Taoism?

>> No.2776018

>>2776014
Goodkind*

>> No.2776017

ACTUAL REAL OP HERE.

I'M SICK OF THIS SHIT. YOU PEOPLE SUCK.

I AM A HUGE FAGGOT, SOMEONE PLEASE RAPE MY FACE

>> No.2776022

>>2776014
I didn't even finish reading the sentence, the answer is always that you should read something other than Goodkind

>> No.2776023

>>2776014
No, no one should ever read goodkind.

I'm not trying to be a troll here. I'm honestly just trying to save you some time and effort.

>> No.2776031

Fantasy and SF can be literature as long as they are about literature, not focussed on the Fantasy or the Science.
Like Iain Banks' shit, that's literature.

>> No.2776034

ITT: OP is punished for thinking Goodkind is edgy or deep.

>or even good.

>> No.2776038

OP here again, okay how do I delete a thread guys? This is effecting my mid day nap.

>as if Mom's hoovering doesn't sound like a million watt gigadildo from down here in the basement.

>> No.2776041

>>2776031
even that's kind of too restrictive. it's crazy how pedantic people are about what counts as ~~~LITERATURE~~~ especially because, you know, shit, it's completely groundless

its like the process is "these things are bad. so they are not literature. ALSO anything that shares any surface qualities, no matter how inessential, can't be literature". there's no real logic there, you know

>> No.2776044

Richard and Kahlan? Is this the book series that gave birth to the monstrosity of a TV series named Legend of the Seeker?

>> No.2776047

>>2776044
yes. also it's unimaginably worse than the TV series.

seriously, you have no idea.

>> No.2776059

In the dark, the chicken thing let out a low chicken cackle laugh.
It hadn't come from whre she expected the chicken to be. It was behind her.
"Please, I mean no harm," she called into the darkness. "I mean no disrespect. I will leave you to your business now, if that's all right with you."
She took another shuffling step toward the door. She moved carefully, slowly, in case the chicken thing was in the way. She didn't want to bump into it and make it angry. She mustn't underestimate it.
Kahlan had on any number of occasions thrown herself with ferocity against seemingly invincible foes. She knew well the value of a resolute violent attack. But she also somehow knew beyond doubt that this adversary could, if it wanted, kill her as easily as she could wring a real chicken's neck. If she forced a fight, this was one she would lose.

...

Her instincts screamed that such action would be the most foolish, dangerous thing she could do. Both the Bird Man and Richard said this was not a chicken. She no longer doubted them. But she might have no choice.
If she started, it would be a fight to the death. She held no illusion as to her chances. Nonetheless, she might be forced to fight it. With her last breath, if need be, as her father had taught her.
The chicken snatched a bigger beakful of her skin along with the vein and twisted. Last warning.
Kahlan carefully moved her trembling hand away. The chicken-thing cackled softly with satisfaction.

>> No.2776066

"Stop the hate! Stop the hate!" the people chanted as they locked arms. They had no idea how much hate was raging through Richard. He drew the Sword of Truth. The wrath of its magic didn't come out with it, but he had enough of his own. He slowed to a trot.

"Move!" Richard called as he bore down on the people. A plump, curly-haired woman took a step out from the others. Her round face was red with anger as she screamed. "Stop the hate! No war! Stop the hate! No war!"

"Move or die!" Richard yelled as he picked up speed. The red-faced woman shook her fleshy fist at Richard and his men, leading an angry chant. "Murderers! Murderers! Murderers!"

On his way past her, gritting his teeth as he screamed with the fury of the attack begun, Richard took a powerful swing, lopping off the woman's head and upraised arm. Strings of blood and gore splashed across the faces behind her even as some still chanted their empty words. The head and loose arm tumbled through the crowd. A man mad the mistake of reaching for Richard's weapon, and took the full weight of a charging thrust.

Men behind Richard hit the line of evil's guardians with unrestrained violence. People armed only with their hatred for moral clarity fell bloodied, terribly injured, and dead. The line of people collapsed before the merciless charge. Some of the people, screaming their contempt, used their fists to attack Richard's men. They were met with swift and deadly steel.

At the realization that their defense of the Imperial Order's brutality would actually result in consequences to themselves, the crowd began scattering in fright, screaming curses back at Richard and his men.

>MATURE! ADULT! EDGY!

>> No.2776247

Come on guys this isn't funny any more. How do I delete this thread?