/lit/ - Literature

>>22947737
What do you mean other Schopenhauer stuff? This IS Schopenhauer. This is what he's known for, his magnum opus.

>>22947737
accept it op, life is a struggle and you must accept it and use the reality around you to make yourself powerful. step beneath your enemies and be greater than humanly conceivable.

>>22947737
you didn't do the prerequisite reading.

>>22947952
Isn't that just On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason

>>22948186
yeah you JUST need to read and internalize that and Kant.

>>22947737
>life is... le BAD

>>22948216
what even his response to this anyways? be a buddha faggot and do nothing or just get into hobbies and arts? what shitty faggot solutions, its so fucking over we're literally born to suffer lol.

>>22947952
uh, I guess... what is the prerequisite reading?

>>22948186
On the Fourfold Root of the Principle, then Kant. what do I pick from Kant?

>>22949270
The critique of pure reason, but to understand the problem that it is trying to solve you need to read Hume, and to get the problem for Hume you need to read Locke/Descartes/Spinoza/Leibniz. And to understand where they come from you need to start with the Greeks. So, you should start with the Greeks

>>22947848
Most people read his ramblings from Parerga and Paralipomena (if not chopped up into other books like "Studies in Pessimism"), so they just think he's Mr. Sad-sideburns and are blind-sided to find out he was a dedicated Kantian.
>what is this i thought philosophy was just writing down grim thoughts and stuff, what's a thing-in-itself

>>22949299
what the fuck was his point then? no one here apparently understands what the fuck was he actually trying to teach? he kept bitching about life which is fucking true retard life sucks but what can we do about life sucking? how can we move on, no one gives a fucking shit about some kant schizo babble junk.

>>22949323
you can't do anything, that's sort of the point.

>no one gives a fucking shit about some kant schizo babble junk
you are mistaken.

>>22947737
it's fucking annoying his most valuable and intellectually developed book is so hard to find irl. it's always the aphorisms

>>22949327
what do you mean i can't do anything? then whats the point of anything if i can't do anything? you just sound like a fucking pussy man, go fucking fight in a war, BE ALIVE, DO SOMETHING FOR PEOPLE. Fucking people are so fucking apathetic and have no passion or love for ANYTHING!

>>22947737
buch of dead male 0 pussy cope
ditch this incel shit, get a job, talk to women

>>22949380
why are you even here

>>22949383
pussy is the meaning of life for a man, get pussy and have kids please

>>22949383
you do realize that 99% of books aren't bitter sexless rants, right?

>>22949384
no.

>>22949386
you do realize this is a literature board, right?

>>22949420
deny it all you want fag, you're useless if you have no kids, your immortality will vanish

>>22949384
>

>>22949459
>you're useless
good.

>your immortality will vanish
better yet.

>>22949459
There is no immortality in the path of the ancestors, there is only death after death. Immortality must sought beyond this earth, on the path of the gods.

>>22949471
>>22949474
>telling people to have sex and socialize is bad now
>i'm wrong, i'm literally wrong for telling you to do basic human shit that will improve your life.

you faggots are such hopeless retards, why do you even exist then? well at least your shit genes will be out of our pool :)

>>22949484
you don't see the future of our tech man, we will go beyond our flesh and blood but we must keep reproducing to create a future.

>>22949486
Why do you reduce the meaning of life to twisty little strands of acids and bases. Do you not believe in a higher reality

>>22949495
Men were able to go beyond the flesh and blood long before we made fancy calculators.

>>22949331
What? I can find the English version (with that exact cover) in my balkan shithole quite commonly, let alone the translated version in my language.

>>22949486
keep your retarded advice for yourself. this is a board for people who want to talk about books. what sort of a moron are you to come here and tell people to stop reading and do other things instead?

>>22949327
>you can't do anything

>>22948237
THERE IS NO SOLUTION
all those things he suggested were meant to lessen your suffering not eliminate it.

>>22949486
LOL

>>22947848
He's more known for his essays. They're also what made him famous later in life, and up until WWI every well-to-do German family had a copy of "Aphorisms on the Wisdom of Life" in their home, not the World as Will and Representation.

is "parerga and paralipomena" as a first read from schopi a good pick? using this thread because it's relevant.

>>22950782
It's definitely his most accessible work, but I don't think it's a good introduction, because the rest of his stuff is all hardcore post-Kantian idealism. If you don't mind secondary lit, pic related is a pretty good intro.

>>22949500
There isn't a higher reality than that anon, we need to evolve, we need to grow and change to understand our universe.

>>22949542
have fun not having sex and reading your useless books bahahaha, this is why smart people never reproduce, we could of have had a supreme society if you smartfags just fuck already

>>22949618
so i'm gonna fucking suffer for the rest of my life no matter what? how are you people comfortable with this? fuck, you guys are built like something

>>22951777
One can read and fuck. It isn’t an either/or. Nuance is completely lost upon nu/lit/

>>22949516
that's cool. I live in australia and most academic philosophy texts have huge import costs so they're either not sold at regular retail stores or like $50-60

>>22949618
i want a solution man im scared im such a faggot i cant deal with this shit anymore

>>22947737
I always liked the title, it has a hint of poetry.

>>22949367
you would like nietzsche then

>>22952218
Nietzsche was a loser who got owned too, fucking retarded died of stds while being raped by his looney sister and rejected by a woman he loved, not fair, life makes no sense, no matter how hard you try to understand it, it keeps fucking all of us over.

>>22947737
pajeet metaphysics, life le bad, women bad
required reading for any r9k user

>>22947737
>this feels different than other S. Stuff
No it doesn't. Its also his seminal work

>>22952227
Just look into Buddha's core teachings and practice calm and insight meditation. The practice is key.

>>22952262
women are bad tho, they're just playthings for reproduction lol

>>22952328
i never said he was wrong, but hes still the quintessential incel philosopher

>>22947737
I know what you mean here, anon. After the technical first book the follow-up essays in the larger second book will return you to what you're accustomed to. A similar shock occurs to anyone who's read many Nietzsche volumes and then decides to pick up The Will to Power. For what it's worth, Tocqueville's Democracy in America is formatted very much like The World as Will and Representation, a small(er) dry technical beginning, many topical essays to conclude.

>>22950782
Just read WAWAR Vol. 1. Yes, it’s harder than his other essays but you won’t properly understand the weight of his other essays without his metaphysics. I’m not saying you won’t get anything from them, but reading his reasoning behind these conclusions is important.

>>22947737
This is what happens when you actually read the principal work of an individual instead of just supplementary/secondary sources and quotes online. Congrats, OP. However, now you’ll be faced with the hell of arguing with psueds who, knowing only select quotes from online images and nothing of Schop’s metaphysical framework or his views on aesthetics, will simply bash him for being le sad pessimist. This has already occurred ITT and, by the way, occurs with every writer/thinker in existence.

In short: you have actually read, something which hardly anyone else with opinions has done.

>>22954096
that's just because he is, he was always a sad bitter faggot whos mom didn't love him and a father drowned, had a life of a rich trust fund only to use it on his attempt to understand the human condition. ultimately failing with useless solutions but giving us insight and consideration of how we should view the world.

>>22954123
Look, there’s one right there! lol

>>22954141
fucking faggot not reading his faggot books, eat my ass bitch

>>22947952
>can't read schop without reading kant
>can't read kant without reading hume
>can't read hume without reading locke
>can't read locke without reading... all the way down to plato
>can't read plato without reading the pre-socratics
>can't read the pre-socratics cause they've been lost to history
>kill self cause can never read philosophy

>>22954233
you can't kill yourself unless you're reading about kill yourself first

>>22954096
I wouldn't read a single word of Schopenhauer, I would listen to what Schopenhauer has to say and that's what no one did.

>>22951927
Here in shithole, it's easilly available in a lot of public libraries.

>>22950619
His stuff about reading and writing is perfect, never read his big boy stuff

>>22949288
Man, I love philosophy

>>22954321
Holy based

>>22949299
I only read "the art of writing" so to me he is le based you should only read good books and throw translations in the trash man

>>22949380
You can do all that, go home and read, retard

>>22954410
pussy no pussy bhahahaa