/lit/ - Literature

>>22678665
who is this hot young man?

>>22678665
Why? :)

>>22678682
EPIC!

>>22678665
because without it it breads godless demons

>>22678665
There are more important things than being "useful".

>>22678671

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>>22678665
The point of philosophy is to be sought in its very uncertainty. The man who has no tincture of philosophy goes through life imprisoned in the prejudices derived from common sense, from the habitual beliefs of his age or his nation, and from convictions which have grown up in his mind without the co-operation or consent of his deliberate reason. To such a man the world tends to become definite, finite, obvious; common objects arouse no questions, and unfamiliar possibilities are contemptuously rejected. As soon as we begin to philosophize, however, we find that even the most everyday things lead to problems to which only incomplete answers can be given. Philosophy, though unable to tell us with certainty which is the true answer to the doubts that it raises, is able to suggest many possibilities, which enlarge our thoughts and free them from the tyranny of custom. Thus, while diminishing our feeling of certainty as to what things are, it greatly increases our knowledge as to what they may be; it removes the somewhat arrogant dogmatism of those who have never traveled into the region of liberating doubt, and it keeps alive our sense of wonder by showing familiar things in an unfamiliar aspect.

>>22678665
Philosophy degrees are.
But Prussian style schooling isn't as utilitarian as people think either

>>22678665
>philosophy is useless
What is this statement based on?

>>22678689
More important with what goal in mind? And does being something other than useful aid in achieving that goal? Sounds like it would be useful then!

>>22678686
>science is... VELMA

>>22678711
>;
wanker

>>22678686
I am a nihilistic STEMfag and I agree with this pic

>>22678741
Not everything is a mere means to an end, some things are good in themselves, not in light of some extrinsic goal.

>>22678747
>filtered this hard
>>>/sci/

>>22678665
imagine being you and never needing to think about what you're going to do about something. imagine always asking the same person with a funny name. imagine if the only thing that changes is how much people hate you. now stop imagining and assign an image to all these things.

It is

Nothing is useful.

>>22678686
ah... industrial pollution, the destruction of the natural world... and velma of course

>>22678665
My girlfriend (also Russian) said this to me the other day, and my response was
>So is art. I still need both.

>>22678794
Nothing isn't that useful.

>>22678827
>So is art. I still need both

>>22678840
wtf does this even mean

>>22678840
It's the right answer, dumbass. Even Russians need reminding what life is about sometimes.

>>22678835
No things are either useless or useful.

>>22678665
Tell them that usefulness is a plebeian disposition made by people who contribute nothing to society. If they continue to assert their crypto-American bourgeois opinions, I backhand them like the slave they are.

>>22678665
>useless
After reading pessimist philosophy I gave up my communist beliefs, my religious beliefs, expectations for a happy life etc.

Pessimistic philosophy woke me up from sleep. And told me to stop gaslighting my self in believing this live, love, laugh shit. It saved me from arranged marriage(which implies wage slavery for whole life and most outrageous baggage and transference of guilt) and whole life of more and more family nonsense. It showed me the futility of human toil and limits of understanding.

There you go. Philosophy was very "useful" for me.

>>22678847
It's an ancient relic from the fall of Christendom form dozens and dozens of months ago.
I think he might be identifying with the long vanquished foes and throwing this meme up as some sort of defense. Apparently you've wounded his pride somehow.

>>22678665
https://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c?si=-0hXaV-_kxukf1iW

>>22678863
i just thought it sounds like an r/atheism tier phrase lol, i dont even disagree with it

>>22678665
>filtered lmao

Armpits. That is all.

>>22678760
illiterate or esl?

>>22678827
Yeah I agree with other anon. This is a weak midwit response. You belong on this site. I dont. Goodbye

>>22678861
What country are you from where they have those?

>>22678903
The majority of philosophy is autismal language games. We're entering the age of cyberpunk where the subjects of neuroscience and machine learning are a million times more important, interesting, and even philosophically relevant.

>>22678883
?

>>22678943
good morning saars

>>22678665
I read a bunch of philosophical texts and listened to a bunch of philosophical lectures to come to the same conclusion I had before I had done any of that. I understood so that I could then disregard.

>>22678665
shoot yourself

>>22678665
"I concur."

>>22678711
saved

>>22678943
>>22678711
i really hate how people just dismiss the importance of philosophy

There is a science whose subject matter is a category of ideas. Today, in our colleges, this science has sunk to the lowest point in its history. Its teachers have declared that it has no questions to ask, no method to follow, no answers to offer. As a result, it is disappearing —losing its identity, its intelligibility, its students, and the last vestiges of its once noble reputation. No one —among the intellectuals or the general public— would suspect any longer that this science could be relevant to human life or action. Yet this science determines the destiny of nations and the course of history. It is the source of a nation’s frame of reference and code of values, the root of a people’s character and culture, the fundamental cause shaping men’s choices and decisions in every crucial area of their lives. It is the science which directs men to embrace this world or to seek out some other that is said to transcend it —which directs them to reason or superstition, to the pursuit of happiness or of self-sacrifice, to production or starvation, to freedom or slavery, to life or death. It is the science which made the difference between the East and the West, between the Middle Ages and the Renaissance, between the Founding Fathers of the new continent and the Adolf Hitlers of the old. It is the science which had to be destroyed, if the catastrophes of our time were to become possible.
The science is philosophy.

Why even respond at all? Even if you have an airtight defense, reality is not actually achieved by consensus and dialectics are bullshit. I don't care if plebs with minds unknowable to me find my mind unknowable to themselves.
Elitism is an insulation against the schizophrenia of democratic society.

You know how alternative medicine becomes "medicine" when it works?

Philosophy that worked became a bunch of stuff absorbed into a bunch of fields and is no longer called "philosophy". Cognitive sciences etc.

>>22678665
Philosophy is what gives an answer to what "use" even is. Why do or care about anything? It's Philosophy that gives the answer to that.

>>22679142
the only right answer ITT. If they claim something, it's on them to prove it, otherwise it's all ramblings of an incompetent fool that are not worth listening to.

>>22679142
Not OP, for some reason I feel compelled to set others straight. I have a vague feeling that if I put something right with them now, I'll have impacted the course of some future events in some small way, hopefully positive.

What is philosophy worth?

>>22678665
Would you call that your.....philosophy?

I agree.

>>22678665
According to your philosophy...

>>22679245
and what is the conclusion that women have when they reach 12 years old?

>>22678665
>>22678699
Is she Russian? God I love Ruskee girls so much........

>>22679207
as much as you're willing to pay for it
you way with time and sacrifice

>>22679285
They're evil homewreckers

>>22678665
Go live in Death Valley

>>22679281
>”the world revolves around me”
>”look at my army of simps”

>>22679129
Nigga i aint reading the book you just posted

>>22679301
We can make a new home together...

>>22679317
Until she fucks some other guy, killing two homes with one demonic pussy

>>22679327
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>22678711
This feels like satire but nothing you said is incorrect

>>22678665
Anything is useless if it isn't applied

>>22679281
pusi power

>>22679245
Kek. I've met 12-year-old girls. None of them were very wise.

>>22678665
>>22678699
This bitch knows 100% what she's doing. Shameless. But also incredibly arousing.

>>22679202
>I have a vague feeling that if I put something right with them now, I'll have impacted the course of some future events in some small way, hopefully positive.
The faster you get over this complex the sooner you'll be able to turn your drive for perfection and improvement inwards where it will not go wasted.

>>22679632
What is? I don't get it? Is this a guy thing I don't understand...?

>>22678665
>how to respond to this?
>"I wish you well for now and maybe someday you will understand. If said day were to come, I will not look down upon you but instead will greet you like a long lost friend."
>*leaves*

>>22678665
'Wisely said, friend.'

>>22679245

There is no one universal philosophy. There's many schools of thought that compete with the other.

Typical retard, where it all boils down to sex to them, per usual.

>>22679795

That autistic nerd shit doesn't work on women. You have a good basic idea about shaming language together with "hoping she comes around" but you're being way too polite about it. She'll just mentally write you off as a nerd loser and never again consider what you actually said. You have to be much simpler and a bit more insulting in the tone to get the message across (sticking in her head, forcing her to rethink it).

The force of the better argument doesn't work with these people. You have to frame things rhetorically in the right way that sticks in their craw.

>>22678665

I would tickle his foolishly unprotected armpits. I wouldn't want to actually get into a heated philosophical argument with a Russian man. I understand they shoot each other over that sort of thing.

>>22678665
Fire, blood and steel. She is right

>>22678665
Imagine jerking off your cock on her armpits and then facefucking her, what a little slut.

>>22678665
with silence

>>22678861
Can you fix my internet speed if I give you the number in the back of my credit card?

>>22679245
I met 12 year old girls, all they talked about was Disney and other stuff I didn't understand and made me feel old
They didn't even want my candy

>>22679297
I'll pay you with funny stamps and then make your funny stamps worth half as much as they did

>>22678665
>>22678699
Be truthful, if she offered you to lick her armpits (you can choose if they are freshly washed or sweaty), would you do it?

>>22679936
truly the most /lit/ post of all time

>>22680003
OH MY FUCKING GOD YES PLEASE GOD YES

>>22679624
Why are you as an adult man meeting 12 y.o. girls? You sound sus af.

>>22678665
>philosophy is useless is a philosophical claim
>if claim is true then claim is useless
>so called useless claim saves you from studying useless field
>saving you from studying a useless field is a use
>therefore claim is false

>>22678861
What did you read

>>22678699
that Martin shkreli stretch.

>>22678665
anyways philosophy is important because it's part of the steps that lead up to our modern lifestyle in short. at this point in time we reap the benefits of the elevated ideas, if the archetype of her personality likes social media thank philosophy as one of the components for being here now

>>22678665
>>22678699
Unimpressive pics? She tried to show off but there's nothing to see. Her muscles and sinew lacks definition so her armpits look like non-existent, her tits are underdeveloped. Not to be mean to OP who shares her pics but I wouldn't use this to bait replies.

>>22680373
>Go out into the world
>Meet people of both genders and various ages
>Some retard on 4chan tries to insert pedophilia into innocuous interactions
Unironically touch grass, faggot

>>22678665
if you are lust provoking it's over, truth will find you

>>22680003
she wants bbc, not you

>>22679932
>You have a good basic idea about shaming language
"You MUST shame people who have a different, (dumb) opinion because... BECAUSE YOU JUST MUST, OKAY!?!"
I would say the same thing as that anon and I would mean it 100% in earnest. I don't give a shit what people think about philosophy. I know what it's actually worth. Them being wrong about it is their problem, not mine. Simple as.