/lit/ - Literature

Read motherfucking Dune

Ya giant women are great but what about books with midgets in it? I've read The Dwarf and liked it a lot.

>>22455978
Is Bakker's conception of the Inrithi God playing a role in the process of history in any way related to Hegel's political philosophy?

>last
>current
>next

>Ubik
I didn't like some of the plotholes (e.g., Joe Chip telling others not to go off alone when they feel tired then immediately goes up to another floor to be alone in a room) and the open-ending was a bit of a letdown but most everything else was great. I think Pat's psychic ability was a huge red herring considering she didn't do anything overall impactful with it.
>Eye in the Sky
I thought I was further ahead but I'm only 45% though. Shit happens and a group of people are drawn into one older man's psychotic hyper-Christian mindreality. Another Dick book to say the word NIGGER
>Idk what I will reread next

>>22456128
Fang Yuan is so based

>>22456134
martial world
true martial world
arise true martial world

>>22456153
I don't plan to bother with TMW myself. I left off at the start of the Asura Road book, before starting this Dick reread, where the Saint race has arrived to negotiate not immediately warring with the Divine realm and Lin Ming is heading to that battle practice planet to inevitably fuck some Saints up.

Just don't care about podcasts

>>22454298
> I read mostly at night. Is one better than the other if i plan to read from it with the lights out?
Then you probably want one with a back light and auto-adjusting light sensors. The latest Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition has them and the Kindle Oasis. I have the Oasis and it's their premium high-end model with a price to match but given the amount of use it has gotten worth every penny to me. I don't know the Kobo models well enough to say if any have the same feature.

>>22435251

Thank you for posting that picture. I really like the prose and went and bought that book.

I like fantasy maps.

What the fuck was his problem?

Just finished Fall of Hyperion, should I continue on with the series? I've heard mixed things about the next two

>>22456389
If you want to. They're certainly different.

Does Cloud Atlas fit more into the scifi category or the fantasy category?

>>22456613
Garbage category

Masterpiece.
Even if it's a live look at a writer's process behind the scenes, that only makes it more immersive.
GZR knocked it out of the park again.

Uhhh /sffg/bros..
/lit/ is making fun of us again!
>>22454621

/SFFG/ Recommendations:

Read Reverend Insanity, Lord of The Mysteries, Neuromancer, Hyperion, The Prince of Nothing

Also read The Wandering Inn, Between Two Fires, Mother of Learning, Cradle, I Shall Seal the Heavens, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Poppy War.

Soon

/SFFG/ Recommendations: LITRPG Edition

Read Azarinth Healer, Primal Hunter, He Who Fights with Monsters, Dungeon Crawler Carl

Also read System Universe, Dissonance, Defiance of the Fall, Iron Prince.

How to write like him?

>>22456648
has he finished with the rewrite yet? The original is total garbage. Maybe it could be considered (below) mediocre but it will always be compared to RI.

>>22456817
One of the best books to read is Shadows of the New Sun by Peter Wright, it includes Wolfe's advice from interviews and essays (e.g. "Wolfe's Rules: What You Must Do To Be a Writer").

>>22456820
>The original is total garbage
nice to see the pleb filter still works!

Have any of you BL fags read Pedoro Pedoro's stuff, is it good?

This is now a Discworld thread!

>>22456863
Not sure what you mean by that. The novel is objectively garbage, there are several highly rated chinese (web)novels (RI one of them) and Infinite Bloodcore is not one of them.

>>22456741
Why the fuck isn't outcast in another world, on your meme list. It stinks, but it actually has some decent insight into the mentality of other people in regards with the discussions with the diplomacy skill

>>22456915
Fuck off faggot
How about jerking off to a real girl huh?

>>22457004
It's a shitpost meant to be filtered
No one reads this shit besides DCC and Azarinth (when people are daring enough)

>>22457015
I'm still reading defiance of the fall, because it turned from litrpg into one of my Chinese webnovels.

>>22457004
bc i havent read yet? im reading mistborn and lord of the mysteries 2 atm
>>22457015
pretty funny how every thread goes like this
>ritual
>someone replys
>''MUHH SHITPOST RITUAL PLS FILTER AND IGNORE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE''
guess is better than the retard repeating ESL Underage nonstop, funny how he stopped sprouting shit after i posted this screenshot

>>22457062
KEK

>>22457062
>bc i havent read yet? im reading mistborn and lord of the mysteries 2 atm
This pasta has been in the thread for years, get gud at reading son.

>>22457062
you are the last person to be complaining about ritual happenings you jobless dork, and I'm pretty sure that anon is 100% correct about you being an turdworld ESL

>>22455984
>>22456389
>>22456613
Great post anon, very original but just started three body problem and i'm wondering when does it gets good? are the witcher books any good? Only played Witcher 3 and the netflix's series. Just started Eye of the World when does WoT gets good?? Any books like dark souls/berserk/Bloodborne??? Any books like FF/Dragon Quest/Tales of..??!! Any books with N'Wahs?Kvothe is a cuck, will slob Martin ever finish winds of winter??? Abercrombie is Reddit-tier?? Are the dune sequels worth it or should i stop with god emperor of dunc? Should i read the Hyperion sequel???? Did severian fucked his grandma? Is severian a clone? Any books with chinks? Any books like fallout/metro? Any books where the mc gets cucked? Any books where the mc Doesn't get cucked?? Stormlight book 5 when? Will kaladin fuck the fairy?? is the Eisenhorn trilogy a good place to start with W40k??? Or should i watch 4hours YouTube vid about le EPIC lore??? Any books with young petite women? Any books with old thick women? Any books with MANLY men like David Gemmell? Soulcatcher or Lady who is the better waifu? When does malazan gets good?? I didn't finish highschool so i can´t understand Malazan?!?! Any books with chinks??!! When does ASOIAF gets good??!? When does Farseer gets good?? When does lightbringer gets good?? When does codex alera gets good??? When does Lord of The Isles gets good?? Dunsany is king or bakker??
Any books with incest?

>>22457073
>wandering inn
>lord of the mysteries
>dungeon crawler carl
and the rest is all ongoing, at most u wait 6 months and read another 1k pages book
>>22457073
>This pasta has been in the thread for years
7 months actually
>>22457075
sure buddy

Post hand

>>22457104

What do we think?

Trannime posters are shitting up the catalog. I'm gonna rest in this thread for a while.

>>22457131
Didn't ask

>>22457062
ESL here. Not sure why some people are so butthurt about ESLs. Half of all 4chan posters are ESL.

>>22457114
He legit looks like a homosexual.

>>22457167
>Retarded ESL
>Frogposter
Checks out.

>>22457167
bc burguers are always mad they speak mcdonalds while euchads speaks 3-5 diff languages on a daily basis

>>22457195
Argelian french is still just french

>>22457062
funny how this newfag thinks /lit/ invented the term ESL and that every person who uses it is the same

>>22457235
yeah yeah, it was actually 99 diff dudes replying to me every thread with the same shit
lmao fucking retard

>>22457235
next you gonna say that the ''your """reviews""" are SHIT'' is actually multiple people

>responding to the same post multiple times
>BAWWWWWWWWWWW everyone who dislikes my image is the same person BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Welcome to the Multiverse /sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General, where every post is made by a diff person!!!

Newfags please stop posting!!!

>>22457269
funny how this newfag thinks that every person who responds to his post is the same

>>22457269
you are evil.

>>22457269
>>22457358
meant to include pic related

>phoneposting
>samefagging this hard

>>22455978
I need some help imagining a political system

the future can go many ways, 2000 years ago was the roman empire, the rise of christianity, the invention of math, science, electronic technology, there was oligarchys and queens and kings and royal bloodlines, languages came and go
in another 2000 years so many different things could happen, languages made, new countries, political systems, borders changed, religions made or phased out, maybe a world government, aliens discovered or planets terraformed, technologies, medicines, all of it

I can only write about one possible route that may never happen, I choose to believe maybe we will find aliens or aliens will find us and at least 2 planets will be successfully terraformed, connected in wireless communications, and that money will be used still in an intergalactic stock market, with lower classes existing and being stuck on planets

what may be the governmental systems if they aren't global and intergalactic, not on a scale of hundreds of planets but a young civilization reaching out into the galaxy, only finally terraforming and mining planets within their own milkyway galaxy? what would be tying them together and not causing all out war? one government system for all of the planets they occupy or a handful of major governmental systems which hold neutral or slightly tense opinions of eachother but manage to keep it together to not fall out into the first galactic war? what about the aliens? perhaps they tie their political system into it? I'd like the aliens and humans to practically live among eachother, both being relatively young civilizations reaching out into the universe but friendly with eachother and having trade and living among eachother.

any books like 1984 as in a fictional but realistic scenario that details in dark life of a sad individual but in a medieval setting? (no magic, no dragons, no hobbits—no cliché fantasy tropes)

>>22457376
no government at all.

what is your take on normies obsessing on blood meridian recently?

typical cycle of normies breaking away normal golem cycle and consuming edgier fiction only to be scared away and returning back to their easily consumable slop?

>>22457388
none of those words are in the bible

>>22457377
I've begun reading 1984 only to realize that deep into the novel, it isnt as all these normies say it as.

the vast majority in the setting are proles or proletariats, similar to brainless normalfags, and they dont see any of the harsh oppressive treatment the outer party members receive


why do so many normies lack the capability of pondering? Or do they all literally just speedread it (i.e. dont read it at all)

>>22457384
>lol a multiplanetary civilization would totally work as an anarchy
okay, next suggestion?

while yes, human nature is kinder than it seems, and perhaps not much death and morally wrong action would take place, eventually a governmental system would take place yet again, which one would rise after the lack of government and anarchy is done? of course filtering out for ones that are obviously and downright dystopian, as I want to write a book that is more than "hey the future is bad and the government will ruin daily life"

>>22457388
i've answered my own question >>22457377

you losers were no help

hint: im going read blood meridian (its kinda medieval)

how come none of you fags have read the best genre series of the decade

>>22457414
>I sat, thought, and realized the answer was right there
>its YOUR fault I had to THINK, now I hate all of you

get therapy

>>22457437
>Seth Dickinson
>Dick In son
Oh I haven't read the book, I just find the name very funny

>>22457437
only the first is decent

Hola amigos
/a/ me envió aquí
Algunas novelas web que recomienden?

>>22457376
>>22457409
after much thinking, getting a little help from chatGPT, and watching some videos, I have landed on

eco-socialist technocractic democracy ran with multiple "presidents" and "governors" (field specialists paired with one politician per specialist)

>>22457437
I have and so have others here. Only the first book could be considered good as far I'm concerned.

So if you go to the Wikipedia page "Sexuality in The Lord of the Rings", you'll notice something...odd, about the number of women making bizarre, sexual claims about the LOTR books compared to the number of men even discussing such things.

>>22456714
For those of you who autistically follow everything he does, when do you speculate the book will actually be done?

>>22457409
government can’t even regulate (with any efficacy) a country of 300 million people without becoming a totalitarian nightmare. no interplanetary government could exist except in name only (effectively anarchy) or some sort of insanely totalitarian, aggressively indoctrinating north korea type system.

>>22457527
mi español no es buena pero si tú me poder aprender, entonces web novelas are bad don't read them

CAN the first Traitor Baru be read as a standalone

>>22457699
>I cant imagine a council consisting of multiple far spread countries similar governments speakers uniting to brief eachother on the major situations, with smaller governments based off of the main form of government, usually going by the same name with the same principles as the main form of government

the UN. but in space. most, actually all, countries in the UN are democratic with capitalist economies. the UN makes major economic and war based decisions together, and is united with similar goals. of course in space, it would be more heavily tied and complex with economic and war based decisions, and of course, like the UN, there are countries outside of the UN who do not agree with democracy, and some who dont agree with capitalism.

what you cant imagine is the UN. congrats.

>>22457729
I really should have reread this before I hit post
>a council consisting of multiple PLANETS that have similar governments, who send speakers and representatives to the council to brief eachother blah blah
>and of course, like on earth with the UN, there would be plants outside of the council who dont agree with the councils government

>The charges, officer?

>>22457729
>what you cant imagine is the UN. congrats.
first, you are weakly mischaracterizing my post because I said it couldn’t happen, not that I can’t imagine it. second, the UN essentially doesn’t exist. it is certainly not a real government, and is barely a “government in name only” which my post specifically mentioned.

>>22457762
Being a fucking hack and ruining stormlight past book 2

>>22457764
okay, whats stopping there from being a large global government other than strong opposition of it? whats stopping all of the essentially the same governments from tying together to be one big country? and why is it "impossible" for there to be a figure like the UN with more influence and a wider span than one planet.. in space?
"the capitol is impossible because the untied states is too big and expansive" is just as stupid to say as "a space council planet where leaders meet and the government stays at is impossible because the other controlled planets are too far away"

>>22457762
Not having kaladin and the fairy make sweet love.

I AM HATE WATCHING WHEEL OF TIME S2 RN AAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOMEBODY STOP ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anybody watching Foundation?

>>22457808
practicality.

>>22457831
The show is shit, but so are the books.

>>22457114
america's ayn rand

>>22457839
>practicality
whats impractical about it? the sheer size of it? if theres a full civilization around the globe on each planet, with some planets existing due to terraforming, I'd imagine they have transportation that makes the distance between each the same as driving to the gas station
if its the amount of people, I'd imagine by the time we have more than one civilized planet, we'd have the appropriate understanding to govern more than 1b person at a time, even 7b people at a time, and I'm not trying to argue that itd be utopian either, just that we'd have an appropriately scaled and managed governing force (think instead of 100 people governing 300m, more like 1m people specializing on specific sectors and subjects)

in fact, if we think from a solo planetary perspective, anything past earth is impractical, but in this future, we've gone past that barrier and adapted to such, and whats impractical now is practical, whats practical now is then barbaric

>>22457879
bro the government couldn’t ban weed despite imprisoning millions of people, spending trillions of dollars, and sending millions of arms cops to wage a “war” on drugs on the streets of american cities. and it’s not just that. despite the fda, our food and drugs are unhealthy. despite the sec, the stock market is a Ponzi scheme. the government is fucking fake anon.

>>22457724
It doesn't complete the overall story, but it is mostly self-contained.

>>22457869
That's factually 100% incorrect.

>>22457907
>bro, I dont understand that governments effect every aspect of life and on paper they're idyllic but the lower class still exists in every civilization irregardless of political ideology
the government cant ban weed, but we still have presidents who we vote on in a democratic system that spans the entire united states with a free market running off of capitalism and no part of the united states defies this rule and runs off of another form of government

again, why does that seem impossible, impractical, and unlikely in space spanning multiple planets?

>>22457922
because anyone who’s paying attention would understand that governments are already on their way out. between globalization and the internet, more and more of society and the economy is happening beyond/outside the borders of any state. in space it will be less relevant than even now

>>22457907
>despite the ruling powers.. rules, physical substances still circulate
grass still grows even if you dont water it
human nature to do drugs
under democracitc capitalism, you have to ban each and every substance you dont want a company to use, and we haven't done that yet, the FDA doesnt ban all of these substances, so they are still used despite being unhealthy
The SEC cracks down on every ponzi scheme, other than the ones that own giant fortune 100 companies, because they make the government money and run the thing

do you think I'm trying to write a utopia? a boring story about how good everything will be? or even a dystopia about "everything will be terrible"? no, I'm trying to write the most autistically in depth realistic future where we meet and civilize with aliens, how language will be effected, how some things improved drastically, but human nature still takes place, and its in humans nature to... make governments, rules, laws, cultures, and other things

>>22457927
>governments cycle, as they always have, anarchy insues in the inbetweens, because I'm living in a time next to anarchy, I think 2000 years in the future will still be anarchy, THATS why I think you should write your entire planned franchise as all of the planets, civilizations, countries, and cultures as having absolutely ZERO ruling class at all, no government, no economy, no trade, no keeping track and enforcing resource management, no mutual communication of business and regulation of what businesses are and arent allowed to do, no labor management, nothing

okay, I'm discussing with a narrow minded idiot

>>22457954
you think
>no government
means
>no economy, no trade, no keeping track and enforcing resource management, no mutual communication of business and regulation of what businesses are and arent allowed to do, no labor management, nothing
and I’m the narrow minded one? lmao. you are like a writer living in the 1850s asking what kind of slavery they will have in the distant future, and I’m telling you there won’t be any, or virtually none.

>>22457846
Live action Moiraine is hot.

>>22457977
you think
>no government
means
>less obtrusive government
on top of that, you think
>economy isn't governmental or needing of government influence
>government is a switch that can be turned off and the only thing that will turn off is the president, governors, and mayors with nothing else messing up
>government doesnt influence and control laws, regulations, or what organizations can and cant do
>government is some background figure that isn't important to any aspect of life

what do you think government does and how would we stop companies from selling, say, original cocaine included coca cola mixed with alcohol to a coal mining 12 year old who has never seen the inside of a school?
I bet your suggestions will be "have a business pass a law to prevent the business from selling crack"
"make schooling mandatory enforced by a school board"
and "have a labor union prevent children from working until a certain age"
which issssssss.......
governing, having a group of people make rules over a larger group of people, you have created multiple small disconnected governings, who would be better off communicating together.

>>22457988
retard

>>22457995
what kind of retard would buy something without having a high level of confidence about what’s in it? a private company that reviews, rates, ranks, etc various products is not the same thing as a government passing laws.

>>22457009
But I can't have gay sex with a real woman

>>22457869
based retard

>>22458004
>what kind of retard
90% of civilization.
>a private company that reviews, rates, ranks, etc. various products
so, instead of making a government or even an organization that passes just food specific laws (which is still governing) to make sure that
1. you HAVE to have ingredients and nutritional info readily available
2. you CANT put any psychoactive substances, poisons, or drugs
3. the review agency CANT lie about the food
4. the review agency CANT accept payment to try foods
5. you CANT overprice (assuming this civilization with no government has an economy or money) your foods

we're going to trust that a mythical magical review agency that assumably hasn't already been stolen by some guy claiming their building as his and refusing to leave, with no law that he cant leave, nobody to enforce him to leave other than the lack of laws against killing him, blah blah
you'll trust that the company isn't nefarious, isn't accepting bribes, isn't lying, and that their subjective taste is true, that they did a complete chemical backcheck of everything and know the caloric count of it?

>>22458022
your strawman is unironically still superior to a government in every conceivable way.

>>22458022
>strawman
definition, wikipedia - A straw man fallacy is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction

the only thing stawman about it is using one example. this example can apply to anything within a civilization.

in capitalism, its a lot more evident, corporations are greedy for money and will warp all morals to gain this profit, giving major need to government. you can see this everywhere, simply by studying american history, and in the modern day. monopolization is illegal, yet amazon (selling everything from male-male plugs to clothes, branching out and working on a company town, stores, streaming, game services, etc.), facebook (social media, meta, VR sets, etc.), 5 food companies selling every single food product youve every bought and branching out into household goods, etc. not only this, but exploitation of workers, indentured servitude, drugs, schooling and learning, city planning, business to business relations, etc.

lets turn away from capitalism and look at civilization as a whole before getting into other political systems

humans
>cheat (in life and relationships), lie, steal, kill, get exploited, kidnap, force others to work, team together, use cheap things that aren't healthy for consumption, create products in cheap ways, etc.
and
>will lack opportunities in one way or another that could be easily accessable
>get gatekept from opportunities that would be accessable if they were born different
>feel need to feel superior for the circumstances they are in
>attack others based on their own mental rules
both on the scale of a group of 5 people or 500 billion people, we need rule, some people are greedy, selfish, and evil, and they ruin anarchy for the rest of us who are moral, there is a reason to govern because people are evil, and lazy, and dumb and there are enough evil, lazy, dumb people out there who hide it well enough to require a governmental system, and a basic low influence government isnt enough because people find ways around the laws and government to require new, specific, laws.
you govern yourself, other people govern other people, whether it be as a group or as an individual, you judge yourself and others, it is a human trait, and a necessary one that prevents serious moral, ethical, and insane crimes.

>>22458084
now other governments

socialism/communism, people own the means of production and distribute it to others with less, lets assume there is no central government, people just live like that, nobody is enforcing them to do that, which means they can... just not do that, nobodies stopping them, and people enjoy their own belongings

I realized "lets get into other political systems without governments" isnt a good prose, its just repeating the same thing over and over

so, we did food, how about
>your own house
needs government, nothing specifying its your house, that you own it, and that the land on it cant be taken by someone who feels like it
>creative endeavors
you create a painting, bobby says its his, you say its yours, he uses it in an ad and everyone knows it as his, people tell you its not yours, theres no copywrite, court to dispute, and youre not owed any money that he made off of that ad, in the eyes of the public its his
>the environment
everyone is focused on their own lives, littering isn't picked up except by a cleaner, littering isnt fined, the use of coal (if the product chain manages to exist and society manages to stay a large coexisting mass) is not regulated, the use of oil is not regulated, spilling chemicals in the ocean is not regulated, there are no laws against chopping down every single last tree to mass produce wood stoves, and the only thing that cam prevent the extinction of trees is private agency, which, as it is now, likely wouldnt be large enough and make enough of an impact, thus pollution would be rampant, the environment on a downward spiral, and you know what happens at the end.
>crime
no police besides citizen police, no court to dispute petty crime, nothing to stop or punish crime besides citizens, getting away with crime would be as easy as travelling some 50 miles where you dont know anyone, or as easy as living somewhere with no citizen police, citizen police wouldn't communicate with eachother because that's a risk for developing a governance
>economic
theres nothing regulating the printing of money, or fraud, or scamming. lets pretend the economy is a trade economy, you have product A and want product B, business B wants product A, business B gives you half of product A and you trust them so you give all of product A, they then run away and your customers are pissed you dont have product A, they stop coming to you, business B recreate product A and is now selling to double the consumer base. they have economically grown, done this multiple times, and is now verging monopoly, business B is now the biggest business and no other workers have an option but to work at business B.

Best Roadside Picnic translation?

>>22457114
He has great settings, but seems uninterested in telling stories in them.

>>22458084
>>22458119
I think he might have left
must've realized that "no government" wont work, at least not long term, but thats wishful thinking, he probably got annoyed or angry and still has those illogical opinions

well, guess I'll research various political and economical systems to see which ones seem the most likely to last in a multiplanetary space civilization, since the only answer was "none"

eco-capitalistic technocratic democracy seems like it'd fit better, given how long and how many civilizations are capitalist democracies, and currently over 50 countries are capitalist, over half of the globe is democratic, and technocracy seems like a nice addon that would help many endeavors

maybe spice it up with some socialist values and laws instead of eco-socialism

>>22458084
>>22458119
>>22458214
I didn’t leave the thread. all that shit you listed about how selfish/greedy people are is exactly the reason you can’t trust people to have the authority or power of a government. your basic bitch bluepilled understanding of the state is below the level where meaningful engagement is possible. now I’m leaving the thread.

The Rape into Conflict: The Rape Story, by Stephen Rape Donaldson

>>22458246
>because selfish/greedy people exist, government cant exist
because selfish/greedy people exist, government has to exist, and because government has to exist while selfish/greedy people exist, it'd be best to have governmental figures vetoed, limited in individual ruling power, and not let one singular person rule at a time
>"basic bitch bluepilled"
>argues for zero government power and zero ruling

>"basic understanding of government"
>cant explain what government is, cant explain what governing is, cant even explain how civilization would magically work on a large scale with no government

>i'm LEABING
okay. bye, hopefully I can have a proper discussion with someone a bit more mature and logical than you

Does reading more make you a better writer?

>>22458269
If you couple it with writing more.

>>22458269
If you read with an analytical eye. It's the same with art. It's all too easy to look without seeing, because it takes less mental energy.

>>22457258
It's one person but he represents many of us.

>>22458269
not necessarily, I barely read, I mostly write, but I dont have anyone to grade my writing

in highschool I was considered for AP english for my stories, but highschool was a while ago. I didn't read much back then and I read less now. maybe my writing got worse.

>>22458278
thats fitting, looking at paintings wont take you from stick man to perfect anatomical diagram, and reading wont take you from 50 shades to *insert writer thats uncontroversially good*

New haul :]

>>22458325
Are they all new to you or are you just buying them to own physical copies?

>>22458326
New as in I've never read these before? Yes. I only buy physical. Reading books on a screen is weird to me and I like the way the page feels in my hands

>>22458332
Oh, have fun then.

>>22458269
A writer has to have experiences and consumed knowledge to have ideas to write. Imagine it like any other field, except even more intimate: you could exercise any activity reduced to nothing but brute force and surely make some headway yet halting and haggardly. Or you could use the vast resources compiled by generations before you to make the path much easier.

Of course this assumes you're reading critically and actually trying to interrogate and dialogue your consumption. As Adolf Hitler once said I know many people who have read a great, great many books yet I do not consider them well read.

>>22458214
The best system for interplanetary government would be a Jeffersonian democracy focused on localism (see Taleb's idea of antifragile) with MacIntyre's interpretation of Aristotle (see his essay on plain persons). Least corruption, most sustainable.

>>22458498
most likely /= best
I'll keep it noted if I want to include a planet that strives for utopia or an alien species that's far advanced and only just detected humans, though it'll likely end in war and death because utopia stories are boring to me, boring to write for long periods of time

still, noted

>>22458523
I didn't really consider it a utopia. At least not for me because it's not a system I'd want to live in. It's just what I think is most sustainable long-term.

Bakkersisters: why does Kelmomas murder the crone figurehead of the Yatwer cult? He seems like a total fucking psycho, and she is described as having a totally unknown and fascinating scent which Kelmomas is drawn to with his demihuman-like senses. pic unrelated

>>22458498
You ever read The Prefect? One interesting concept is technology advancing democracy by being able to make voting cheaper and easier and quicker to the point of possibly even making less important votes almost subconsciously. A transhuman democratic anarchy feels like a natural step for multiple worlds

>>22458590
I haven't read that but it sounds interesting. Do you recommend the series?

>>22458605
I've not read the sequel but Alistair Reynolds has some interesting ideas about politics in science fiction. The Prefect is a fun read, it does go hard on some weird science fiction ideas but the basic concept of being a detective where the only real crime is tampering with democracy was a departure from the norm of the genre and I haven't found something quite like it yet.

If you read more of the Revelation Space universe, know that The Prefect is mostly standalone and is also a prequel, its basically one of the great planets of the setting before The Bad Thing happened.

>>22457812
It's not possible.

What does /sffg/ think about the Amazon books that are $5 - $6 Why are they so cheap? I'm talking about the litrpg books, what are your thoughts please?

>>22458699
>litrpg
they're all written by AI

>>22458703
I call bs mate

>>22458605
It's terrible. There may one or two good ideas but his writing is just terrible.

>>22458699
Most of them are available on libgen and mobilism. Do not waste your money

Going bald lads. A terrifying feeling.

>>22458732
I know how to get them off IRC anyway, Sometimes I may have to buy them if there brand new, there only $7 ish, anyway, not a big deal.

>>22458742
Join the club m80 180 ;_;

>>22457114
Bidisha won

>>22458731
yeah, this guy is great at creating interesting themes and worlds but he fucking sucks at writing characters and he pads out his books with character drama. i'm still mad he wasted so many pages of revelation space on the stupid girl with her stupid ship's ai that was really a copy of her stupid dad's stupid friend who caused an accident and hid away on the ship
bitch humanity's being genocided who gives a fucking shit

>>22457824
You've done it to yourself, I barely got to episode 4 of S1 before giving up

>>22458742
The great news is that you can throw away your mirror and give up worrying about being attractive. The bad is that you need sunscreen for you head.

my friend consumes litrpg every single day, for years now. eventually i tried to get into it on his recommendations but they are all idiotic drivel written by chidden or ESL authors.
i UNDERSTAND the pure progression and self insert smut aspect of it, but jesus christ.
anyway.. i eventually found dungeon crawler carl, and recommended it to the litrpg LORD. he hates it
'the systems dont matter, it's all made up nonsense'
'it's too silly'
etc.
what gives?
these "people" just want porn i guess? on the rails, self insert, winning. nothing else will do

>>22458605
My thoughts on the two released books There's going to be a third book.
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_text=prefect&search_tripcode=sffg&search_ord=old

The other /sffg/ ratings are mostly higher, 4 and 5 stars, as can be seen on the Goodread group's bookshelf.

>>22459362
Complaining and gossiping about your friend behind his back, not even in real life, but on the internet? And on some general on a board of a Mongolian basket weaving forum no less? Man, you're pathetic.

>>22459372
it's like pissing into the void. i somehow hit some faggot though. collateral damage: intended

>>22459362
>likes litrpg
>doesn't like carl
your friend sounds like a fag

>>22459381
thank you
>>22459372
see? he's participating in shitting on my friend. why can't you do this one simple thing?

>>22456817
Make every character secretly be another character. Done.

>>22457869
In that he's a preachy asshole? And his books are just politic screeds with a veneer of the fantastic. I can see it.

>>22458325
You're in for some good shit anon, First Law is probably my favorite series and I just started Red Rising myself, seems great so far

>>22458699
>Why are they so cheap?
Self published. The author gets more of the money.
>>22458699
>I'm talking about the litrpg books, what are your thoughts please?
Publishers barely acknowledge sff and definitely won't touch litRPG. So it's filled with self published and amateur books.
>>22458703
>they're all written by AI
Maybe shitty ones. But good litRPG requires coming up with a cohesive 'system' and frequently referencing it throughout a long story, something chatgpt would be terrible at.

really enjoying this. find it way more of a pleasure to read than i ever did lovecraft

Fantady books about what it feels to be popular in school?

>>22459599
Name of the Wind

>>22457377
Hard to be a God
The Dwarf

>>22459649
kek

>>22457086
I’ve only read The Last Wish, but its pretty good. Dune is good but sometimes unnecessarily lengthy

Why didn't the "Roci crew" just full burn themselves out of the dullest tv series in the history of tv series? Seriously each episode following the boy moralfag and his pals from the Rocinante as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make sci-fi unmagical, to make the action seem "hard".

Perhaps the die was cast when Corey vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody? just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their books. The Expanse series might be pro-globohomo (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though

"No!" The writing is dreadful; the books were terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character wanted to make a comparison, the author wrote instead "when the character was a child growing up on the farm/on mars/in the belt"

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Corey's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of the Expanse by the same GRRM. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading the Expanse at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read GRRM." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "the Expanse" you are, in fact, trained to read GRRM

Hate myself and want to die.

>>22459815
You haven't posted that in this thread since May 6th. Were you gone and/or feeling better in the time between!

>>22459844
I went to France for a few months.

>>22459849
you don't have a positive outlook on life after witnessing the french joie de vivre?

>>22459815
samesies

Watching Fight Club makes unreasonably angry.

>>22459885
>watching a movie
Stop consuming shit entertainment

>>22459885
>>22459815
>>22459849
literature?

What's the gayest (as in men kissing) /sffg/ book?

>>22459815
No, you make yourself a better guy. Positive language.

>>22460094
Dhalgren
Hogg

Read Chthon

>>22460147
>piers anthony
I remember the middle school librarian at my school donated nearly a full set of the xanth books when he retired and everyone that read them was surprised they weren't banned, wonder if he was trying to confess something

>>22457595
late 2025 - early 2026, assuming he doesn't start yet another side project

>>22457762

>>22457595
>>22460177
it's never going to be done, are you fucking retarded m80s?

>>22457595
Wait, there's people that legit think he's gonna finish ASoIaF before croaking?
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>22460186
>supposed to be kind of hard
I'm esl and even I know you're not supposed to write shit like that

Martin is such an insufferable faggot these days
>noooo don't call me out on my missed deadlines I'm an artists I have to work at a glacial pace
as though he isn't selling a product that people bought in to with the expectation it would actually be finished at some point

>>22460159
I haven't read his fantasy cause I heard its crap (even Anthony said that he writes Xanth for money), are any of them worth checking? Aside from Chthon I only read Macroscope which was also great

Sex with Bene Gesserit women

>>22460263
Literally haven't read any of them since middle school/early high school but I remember even at the time not thinking that much of them they have a lot of weirdly sexual humor (though maybe that was just my perspective being younger) and that's not even just from a modern perspective people have said piers anthony is a pedo for his whole career

>>22457437
It's by-the-numbers YA and barely any good. Had potential though.

>>22460263
Chthon is great. That was his first book, and he was more serious about it.

His stories might be crap, but he's a master of structuring novels. There's a reason he sold a lot of books.

>>22460263
A Spell for Chameleon has some genuinely interesting ideas and a dangerously based villain

>>22459844
you forgot the "lads" or you are just another imposter

>>22458140
There are multiple translations of this? Lmao, just pick one and start reading. I mean it is not exactly Shakespeare.

>>22455978
>OP's pic
oooh baby whats sum books with giant ladies in them

>>22460267
This

>>22457114
Wish he'd stop writing communism essays and get back to fiction.

I'm just about to get to Irma's party in Gormenghast book 2. Often the romance parts of fantasy books/movies/etc bore the hell out of me but Peake's romance is extremely enthralling.

>>22457114
>author is called china
>doesn't write anything as compelling as three body problem
wtf?

>>22455978
Hello /lit/ I dont read much, when I was a child this sort of thing was only allowed to be textbooks so I never gained a huge interest. However Im an adult now and just finished the first Dune book!

I really enjoyed it, might read up to book 6 but Ive heard not to read what his son wrote.

Besides this, Im thinking of reading some more sci fi. A friend of mine put me on "Red Rising" have you guys read it? How did you enjoy it? Thank you.

>>22460764
We enjoy Wolfe and Bakker ass rape here. Disregard anything else said

>>22460764
since you're starting out Red Rising should be a great entry level space opera for you, definitely read the first trilogy at least
after that you can go through the mega charts in the op for more recs for specific genres and settings that you like

>>22460880
Thanks for the reply. I would like to learn one of them but if I’m honest with myself, I don’t want to dedicate the time, and have it cut into my reading time. I feel I need to get a Loeb eventually, I have over 500 books and no Loebs. Probably the only “major” publisher in English speaking countries where I own zero

>>22458325
Darrow is based

>>22460880
Thank you for the Guidance

>>22460981
Wait you arent me haha, quit messing around!

>>22455978
my grandpa was, and I assume still is, a guy hugely into science fiction novels. He nearly died yesterday, so I want to get him a science fiction novel. I have no idea what books he was into, the only thing I really know is that he gifted me Ender's Game in my teens, so presumably that was one book that he enjoyed. What book should I get for him? We can presume he read a lot of the classics, but without the internet, maybe some cult classics eluded him. Maybe he would like something a little more modern if it kept up a classic quality/feel to it, I'm hoping to strike a feeling of nostalgia, but I wouldnt want to purposefully gift him something he's already read

>>22458699
If you're going to read ebooks why pay for them? You know you can get most of them for free, right?

>>22461160
We are white. We pay for things.

>>22456302
As do I. First thing I do any time I pick up a new fantasy book off the shelf is flip to its map page. If it doesn't have one, I usually don't bother reading it.

>>22461166
Is that why you steal the resources from Africa to keep the American economy at the "all powerful dollar"?

>>22461166
A digital copy has no real value though. It can be infinitely reproduced at no cost. A printed copy at least has some intrinsic value as a material item. I don't see the point in buying digital copies of things, which is why I pirate literally all digital media. I don't pay for digital downloads of games, movies, TV shows, books, software, etc. I just pirate it.

>>22461174
>america is white

>>22458699
>>22459513
Is any of these actually good or are they ALL shlock?

>>22461141
and now instead of taking a shot in the dark at one or a few books, I was thinking it would probably be a better idea to get him an e-reader and load it up with as many pirated classic sci-fis as it can fit/i can find. so just any recommendations would do

>>22461200
The ereader idea is good. I did that for my mom this year. As for actual books just ask him what he's read and what he likes.

>>22461301
especially the font size on an ereader is going to be important, after asking my uncle(who said he was going to get him a magnifying glass lol) said his eyes are pretty fucked. I'll probably just google some classics, add Ender's game in there, and then give it to him, then ask him any others he wants to add

>not reading at font size 1
genuinely, in all seriousness

>>22461166
>We are white. We pay for things.
you say that but in actuality you're american right? you probably also say things like
>we are white. we don't take the public transport
or
>we are white. we don't walk anywhere

>just finished shadow of the torturer, gave it a second chance
>be severian
>see a woman
>oh my lord she is the hottest thing Ive ever seen
>repeat for each and every other woman you ever see

>>22461141
Hyperion or the Algrebaist would be mine

All these novels and no one can scratch the itch that LOTM left..

>>22461200
check mega in OP

>>22461370
>>22461456
thanks, brothers

>>22461200
Cute idea anon. Download the latest Ender series entry to show you remembered, then here are a couple recs he may not have read:

Planet for Rent (Yoss)
Stations of the Tide (Swanwick)
Mockingbird (Tevis)
The Doomed City (Strugatsky bros.)
The Futurological Congress (Lem)

>>22461539
>Download the latest Ender series entry to show you remembered
that reminded me its an entire series lol, even so I didnt expect the sheer number of novels related to it. I added them to the list and I'll prioritize a few of them if space doesnt permit all of them. this is what ive got so far from that one other anon, and from the OP Mega, before your recs. It looks like theres 5 more images in the Mega of sci fi, so I'll probably add those, too and basically everything should be covered, and I'll tell him I can add any sequels to things I only added the first novel of. hopefully I can compartment them into their own categories on a reader like ive done in the list

>>22461593
and I almost forgot some L Ron Hubbard books, since he's a scientologist(loved Sci fi too much, I guess)

My buddy is looking for mech books. Any suggestions other than 40k titan ones or starship troopers?

>>22461925
You mean mechanical suits playing a big role in the story?
Scanners Live in Vain if that's the case.

>>22461925
Look at the Goodreads group in the OP. It's mecha month. Four are listed and there are more in the description. There are others in listsm

>>22457114
I’ve never read any of his books because up until your post I assumed he was a woman. What kind of person names his son China?

>>22459513
It's my dream to publish a book, even self-, and have one real sale. I don't even care if it's just a $1 sale, just one genuinely interested reader

>>22461925
Brigador novelisation

>>22455978
>>22455978
This is a real writer, not one to mollycoddle the reader with boys' adventures and war glorification. This upturns years of ossified tropes and lances the boil on the arse of fantasy literature.

>>22457114
I didn't like the way Perdido or City ended, so I've not read any more.
I assume blue-ball endings are his thing.

>>22462316
NTA but thanks glad I was able to pick this one up I’m excited to start it after I finish Lord of Emperors.
On a different note I hate looking through reviews and seeing people bitch about how ‘there is to much detail’ in certain books. Like fuck it’s Gavriel Kay of course he’s going to try and paint a scene with his words he’s a fucking poet. These ADHD riddled ass hats that need stimulation 24/7 ruin what is expected of entertainment.

>>22462505
i've only read tigana and i did like it a lot. but i can understand where such comments are coming from. i wouldn't say there's "too much" detail though, it's more like "he lays it on a bit too thick" and it starts feeling overly saccharine/sappy/melodramatic and chicklitty at times.

>>22462505
Guy Gavriel Kay writes like someone huffing his own farts and jerking off
I made the mistake of checking his twitter, he's a completely brainrotted #resisttrump tier retard as well, which i wouldn't mind if his prose weren't so purple and his stories were good

>>22462400
I actually find Mieville a very good author, albeit one far more interested in settings than telling stories. It's just a shame he burned all his bridges in genre fiction and went full communism.

was it slop?

>>22457114
is this the "FUCK, he's good" guy? I only know him from these posts

The Winds of Winter November 24th 2023 release date

>>22462889
Source: god told me in a dream

Bought this used for cheap since the new edition cover is butt ugly. Let's see if I've fallen for another /lit/ meme or if it's actually good.

>>22462946
It's the best fantasy book written in the last 30 years that's for sure.

>>22462946
Keep us updated

>>22457869
lmao

>start reading Twelve Kingdoms
>first volume is pure kino, can't fall asleep until I finish it
>second volume is a snoozefest with a new protagonist
I'm gonna read it all, but I'm not a huge fan of authors doing that.

>>22463723
It's an incredible series, anon. I wish more people would read it, but it translates horribly, so I guess I understand why it's not so popular, considering how much it relies on prose and chinese.
楽俊すき

>>22463746
fake chinese*

Black Sun Rising good? I try and give the benefit of the doubt to female authors and I actually like the female characters so far which is a good sign. Honestly my only real issue is that its overly poetic. I get what the author is trying to go for but theres a time and place for flowery descriptions.

>>22463844
that is not what I had clipboarded...

Just read Ubik, what PKD book should I read next?
Only other book of his I read before was Do Androids Dream years back and while it became one of my favorites, just didn't end up reading more from him for whatever reason and want to remedy that now.

>>22461925
Battletech, it has asian and readhead milfs

>>22462797
Only read the first book myself. Cool concept weighed down by the story advancing too quickly. The author instantly tries to work around his own magic system by introducing multiple perspectives of people immune or not subject to it. Strange choices.

>>22463906
Flow my tears, policeman said
Some weird shit you can only get from pkd.

>>22463933
Redheads* ffs

You may refer to me as Anon Muad'Dib

>>22463906
I reread Ubik and reread Eye in the Sky afterward, and now I'm rereading The Crack in Space.

>>22463937
There's no unified magic system in the series, there's half a dozen different types of magic with the implication that there's more undiscovered, and that they spawn more through culture rather than being innate to the setting.

>not a single good fantasy that was released in 2023
Time to reread mysteries then

>>22464354
>still reading traditional publishers

Man, TWI has been kinda mediocre lately
Feels like the buildup for the solstice is taking forever for no reason and instead of seeing how people are actually getting ready and shit the author decides to go off on 14 tangent plotlines
Even the Erin shenanigans feel forced at this point (like the dancing thing on the latest chapter, what was that even about)
Can't wait for this Volume to end and to get some adventure kino in the New Lands

>>22463937
>Cool concept weighed down by the story advancing too quickly.
I felt this way too, which is why I never read past the first book. He tipped his hand way too early. I dunno, maybe that sort of rushed development plays well with younger readers but I grew up expecting plots of that scope to unfold across several stories and for the mysteries of the setting to gradually unfold themselves to me, not to just be laid out unceremoniously at the end of book 1.

>>22464362
They usually proofread books, a rare thing among webnovels

>>22457769
stormlight was never good
you were just too young and stupid or easily swept up in group think hype and stupid

>>22457869
>I haven't read either but I'm going to pretend to have for some retarded reason

>>22464403
>Webnovel is mediocre
That's nuts!

>>22464549
That is why you wait until the webnovel is picked up by aetheon, podium, royal guard among other publishers that work with self publishing authors.

>>22456134
>Joe Chip telling others not to go off alone when they feel tired then immediately goes up to another floor to be alone in a room
>plothole
It's not a plothole. Chip is a self-destructive clinical retard (so, Dick's self-insert like most of his protagonists).

>>22464682
Maybe plothole was the wrong word to use. I agree about Chip and Dick. I enjoyed the subplot of Chip being poor with money in an aggressively-capitalistic hellscape where even leaving your home requires a coin to be slotted.

Patrick Rothfuss Is Hosting a Twitch Series (With Guest Authors!) to Promote Latest Publication
https://www.tor.com/2023/09/06/patrick-rothfuss-twitch-series-narrow-road/

>>22456714
How does Jimmy Buffett die but he still lives?

>>22456714
Unironically 2030+. This was my last year to hope for WoW and it doesn't seem it will be coming out anytime soon

>>22464724
nope

>>22464724
Oh boy, another novella about... side character. He's truly written himself into a corner with Kvothe, huh? It was a mediocre series anyways but maybe giving him a fae crushing cock was too much.

>>22464736
>>22464739
Wow, it's almost like you aren't impressed that he's being so selfless and generous in promoting other authors who really need the help. What a Good Guy, really!

>>22458325

>>22464747
Nebula winner, Locus Winner, Nebula winner, Hugo winner, one GENUINE nobody, Hugo winner, and his audiobook narrators. Who exactly is he promoting that's in need of help? It's the same clout chasing faggotry as always.

>>22464761
In terms of commercial success the awards mean nothing.

>>22464765
Oh no, the award winners aren't financial successes? B-but I thought the awards meant their books are the b-best??

Maybe they deserve to fail, Pat. Maybe you do too.

>>22464786
The market decides. Long live YA for women!

>>22464765
Are you saying BIPOC LGBTQ YA stories arn't successful but are pushed hard anyways?

>>22464888
Some are, some aren't. Fiction for women sells better than fiction for men.

>>22464896
We should have never allowed women to read and write

>>22464917
The Taliban and many others agree. You're not alone in your beliefs

>>22463933
wich one? there arre like 40

would you guys read a blatant operation barbarossa rip off planetary invasion space opera. hundreds of millions of soldiers, multiple continents, tungsten rods at relativistic speeds. historical sci-fi. granular, grim-dark. nukepunk
I need to make some money but I'm worried this might be too autistic

>>22465048
Writing is not a good way to make money for 99% of writers.

is there a free site where i can organize my lore and ideas. im not paying for campfire

>>22465060
It's called a notebook, you mong.

>>22465063
why, in the world of technology, would i do that?

>>22465065
I was thinking of spoonfeeding you, but then you posted this retarded reply. Nevermind.

>>22465074
i found one regardless kill yourself

Can anyone pls recommend me something atmospheric and light hearted? Maybe like spice and wolf but non-weeaboo?
t. just started reading again after mindlessly consooming video games and tv for a decade

>>22465096
I might have, but you said "non-weeaboo" so now we're enemies. Go ask reddit.

>>22465102
Hey pal, if I wanted to read light novels I'd be in /jp/

anyone recommend some self insert kino? i'm trying to escape from my miserable life

>>22465102
based

>>22455978
There is no reason to buy a book
Just pirate it
If you want physical story commodity funkos, get into comics. If you have a limited edition or one with a new character, then it will be worth hundreds in the future.

>>22465120
Dodging Prison and Stealing Witches

Any audiobookfags know of there's a George Guidall version of the Dune sequels or am I going to have to settle for whoever they have on the audible versions?

PENDULOUS PHALLI

I really like China Mieville

>>22456158
Saint god arc is almost the best part

>>22457062
Triggered underage ESL spotted. Ban yourself.

>>22460561
this please

>>22458699
Because they are serials written on royal road, the author usually takes off chapters 5-100 and makes that volume 1. They usually have a Patreon so going over 5 dollars doesn't really make sense 6 if they have added fees.

>>22459489
Right wing books = politic screeds with a veneer of the fantastic
Award/Best seller/critically acclaimed = politic screeds with a veneer of dogshit.

I wrote about litrpg a few threads ago. Basically it boils down to the fact the authors aren't well equipped to write a good one and the standard presentation is lacking. We already have the tools they just aren't using them.
>>22375308

>>22465553
Bare minimum I should be able to drop a cursor anywhere in the story and get query metadata of any story element at that point. All of which should be in constant flux.

I just finished all the Kane books. What do I think of them? Decide for me.

>>22465696
>kane
What are you an old man why do you need a kane to walk, shit / 5

This Tom and Jerry xianxia-ish thread has been funny.
>>>/v/649897550

Does anyone have recommendations for sci-fi horror?
Sort of a guilty pleasure of mine, for example I enjoyed the video game Dead Space as well as the Revelation Space spinoff Chasm City. Haven't found many books in this vein though

How do I incentivize the learning of martial skills and physical training in a setting where sufficient magical education makes you the equal of a Greek God?

>>22465814
obviously your magic is too overpowered.
Magically educated people might not be frontline fighters, or they might have different roles like support.

>>22465814
>he's never read a xianxia with dual-body cultivation

Scifi like this?

>>22465814
Make magic have more requirements. Make it make somebody more vulnerable to use. Or just justify it as "hey maybe you'll just need to brawl". Modern military still learns how to fight somebody up-close even with guns being a thing.

>>22465814
If you make magical education and development expensive enough, and avoid making it easy for mages to be completely invincible, then it should be possible for them to be overwhelmed by a larger well-trained force of martials. As long as movement is limited too (no easy teleportation), then mages can't be everywhere at once, and it's possible for conventional forces to remain a threat on a national scale.
If magic has material requirements, they can be cut off logistically. If mages need rest and concentration, they can be harried and harassed until they give up and die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCOmkrwQdFc
This is why you must read Xianxia.

>>22466010
Stanislaw Lem, Memoirs Found in a Bathtub

>>22466090
>respected wroiter
I highly doubt that, his appearance is questionable, he also has some mannerisms of a homo.

>>22465814
only people with special genes can learn magic, most people can’t.

How do you write shapeshifters, but write them in a way that they don't seem like an insidious threat within the setting?

>>22466218
they can’t mimic specific people, just change between races/genders/height/weight/etc

>>22466226
That does make them potential masters of disguise, but the inability to pretend to be specific people barring coincidence or applying an actual disguise is a pretty good limiter.

Where can I find some fantasy stories where the protagonist is a sweet girl that gets really dangerous when the situation calls for it?

>>22466218
Make them the mc a la everybody loves large chests.

>>22466218
Game world where everyone has an id and class floating above their head

Our thread is being mogged hard, lads.
>>22459542

male human cocks are made to be raped by alien pussies

could you not please mate

Do ye dare confront Great Scholar Tom, or will you kowtow before his unrestrained aura?

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but will sanderson explain what ashmounts are soon, or did I somehow miss it? I'm at the second mistborn book and in total, these things have been referenced like 3 times out of nowhere. Should I have read elantris before this?

>>22466769
they're the volcanos lol
>The Ashmounts are enormous volcanoes in the Final Empire, and north of Elendel Basin in Post-Catacendric Scadrial, in the area that was once the Final Empire.[1][2]

>>22466769
Elantris takes place on a different planet.

>>22465328
God you people are fucking useless

>ask question easily answerable with a quick check of your preferred search engine
>nobody bothers to respond
>NOOOOOOOO WHY WON'T SOMEBODY SPOONFEED ME!!!! I'M A BIG BABY I CAN'T FEED MYSELF NOOOOOOO
newfags physically sicken me

>>22466788
Audiobooks are for niggers. We can read.

>>22466816
it's just because no one gives a shit about books so no one knows how to look them up
not that hard to work out

>>22466868
Normalfags don't have basic computer and internet skills, that much was implied by anon. I don't listen to books myself but thanks to this thread and other spoonfeeders, I know where to go to look up audiobooks.

>>22466816
Remove yourself from the gene pool faggot you're worthless

>>22466876
>Normalfags don't have basic computer and internet skills
Maybe for anyone who isn't white. Most normies had dial-up at least, and know how to use a search engine or database if they graduated grade ten.
>that much was implied by anon
He's probably just trying to start a conversation. Most people get bored ITT because they don't want to go read.

>>22466980
People who had dial up internet are old, they aren't really normalfags anymore.

>>22467001
>normalfags
It just means a normal person who fits in socially, such as a boomer who just listens to dad rock, or some millennial cunt who reads Infinite Jest. They don't do anything out of the ordinary.
>old
I'm 25 and had dial-up. I already knew how to look up JAV and play lewd adobe flash games by 8.

>>22467008
>I'm white and only whites read
>that is why we want book burnings

>>22467022
What did this have to do with any of that? I'm guessing you're the one who sexually identifies as a Xianxia reader.

>>22466980
>normie
>newfag has to bring up ethnicity
sasuga

>>22467029
>ethnicity
Because most Asians didn't have internet until recently. Africans barely even have it. South Americans adopted it late. Soviet Union never had computers like America did in the 80s.
Just because you got some ricecels playing DotA in internet cafes doesn't mean it was widespread until the late 2000s.

What does /sffg/ think of maps in a fantasy/genre fiction? Do it really add to the story?

I know it stems from Tolkien's books and he was the first to do it and everyone just did it because he did it- or so it seems.

I enjoyed the Drenai series and liked checking the map to see where the character are on it. Now I am in the first installment of Elric of Melnibone and I don't get the same satisfaction of checking the map.

I know Rothfuss had a scene in Wise Man's Fear where the characters were tracking some bandits and the tracker complains that maps are usually wrong and pointless, which seemed like a nod to the reader that you shouldn't like maps.

>What makes a map well-done or poorly drawn?
>What makes a map pointless?

>>22467029
Ethnicity is to race as gender is to sex.

>>22467066
Ethnicity is the real term while race is the fake, whereas sex is the real term while gender is the fake. However this is irrelevant. Anon is a newfag because he turned a "baby can't search for his own books" post into an ethnic twist for no reason.

>>22467063
>What makes a map well-done or poorly drawn?
I personally like maps that feel like they were drawn by a resident of the world, and so represent a particular perspective and lacking perfect knowledge, but also have a particular purpose. Maps are primarily tools of reference, so any map included in a book should have information relevant to the story, like the locations of mentioned and featured places, routes taken in journeys, and so on. In terms of aesthetics, I like maps that have lots of features rather than mostly blank space, for the simple reason that there is more to look at and explore with the eye. Places that make you curious about why they were included in the map, what made them so important to note down, and then you read the story and find out.

>What makes a map pointless?
When it lacks useful information. For example a map that has neither topographical or political markings, and shows barely any of the cities, towns, or villages from the story, so it's basically useless for orienting yourself in the setting or trying to trace the journey of the people across the land. It's enough to make you wonder why it was even included.

>>22467136
>into an ethnic twist for no reason.
Look at the map. Notice which ones are blue.

>>22467028
We were the one that was going on about how only black use audiobooks and white people can read.

>>22467321
You were the one that was*

>>22465814
I think it would be cool if it was outlawed in society to learn magic, or limited to healers. A quest for knowledge spurred on by some traumatic event. A little tropey maybe, but he would have to sneak into secret archives or practice with hermit. Perhaps he has to journey across a desert to learn it or steal it from an organized religion that is trying to hide.

Whatever you do, don't make the protagonist an orphan. I am sick of this trope. Make his parents imprisoned for teaching him magic or someshit.

Any books with interracial relationships?

Is the expeditionary force series any good? If not, any recs? I started a job that requires lots of driving, so I'm looking for a long running series that's not too deep since I'll be starting and stopping it a lot.

>>22467321
>>22467331
No I didn't. Are you looking at the same post? I said that white people know how to use the internet, because they developed the infrastructure for it in their countries first. Lol.

>>22456741
The only litrpgs I want to read are porn. Are any of those porn?

>>22465534
take ur pills
>>22467387
nah, azarinth healer have some sex scenes thats all
jake (primal hunter mc) fucked one succubus and got her 19 levels after fucking all night, thats all

>>22467415
Azarinth's sex scenes aren't actually sex scenes. They're just "sex happened" fade to black stuff.

>>22467415
>jake (primal hunter mc) fucked one succubus and got her 19 levels after fucking all night,
when?

>>22467387
>The only litrpgs I want to read are porn. Are any of those porn?