/lit/ - Literature

>>22356785
Read faster and it will go away. Personally, I don’t really see the point in trying to read super quickly. It makes it difficult to take in and think about the information before just moving on to the next thing.

Helpful video:
https://youtu.be/5yddeRrd0hA

>>22356785
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4WMHyUhdc&t=113s

>>22356856
His buzzcut + beard are annoying

>>22356785
So this is how people with down syndrome picture themselves (viz., Chad). Interesting.

>>22356785
And that's a good thing, absorb all information the book you are reading provides; this is what "CHADS" do.

>>22356785
>how do I stop inner monologuing?
Have you tried not using your inner monologue?

Why would you ever want to kill your internal monologue in the first place anyway? If that’s the way that your mind processes information then why change that? That’s like a painter with 20+ years under his belt deciding to only paint with his feet from now on.

>>22356785
damn chud ,playing tic tac toe in your brain again?

>>22356785
The inner monologuing is the point if you aren't an NPC... At least if your mental tangents bear some relation to what is on the page.

>>22357721
>If that’s the way that your mind processes information then why change that?
>Even simple books like C&P are a a grind at 12~ pages/hour

>>22359029
C&P is a grind

>>22356785
What does it mean to read without "internal monologuing?" Isn't that just what reading silently is?

>>22359150
A lot of people have the little boice in their head “speak” when they are reading.

>>22359188
Only genuine retards lack an internal monologue

Even fast readers have a monologue. Perhaps your internal monologue just isn't fast enough? There's a few ways to read faster, look them up.

Personally, I read about 280 words per minute, so I can typically finish a 90,000-100,000 word book in about 6-7 hours usually. If you can get there, you can easily squeeze in a book a week even if you already have a decently busy schedule.

That said, some heavier books are can definitely slow you down. Some of the more academic/dense philosophical books have me at about 150-200 words per minute.

>>22356785
I don't understand what people mean by abstract thoughts. Are you dreaming while not asleep? I only have language, images, sounds, equations, statistics. I think you all are just stupid enough to never develop your thoughts. You don't play out three layers of understanding and interpretation in your heads, you don't think in other people's emotions, you don't create graphs and assign percentages in your imagination.

>>22356785
>Anyone with a mind-reading device can tell what he is thinking
Delete this

>>22356785
It's: internal monologue -> visual thinking -> abstracts(i am here) -> divine realizations

>>22356785
>12~ pages/hour

>>22359668
They're subconscious thoughts, merged into the conscious, which cannot be translated into human language. You have to experience them to understand

>>22359188
>A lot of people have the little boice in their head “speak” when they are reading.
aka: lights hit retuna->language processing->word meaning->concept understanding

cut out the middle man (language processing, word meaning), just because language processing-> word meaning is methodical and proven to work doesn't mean it's the most effective

>>22360065
Some people read slowly. M'kay.
I can only do like 22 pages an hour.

Do not fall for the speedreading meme. Just keep reading regularly at your own pace and you'll make improvements in speed gradually without losing comprehension. Be patient about it

>>22356785


Every conscious & thinking person has an internal monologue, regardless of whether it primarily consist of image, or text, or sound, or combinations of either of the three.

Anyone who is conscious mentally vocalizes, and it is also what happens when on reads: the subtler, and more needless, that one is, the quieter, and the more direct/immediate, is the voice of one's consciousness, void of any superfluous enactment.


Equilibriated consciousness is ever seated on the middle summit: as in action in general, so in voice in particular.

The mediating nature of conciousness is most easily observed when reading unfamiliar stresses, and/or intonations, and/or rhythms, in the way that its sybillation tends to syntect the median between the presented text, and the applied architext, afterward supplementing its knowledge with the learned context.

The process of reading is a microcosmic version of bringing order to anything in life.

>can't switch between internal monologue and non verbal cognition
skill issue as they say

>>22359668
>>22360117
NTA but explain more

>>22357721
internal monologue isn't by itself a good thing. an uncontrolled internal monologue is sign of inability to focus and determine which thoughts are important and which to shut out.

>>22357161
>fashion is most important thing
pretty gay thought you expressed there.

>>22356785
What do you mean "internal monologue"? You mean you can't read anything without a dozen voices coming to you? no idea what this is. even trying to cast my mind back to preliterate times I cannot relate to this.

>>22356790
>>22356856
not clicking this but the thought is good; many people who claim to "read fast" are illiterate and just do a keyword scan over a page of fuzzy text until one key jumps out at them, then react to it.

this is called hidden illiteracy.

>>22361821
yes, gain-a-function for your illiteracy by pretending new information is "unimportant."

>>22360661
Do you have any evidence to back that up? Show me your internal monologue right now. Prove to me that you even exist, let alone think. Come now specter and free me and my lonesome despair.

>>22361909
shut the fuck up retard

>>22356785
I've recently started reading aloud to myself. Am I retarded for this? My cat seems to like to listen

>>22356785
I've known 3 people that didn't sub vocalize. All three were very intelligent and could read quickly but none of them were exceptional when it came to literature comprehension. The first was a physics engineer, the second was a marketing manager, and the third was a film producer. Despite two of them being in "creative" fields, none of them had an artistic sensibility and, beyond their specializations, all three were social and aesthetic conformists.

Practice meditation is my suggestion, I used to be the same way but now I'm a fair bit faster now.

Do a simple lil mantra meditation, on your inhale think "Saht" and on your exhale think "Nahm". The hippy dippy meaning of these word can be irrelevant if you want to here if you don't like that kind of stuff. It's just to occupy the verbal parts of your brain. Look up some other guides from people who can explain it better than me too.

Eventually it will get easier to not get swept up in the internal chatter. I would still recommend getting into a little relevant internal chatter, since that's obviously part of active reading

>>22357170
T. Npc botlib without internal monologue and almost certainly a homosexual and a tranny

>>22360065
I had classmates back in high school reading a mere 5 pages an hour so it could be much worse

>>22356785
Maybe stop being a stupid fucking loser that obsesses over his mental illness?

>>22357715

>>have you tried being a brain damaged NPC?

>>22362830
you what—

I read out loud like the Romans did. Word for word, often I stop to ponder about a sentence I liked, and how it relates to other things from the book and my life. Then when I have finished a paragraph I do/read something else. This way I slowly read and process multiple books over a week or two. This greatly helps with long-term remembrance. I still read at least 100 pages per day. per example, I am reading 1 paragraph of German Genius (1000 pages) a day. This way it takes me 100 days to read, but every reference to previous material is crystal clear to me.

>>22362746
you're retarded for having a cat.

>>22360065
>>22360209
>>22362830
>i do 80 pages/hour
feelsgood man

>>22363750
incredibly based

>>22356785
>he still subvocalizes
>he doesn't ascend to Bohdisatva every time he reads

>>22356785
Howard Berg (fastest reader ever world record holder) tells you to go faster until you can't comprehend what you're reading, and then slow it down a little bit until you can.
He advocates doing regular reading exercises where you read faster than you can comprehend, in order to instruct your subconscious and train your brain to begin to take in more information while you read.
He also tells you to use your hand to guide your eye (this helps a lot with speed and comprehension)
He wrote a book called 'Super Reading Secrets' which I'm currently reading myself. It has some exercises and tips and so on.
He has various techniques to get you to read extremely fast with greater conprehension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1OsjGCnZZw
There's also the Evelyn wood method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x6o0-ao5y8

>>22364282
I doubt you read a page every 45 seconds, anon.
Unless you are proving your mettle with picturebooks, in which case I do believe it.

>>22357721
Because internal monologue is slow and limited. Try for example to tell yourself how gravity works with words instead of just imagining it with a 3D model in your head.

>>22364282
>80 pages/hour
Personally I read a ~400 words page in 75 seconds. So about 48 pages per hour.
I move my finger right under the text I'm reading and it helps a lot with keeping focused and moving the eyes easily.
I've just begun training to improve it.
What techniques do you use anon?

>>22356785
Discarded. I've embraced my daemon to the point of near psychosis and it has greatly improved the way I live my life.