/lit/ - Literature

>>21995381
I don't need an entire, newly refurbished building to read books op.

>>21995381
Tbh, I don’t really give a fuck about the proliferation of stupidity/stupid people because all it means to me is I look like an intellectual giant compared to them.

>>21995509
Short sighted: there will be no one in the future to appreciate your intelligence

>>21995381
libraries would look nice if zoomers actually went there

>>21995381
You gonna act shocked when you find out sports teams that bring in a lot of money have better facilities than public libraries?

I stole so many books from the library when I went to uni. I’m sure I more than made up for the tuition money.

So?

>>21995555
Fatalistic: there are always rich people willing to pay for the best and most sophisticated of everythinf

The concept of college football in and of itself is a travesty and abomination.

>>21995408
>r/latestagecapitalism
God I hate "socialists" so fucking much. They are worse than retarded, they're retarded and conceited

>>21995605
it's the only sport today where fandom is rooted in localized working class culture. everything else is washed out and capitalized. look at how sad the english premier league has become.

Literature is overtly homosexual as opposed to the more socially acceptable repressed homoeroticism that football and it's sweaty muscular black men provide to the working classes.

>>21995649
I’ve started to as of a few years ago

>>21995381
it do be like that. i go to a big 12 school and it takes weeks for them to deal with academic issues, meanwhile i get 10 emails about the football team to my student account

>>21995569
That's a used bookstore.

>>21995569
Imagine the mold

For some reason I thought they were draining the piss and shit from locker room toilets into the library and spent a full 15 seconds trying to figure out why

For that 15 seconds I inhabited a much darker world

If you went to LSU you are probably a retard anyway so there is no point in even having a library.

>>21995381
>school in the deep south
>The Color Purple

>>21995871
In the future all libraries will be full of the shit from the toilets of sports team locker rooms, the will use shakespear sonnets as toilet paper and talk about the millions they made by winning the game

>>21995649
God bless, sister

>>21995381
My university has like 5 shelves in a study hall and that's it. One of the top schools in Canada as well, it's miserable

>>21996103
which uni?

>>21995381
I am 100% for defunding libraries.

Universal literacy was a mistake. It's a waste of time and resources to teach most people how to read and the end result is the general dumbing down and debasement of literature to accommodate people who have no business looking at it.

Pic very much related. Let people read who want to, and leave it at that.

>>21995381
Louisiana is not a society

>>21995408
You don’t need one to play football either.

>>21995663
What working class culture? It’s rooted in beer drinking and television watching. Which truck brand do you prefer?

>>21996133
always been a ford guy when it came to trucks

>>21996129
A university that you have to gain admission to and pay for isn’t exactly “universal literacy”.

>>21996129
That greentext would be alot funnier if it was a little bit shorter

>>21995381
https://www.fox26houston.com/news/top-10-highest-paid-us-employees-all-head-coaches-texas-am-jimbo-fisher-earning-9m

football coaches make 10million a year with your tax dollars

>>21996138
>people are taught how to read in college
You are a perfect example of what I said.

It's also worth noting the entire public school process is a training and indoctrination program for these universities. Don't pretend like it's volitional.

>>21996129
>I am 100% for defunding libraries.
I am too simply because we have the internet now.
I can't believe the local morons voted, during the lockdowns, to spend massively more on schools and libraries, during a time that was proving how antiquated they are.

>>21996145
I hate this country

>>21996145
>>21996196
They aren't paid by tax revenue you morons. Top tier NCAA athletics makes a fuckton of money for schools

>>21996205
This. Are people really this retarded?

>>21996213
It's funny how as soon as sports discussion comes up in academic circles they naively fumble their spaghetti

>>21996205
>>21996213
You the dumb ones.
>hurr durr they aren't paid by taxes
>the school pays them!
>the school that gets almost all of its money from student with student loans
>totally not taxes, nope

>>21996226
I, for one, am shocked that a SEC school invests more in their football team than their library

>>21996233
What are boosters?

>>21996103
nigga probably goes to Brock lmao

>>21996145
Ok now tell us how much revenue the team brings in via television licensing, merchandise, and game ticket sales plus concessions. Oh it’s more than $10 mil huh.

Sports are the least worthless things happening at universities

Capitalism cares about supply and demand. Let us have a society that cares about hedonism and physical pleasures, it'w what the people want after all.

>>21995663
American football culture is the most vapid, consumeristic, alcoholic, and downright retarded aspect of American society there is. Absolutely nothing of value would be lost if tomorrow every last football stadium was demolished and every retarded and brain damaged player was forced into the labor sector and its fans had to build real hobbies and personalities.

>>21996333
>Absolutely nothing of value would be lost if tomorrow every last football stadium was demolished and every retarded and brain damaged player was forced into the labor sector and its fans had to build real hobbies and personalities.
you could say the same of most hobbits in the west
it's not the indictment you think it is

>>21996338
>you could say the same of most hobbits in the west
Hobbies such as what?

>>21996131
Sure you do. Libraries are largely useless now anyway.

>>21996233
Anon pointed out how much money sports makes, retard. You're just mad you sucked at gym.

>>21995381
I literally only went to my university's library once for a library science class. I could find every text I needed online at home.

>>21995663
Sports and sports "culture" only ever bring out the worst in people. Having sports associated with educational institutions is only a detriment to those institutions.

>>21996437
They bring in a fuck ton of dough

>"I never used the library at my school kek"

This is why you work at McDonalds, anon.

>>21996437
It used to be that sports were a personal thing to you and your community. That team? It's lads from your hometown. Shit, you probably knew a few of them. So, when your team wins, it was your guys out there kicking ass, so, not shit you'd get excited all over it.
That's a bit lost these days with Ngubu and co. getting traded from team to team. That, combined with the general decline in patriotism and local culture, means that the only people who care about sports these days are the most violent, stupid, heavily fluoridated zogcattle.

>>21996440
Most college sports programs lose money, and even then I'd need to see a breakdown of the profits to make sure they're spent on things that actually benefit the school.

>>21995381
There are plenty of good libraries, fear not. I went to a midling libart meme school, and the library was immense. Five floors of tons of out of print, old, rare, everything. It wasn't too comfy after some renovations, but if that crappy school had that, I'd imagine there are some stellar libraries in the US. We are gonna make it bros. Even some public libraries can be really nice.

>>21996445
nak4dashi

>>21996133
>beer drinking and television watching.
Pinnacle of prol culture

>BRO THE CENTURIONS ARE GONNA CRUSH THE BACON BOWL THIS SEASON
>HELL YEAH BRO YOU SEEN SHANASTY BODKINS? 6'4 270LBS RAN A 4 4 40 LAST FALL
>YEAH BUT HOW IS HE GONNA GET PAST DAVONKUS JACKSON? 6'8 450 LBS 7'3 WINGSPAN 40 INCH VERT AND HE CAN TRACE HIS ANCESTRY BACK TO SHAKA ZULU AND TUTANKHAMUN
>DUDE HE'S GOT SKIP NASH THROWING FOR HIM SKIPS 7'1 GOT 15" HANDS AND CAN THROW A SPIRAL 200 YARDS AND PUT IT ON A DIME
>AND HE'S GOT COACH O'SHALAYLEE BREAKING DOWN THE PLAY DUDE'S GOT A MASTERS IN BUSINESS FROM YALE AND 55 INCH CRANIUM
>EVER SINCE ARI LENDSTEIN BOUGHT THE FRANCHISE WE'VE LOOKED UNSTOPPABLE DUDE'S GOT A 38 BILLION DOLLAR NET WORTH AND RECITES THE TORAH OVER 50 TIMES A DAY FOR THE PAST 70 YEARS
there's nothing more gay, jewish, and a waste of time like actively following and enjoying sports
it rots the mind

>>21995871
>For some reason I thought they were draining the piss and shit from locker room toilets into the library and spent a full 15 seconds trying to figure out why
same

>>21995381
No one on Reddit reads or cares about books especially the “leftist” subs

>>21996376
Name three more places besides libraries where I can go without having to buy something

>>21995564
This, fuck nerds also

I agree with mr. redditor here>>21997001

Organized sports are a waste of time. Football, American or otherwise, is one of the most decadent aspects of our civilization. More decadent than TV and video games. Sports are pure consumerism.

I once believed they're just one past time among many others. And, they encourage physical fitness and discipline.
Ah, but most sports fans I know, as I now realize, are perennially unhealthy, addicted to fast food, booze, and cigarettes. It amounts to watching TV, making one no more athletic than watching Fistful of Dollars makes you a crack shooter. Not that playing them is always better, for the long term. My cousin has permanent brain damage and memory loss from playing high school football.
The problem is not necessarily with sports themselves, but the diminishing returns on prioritizing them as a major cultural enterprise. Someone who watches too many movies or plays too many video games is, at least, getting exposed to varieties of experiences. No matter how frivolous and foolish, they absorb some culture. But watching a franchised sports game (as opposed to say, the Olympics) is the same repetitive thing for hundreds of hours. And it's not cheap.
They're also a substantial expense to the educational system. You hear, "they bring money." This is actually bullshit. Some universities, a little more than a third with sports, get substantial revenue gains, but according to the NCAA, the majority will run sports programs at a net loss. High school sports are a total loss. Not to mention the harm it does to education by introducing thousands of unqualified students on the basis of sports scholarships. I knew some of these guys in college. A few were articulate and intelligent, but others had the raw intellect of a brick. They change the standards for these people (niggers).

Society turns these dummies into heroes. Professional football players think they're seriously important people.

>>21997105
for someone with such politically inspired opinions, the diplomatic nature of international sports evades your grasp. your entire post equates to
>hehe SPORTSBALL GO TEAM!

>>21995381
Haha I examined all the stages and this one is the late stage!!!
https://youtu.be/Tdr-NqKAzQE

>>21997125
he's entirely right. Diplomacy through sport is fake, just look at the Napoli team winning the scudetto after 33 years: everyone talks of "social victory" for the poor people of Naples and southern Italy - no one is going to give them any fucking money, though. It's all placebo and stupidification for the masses, so now that they have a football cup they can stop complaining about their condition.

None of you are intelligent because you don't like sports

>>21995381
It's all disingenuous. These same socialists who virtue signal about libraries are the same people who want to ban all books anyway. Do you think that these left wing faggots actually care about literacy and education? It's all phoney talking points. They want you living in a pod eating onions bugs.

>>21997151
Florida and all the other red states are the ones passing book banning legislation anon

>>21997125
For all it's worth, we can replace sportsball with organized shitting competitions, where each country sends a team of professional shitters to publicly shit and fart in massive stadiums seating thousands of people. All televised internationally.

>>21997139
They are entertainment, can bring people together, and make a lot of money. Get your testosterone checked

>>21995871
same lmfao

>>21997158
I don't care about your faggot tranny books you disgusting left wing freak. I hope they burn all of them.
I was talking about real literature, which you people want to ban. Aldous Huxley and HG Wells and Bertrand Russell spelled it all out several decades ago.

>I DONT like the popular thing
>I am therefore more interesting than you

>>21997165
they are entertaining only if you have a 2 digits IQ, and I don't think that having ravaging bands of drunken idiots serves any purpose. They make a lot of money for very few people, as does the whole entertainment industry, which is build with the only aim of giving you "more of the same", i.e. making you stupider by never exposing you to anything new.
New doesn't make a lot money, does not entertain without effort, and pushes you to be alone and think, which is healthy for you every once in a while.

>>21997170
Lmao shit like 1984 and Catcher in the rye are getting banned for sexual content and you still seething about trannys

>>21997180
You're a social outcast who is a midwit

Jay Dyer said that he revisited the library of his old university recently and almost the entire philosophy section was gone. He said that they used to have a whole floor for philosophy, but now all that is left is one shelf, and the only books that they kept are Marxist trash and a few basic Catholic theology books.
He says this is not an accident. It is very much intentional. They are throwing books away.
The globalists do not want you to read philosophy or think deeply. Neil Degrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins literally even say it outright. They tell people not to read philosophy. They don't want you to question anything. Thinking is problematic. Just get the vaccine and slurp the onions latte and eat the bugs.

>>21997180
So give me some examples of something that makes money for everyone. I think you are forgetting the tourism factor too. Baton Rouge make a lot of money during game day weekends, restaurants, hotels, bars, etc. Then there is the money made off of tv deals and advertisements. Those companies make more money, they can pay employees more, hire more people or provide more people with jobs. Then there is the gambling aspect. Lots of money there. I don’t think you are as smart as you think if you don’t realize the gravitational pull of a sports team as far as economics go. Once again, get your testosterone levels checked

>>21997275
Tourism is for people with 2 digit IQs too

>>21997206
Ok, chud.

>>21995381
A library doesn't need bells and whistles.

>>21997284
not an argument

>>21997286
I wasn't trying to make an argument, chud.

>>21997288
shut up

>>21997290
not an argument

>>21997279
>I'm too le smart to be entertained
enlightened atheist

>>21997296
I told you to shut up.

>>21997302
Kys sportsballer

>>21997279
>too poor to travel. Too low T to enjoy sports

Hell of a life your living

>>21997319
>AHHH A BOOGEYMAN
are you like the football player who thinks he's important, or high-brow entertainment who also thinks he's important? you're very entertaining.

>>21997323
>your living
iq of a man who watches africans run around

>>21997329
>he says posting on 4chan with everyone else
you will do quite possibly anything to feel better than a literally who

>>21997174
>too conditioned to write out nigger

>>21995569
Comfy

>>21995569
>let me guess, you need more?

>>21996451
>Most college sports programs lose money
Yes, female underwater hockey and nerdball. Football and basketball pay for the rest.

>>21995674
>it is sweaty muscular black men provide to the working classes
Pseud

>>21997139
You guys sound like gay atheists wondering why people aren't just le rational.
Symbols and tribal behavior matters.

>>21997158
It is so amazing to me still how lefties can do X for years unapologetically then turn around on a dime and accuse their opponents of doing X without blinking.

>>21997329
So pointing out a typo is your way of defense?

>>21997381
It was always christian groups banning books before this tranny stuff kek. You guys are definitely zoomers

>>21997401
This. Sad to see /lit/ mostly populated by 14-20 year olds who don’t read. Dire times

>>21996129
Pic is a lie. Those texts don't exist.

>>21997401
I meant general censorship. The left has turned censorship and propaganda into the air we breathe but a few parents objecting to gay porn in their elementary school has suddenly made lefties into first amendment extremists.

>>21997206
its easier than ever to read any classic of philosophy whatever you want from plato to thomas to nietzsche
the reason most people dont do it is because theyre vapid consumers not because the nefarious jew is stopping them

>>21997410
Sad to see midwit redditors repeating idiotic memes. It has always been lefties censoring books (you can easily find every book Christians have tried to censor, you are unaware of the existence of most books lefties have censored)

>>21997414
Your brain has been turned into right vs left mush.

>>21997418
It has always been the ends of the spectrum into book banning, whether the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, or Christian extremists burning Harry Potter. To act like the far right is innocent is either lying or misinformed

>>21995381
In all fairness, I don't think most people who attend LSU can actually read.

>>21997418
>redditors
Why are you faggots so obsessed with this site?

>>21997419
Notice how they (lefties) like to trot out this line when it is them being criticized?

>>21997438
NTA but you realize many people use both 4chan and Reddit? There aren’t many literature forums so it’s best to have your fingers in all the pies, especially with the demise of /lit/. Kinda tired of the tribalistic mindset desu

>>21997425
What books have the far right in America successfully censored in the last 50 years?

>>21996352
Football, football, and futbol, for starters.

>>21996205
Only because we as a society decide to direct so much of our money towards sports. They aren't mining bitcoin.

>>21997158
Name one book that's banned in Florida. Why do so many leftists insist on putting books with pictures of fellatio in libraries for children? That's rhetorical, we all know why, groomer.

>>21997460
None because there are no banned books. I can still buy Huckleberry Finn, The Turner Diaries, The Communist Manifesto, etc. Not only can I buy them but I won’t get arrested for buying them

>>21997476
Much easier to buy the communist manifesto or harry potter than the turner diaries though yes? Pretty much any far right book is hard to come by, by and large. Major publishing houses won't touch them, libraries won't stock them, bookstores won't sell them.
School libraries DEFINITELY won't carry them. Imagine if they had the turner diaries?
But it's not even a possibility, not a consideration. Which shows the way things work.

>>21997495
I can order The Turner Diaries is a couple minutes, same as any other book. Major publishers, bookstores, Amazon, etc are private companies. They can stock whatever they want. Just because Amazon doesn’t carry a book doesn’t mean it is banned

>>21996129
I would totally read Tampons, Pads, and Ironclads.

>>21996445
I used the library at my schools and I'm unemployed.

>>21997507
Very reddit response.

>>21997469
>we as a society decide to direct so much of our money towards sports
Your point? Physical competition is (and always has been) integral to the human experience. Complaining that others find sports entertaining just makes you seen resentful because you were never good enough to play them.

>>21995381
This brings you to think that people are obsessed with technology because they want to spend less energy, then reading a book is for these people a titanic imprese and near no one want to invest in books in general.

But if you see, every technology product needs a book, a manual of instruction for example.

The plebs were more instructed in these people.

This brings you to think that people are obsessed with technology because they want to spend less energy, then reading a book is for these people a titanic imprese and near no one want to invest in books in general.

But if you see, every technology product needs a book, a manual of instruction for example.

The plebs were more instructed than these people.

People like to be entertained and turn off thinking. It's been this way for millennia.

>>21996129
the stonewall Jackson one is pretty good lmao

>>21997654
>It's been this way for millennia.

Not only for millennia did these things.

These people can vote, then is not a surprise that the world is fucked.

>>21995381
Lmao like I care. I’ve always argued that the lower classes should remain ignorant. Everyone isn’t meant to be a scholar or an intellectual.

>>21997654
It’s been this way forever

>>21995509
AI makes individual intelligence worthless while maintaining the value of status signaling and social skills.

>>21997713
>AI makes individual intelligence worthless while maintaining the value of status signaling and social skills.

Change your pusher.

AI can be useful for science and how support everyday life, but without intelligence, a human can't be a human.

>>21995381
I live in your moms pussy

>>21996333
Trips of truth. The tedium of sitting in my dispatch office every day before driving my routes, listening to my coworkers talk about football minutiae, is exhausting during peak season. Even then, between the draft, combines, recruiting, etc., the football talk never ends. It’s a shame because my coworkers are actually interesting people, but their brains are rotted by the SPOORTS parasite.

>>21997495
My university’s library had a copy of The Turner Diaries. Just looked it up and it is still there.

>>21997105
Player salaries should be capped at like 200k. Just throwing/kicking balls around.

>>21997864
Are you mad that the market says their skillset is more valuable than yours?

If you’re white, you shouldn’t even be watching a sport whose athletes are predominantly thugs and offspring of thugs. If you are white, you should be watching the white man’s sport: gockey

>>21997903
Hockey* just woke up; houmenta

>>21997864
Ok communist

>>21995381
Jarvis pull up the racial demographics of LSU

>>21997507
>doesn’t mean it is banned
You can go to jail for owning that book in a lot of Western countries (shipments of it get confiscated at the border) and actively taking away distribution in the US (including through public libraries) is effectively banning the book. It's so fucking weird seeing leftists argue for censorship using the "private companies can do what they want" argument. The shift in propaganda after Occupy really passified you guys. "Le banned book" also turned into a marketing tool, kek.

>>21997206
>He says this is not an accident. It is very much intentional. They are throwing books away.
I work at two university libraries, and we do throw out a large amount of books. Usually because they aren't read, aren't relevant to the courses being offered, have become outdated or superseded by other books, or simply because there's not enough space and something has to go.

>>21996103
>One of the top schools in Canada as well, it's miserable
If it's Peterson's former school, UofT, it has one of the best library systems in the world. I think it has over 50 physical libraries or something including a rare book one that's basically a museam (Umberto Eco based the library in The Name of the Rose on it).

>>21997934
A poor can dream.

>>21996984
Libraries are where welfare bums go to rent DVDs and homeless people use the bathroom. If you want to go somewhere where you don't have to buy something go for a walk in a public park.

>>21996984
People buy because they want every comfort and after this buying, a person will get depressed because he buys don't think about his wage.

Everyone can go everywhere without paying, but these people are slaves of instant pleasure and they avoid every form of study because the study needs more energy to be a pleasure.

>>21996984
Public parks (I'm sure there are more than 3 in your area), churches (oh no, not there!), museams/art galleries on certain set days of the week ("IT HAS TO BE FREE EVERY DAY!").

>>21995569
I love old moldy libraries, they are so comfy, better than some globohomo piece of shit like those lockers in OP's pic.

>>21996131
BTFO'd.

>>21995674
Good thing I don't read or watch sportsball then, kek.

>>21997881
>>21997934
The market is an utterly pointless abstraction whose failings in both categorical and consequential terms are on full display every day.

>>21997623
Watching a sport is not exercise or physical greatness and this sort of overman posturing running through the thread because a tremendously unhealthy industry gains social priority reeks of dyel hopefuls trying to be one of the cool kids.

>>21998377
You aren't entitled to another's labor, anon. The market is the best abstraction we have for this. Calling it utterly pointless is at best naive and at worst willfully retarded.

>>21998403
This is so far from what the previous poster was saying that it requires traveling through a world where ruling interests don‘t deliberately construct vapid minstrel shows and use mass media to deteriorate social fabric and culture. I shouldn‘t be surprised neolibs have to do these handstands to land back on one of their preferred platitudes but damn did the kikery take me for a loop.

>>21998400
Tell me you were picked last in gym without telling me you were picked last in gym.

>>21997417
Are you remotely aware that the purpose of a university library is to provide access to obscure and remote texts which are essential for research?

that locker-room looks vexing. if I was a player that is already tense because of the game, that lighting and that design wouldn't help.

>>21998458
Tell me your reading comprehension is so poor that you didn‘t pick up I was saying that to actually play a sport yourself is healthy and good.

>>21998472
>I was picked last in gym
Well done.

>>21997864
They make many people so much more money than that. A star player has draw, he generates business in the city he’s playing in on game day, companies make more money advertising when he’s playing, the more people come to watch him play the more stadium workers are needed, merchandise, obviously the team, the stadium and concessions, the list goes on and on. Plus he has a skill set in a cutthroat work environment that few are able to replicate. We do not live in a communistic society. The people who make the most money are the people who can make other people the most money

>NO! STOP FUNDING THE SCHOOL!
>NO! STOP ENCOURAGING COMMUNITY ATHLETIC PROGRAMMES FOR YOUTH!
>NO! STOP PROVIDING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY FOR STUDENTS!

>>21998533
>companies make more money advertising when he’s playing
Pseuds don't realize how much money professional sports generates. I worked in hospitality/tourism when I was a teenager and every time the Yankees or Red Sox came to town everything was at max capacity and sold out.

Professional Sports are the White man's version of BBC cuckoldry porn. They watch obese, sweating and half drunk as gold-encrusted nigs toss a ball back and forth and think "Gosh, had I been that physically competent Stacey would never have divorce raped me!"

Take St. Augustine's words on those who fawn over the coliseum if you don't believe me. At least then the game had stakes, aside from artificial and rigged sports-bets.

>>21995663
It's a simulacra and spectacle. It represents a simulation of local community and civic pride by claiming to represent the area and university, but in practice these are not actual students or residents of the area but athletes from locations scattered across the country being offered fully paid scholarships not for academic prowess or professional skills but athletic ability. What true connection do the teams have with the university and fans? Do they seriously represent the school if none of the players would be admitted to the university in normal circumstances and often do not participate in the actual classes? Now they are paid additional salaries to play in addition to their free ride scholarships. The coaches are paid millions of dollars while they keep raising student tuition fees.

Not to mention, the games are played on weekends, the one time of the week where you are free from work. So the capitalist needs you subdued in your free time and participating in their ecosystem. The worker isn't a threat if they're watching their pro sports product on TV all weekend and buying alcohol, fast food, spending money on sports bets and jerseys and tickets. NFL on Sunday to do it all over again the next day, and then you wake up Monday realizing its back to work and you have no more free time.

Perhaps this critique would not apply to lower revenue generating non glamour sports like golf or something, but for basketball and football they are effectively little more than farm leagues for the professional sports leagues and made up of mercenary pro athletes treating going to the schools as signing contracts with a sports club.

>>21998561
Exactly. Star athletes are a brand/company themselves, so imagine how much more a team generates

>>21995381
college football kids destroy their bodies and don't get paid shit if at all. they generate major revenue for their schools (especially if it's D1). what do they get in return? an education that is already state subsidized in any european country. let them have their tricked out locker room for their tik tok and IG stories. look at the salaries of LSU administrators if you really want to shit bricks.

that being said, that library is horrendous. hopefully it's fixed. bookstores and libraries are a great place to escape the algorithms/hivemind by just randomly selecting a book you might not have been exposed to on amazon or 4chan.

>>21998622
>It represents a simulation of local community and civic pride by claiming to represent the area and university but in practice these are not actual students or residents of the area
yeah i just can't wrap my head around this
what's the point of being proud that the footy team from your hometown is doing well in the footy league if there's just a bunch of foreigners in it and not a single person is from there. not even the coach or the club owner. i just don't understand it and it frustrates me to no end trying. WHY? WHY THE FUCK DO YOU CARE THAT THE NIGGERS AND ARABS AND BRAZILLIANS YOUR TEAM BOUGHT BEAT THE NIGGERS AND ARABS AND BRAZILLIANS THE OTHER TEAM BOUGHT?
i can understand watching sport from the perspective of enjoying athletes perform feats of skill but i don't understand how people care so much about one team beating another as if it makes a difference to them. if it was just local boys from your hometown being trained by a local guy i'd understand it and be glad/sad for them but it's never the case.

>>21998622
These kids are scouted and chose that school among a list. There is more pride in that than a player playing for a team because he was drafted by them. I’d imagine it’s mainly autists who don’t understand rooting interest in team sports. They don’t understand entertainment and that you have watch a team transition throughout the years but the team stays constant and you have a sort of Theseus’ ship. As others have said there is a major sense of community. Center city Philadelphia shut down when the Eagles won the super bowl in 2017 for the parade. There is no other joyous occasion that can do that

>>21996205
If they’re an economic ancillary meant to boost the school there is no reason for school facilities to be in a state of disaster relative to the locker rooms.

>>21998658
I personally made money off of the fact David Ortiz exists and came to my city. Couldn't agree with you more.

>>21996755
in democracy people need to vent out and live vicariously without costing an arm and a leg to the bureaucratic and banking ruling class

>>21998713
How many libraries does LSU have? Why is there only a picture of one aisle from one library? Is it even the main one?

>>21998703
>These kids are scouted and chose that school among a list. There is more pride in that than a player playing for a team because he was drafted by them. I’d imagine it’s mainly autists who don’t understand rooting interest in team sports
i posted>>21998692
and i will say i've found myself rooting for a team where someone from my country/hometown plays than my hometown's team that has nobody i care about in it.
also i root for athletes from my country in solo sports like tennis.
but if someone paid let's say novak djokovoic to represent my country i wouldn't care if he won.

I dont like football because it really just negroes running around and white women cheering for them from the crowd

>>21995381
Why don’t athletes go to football school?

>>21998743
When players are on a professional team they are part of the community in the city. The live in/near it, do charity events in it, people in the city root for the player, etc. Professional teams are pillars in the city. I’m guessing you either don’t live around a major city with a team or you’re in Europe where it may be different. When a player dons your teams jersey he reps the city

>>21998750
Baseball is the white mans sport

American football, like many quintessentially American phenomena, is flashy, vulgar, and materialistic. It is a sport that alienates players from their body, mind and environment, turning it into a utility and sacrificing it for the benefit of the capitalist, putting them at risk of serious injury, concussion, opioid addiction and mental degeneration.

American football is also the vehicle of a bizarre, fanatical culture that idolizes athletes as national heroes, role models and symbols. This is a culture that spends astronomical sums on building gigantic stadiums, buying overpriced tickets, airing incessant advertisements, and producing spin-off merchandise. It is a culture that creates an artificial and ephemeral sense of belonging around local teams that often have no real connection with the territory or the community they claim to represent. It is a culture that uses sport as a means of entertainment, distraction and escape from the social, political and economic problems of the country. The NFL has demonstrated its contempt for the predominantly white working class fanbase that consumes its product and funds the sport and its exorbitant player salaries. The white conservative fan base maintains a complicated relationship with football, as they have complained about the disrespect the NFL has shown for them (most notably in the Colin Kaepernick incident), and the players are largely racial minorities while the fanbase's politics clash with that, yet they continue to consume the sport and engage in a hero worship of the players. They are making these players wealthy millionaires while struggling to survive paycheck to paycheck, and will spew racial slurs at a player when they are performing badly and praise them as a living God when they are doing well. Many have ruined their lives due to this game, both the athletes making physical/mental sacrifices and the fans sacrificing their time spent with family or in intellectual pursuits to watch a meaningless game and engaging in behaviors like sports betting and heavy alcohol consumption. American football reveals the contradictions, illusions and pathologies of American culture, and perhaps that may be why it is so powerful in the US while ignored elsewhere. As a European observer, my opinion is the Americans would be well suited to question this sport and its values, and to create more humane, more creative and more fulfilling activities.

>itt autismo’s try to make sense of professional sports, why they make so much money, and why the city has an invested interest in them. Oh, yeah, race is dragged into too because /pol/cels

>>21998793
No they don't, they travel frequently for games and only train there part time, then can easily drop and leave at any point. They have no vested interest in the community outside of
business

>>21998808
look at this european FAGGOT LMAO

Don’t they know this is a heckin waste?! What the F?

>>21998823
Keep bashing your head in so you can make some dickhead administrator a few more dollars while they raise tuition rates by 500% for actual students.

>>21998814
How many players trash the city when they are playing on the team? The player is invested in himself and the city is invested in the player. Even if Tom Brady hated Boston, he is loved there and that is where his brand is strongest

>>21998377
How is it pointless? The vast majority of people will always be motivated by incentives.

>>21998808
Dude, nobody cares

>>21998808
Euros will type this and then turn around and call baseball boring. And they wonder why Americans don't engage them.

>>21998826
At least some of the racers really were local back then.

>>21997495
You can’t even easily find books by Alexander Dugin. Banned on Amazon. You can buy them from Arktos. How they rule the world is another book difficult to come by. Books are banned all the time.

>>21998905
>>21998899
No argument from the brain damaged American, his brain poisoned by corn syrup overdose and blunt force head trauma

>>21998808
BASED

>>21999077
>spergs about football
NTA but I want to point out you sucked at sports as a kid and have a massive chip on your shoulder because of it. Sad.

>>21999032
Amazon not selling a book doesn’t mean it’s banned. I think the issue is you don’t know what banned means. It means illegal to have

>>21999117
See >>21998017.

>>21998809
>i'm not an autismo because i love niggers
ok

>>21999130
Maybe it’s different in other countries but you won’t be arrested for having it in USA

>>21999104
peak reddit response

>>21999117
You’re such a pedantic fuck. Go ahead and try to easily find this book:

This is what a banned book is. Not 1984 or Tom Sawyer or Debbie has two moms. A book becomes effectively banned when major publishing houses, distributors, and resellers make it effectively impossible to find. It serves the same effect as an outright ban without having the perception (but not the reality) of a dystopian society.

https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2019/jun/27/pedro-banos-how-they-rule-the-world-penguin-antisemitism-julia-neuberger

>>21999156
Corporate censorship is the modern equivalent of book banning and the US isn't the only Western democracy, retard. They're just lucky they have a formal constitution that protects their rights (which the political left now claims as illegitimate as it embodies le systemic racism, kek).

>>21999175
Companies can choose what they want to sell or promote. We aren’t in a communistic country

>>21999187
See >>21999176
>Corporate censorship is the modern equivalent of book banning

>>21999193
So Amazon should be forced to sell something they don’t want to?

>>21999196
If you actually care about books being banned beyond the fact it's used for marketing now Amazon shouldn't be able to ban independant sellers from distributing books that are legal within the country in which it's operating. They banned independant sellers from selling certain books on their platform. That's corporate censorship.

>>21997183
> PTA gets a say about the contents of primary and junior high libraries
No reasonable person defines this as banning

>>21999219
>not stocking pornographic material in public libraries meant for children
THIS IS BOOK BANNING!
>corporations with a monopoly on distribution disallowing certain titles from being sold
PRIVATE COMPANIES HAVE RIGHTS!

Seriously, what the fuck went wrong with leftists? How did neoliberalism co-opt them so effectively?

>>21999196
Regular bookstores shouldn't. But when you have a monopoly, you have... duties that normal businesses don't have.

Handegg is just a retarded sport

>>21999187
We live in a corporate fascist world. Most industries are controlled by just a few large multi nationals. Their management teams even rotate on and out of the public sector. As a consumer yku have no choice. Think of the bud - light boycott. Will it really work when they own so many brands? This is not capitalism.

A capitalist wouldn’t care what the book is even about. As along as they can buy at x and sell at 1.2x then they have a profit. But no, Amazon has standards. And our current standards are we can’t allow “anti semetic” works.

I’m not sure what’s so difficult to understand. More than any time in the recent pass Western governments along with their corporate partners have considerably stepped up the regulation and control of content.

>>21999296
Yeah, image matters. Amazon doesn’t sell pornography even though they sell movies. They believe selling a white nationalist pro genocide book would be damaging to their brand. Kind fucking sick of the victim complex these days. It’s a race to the bottom between pitiful people.

>>21995381
The football team does more for the school than the library, either way ur a fag for posting something outta r*ddit and should commit suicide asap nigger.
>Latestagecapitalism
The fuck does this even mean u fucking troon?

>>21997454
But it red states a Christians banning books that are being criticized

>>21995381
Blame Americans.
If they as a people valued reading over sports it wouldn't be this way.

>>21999452
Once again, how will reading or a library bring in more money than a football team?

>>21999519
Typical American, concerned with economic value above all else.

>>21999527
It’s more the reality than an American thing. The football team pays for the library

>>21999532
Then what we should be asking is where are all the tuition money and student fees going

>>21999519
Because, as he said, the American people value sports over reading. It is the sad reality.

>>21999534
Back into the school

>>21999519
Le hecking good boy dindindussss need to play slaveball for all the N-lovin whites. Idk if we had a university system like Europe, retarded thugs would not be prioritized over academics

>>21999375
The library allows for research to be conducted, which should be one of the primary purposes of an academic institution. The football team is an entertainment spectacle that has become an industry of its own, it has a tenuous at best connection with the actual academic institution. The community aspect is one thing, but why bother associating these entities with the schools and not just treat them as what they are which are effectively minor league teams for pro sports leagues?

>>21999557
I can’t tell if this is satire or real. Poe’s law. Board is shit

>>21999567
>Poe’s law
Go back to plebbit, fag

FUCK SCHOOLS

most athletic programs dont actually make that much money. only the major teams do. lsu is one of them, and its a southern state school so already fairly mediocre academically. however, there are a few schools that maintain high athletic and academic standards such as stanford, uc berkely, and ucla

but some podunk small college with a shit football team that gets like 3000 fans a game isnt bringing in big bucks like the texas longhorns and notre dame.

>>21999581
>post-2016 newfag telling someone to go back

It’s all so tiring and stale

>>21999519
Like I said, if they chose reading over sports, reading could bring in a lot of money.
If the USA was a nation of people who would devour books, libraries could charge more in all sorts of ways, or more taxpayer money could be allocated to libraries.
But few people care that much about reading, so no one is going to pump more money into these places.

>>21999611
Don’t care what some recessed-chin, dysgenic pleb has to cry about since I have been here since 2012, so yes: go back, bud, to your little butt buddies as they whinge just like you

>>21999620
Everyone’s been here that long. They all have farms. They all have money. They all work 2 hours a day. They all have a beautiful trad wife and 4 beautiful sons who learned Greek and Latin when they were 5. It’s typical

>>21999563
A football team provides a focus of community for the student body as well as the larger population surrounding a given academic institution. Aside from both internal and external community it promotes leadership, health, competition, and character. It also generates funding for the academic institution.

Now, we both know the truth is that you sucked at sports and now choose to denegrate such activities because you personally failed to develop the character which sport fosters. You were filtered by physical accomplishment. Sad.

>>21999674
How old are you? Don’t be embarrased and not state your age, just tell us.

>>21999674
cringe- you sound just like one of those rednecks that never left home and always talks about high school

>>21999687
Over 18. Also, see below.
>>21999691
You sucked at sports and cope by thinking you're somehow better than people who didn't.

>>21999691
I play in the NFL

>>21999700
Over 18? And you still talk about this? Wow that’s really pathetic. I was going to make fun of you but now I just feel sorry for you. Good luck with life. I really mean that.

>>21999674
You really showed those nerds, Mr. Redditor!

>>21999711
>I never accomplished anything athletically and harbor resentment for people who did
Cool projection, bro. I feel sorry that it's become part of your personality to denegrate people who enjoy sports. It's actually sad you turned your physical weakness into a weakness in character as well.

>>21997401
>Christian groups
Some small town of 1500 people takes a book out of their local library
>lefties
Savagely mobs the top researchers in psychology and biology discussing race and IQ because they’re science hating lunatics
Definitely the same yeah

>>21997713
Kek let's see the status signaling and social skills of people raised with AI

>>21999711
Wow, you’re right. I thought it was a meme from American movies but this thread really shows there are Americans who think the fact they played sports in school is something to feel proud of later in life. I don’t understand, maybe because in Europe we all play sports and have less fat people so it’s less of an accomplishment. Or maybe because we’re a more literay minded culture.

>>21998607
>St. Augustine’s words on the coliseum
Cope. That flabby Jew felt intimidated by the beauty of the vital muscular Germans battling to the death

>>21996131
>You don’t need one to play football either.

You need a top class locker room to impress potential blue chip recruits. You don't need an impressive library to recruit people for academic purposes. I guarantee that none of that shit has been checked out in years. It's just a trash pile. When I went to college, I only checked out like 3 books by Celine and none of them had been checked out since the 80s. Beyond that, there was a large number of them written in French, and I doubt anyone ever touched those.

>>21999702
I can confirm this. I too play in the NFL.

>>21999187
And when they do that a book is banned, yes?

>>21995381
That locker room is hellish, frankly. Both should be made of cold stone walls

>>21996338
i dislike anyone who gets overly obsessed with hobbies, but sports is an acceptable hobby to have. Sports people could always dish out criticism, but never take it.

>>21996445
We have computers now, personal computers.

>>21996755
That's why they can only view politics as though they are a fan of a team, never objectively as though they were an owner or the commissioner.

>>21999779
> You need a top class locker room to impress potential blue chip recruits. You don't need an impressive library to recruit people for academic purposes.
It’s sad that this is how burgers feel about learning institutions.

>>21997165
Nuanced views. Sports, mainly athletics are fine, but the obsessive is retarded. It does distract people though which i guess is what some people want.

>>21999760
Did I brag about personal athletic accomplishment or did that anon become reactive, project such, and inadvertently admit he harbors resentment as an adult because he sucked at sports as a kid? Maybe he learned about losing through some other avenue, it would be hard for someone like him to avoid that lesson, but I can tell you he sure missed out on the character development that comes with atheltics.

>>21997174
When did right wing people become sports haters? It used to be whiny effeminate liberals who would call it sportsball and proclaim they only watched the Super Bowl for commercials.

>>21999938
> did that anon become reactive, project such, and inadvertently admit he harbors resentment as an adult because he sucked at sports as a kid
I don’t think any of that happened to be honest. It reads like you are incapable if forming a logically coherent argument thus leading you to create a strawman to which you can argue. Anyway, you americans should be proud you played, you’re country is an obese hellhole. In europe we all play so it’s not even anything to ever bring up. It’d be like saying I dressed myself.

>>21999960
>I don’t think any of that happened to be honest
Then you need to work on your reading comphrension, ESL. Also, I'm not American so again: cool projection, bro.

>>21997105
>Someone who watches too many movies or plays too many video games is, at least, getting exposed to varieties of experiences.
lol this is just delusional horseshit. Why did you feel the need to throw this in to justify your own useless, self-destructive habits?

>>21997105
At least back in the Roman days you got to see some guy get mauled to death in live combat. Now its just BS.

>>22000002
> Then you need to work on your reading comphrension, ESL.
No, I think you’re just an obese idiot.

>Also, I'm not American so again: cool projection, bro.
Sure, you’re not. Also, how stupid are you? You’re incapable of arguing without a meme word you picked up on 4chan and have to parrot over and over again because your two neurons are incapable of coming up with an original thought.

>>21998842
football hooligans are the same exact people.

>>22000019
Deaths weren't that common. They happened a lot more, but it wasn't like people were constantly being killed.

>>22000022
>ESL seethe
Even though we can't see one another I'm willing to bet you're a manlet. 5'7, max.
>You’re incapable of arguing without a meme word you picked up on 4chan
What argument? Kek, you denied reality and then sperged about logical fallacies because I pointed out the positive benefits of athletics, retard. Anyway, I want to ask--why the obvious Napoleon complex with the US? Does it make you feel taller or is it fun playing pretend that whatever europoor country you from isn't an embaressing shithole?

>>21998018
I guess that's one way to cope.

>>22000084
I’m dutch, so whatever height you are that you think is tall is no doubt manlet here. Anyway, not an argument. Just more frothing at the mouth because you’rre so stupid. Should have read books instead of playing handegg with the other obese burgers.

>>22000005
>butthurt niggerball watcher

>>22000165
Throwing stones in glass houses here, gaymer tranny.

>>22000151
>I’m dutch
Well that explains being a retard. Imagine being liberated by Canada. Go sniff a tulip, faggot.

>>22000175
lol
>SHANEEL MCWASHINGTON WAS GREAT IN HIS DAY BUT I CANT WAIT TO SEE HOW TYRONE JACKSON WILL DO AS REAR LINEMAN
>DID YOU SEE THE BUTT-PIRATES PLAY THE GAY-RAIDERS LAST NIGHT?
>HAVENT SEEN A PLAY THAT GOOD SINCE NEGRO OMALLEY WON THE NIGGERBOWL

>>22000175
The fact that you enjoy niggers throw balls is established, but the fact that someone draws a comparison to video games and hollyjew movies does not mean they enjoy such things.

>>22000214
I'd rather be a manly gay man then an autogynephile faggot playing my 16th playthrough of Dark Souls.
>>22000229
>The fact that you enjoy niggers throw balls is established
Is that what you think this is about?

Whenever libtards, chuds, and trannies take the same side on an issue you can rest assured the complete opposite is the correct opinion.

>>22000236
>I'd rather be a manly gay man
We know

Haven't read a single post in this thread but sports are only okay in an ethnically homogeneous society where sportsmen aren't faggot princess celebrities. Fat old boomer dads watching niggers chuck pig leather around in circles is indeed a terrible thing. Trannies should kill themselves NOW! DO IT NOW! NOW NOW NOW, KILL YOURSELF!!

>>22000244
>W-We know
HAHAHAHA fucking retard. Enjoy your "varied experiences" playing your vidya games in your dimly lit bedroom kiddo.

>>22000236
They weren't joking when they said football is homoerotic

Niggers don't use the libraries

>>21998808
/thread, the seething burger responses to this proves the point even more. Football fans are retarded subhumans that need to be forcibly reprogrammed

>>21999932
No shit. Nothing obsessive is good though. Even If someone did literally nothing but read or something, that would be bad

>>21999803
No. Banned means illegal. If glass bottles are banned in a stadium and you’re caught you get in trouble

>>21995871
based

>>22000482
>cheerleading corporatism
Holy shit the left is cucked.

>>22000491
Not a leftist at all. Not even very political. I just think it’s retarded that some think if Amazon chooses not to sell a book that means it’s banned. Niggas out here basing their knowledge of the law on what Amazon does. If a restaurant serves Pepsi instead of coke, doesn’t mean coke is banned. You can literally walk into a police station with Turner Diaries and nothing would happen. It isn’t prohibited. Please look up what the word banned means and stop the lazy strawmans. Just because someone points out your wrong, it doesn’t mean they are a corporate shill.

>>22000508
Amazon has a monopoly on distribution to the extent that private sellers need to use its platform as a storefront. Amazon has banned these sellers from listing certain books for sale (i.e. they are exerting control over what may be sold beyond what they themselves actively distribute). Amazon restricting the ability of private sellers to distribute legal material is overt corporate censorship. This is the modern equivalent of banning a book. Simple as.

Further, the US isn't the only Western democracy and it's illegal to own or sell a copy of The Turner Diaries in many of them. Since you're a pedantic retard I'll point out that this means the material isn't just "banned" but literally criminalized. Now, while I disagree with this at least such is decided through a democratic process and not via corporate monopoly (which is a moral hazard when it comes to the US due to the fact its constitution doesn't allow governmental bodies to restrict speech and such falls upon non-democratic entities like corporations).
>Please look up what the word banned means and stop the lazy strawmans
You're literally being pedantic over the word "banned" and misusing the term "strawman," retard. Outside of the US certain books aren't only "banned" but literally criminalized. Within the US unelected corporate entities use monopoly to restrict the distribution of literature. This is the modern equivalent of banning a book in the US.

>>22000000

>>22000613
Good on amazon for making a smart, image-conscious decision

>>22000715
>>22000491

>>22000747
No one buys TTD. The backlash isn’t worth the money they’d make off sales. Something tells me you have poor PR business sense

>>22000758
>>22000747

>>22000812
Amazon has the right to do what they wish. End of discussion

>>22000815
Bootlicking faggot

>>21999563
>The library allows for research to be conducted,
Which has been replaced by the internet and made obselete for a long time
>The football team is an entertainment spectacle
That brings in millions of dollars for the school which im sure is used to pay for academic scholarships so useless poorfags like u can enter. Just because u are fat and sucked at sports as a kid doesnt mean u have to take it out on everyone else. So yeah my statement still stands the football team provides more for the school overall and is more productive.

>>22000815
>>21999248

>>22000820
This nigga wants corporations to be controlled by the state. Fucking commie

>>21997434
I go to LSU and can confirm this.

>>22000969
>>22000508
>Please look up what the word banned means and stop the lazy strawmans.
>strawmans
Same anon?

>>22000815
>Amazon has the right to do what they wish. End of discussion

>>21997174
>I DONT like the popular thing
>I am therefore more interesting than you
this but unironically

>>21999941
Things are all topsy turvy at the moment. Best to stay away from cultural warriors in a free fall lest they drag you down with them

>>22000991
Yes? Get on Antelope Hill or whatever it’s called for not publishing radical left books

>>22001030
>WHATABBOOT THIS NO NAME PUBLISHER I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF!
>LEAVE AMAZON ALONE!
The guy who called you a "bootlicker" was bang on.

>>21998687
They get do get paid. A lot.

>>21995569
ah, i've been there. sat in that chair too. do you happen to be a reader of certain german authors?

>>21998741
There’s three. This is middleton, the main one.

>>21996129
>the end result is the general dumbing down and debasement of literature to accommodate people who have no business looking at it.
'Child labor' laws tag team with this, so of course you need endless lumpenprole imports of hostiles to do retarded moron tasks (like mow lawns Boomers are too good to cut themselves). It's about farming a biomass of infotainment propaganda receptive cattle and little else.

>>21996333
>American football culture
The franchises being able to decamp wherever they please if the cities they're based in refuse to be extorted for a new stadium once every decade or two make it all the more plastic; this is the real appeal of baseball, which has been more resistant to this and still has some legacy venues.

>>21997105
Sports are good, non-private/community run feeder leagues and institutions are not.

>>21998541
Fewer basket ball american basket weaving degrees the better, Mammon stan.

>>21998808
>American Football is an RTS game invented by Ivy Leagues that is primarily played between head coaches, not the players themselves
It's checkers to rugby's chess to be sure.

>>21999674
College ball in general is wildly inferior to feeder leagues with organic small city/town support bases, it is night and day in comparison to Euro football, Rugby ect. They outlawed athletic clubs and martial arts in post-war Japan for a reason (and the US colleges hoovering up resources serve a similar purpose).

>>22001239
>It's checkers to rugby's chess to be sure.
I played rugby (wing) and that's a retarded opinion.

>>21997206
grow a dick you useless cretin

>>21996133
>beer drinking and pickup trucks are high society, not working class