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the conditions that create bordom wont exist

>>21940491
It’s an eternity though.

>>21940497
and?

>>21940499
It would get boring real quick

>>21940491
Wouldn’t that make you lose your humanity though. You would basically become a dog.

>>21940487
it's full of big tittied bitches as far as the eye can see

>>21940506
Lust is a sin

All of the goods and beauty and wonderful in this world, in all worlds of fiction, in all extend of the imagination and fantasy, of all human life, this is but a shadow of the beauty and pleasure of heaven, the least part reflected. The seemingly endless beauty and pleasures of this world are enough to prevent boredom all the days of your life, how much better the nature of heaven?

>>21940511
Lust and aesthetic appreciation of a woman’s beauty are different things. If the latter wasn’t allowed you wouldn’t have the Song of Solomon with erotic bodily descriptions in the Bible.

>>21940529
But when one has immortality, the beauties of Earth do become finite.

>>21940504
>Wouldn’t that make you lose your humanity though
existence is heaven is not the same as normal human existence so yea

>>21940533
but you arent becoming immortal to wander the earth as it is

You think of heaven as just a big amusement part in the sky, which is a fundemental error
don't feel too bad an entire religion (islam) had made this mistake as well
heaven, in my view, is the enternal contemplation of the Divine, which is the eternal reflector of all things on earth, anything Good on earth is an infintely poor imitation of the Divine, so we get bored of it, but God is perfect so you cannot get bored of contemplating him

My idea of Heaven is me sitting up on a cloud, playing a harp and shit
And I can look down and watch all my friends getting raped by the devil down in hell.

>>21940487
because its infinite

>>21940504
>Humans become a race of perfect beings greater than the ethereal angels of the bible - the warriors and messengers for the creator of the universe
>Cannot even comprehend what the afterlife will truly be like. Confines it within a reductive box that only a lower mind, mired by a world sin and severance, could conceive of
>Refuses to open self to the possibility of enlightenment and greater understanding when severance from God is removed
>Clings instead to sinful conceptions of the world like a poisonous blanket of comfort, obscuring the light of God like the morning sun shining through a window on Monday morning

>DURRR, YOU'LL LOSE YOUR HUMANITY THO AND BE GOD'S SLAVE PUPPY 4EVER

>>21940487
You don't have to work. You don't have to kiss your boss's ass. You are beautiful all the time. I think it'll be like one of the memorable summers you have when you're young.
I long for those summers myself. Life have been quite difficult now what I'm an adult. Ah, but we have to live, live well even.

If God wouldn't make eternity fundamentally different from this life, nor would He have us stop following Jesus. Prepare for an eternity of crucifixion, if you want something different you belong in hell as what you do on Earth is just a hoodwink. True Heaven is eternal return.

>>21940487
Because you won't have the same set of faculties that you do now. Boredom is not an emotion - emotions come from subconscious impulses and can be felt during sleep/dreaming, but boredom cannot. Boredom takes place consciously.

>>21940504
> He found the core conflict between secular and religious society

Congratulations fren, now you can find out that all religions are total bunk and God lives entirely within abstract notions that try to deny one simple truth; the human mind is God.

>>21940736
superlative midwit detected

>>21940511
Why did god created such beautiful bodies if he didn't wanted us to appreciate them?

>>21940768
If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of food?

>>21940487
Because most of the greatest minds who ever lived will be there.

>>21940487
you won't. it'll be over quicker than you think when yhwh bakes you into bread. you ARE the wheat, y'know.

>>21940764
Heaven, God, religion itself is a contradiction for anyone who chooses not to kneel. Live knowing you will never understand what is happening to you without chalking it up to some spiritual presence that doesn't actually exist.

>>21940799
I look to the sky, then see my own body, that is why I kneel

>>21940487
Because it's heaven retard

>>21940533
The beauties of earth are finite and fit for a finite life, the beauties of heaven are the beauty of God which is infinite, which is fit for an infinite life.

Do not think of the beauty and fullness of God’s glory as just some golden light or pretty luminous beam, it is the very essence of beauty, it is the very wellspring of the Good.

>>21940633

>willfully dismiss your OWN humanity
>refuse to acknowledge the implications of life
>creates an unrealistic world shaped by ridiculous fantasies as an excuse for his cowardice to live in the absurd world
>sets up an impenetrable wall for his made up paradise by rejecting everything that might endanger his comfort in believing this fairy tale
>he is so deeply entrenched in this little world he think that everyone who believes otherwise is a complete idiot


there is nothing more I despise than people who willingly reject the absurd world and escape all responsibility of facing it for some fanatic ideals. ignorance or lack of intellectual capability for such realizations might excuse them, but for one to deliberately do so despite knowing and having a feel for both sides of the scale is just pitiful.

>>21940633
holy cope

>>21940487


Everyone in Paradise possesses superscopic vision, so you would be able to "zoom" in, and out, as you please.

>>21940487
Our existence in heaven will be infinitely superior than our existence on earth.
>Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”(Revelation 21)

>>21940870
why not just kill the absurd people?

>>21940511
Sin is only applicable in this earthly existence. Once you've passed the challenge here, you can do whatever you want in heaven. Doesn't matter anymore since you're free. Sniff as much ass as you want in heaven. Take a shit on a dog. It's all good.

Personally, I'm going to find it rather riveting to have my skin burned off and replaced for eternity

>>21940506
muslim heaven

>>21941445
>the existential choice of Abrahamism is between eternal boredom and eternal suffering

Damn, Schopenhauer was right again

>>21941457
>he doesn't realize that you cannot get bored contemplating the infinite

However, as it is written: “What no eye has seen, what no ear has heard, and what no human mind has conceived” — the things God has prepared for those who love him—

Sounds exciting to me. I long for this; because my ears, eyes and mind have grown weary of this earth. I keep thinking is this all there is? Trees, planets, lakes, sky.... dirt.... is this it? Sure, it's nice, and as a child it was so fulfilling to me as it was all so fresh to my little eyes. But the magic is gone now.. and I'm thinking "Is this all that there is? Has God made only this much" I want to see what no eye has seen. I've out grown my cage on earth. But I am homesick for a place I'm not even sure exist. And I'm not sure I will ever make it home.

>>21940799
Read this man so you can know how wrong you are

>>21940736
>the human mind is god
learn basic logic, retard.

>>21940487
In Heaven, you play games and have fun. Read The Grasshopper.

>>21941488
can someone please feed this image to AI and get a gud version please

>>21940506
>>21940529
That's ridiculous and you don't actually believe that

>>21940506
>>21941450

This is genuinely what some believe. Eww!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79YFcPyxaZ8

>>21941737
Do you really believe you'll get laid in heaven? Come on

>>21941737
Literally a whorehouse with a garden

I've become convinced you reincarnate eternally - but also at your discretion.
Its the combination of mortality and immortality that keeps life interesting. Ying and Yang.

>>21940487
You won't even be a human being anymore bro, how do you know that boredom will even exist to you?

>>21940733
>Boredom is not an emotion
it sure as fuck is, cretin

it's a fantasy, so just pretend when you need to, as you wish, like most of the people in this thread

>>21940506
t. Muhammad
OP, heaven is not a sensual place. You get bored because your senses are addicted to experiences, like a drug addict. In heaven you will be cleansed of that and love a pure contemplative life.

>>21940487
The limit of your mind's ability to conceptualize things becomes infinite and you can hear everyone's stories. The reason it's not boring is honestly confusing to me and I've seen it. I really am absolutely terrified of eternity and living forever and yet I've seen and loved it at once. All I can say is that it's not lonely and that helps a lot.

haunting children

>>21942194
>at your discretion
What leads you to believe that?
I get the idea behind "non existence can only be communicated through existence" but it seems as though there is no choice actually taking place.
Illusions of free will are useful but that's all they'll ever be; illusions.

This is why I’m an eternal reoccurrence chad

>>21940487
Divine brain alteration. You will never sleep and never tire of revering god and for all eternity

>>21942572
bumping for this desu

>>21940506
>not a single flat chest to be seen
This sounds more like Hell.

>>21941463
That sounds boring as a description, let alone actually doing it

>>21943333
No one will have genitalia or be allowed to even look at one another. All eyes will be fixed on the glory of god.
Hell indeed.

>>21940491
So you'll be an NPC programmed to "enjoy" heaven for eternity.

>>21943500
You have it backwards. You're an NPC right now with limited cognition, memory, routine tasks, herd mentality, social contracts, literally a biological NPC, literally a simulation theory with humans as simulated parts of the universe exists for this reason. In Heaven, you're free from those limitations, essentially no longer an NPC.

You get to hear this on loop for ever:
https://youtu.be/DCo2MIfP16Y

>>21943732
No, now we have free will to join Lucifer or Yhwh. Once trapped in Heaven, we will be fully Non-Player Characters (NPC) programmed to do nothing but revere god forever.
You're a fool

Convert to Islam

>>21940506
>it's full of big tittied bitches as far as the eye can see
If I can't appreciate God's work through the female body then it isn't heaven.

>>21940506
Heaven is this video over and over again

>>21940487
Two simple words:
Beatific vision

>>21940487
yeah exactly thats one of the fucked up things, both your options are pretty shit
>eternity
>nothingness
fuck.

>>21940506
>>21944219
>>21944256

No. Yhwh hates you having sex/erections.
This is Lucifer's garden of hedonism, and not even a video.

>>21940487
We dont gully know what heaven is. We know it's an existence of being in communion with God and that it is good, free from sin, pleague, hinger, worry, and all negative parts of life. Dont see how a life like that can't be interesting. Imo, it's probably like having your best day every day. Being in the best mood, doing what you like and being good at it.

>>21942194
This is the conclusion I came to, except it may not be at your discretion

Also Christ may or may not have sacrificed himself because of that

>>21940487
Unironically study NDEs and realize that there actually is an afterlife and that we are eternal and will go to heaven unconditionally when we die. And NDErs talk about how the light of heaven is so amazing that even standing in one spot for the rest of eternity would be completely fulfilling for you. It goes way beyond your wildest expectations. No one ever gets bored in heaven because you can do anything you want forever.

>b-b-but NDEs are dreams or hallucinations somehow
Already explicitly refuted in the literature you likely have not read on NDEs.

Here is a very persuasive argument for why NDEs are real:

https://youtu.be/U00ibBGZp7o

It emphasizes that NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and when people go deep into the NDE, they all become convinced. As this article points out:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

>"Among those with the deepest experiences 100 percent came away agreeing with the statement, "An afterlife definitely exists"."

Since NDErs are representative of the population as a whole, and they are all convinced, then 100% of the population become convinced that there is an afterlife when they have a sufficiently deep NDE themselves. When you dream and wake up, you instantly realize that life is more real than your dreams. When you have an NDE, the same thing is happening, but on a higher level, as you immediately realize that life is the deep dream and the NDE world is the undeniably real world by comparison.

Or as one person quoted in pic related summarized their NDE:

>"As my soul left my body, I found myself floating in a swirling ocean of multi-colored light. At the end, I could see and feel an even brighter light pulling me toward it, and as it shined on me, I felt indescribable happiness. I remembered everything about eternity - knowing, that we had always existed, and that all of us are family. Then old friends and loved ones surrounded me, and I knew without a doubt I was home, and that I was so loved."

Needless to say, even ultraskeptical neuroscientists are convinced by really deep NDEs.

>>21944475
Based

>>21940487
If you end up in heaven you're already there.

>>21944475
When are going to stop posting this cope? Nobody is buying it

>>21940487
>"damn that was a fun 100 trillion years, but now I'm all out of stuff to do"
>"I wish for my memories to be erased, so that I can have fun discovering and doing all that stuff again"
ezpz