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21795912 No.21795912 [Reply] [Original]

Pessimists say life, in general, sucks, which I agree with. But what about rich sociopaths who only seek pleasure. Even if their happiness comes at the costs of others' suffering, there is no denying that they are happy most of the time. Wouldn't then, hedonism be a perfect counterargument for pessimism?

>> No.21795930

>>21795912
>But what about rich sociopaths who only seek pleasure.
They aren't happy. Why do you think they have to keep going? If their brains worked, they'd stop once they can afford everything that makes life good. They can't stop.

>> No.21796104

>>21795930
They want more pleasure?

>> No.21796181

>>21795912
Been feeling miserable lately. I don't see how any one with any sort of morality could bring another into the world.

>> No.21796228

>>21795912
hedonism doesn't make you happy, it makes you feel pleasure and for that you pay with happiness

>> No.21796260

when we die we go to a world exactly parallel to this one, but we're naked and aren't allowed to cover anything up anymore.

>> No.21796270

>>21796260
based garden of eden

>> No.21796272

Everything is a theology. The higher intelligence of the human, far superior to that of animals, doubts him with more needs. One would think that this also makes him more ruthless and evil; however, the higher intelligence gives him also a reason that creates a theology, as wrong or false as she might be, that impedes him to do whatever he likes for the possesion and fulfillment of his needs. The superiority of the Aryan does not come from a more prolific and constant treatment and polishing of his morals compared to the lower races but by pre-disposing over a larger amount of principles from wich those morals arise. This douts him with a greater individuality and gives him a special authority in everything he says and does.

>> No.21796273

>>21795930
Rich people are generally happy. There was this webm of some faggot getting aids on /tv/, and yet he still was happy in spite of it, then goes out with his mom to shop and they eat a $200 dinner in some posh LA restaurant. It sends me into a tizzy just thinking about it. Neither of them work. They don't need to do anything. Live in one of the most expensive areas in the US, and can lead a carefree existence. I garuntee you if I took their money and house from them, both of them would consider it worse than aids. And they probably only just have millions of dollars. Jeff on the other hand had billions. He's happier than anyone on /lit/.

>> No.21796275

>>21796270
yes, but some people are revealed to be the snakes and monsters when they go spiritually naked

>> No.21796281

money only appreciates you if you know how to waste it

>> No.21796308

>>21795912
Someone give me some non-dogmatic hopium that preserves the hope of an afterlife of everlasting sexual bliss? Protip: it isn't this one.

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>>21795930
>>21796104
https://www.unz.com/akarlin/making-it/

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>>21795912
A better counterargument to pessimism is the fact that it will eventually be possible to genetically engineer everyone for maximum possible happiness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx3rdVQZ3mo

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>>21796308
There are many plausible ways an afterlife could exist, but not necessarily one with everlasting sexual bliss.

https://alwaysasking.com/is-there-life-after-death/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65jdcvSOOjI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w13yLq16QiM

>> No.21796427

>>21796308
the universe is originally a Monad that became a Dyad. The dyadic is the principle of sexuality, magnetic polarity, opposition, change, dynamism, evolution. When the oppositional tensions in the Dyad are resolved, there is the universal Triad - which is the sexual bliss you're looking for. In psychological terms, it's the moment when 'you' and 'I' become a third person, a unity, a 'we' or 'they'. This is a cosmic process which cannot be stopped. The apocalyptical struggles of history are between the death-principle which wishes to return the Dyad to a static Monad, and the life-principle which wishes to unite the Dyad in the Triad. All the erotic struggles in our personal lives are these cosmic tensions playing out within us. Falling in love is a revelation of the Triad. Sexual satisfaction is the experience of it in this age of the senses. The pains of love are the pains of the Monad giving birth to the Dyad and the Dyad longing to return to the Monad in extinction. In the end, everything will be united in full erotic bliss (divine Eros) in the universal Triad.

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>>21795912
>>21795930
>>21796104
>For many if not most people, surrogate activities are less satisfying than the pursuit of real goals (that is, goals that people would want to attain even if their need for the power process were already fulfilled). One indication of this is the fact that, in many or most cases, people who are deeply involved in surrogate activities are never satisfied, never at rest. Thus the money-maker constantly strives for more and more wealth. The scientist no sooner solves one problem than he moves on to the next. The long-distance runner drives himself to run always farther and faster. Many people who pursue surrogate activities will say that they get far more fulfillment from these activities than they do from the “mundane” business of satisfying their biological needs, but that is because in our society the effort needed to satisfy the biological needs has been reduced to triviality. More importantly, in our society people do not satisfy their biological needs AUTONOMOUSLY but by functioning as parts of an immense social machine. In contrast, people generally have a great deal of autonomy in pursuing their surrogate activities.

>> No.21796435

>>21796427
Absurd. Anthropocentric in the extreme. What would a race of hermaphrodites or parthenogenic sentients think of your horseshit? I imagine they’d point and laugh

>> No.21796439

>>21796435
prophetically speaking Hermaphrodites are the divine Triad. The future of humanity is the divine Androgyne.

>> No.21796443

>>21796439
False. Pursue the dao, or rather allow it to pursue you

>> No.21796477

>>21796443
the dao is the life-principle, eros.
read Lao Tzu:

>TAO gave birth to One,
>One gave birth to Two,
>Two gave birth to Three,
>Three gave birth to all the myriad things.

>All the myriad things carry the Yin on their backs and hold the Yang in their embrace,
>Deriving their vital harmony from the proper blending of the two vital Breaths.

it's all here

>> No.21797125

>>21795912
Just why does he want so much money though? What is his endgame?