/lit/ - Literature

>>21788794
If your race is going to be destroyed by marxists, you may want to vote based on race. If you are going to be destroyed by the capitalists (or alternatively, proles) vote based on class.
Choose whichever one is expedient. Whites are being raped by both billionaires and marxists. If you vote against the former, your children will be put on hormones, your sons castrated, your women raped, your homeland despoiled by those that don't give a rat's ass about it, and you, your family, and your culture will gain nothing, and even what you care about will be lost. If you vote agains the latter, the same will happen.

I recommend going with the source material. Read Mein Kampf and probably start with Engels, but this assumes you know basic geopolitical concepts.

>>21788865
You described it perfectly. There’s no winning is there?

Why not both?

>>21788865
Nazism is the worst possible avenue for a race and class derived worldview. All you’ll become is a bitter social pariah who will achieve nothing for that dead cause. Racialists should move on.

>>21788915
That's your opinion and based on your personal values. If an individual doesn't want to be destroyed on the basis of being a privileged race, or he wants to save his culture, you have nothing but moral arguments against him like
>But it will le better for more people (he doesn't care)
>But less suffering (he doesn't care)
>But more efficient (he doesn't care)
>But we are all one race (he doesn't care)
You can try to force your moral values on him. But it probably won't work. He loves his family, he loves his culture, he loves the people that are being torn to pieces for no good reason.

>>21788904
How? The left hates whites and the right hates the poor.

>>21788901
The answer, incidentally, is not Nazism. A racial unity based on racial nationalism is better. A black nation and white nation united is better than one together, divided against one another for capitalist/marxist/etc interests. Even if one were to say that separate nations can be divided, there is no difference between unity between monoethnic states and unity within polyethnic states as a goal for conflict reduction.

>>21788794
Just so you know marxists don't care about voting in bourgeois elections. (Inb4, I'm aware many "socialists" screech about the importance of voting but most people calling themselves marxist, socialist or communist are really none of those things but part of the political coalition of the left-wing of capital) The only reason Marx was in favor of parliamentary politics in some cases is that back then capitalism was still in its ascendant phase and the state hadn't been fully subsumed by capital yet.

>>21788944
the right doesn't inherently hate the poor, they hate modern poor people because modern poors are overwhelmingly blacks, junkies, or other "undesirables". If we had some sort of noble farmer underclass as poors, the right would love them

>>21788944
The left hates whites
The right hates the poor
But they hate the rich more

>>21788794
The one that’s inherently concerned with material conditions and not cultural constructs.

>>21788794
Role a die

>>21788976
Agreed. Jews shouldn't have protected themselves because they were one race, the human race with Germans. It was literally just human vs. human friendly fire. The material conditions of a race are just socially constructed, and the future of their race was a social construct. Individual Jews should have realized that they had no material tie to the "race" of Jews, and that on average, the material conditions of the people in Germany were increasing.

Brilliant!!

>>21788991
Why couldn't jews have been satisfied with the revolution? They were selfishly hanging on to their cultural construct instead of realizing that their dismantlement was necessary to uplift the majority.

>>21788976
cultural constructs manifest into material conditions, utter retard

>>21789000
He's had his brain fried by theory. He is incapable of thinking in any term other than what the billionaires that fund his bourgeois thinkers implant into his brain.

>>21788973
Neither of them hate the rich. The right think the rich are deserving of their wealth. The left admire the rich for the moral leadership they provide in advancing leftist programs

>>21789013
Have you seen how viciously hateful the right is of billionaires, big corporations, and bankers? They unironically talk about executing politicians, billionaires, and whatever else while leftists pose with their iPhones and protest Disney being subjected to taxation.
The Right is not capitalism.

>>21788942
But it’s his culture that is moving on. It is him that is staying behind. He could not care all he wants but his culture certainly cares.

>>21789029
Now you're using sophistics to play with the definition of culture. You got filtered by Plato. Perish.

>>21788794
http://www.ruthlesscriticism.com/blankcheck.htm
The Vote – A Blank Check for State Power. Voting is a mistake!

http://www.ruthlesscriticism.com/vote2012.htm
The vote – the free citizen’s moment of glory: Democracy’s feat of transforming discontent into a ballot mark

>>21789024
Depends on the country. Right wingers in America worship the rich.

>>21789031
In America, the white mongrel and the negro have the same national culture.

Class is a better outlook, however that doesn't mean you HAVE to go the Marx route necessarily. It's not like he's the first person in history to have class-based outlook -- even when he was around; or the first to think of historical materialism.

>>21789044
But right wingers here don't.

>>21788998
Jews are probably one of the most bourgeois groups out there. No surprise Marx hated them

>>21789070
>here
Where is that?

>>21788794
>Muh class
If u want ur country to be turned into a third world shithole u can do that.

>>21789044
I've been to a Trump rally. They unironically chanted to break up banks and kill CEOs. They see billionaires as the reason for all of the social issues like cultural marxism. Leftists use pure copium and say "This is highly dangerous to our democracy!!"

You can say "BUT THEY SUPPORTED LE TRUMP!" and that ignores the fact that insiders to the capitalist system have betrayed capitalism, and that many billionaires ostensibly support and fund leftist commie organizations. You can say in the latter case "It's all pretence!" but then you can't say anything about the former because both cases will be your conjecture.
That also ignores the fact that almost all Trump supporters, (even in 2016) at least that I met, picked Trump against Hillary. The Clinton family is extremely rich and all of their choices were shit. If a poor prole ran on a platform of BTFOing cultural marxism and outright executing billionaires, Trumpists would be up in arms to kill Trump as well.

>>21789013
It's the maddest thing that the left get butthurt at Musk being le contrarian culture warrior. Like he's a fucking capitalist billionaire lads. Why are you expecting any kind of morality or decency from him? Your whole project used to be about taking dudes like Musk to the salt mines and shooting them

>>21789063
you've clearly never been to America, the culture of black people in some rust belt inner-city shithole is completely different than white suburbanites in Maine or coastal yuppies from Washington

>>21789078
Yea, just worship the rich, that will work best for you, especially the degenerate propaganda they spread.

>>21789084
>poor people are different from middle class or rich people
That’s a question of class, not race. The only culture that Americans have is American culture.

>>21789086
Hierarchies are natural as it comes u doublenigger. No matter what system u implement ur always gonna have different classes,
>No more feudal lords
We call them party members or corporate overlords. Pathetic r*dditnigger, sort urself out.

>>21789076
Are you being obtuse on purpose?

>>21788794
Both class and race are important factors in tribalism but ultimately a man would rather be amongst his own kind and be poor than amongst foreigners and be rich. What evidence do I have for this? The fact the vast majority of Europeans don't move to India to be a land baron.

>>21789095
>Appeal to nature
Just so you know trannies are higher in the current hierarchy. Does that make them better you, bootlicker?

>>21788794
You unironically believe in voting?

>>21788915
Nazism is exclusively a German ideology. Every white supremacist and fascist you come across online is just larping as a Nazi

>>21789044
>>21789081
If you follow the rhetoric of american politics, candidates like MTG, Lauren Boebert, Gaetz, and Cruz criticize the banks, billionaire capital, and "Big Interests" like big pharma and big tech all the time. Even DeSantis uses class-language in nearly all of his speeches, and has passed legislation increasing taxes on corporate entities.

Leftist options in America are exclusively about cracking down on middle class people and proles that are "too privileged" and using empty rhetoric that it will lead to more "equity."

It was wild to see the rapid transformation of the Left-Right dynamic in America.

>>21789098
Most people don’t move, regardless of class.

>>21789106
>trannies are higher in the current hierarchy.
Good thing they arent above anyone for that long
>bootlicker?
Very ironic coming from a commie subhuman, the state could slap u in ur face and u would lick their fingers clean.

>>21789110
True. What they don’t realize is that Hitler was a German supremacist first and foremost.

>>21789116
Exactly, they prefer the environment they are comfortable with.

>>21788794
'The Social Theory of Practices. Tradition, Tacit Knowledge and Presuppositions' (1994)

"The implication of what I have argued here for such a strategy of inference is this: if the 'real causal stuff', the existence of which is inferred, includes norms, practices, tacit rules and the like, and these things are understood as hidden collective objects, the causal story breaks down over transmission. We recognize the absurdities of Durkheim's own imagery. But the same kinds of problems hold for Bourdieu's idea of 'reproduction' or Parsons' notion of the introjection of norms. They are simply hidden under more contemporary metaphors. So these models, which seem to hold out such promise, are inherently flawed, at least if they are understood, as they are understood by those that have advanced them, as first approximations to more precise and determinate theoretical knowledge."

"In each of these cases the project of inference starts well, with some new manifestation explained or some problem in previous attempts at inference resolved. But in time the process runs into the sand. <...> The fatal attraction of these circular programmes of inference to an explanation derives from the fact that the programmes have 'successes'. It is possible to sustain various organic or mechanical analogies about society, and to 'make sense' of otherwise difficult-to-comprehend features of social life as 'manifestations' of inferred underlying processes. But these initial successes depend on a certain kind of inferential circularity. The explanatory facts are inferred to be so because they provide an explanation. The explanation is accepted as an explanation because it promises to be of more general bearing and significance than the thing explained, <...>. But this promise is never properly kept. Moreover, there is a promise to the effect that these 'rough' explanations will be sharpened up, the concepts made more precise, and the predictions improved. And this promise is not kept either."

"As sociologists sometimes say, they are useful as 'sensitizing concepts', and indeed they come to have a role in many contexts in which precision and the trappings of science are not important simply by virtue of their utility in helping people get around in the face of their particular problems of action and comprehension. They go wrong where they are applied in inappropriate places and ways - which is the same as saying 'applied where they don't do any explanatory work or don't hold'. When they are raised to the level of generality of a totalizing theory of society or history, they claim universal applicability. But all totalizing social theories (other than purely formalistic theoretical constructions) so far have failed when they are applied outside the domain for which they were originally devised. This does not mean that there is a reason in principle why they had to fail. But the pattern gives rise to a very compelling induction."

>>21789098
>The fact the vast majority of Europeans don't move to India to be a land baron.
You have never done business in India lad.

>>21789119
>if you detest degeneracy, you are a commie
Interesting commentary you got there.

>>21789125
>As sociologists sometimes say
Stopped reading right there, already outted urself as a pseud.
>>21789129
When did i ever say that i support rights for fags?

>>21789127
Shut up currycel. White men literally come to your country and breed your women in sex parties because they want white children.

>>21789120
Very true. But that doesn't mean fascist movements and racial supremacist movements don't take inspiration from Nazism. The problem is these people need to realise they are inspired by said movement and not Nazis themselves.

>>21789121
I’m saying people don’t move. This isn’t evidence of anything.

>>21789149
People don't like to move and when they do they move to areas with people like them. Do the math centrist moron.

>>21789157
I’m simply saying your example is retarded. I don’t disagree with the premise for the most part.
>The fact that you don’t live in India right not proves what I’m saying!
Seriously?

>>21789182
If you cared about wealth and high living more than the people and culture around you. You would move to some third world shithole right now and live like a king. Please explain why you wouldn't other than social reasons. If you can't I accept your concession.

>>21789147
I think it’s possible to create in any country a nationalist, pro-indigenous movement that is not exactly like Nazism. At its very core, Nazism is nationalism with heavy emphasis on the native population. But these people are not as smart as they think they are which is why they resort to a system that already serves as an imperfect blueprint. They fall in all the clichés, even when it doesn’t even apply. They cannot create, they can only imitate.

> Monsieur de Marvejols would think of himself, and of all members of the nobility, as of a race apart, of a superior essence, and he believed it criminal to sully this by mixture with plebeian blood.

>>21789200
Fascism must be organic to some extent otherwise it has subverted it's very purpose. These larpers see cool aesthetics and hijack it instead of using it for inspiration for a genuine movement.

>>21789194
Living like a king sounds like a nice plan. Unfortunately I’m poor, don’t speak the language, don’t have job opportunities or even housing in any other country. But I would definitely move if I could, if that’s what you’re asking.

>>21789092
Stupid and wrong. Poor white people still have a very different culture compared to black people. Less violent, less criminal, different traditions, etc.

>>21788901
Maybe not, but it is much easier to organize around a race rather than class due to the shared history and culture. Multinationals recognize this which is why Amazon uses AI technology to divide its employees to ensure little ethnic homogeneity at a location when possible - too many similar people together makes creating a labor union much more likely.

>>21788794
race matters more than class
source: America

>>21788904
Based. Marx and especially Engels thought the same.

>>21789341
It's why marxtards playing ball with capitalists and trying to increase diversity is retarded. The proles would be more united without this completely retarded and useless diversity.

>>21789242
Lies. Such sweet lies.

>>21788976
So both?

>>21789063
>play with the definition of culture
>get called out
>do it again
>get called out
>do it again..
Sophists.

>>21789370
>if you so don’t live in another situation that means the current situation is your ideal situation

>>21789383
>play with the definition of culture
Culture is not limited by race.

>>21789044
Right wingers in the US are poorfags working at McDonald's and Walmart. They hate the rich more than liberals. Drive through a rich neighborhood you'll see IN THIS HOUSE WE BELIEVE IN SCIENCE AND SUPPORT LGBTQ and Biden. The primary rallying points raised by them are material analyses suited to material conditions. That's why theyre plastering I did this stickers to the gas pumps everywhere. Like it or not, they're the proletariat of the United States meaning if class divisions worsen it will be these people ushering in socialism.

>>21789072
Marz WAS one

>>21789389
Move to India right now mother fucker

>>21789526
See: >>21789242

>>21789063
Bro overdosed on southerner propaganda

>>21789397
Unless a culture includes race.

>>21788794
Marxists are retarded on race.

Btw they supported black panthers and hate white people.

scumbags

>>21789542
If you’re not from the south don’t even say southerner or talk about the south or talk at all you fucking yank

>>21789546
Which the American culture doesn’t.

>>21788970
most of the poor in the west are still working class whites, the right still hates them.

>>21789567
Who wants to preserve a capitalist product like american "culture"?

>>21788865
>le women raped children killed speech
Seriously, create something new ffs. This speech is as old as time

>>21789569
The right is the working class whites.
>But... Le politicians aren't working class!!
And didn't I hear something from a certain someone about using capitalist momentum to accelerate the revolution? Something about the capitalist class making concessions and by supporting these billionaire plants the proletariat drives the movement out of their control? Or does it only work for bourgeois leftists?

>>21789577
Because it's true in every instance.
>le 1+1 =2 speech
Seriously, create something new ffs. This speech is as old as time

>>21788968
What? Marxists do care. We dont care about winning elections, but a center left socdem is definetly better for the working class than a fascist or liberal

>>21789078
>rothbard

KYS. anarchists are not welcome at all

>>21789555
COPE. Hamiltonian Federalist Lincoln and the union did nothing wrong at all.

>>21789081
Hahahahahahaha because banks and ceos are the problem right? Trumpists and right wingers can yell against the rich all they want but real change without a vanguard party organizing it

The amount of people here pretending like they know anything about Hitler, likely from reading his Wikipedia article and watching Downfall, MAYBE while also reading Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, is astounding; so many laughable assertions made with the utmost confidence.
As a STEM pure math-type person, I already knew that /lit/ people aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, but jfc I had higher expectations.

I vote nationalist and socialist every other election since they don't come as a package deal anymore.

The American working class needs a party with the social conservatism of the Republicans and the economic socialism of the Democrats. They’re getting doubly fucked on every election because their interests are split between two parties.

>>21789608
The vanguard party consists of middle class whites being plundered by capitalists under the pretence of enforcing "equality" and working class whites dissatisfied with corporate cabals exploiting them, plundering their nation, exterminating their culture to make way for a consumerist mass, and pushing cultural marxism on them.
They quite literally stormed the capitol as a vanguard. Once they have a figure that isn't a rusty pseudopopulist freak like Trump, their will be rivers of rich blood in the street. White men ARE the vanguard, the rest of the diverse ilk are there to form a capitalist defense against revolution by dividing them.

>>21789630
there*

>>21789587
Lol if brows and other non whites ask for a little bit of rights its the same as white genocide. Your "problems" only exist because of your unconditional support of neoliberal capitalism, because it gives you a false sense of superiority. Atomization, crime, poverty, decline of birth rates and other things are all related to it but whites CANNOT lose some privileges, so they still shill for it. Its funny because when capital contracts more and only a few european countries still be rich retards like you will talk about the "true white race" that was always there or something. Your little gay speech of muh women and kids will only end with the annihilation of humanity

>>21788865
race is a distraction
i am, you are, we are international proletariat

>>21789646
Race is not a distraction if you're white and both capitalists and communists shriek that you're privileged and deny you access to things. The material conditions of whites will be improved by neither option. We are not one. The line YOU chose has divided whites from "the minorities."

>>21789646
No, thanks. My family and genotype is not a distraction. I can also in addition hate capitalism and "democracy".

>>21789646
It's a very real destruction if you see your working class neighbourhood goes to shit by immigration though. Rape and violence are very tangible.

>>21789644
Really poor rhetoric.

>>21789654
It’s a distraction to divide.

>>21789670
Whites don't give a shit because they have two choices:
>1. Support marxist garbage, let muslims from third world rape and kill, lose their privilege (if they have any) and accept lower material conditions, all so that LE ONE RACE LE HUMAN RACE gets to have a "higher average of material conditions"
or
>2. Play the race game and preserve their family, keep themselcs safe from ethnic violence, and possibly improve their material conditions if they win

Jews had to play the race game in Nazi Germany, did they not? Imagine telling a Jew that race is just a method of division and it shouldn't matter if they lose their material conditions, because they are part of ONE RACE LE HUMAN RACE and material conditions in Germany are improving on average.

>>21789670
Blacks shouldn't care about racial equality laws. Race is just a distraction, man. They're dividing us, black man. What we need is unity. Stop thinking about colonization, that's dividing us.

Hypocrites.

>>21789695
>>21789706
The point is that the elite use identity labels like race to divide the plebs so they can never focus on the corrupt at the top.

>>21789630
Schizophrenic rambling that doesnt mean nothing

>>21789651
you're comparing the people who control all the worlds resources to retard losers on twitter

>>21789654
and yet you've accomplished exactly nothing

>>21789714
Then the losers are those that choose not to play. Minorities have already fully bought into the race games. Whites will not gain ANYTHING on the individual or collective level by "sacrificing themselves" for unity. If they refuse to play, they will simply be destroyed and capitalists will pit hispanics and blacks or some other groups against each other. The best option, at any level, is to play, hope they win, and fucking kill the rich for doing it.

>>21789714
You are absolutely right. Just see cuba, its a multiethnic society with low crime and drug use where everyone has the same rights. Browns and whites dont need to be enemies but everytime they unite against the bourg. whites get coopted for privileges so they keep it down. What was europe after 1945 if not it? And the bourg. dont give a fuck about killing whites for money because they already discarted race for class ages ago. In a sense the bourg. is much more marxist today than the whites

>>21789737
"Minorities" are not a titan of agreement, nor are whites or jews or any race. Whites will not unite against anything because most of them dont have anything in common. Its useless to "race fight" because the bourg. will win in the and bring the status quo all over again

>>21788794
I would argue race over class because class is a lot more fluid and dynamic. For example, a poor man may eventually become a rich man and vice versa. This is compared to race, which is unchanging and unalterable when comparing one race to other peoples. For example, a White man can not become a Black man, nor can an Asian suddenly become European.

>>21789714
the internationalists want a global niggerfied dysgenic vermin cattle slave class that will never be able to fight back
both marxists and capitalists are in favour of this
what is your reaction?

>>21788794
any political theory that ignores genetic determinism is a retarded fairytale for bluepilled masses to jerk off to

>>21789793
Oh and race is not fluid and dynamic? Americans used to not consider italians and the irish white, now theres even debate if mexican americans are white, oe if semites are white, or georgians, or iranians, or armenians...

>>21789803
Are you fighting or whining to prevent this? I keep seeing /pol/tards whining about muh race yet I see little action, little unity, little intelligence.

>>21789817
>Americans used to not consider italians and the irish white
Jewish fabrication, opinion discarded.

>>21789825
Damn you are edgy, can i walk with you?

>>21789817
Yes, that is true. But they do often have similar features and characteristics. A White man in an African tribe would stick out like a sore sunburned thumb.

>>21789803
There is not a thing as internationalists, only the bourg. and its colaborators

>>21789832
? being antisemitic isn't even edgy anymore go off tho shabbos

>>21789832
The fact Italians and Irish were given citizenship, in a time this was only applicable to "free white men of good character" or something is proof enough against your lies. Were there distinctions noted between the Germanic Northern Europeans and Italians? Sure. But those are intraracial differences that are entirely trivial compared to the differences between Italians/Germans, and Pygmies/Indians/etc..

>>21789529
Stop coping mother fucker you wouldn't leave the safe abode of your home even if you had a chance to lose your virginity.

>>21789867
Yeah dude, double down on your ignorance masked as arrogance. You cant refute nor understand what i said so thats whats left for you

>>21789825
Some people really did only consider English and like maybe the Dutch to be fully white. But there was also a common understanding of what the "white races" were, and it extended to Russia, Hungary, Greece, Italy, and Ireland.

>>21789880
I’m sorry your retarded example proves nothing, Anon. Stop seething.

>>21789870
I will not even bother becsuse your autist brain must take everything literally. Most people cant even differentiate lebanese with italians and historically it changed between times, but show a rich guy and poor guys assets without telling them who is who and i guarantee you everyone will know who is the rich guy in any year. This mith of a self made rich guy is another lie but i dont have the time to write more

>>21789895
Tell that to Ben Franklin.

>>21788794
>CLASS VS RACE
What about language and culture instead? I can connect with a black guy if he speaks the same language as me compared to someone who does not. I can also connect with a black Christian as a white Christian myself compared to a Hindu or Buddhist.
>Culture>Race>Class.

>>21789987
Culture is downstream from race i.e. demographics i.e. underlying genetics.

>>21788901
>he thought there was winning here

>>21790010
Is Christianity a downstream of race, though? Jesus wasn’t even European after all. Millions of Catholics around the world, regardless of race, support the Vatican and the Pope.

>>21790010
> Culture is downstream from race
was*

>>21790019
Downstream doesn't mean entirely causal. e.g. see best and worst Korea
Genetics creates certain propensities. Whether Protestant or Catholic, all things considered, the Germans and Southern Germans ("Austrians") are pretty much identical.

>>21789882
Several of the signers of the declaration were irish and thus white. You are refuted. Crawl back to your hugbox now.

>>21790998
Which ones? Anglo-Irish don't count btw.

>>21791007

>>21788961
This is true, specifically for America. The academically fascist 'palingenetic ultranationalism' is what America, the people, not the continent or government, need. More palingenetic than ultranationalist.
>>21789714
And then they embrace labels like class to distract from a cultural unity that transcends material status. The communist utopia is simply an equally efficient capitalism; it aimed to change none of the industrialism, materialism, or profit-seeking of the capitalist system.

>>21789906
>irish and italians used to not be white
>(get called out on this being bullshit)
>w-well you can't tell the difference between teal and turquoise so colors don't exist. You can tell the difference between a rich and poor guy btw.
Are you really telling me that if you got a rich and a poor guy, just by the face, you could tell them apart? Because if you're talking about cleanliness/clothing, that's not true at all. Do you really think that Zucc looks notably richer with his shitty haircut and washed out t-shirts? Clothing style is very literally a social construct, after all. You can't tell an italian and a lebanese guy apart by face, sure, but if I put one in a silk suit and a coppola, and the other in a sherwal and a fez, you absolutely could. So what the fuck are you trying to say.
Not even that anon btw, I'm just astounded by your utter retardation.

>>21791011
I looked up three at random and they were all Scots- or Ango-Irish.

protip: there is a reason no government in the west has any representation that combines both

OP don't decide your politics starting from such a close-ended choice. I would observe what matters to you on a day to day basis, which of these are the largest problems/which of these do you care about the most and then go from there. THEN maybe read something which deals in these concerns.

>>21791082
thanks for the cope

>>21788944
>implying I’m either of those, but a secret third thing

This is what voting based on class gets you

>>21788794
>voting behaviour
…
There might be a "lose" button in the start menu but you didn't have to press it.

Race is just another spook like nationality. even old timey chuds like schopenhaur recognized that.

>>21788794
Anon, you don't choose your ideology. Your ideology chooses you.

>>21788944
>the right hates the poor
Some cuckservatives may hate the poor, but even then, right wingers donate more money on average than leftists. That being said, the real right doesn't hate the poor. Helping the poor was something that fascist leaders like Hitler or Mosley talked about constantly in their speeches. And Hitler actually helped them when he got in power. Mosley also has this wonderful speech against colonialism and exploiting the poor on the first and the third world. A must listen:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/edQgzan0Qngy/

>>21789593
And ur delusional to think that communist were ever welcome? U do realize nobody actually takes u idiots seriously on this site because its not one of ur echochambers.

>>21791353
They’re more third positionists than right though.

>>21791066
You guys cant really understand a simply text eh? I said you can tell the difference between two people by looking at their material power all times vs race that is not an exact thing. Like: this guy have ten properties, 20% of coca cola in stocks, virtually doesnt work and this guy has a car, who is the bourg. guy? Everyone will know exactly who is the bourg. guy. Now put an italian and a lebanese (or a jew if you like), who is white? If you put the two in western clothes it gets hard, more people saying both are white. Now put the lebanese guy with a full beard, no mustache, arab clothes and hat, who is white? If i can change results because of a fucking hat race is not a trustworthy method to differentiate people. Meanwhile class can be differentiate easily with a simple question of three words: who were work?

>>21791515
It's the opposite you dense fuck. G*d I hope you are shitposting. It's immediately apparent what race someone is. Rich boomers are walking around in t shirts and ripped jeans driving a clapped out 04 330i. You're a dumb gorilla nigger.

>>21791519
Read again kid. And race was never about appearence, not in america anyway

>>21791515
>Italians and Lebanese could trade clothes
>rich and poor people couldn't POSSIBLY trade cars
what the actual fuck are you on about lmfao

>>21791353
>https://www.bitchute.com/video/edQgzan0Qngy/
kino

>>21788794
class
the power elite want to distract you from your class interests by making you angry at other races and fighting them for scraps from the masters table
read Chomsky to get started

>>21789024
>Have you seen how viciously hateful the right is of billionaires, big corporations, and bankers?
And those right wingers are fucking stupid. Billionaires, big corporations and bankers are all right wingers. Now that SVB apparently lost a lot of money, I've seen a lot of right wingers like Tim Pool blaming wokeness, but banks by definition are not woke. They don't give a fuck about your identity. They only care about money. In this thread we made a pretty good job setting things straight if anyone is curious. You won't find any useful answer to what's going on with the economy on 4chan.
https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/11ryymi/woke_banks/

>>21788794
>>21791876
>the power elite want to distract you from your class interests
Any in-group criterion (class, race, etc.) is as much a tangible thing, as a mirage in a desert is. "Class interest" is but a hallucination, born out of not seeing any alternatives.

Because a long time ago, in a savanna far-far away, the first apes were really shit at communication, unsocial loners like orangutans. They had previously lost the monkey-troop groupishness, and had to re-invent it via totem identification (That's why you are prone to a rubber hand illusion, for example).

>>21791876
So you agree we shouldn't be importing third worlders then? That way we can stop infighting and we can focus on persecuting the jews.

>>21791890
Wow, it's crazy how badly you need to touch grass. You are retarded.

>>21791890
>They don't give a fuck about your identity. They only care about money.
Money is quantified power, and power is ideological, no?

>>21791906
>So you agree we shouldn't be importing third worlders then?
I never said that. A global society is a necessity for socialism.
>That way we can stop infighting and we can focus on persecuting the jews
You're falling into identity politics again. Jewish people have nothing to do with anything as a collective. There are jewish people involved on every movement, from the right to the left wing. Some of them are part of the capitalist elite and they are a problem, but don't single them out, and don't dismiss how important jewish thinkers have been in articulating an anti capitalist thought.

>>21791890
>reddit
Go the fuck back

>>21791876
>anarkiddie
just no

>>21791890

>>21789646
Only white people think like this. No person of color will ever find solidarity with you, they will always put their own people first.

>>21788794
National Socialism already dealth with class as well. Though you'd need to read a whole bunch of books to get a good overview of the actual views on race and economics.

>>21789843
this is a lie
i don't understand why commies only see history with their stupid class analysis, and don't see the elephan in the room, whic is powerful individuals and families conspiring against whole continents of people

marxists are either stupid or in bad faith,there is no third option

>>21788968
You don't care because you're a leftcom. Nothing wrong with it cause I hate parliamentary socialism as well.

>>21789008
those bourgeoise thinkers are marxits, anon

I wanna see marxists rebuttal to this video.
Watch it all, and refute this guy arguments if you can.

>>21792976
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxiRKPrOpo

>>21788944
Stop being a directionbrain.

>>21792239
shhh don't tell em!!that will shatter their kumbaya dreams!!
this is what most africans think btw

These thinly-veiled bait threads always have some of the lowest form of communication I've seen on this godforsaken board.

>>21792976
>>21792981
>youtube video
>rebut!!! debunk!!! btfo!!!
consider kys

>>21793019
so, you concede?

>>21793038
>argue with me!!
not even a leftie, I'm just sick of your type—terminally online argument masturbators I call them

>>21793042
i argue in real life too can you say the same?

>>21793038
do you concede that you should start looking for a job

>>21793140
i'm working 45 hours a week friend, what do you do?

>>21793140
>job
Doreen, please...

Who cares, which ever side starts to actually gets the sparks flying then I'll care

>>21791676
Where were you alphabetized? I think you can to sue the place
>>21792895
Because this families are all dispossessed and poor right? In a communist revolution people like george soros or the rothschilds would be shot on sight and possibly made an example of.

>>21792981
>but what about the hidden jews tho?
You people are pretty tiring

>>21793288
>would
Lmao

>>21793301
talking with you people is tiresome as well.

you just refuse to see evidence, also you are pathological LIARS who intentionally obfuscate all dialogue with your retarded jargon

Why do you refuse to see the influence that powerful families and ethnic group had over history eh?

>>21793301
btw from your response i can see that you didn't watch the video

>>21793288
ESL

Multinationals and governments have done everything they can to break up any kind of racial block. I'll take their judgement on it.

>>21788865
I wonder what class destroys wages and dictates immigration policy to import cheap labor