/lit/ - Literature

i love pet builds in arpgs like grim dawn. make it as a pet for the player and have rpg elements where you upgrade it with new materials and powers and shit. sounds rad, but i'd like it better in the ancient world where eventually you have a showdown with some mythological shiz like leviathan or sth.

>>21740138
Why was this post deleted? Whatever, I'm responding to it.
Nah, the player is actually gonna play AS the Golem.
It's actually frankly bizarre that no one has done a game about this before. Golems are these monsterous creatures created by Rabbis with Jewish magic, and they use excessive violence to protect Jews against antisemetic forces. And yet for some fucking reason, NO ONE has thought to do a story about one of these things murdering Nazis.
I mean... it just strikes me as SO OBVIOUS. It was actually the first video game idea I ever came up with as a child: I was like in sixth grade when I first started drawing pictures of it. Even made a shitty little version in Stagecast (which was basically unplayable, obviously). And I'd like to see if I could expand it further.
There are plenty of other reasons I want to do this game (aside from specific gameplay ideas, which I don't want to bore you guys too much with), but the other story-thing worth mentioning here is that Golems perfectly exemplify the "silent video game protagonist" archetype. They’re mute engines of righteous violence that are powered by intelligences not of the worlds they inhabit. They're kind of mindless and just follow directions, so aren't so much "good" as much as they're simply aligned with the right side of things. In a sense, most video game silent protagonists effectively already ARE Golems.
So aside from doing a fun game about killing Nazis, I also want to explore the "silent protagonist" archetype, and have the NPCs react to it the way I think most people actually WOULD react to a mute killing machine that was apparently on their side. The Jews you'd save would be grateful, but also kind of unnerved. I have a few scenes in mind for this, but I don't want to ramble on too long.

>>21740130
>>21740169
Thanks i'm stoling your idea

>>21740186
Stealing**
Goddamit i'm fucking drunk as hell

>>21740188
>>21740188
Lol fair enough. I guess that means my idea is good, then.
Glad you liked it. I've got a ton more I can do instead, should you actually wind up beating me to it.
Out of curiosity, though, what do you YOU'LL make your thing about? Will it be a game as well? Or is it just gonna be a short story or something, since this is /lit/?
We could also collab, if you want. I've got plenty of other ideas and approaches you might be able to use in your own thing.

>>21740188

>those dubs

>>21740207
Holy shit I didn't notice kek.
Guess anon is gonna turn my idea into something pro-Nazi then lol

>>21740130
funny, despite having deep-dived into jewish folklore just a few years ago I'm actually surprised by how little I knew about the Golem of Prague before you prompted me to look it up the alternate versions on wikipedia, so thank you for that

What I'm seeing is that the alternate versions all seem to revolve around what provoked the golem to go berserk, which consequently changes the moral of the story

>disrespect for the sabbath causes the golem to act without rabbi loew reining it in, causing it to attack where it should turn the other cheek and kill where it should spare, a clear warning about playing god and disrespecting the rules he put in place
>either attacked out of superstitious fear by the people it was created to protect or forced to intervene in an altercation betweeen two of its charges, the golem turns on the jewish population, becoming a lesson against infighting when more serious threats threaten your wellbeing
>the golem falls in love with a woman and goes berserk when she rejects it. In this case the warning is more open to interpretation

Additionally, it seems there are jewish variants of pinocchio and the gingerbread man that likewise deal with golems, not to mention the various comperable stories dealing with robots, ai or frankenstein

I can't tell you what to create, but since your intentions seem good I'd advise you to think carefully about what message you intend to send and why. Me personally, I'd want some mechanic where the orders you give to your golems are pre-formatted and need to be read carefully because some were tampered with by the enemy to make your golems go berserk

>>21740130
I remember (and this was maybe two decades ago) reading a Scooby-Doo comic where a Jewish man sets a robotic golem at his daughter's wedding. That of course isn't known at the beginning, and I've only now realized that it sort of plays into the stereotype of Jewish people false-flagging.

>>21740210

The player being continuously chased by a Golem through a progressively more degenerate architectural and dystopian landscape Crash Bandicoot/Indiana Jones rock scene-style while jumping over platters of goyslop, dodging spiritual subversion attacks and grabbing musical notes that make the atonal soundtrack momentarily consonant and harmonious.

10/10 would play

>>21740220
to be fair, considering how old the franchise is and how many scooby doo plots revolve around real estate scams I'd be surprised if there weren't antisemetic scooby doo comics. That's actually way more tame than most examples

>>21740169
that's a pretty cool idea. i don't know how i'd react to witnessing an assailant get brutally killed by a silent, seemingly divine automaton. would be interesting to explore, psychologically speaking.
i don't have any books to recommend, though.

>>21740212
Glad I prompted your deep-dive, anon. They're fascinating creatures, aren't they? Pretty much the only piece of notable Jewish folklore that isn't from the Bible.
Interestingly enough, I looked up the origins of the Golem legend, and it turns out that Jewish German writers invented it as kind of a response to the German folklore movement, spearheaded by folks like the Brothers Grimm etc.
This is EXTREMELY fascinating to me, since one of the big themes I'm exploring in this thing is basically just "Jewish magic vs. Nazi magic." I want to have evil Nazi wizards as enemies, since Nazi fascination with the occult was a thing, but I also want my Nazi occultists to be as historically accurate as possible, and am actually doing a deep-dive into "Ariosophy," which is what the main form of Nazi Occultism was called.

But yeah. The moral of Golem stories is usually "don't play God," creating life leads to disastrous consequences if you're not careful. But what I want to do is something slightly different than the usual moral. I kind of want to explore the whole "silent protagonist" thing, because as I said to the other anon, Golems basically already ARE silent video game protagonists. I also want there to be a theme where the primordial "might makes right" forces that were banished by the Abrahamic religions are coming back to take revenge on the Abrahamic faiths, (since one of the big reasons Nazis hated Jews so much is that they believed -- correctly -- that abrahamic religions usurped "master morality" and replaced it with what they viewed as "slave morality." Granted, I think "master morality" is kind of monsterous, but these are Nazis we're talking about).

Also keep in mind that you're actually playing AS the Golem here. My story is that the Rabbi who creates you gets shot in the head by a Nazi before he can really explain to you much beyond "protect my people" etc. And then after you save the Ghetto you're in from being liquidated, and the surviving Jews throw a party to celebrate your victory, they suddenly realize with horror that the Rabbi who made you isn't around to deactivate you anymore. And none of them actually know how to turn you off when your job is done, and they're painfully aware of how pretty much every Golem story ends with the thing going berserk and needing to be destroyed. So they kind of just nervously assist you on your quest to liberate all the Nazi death camps and kill Hitler, and decide to play it by ear from there. The player then gains more and more free will as the game goes on, and what they decide to become is ultimately up to them.

>>21740130
>>21740169
This is brilliant OP, I really hope you do this

>>21740244
Glad you like it, anon. I have this idea of the Jews in the first city you liberate throwing a party to celebrate their freedom. But then over some spirited conversation, the party suddenly grinds to a halt as they realize: "Wait, you're saying that thing actually CAN understand us?"

Everyone turns and stares at you, and the cheerful Klezmer music comes to a screeching halt. Mothers will then try to steer their curious children away from you in that ballroom, should they approach you or you approach them. And the bolder young Jewish men there will nervously approach you, and try to experimentally assuage how sentient you really are.
> "Can you understand us? Can you understand what I'm saying?"
> [from the back] "It can't talk, you moron! It won't answer you; it has no mouth!"
> "Ok, ok, you're right. Uh... what CAN it do?"
> [also from the back] "I saw it crouch behind cover when it was fighting the Nazis back there!"
> "Ok, good idea. Ok, Golem! Crouch if you can understand me!"

The player will have full control over their player character during this scene, of course, and can choose to respond or ignore their stimuli. If the player doesn't hit the "crouch" key, the people will breathe a sigh of relief and the party will continue, albeit at a slightly less energetic rate. If you do crouch, the Jews will freak out, but then also get extremely curious and try to extract more information from you. At this point, the elders will probably intervene and protest that "this isn't what the Golem is for," then try to escort you towards your next mission. Again, you will have the choice to ignore this prompt and continue to satisfy the curiosities of the young Jewish men, or simply go off to liberate Birkenau.

That's the basic idea. There are a few other scenes like that. Obviously, the dialogue above isn't really final (for example, there must be a more colorful Yiddish insult than "moron" I can use), but that's the gist of it.

Also, I realize that the whole "playable cutscene" thing isn't always popular these days (for valid reasons), so players will never be locked in a room with one. Everything the player does will be justified by the Golem's canon, so if they're bored they can just leave a room while the characters are talking and just find more Nazis to kill.

>>21740265
Scooby-doo fellow here, want to note that you might enjoy some of the legends of the older rabbis, like rabbi Akiva. The midrash on the song of songs of solomon is quite fun as well.

Well, start by researching the US. The modern day Jewish Golem, made and kept to serve Israel and jews, killing jewish enemies for free and worshipping Israel.

>>21740265
>The player then gains more and more free will as the game goes on, and what they decide to become is ultimately up to them.
I don't know how a Nazi Gollum arch would play out, but it would be funny to see Hannah Arendt's The Banality of Evil being written about a literal automaton

>>21740326
i'd read a novel if this were its premise. sounds like a lot of fun, just fucking with people as a golem. they have no way to know your intentions, which could lead to many hilarious gameplay opportunities, provided you lean into them with the writing; perhaps you're going for a more serious approach, though. either way i'd play it

>>21740326
Sounds brilliant. As a fellow Jew myself I hope you get this off the ground. The world could use more Golem stories.

>>21740290
I am very encouraged by the positive responses in this thread. I frankly assumed I'd be inundated with antisemetic remarks. Which wouldn't be TOO bad mind you, since one expects that on 4chan (and I'm not even Jewish). But still, never expected /lit/ to love a game pitch so much.

In case any of you are interested in what the gameplay would be, I'm thinking of a Batman-styled "predator stealth" game with combat based off the older God of War titles. The reason for this is that while I think the "Batman: Arkham" series is fantastic, I think that it was slightly limited by the mission of "making you feel like Batman." They accomplished the "feel like Batman" thing perfectly, mind you, but it prevented them from doing things that would’ve improved their games while making you feel less like Batman.

The most glaring example of this was the combat. The "predator" stealth in the Batman Arkham series is some of the best ever made: so good that it basically constitutes its own genre. The combat, however, is designed to make you "feel like Batman" (like everything else in those titles), and that means it’s really easy and kind of braindead.

The second, less obvious issue was with the boss fights. Batman’s villains are usually schemers, not fighters. They’re usually able to defend themselves, sure, but they don’t stand a chance in a one-on-one fistfight against the caped crusader. So as a result, the boss fights for these characters weren’t really "boss fights" but segments where they called upon their goons to fight you in a pit as they jeered on the sidelines from the safety of some elevated platform.

So I want to make a game where you have more God of War -esque combat (pretty easy to imagine, with the Golem's clay arms stretching out to turn into blades and hammers and stuff), while keeping the whole "Batman stealth" thing of psychologically torturing your enemies as you lurk in the shadows. Also, as I researched Golems for this project, I learned that Golems have actually had a lot of interesting powers that'd lend themselves to predator-stealth gameplay, like turning invisible and stuff. So that's neat.

>>21740341
Fucking lol.
I don't think the player will be able to go THAT far. They won't be able to kill Jews I don't want anything in this game that actual Nazis could enjoy. But literally anything else would become fair game after a certain point: there'd be no "Jewish magic" to prevent you from killing friendly gentiles, for example. There'd probably be points where it'd be temptingly expedient to just muder a guy who'd been hiding Jews in his attic or something, which would obviously horrify any Jews who were around to witness it, but would also make your mission easier somehow.

>>21740265
>Pretty much the only piece of notable Jewish folklore that isn't from the Bible.

that's where you're wrong buck-o. I did some heavy digging on this. There's actually some good shit out there

>Shedim: In the bible but very notable. Translated as "demons" in the christian bible and "jinn" in the quaran, shedim are closer to the latter being earthly spirits who were an unfinished prototype of humanity that was abandoned by god and had the capacity for both good and evil. described as having wings and chicken feet and the ability to turn invisible, see the future and change their shape (but not their feet), the most notable shedim in the jewish bible is Aeshma (Asmodeus to christians), the prince of jinn who features prominently in the book of tobit along with almost every story related to Solomon. Different books actually vary discussing him with many of them making him rather noble by biblical standards (i.e. he helps an old woman across the street though he still ultimately fucks Solomon's mom and all his wives under false pretenses and wears shoes in bed). According to the Zofar he was also Solomon's half-brother, which makes their drama a lot more interesting considering Solomon was actually the agressor in their myths
>Allukkah/Bouda: werehyenas whose human forms are blacksmithing witches who wield the evil eye and can fly by flapping their long hair. The Baal Shem Tov – the founder of hassidism – was reputed to have killed one as one of his miracles
>Tzephardea: One of two jewish mythical creatures that resulted from really stupid rabbincal arguments, the tzephardea, also called the Plague of Frog is a frog kaiju who bleeds smaller frogs when injured. He's the result of a rabbi famously refusing to acknowledge a typo in the book of exodus where a description of moses's second plague read "and the frog blanketed the land of egypt, deafening the egyptians with their croaks"
>Shamir: The other example of shitty rabbi interpretations and honestly even weirder because of how "ancient aliens" the actual text sounds. the shamir was some kind of tiny green crystal the size of a mustard seed that was used to cut the stones of the first temple. it needed to be kept in a lead box at all times because its "gaze" could cause rock to decompose, and it decayed over several decades. The scholar who made it a mythical creature argued it had to be a worm of some kind since a rock can't gaze, but modern scholars are baffled by how much it sounds like radioactive material
>Kheresh: a titanic elk with multicolored skin and one giant antler

Also, while goblins, liches and reptillians aren't tied to any specific world mythology, discussions of their antisemitic nature has sort of made them jewish by default

>>21740351
I'm actually not totally sure HOW serious I want to be. I think certain bits of Nazi-killing media are kind of messed up: and reveal our culture's enduring fascination with Nazi stories doesn't come from any real hatred or even understanding of Fascism. Seems like most people just want to be Nazis TO Nazis. They just want a justifiable target.

So I might want it to be a LITTLE silly (with the evil Nazi wizards and whatnot), but I'm still not sure about the exact tone. I think that Hitler should obviously be the final boss, but I'd also like to have other real-life Nazis as the bosses leading up to him. Himmler, Mengele, Gobbels... maybe we could even include some of the guys who escaped to Argentina.

I'm also a little worried that the "predator stealth" thing I alluded to earlier won't be as fun if you're actually killing your targets. The nice thing about the Batman games is that Batman doesn't kill, so you feel allowed to indulge in a greater degree of sadism. It might feel a little weird if you're straight-up killing the guys as you psychologically torture them. But then again, these ARE Nazis, so maybe it won't matter.

And there are certainly extra options for sadism here. Reading more about Golems on Wikipedia, I learned that the famous Prauge Golem apparently possessed the ability to "summon spirits from the dead." I have NO idea how that makes any sense, or why that Golem could also apparently become invisible, but just THINK about the gameplay options that opens up.

>>21740382
I'm not actually Jewish. I just read about Golems as a kid and thought they were cool.

>/lit/ - Golems and Video Game Design

>>21740450
Depending on how occultish you want to go, there is lots of material on the Nazi side of things. Im pretty sure the SS even funded a literal search for the Holy grail. Honestly you could take any Joseph P. Farrell book and flesh it out into a quirky/weird full length storyline fairly easily.

Wewelsburg castle would also be a great location for a boss fight desu.

>>21740460
Reich of the Black Sun, for example, is an alternative history about how the Nazis were really the ones who invented the atom bomb, based on their creepy occult wizard research. Then there's the fact that the Nazi party was, at it's core, built around a Luciferian secret society. Idk how goofy you want to get, but a Golem fighting against Satanist Neopagan Nazi Vampires could be completely contingent with historical evidence and events.

>>21740450
In terms of what I'm thinking a Golem stealth section would actually BE like assuming you actually have all the aformentioned clay-monster powers: (transformation, invisbility, summoning ghosts etc.):
> Enter stealth section
> Nazis patroling area full of Jews they just murdered.
> Mission start
> Silently smother first guard by shoving your clay down his airway passages
> Steal his clothes
> Mold your clay face into that of a different guard who's still alive and patroling the area
> Walk around like nothing happened. Sieg Heil a few times to blend in
> Wait for a second guard to wander away from the rest, then kill him in a particularly brutal and horrifying manner
> Other guards hear his dying screams of terror, and rush over to see what's wrong
> Turn invisible or disguise yourself as a piece of pottery
> [Press X to raise the dead]
> Ghost of guard you just killed rises up and scares the crap out of his comrades. Speaks of a cold dark place; he knows not where he is.
> Other guards are visibly shaken, but sensible enough to demand to know what happened.
> He tells them the Golem is disguised as Rolf before fading away ("So cold..." etc.)
> Rolf is at the opposite end of the room and suspects nothing
> Guards storm off angrily in search of Rolf, derranged looks in their eyes
> Rolf: "Oh hey guys, Heil Hitler! What's going o-" BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
> Guards repeatedly empty their machine guns into Rolf's lifeless body, pausing only to reload and continue their fire at the ground
> After emptying a wildly unnecessary number of magazines into the ground, they breathe heavily and try to compose themselves. Rolf is now a puddle of blood and teeth.
> "Do you think we got it?"
> Player mashes X to raise various other victims in the room
> Guards are suddenly faced with the screaming, wailing shades of the people they just killed
> They're all acting deliberately spooky, saying "The Golem is coming for you" etc.
> One of the ghosts turns at you to wink (they weren't like this in real life, they're obviously in on the joke).
> Nazis nevertheless totally buy it, and are obviously filled with abject terror.
> Their leader has finally had enough, and fires his pistol to gain his men's attention.
> "Enough with these verminous shades! Our will is iron, and our conscience is clear! Spread out! It couldn't have gotten far."
> "Jesus Christ, Friedrich. With all this shit, do you think maybe they ARE a chosen people?"
> The Nazi who dared to suggest such a thing is immediately shot.
> They all spread out to find you, while trying to ignore the wailing ghost children
Etc. You get the idea.

>>21740385
Based

>>21740460
>>21740474
Interesting. Thanks for the ideas.

I don't want to go TOO off the beaten path, mind you. The Golem should make a beeline from wherever he starts out to wherever Hitler is. And I also want the Golem to become huge for the final boss encounter (since Golems getting inexplicably bigger over time is a recurring theme), so that Hitler must fight you in a giant robotic jager mech in a battle that destroys most of Berlin.

I'm trying to be occult-accurate simply because I'd like to differentiate myself from the Wolfenstein series. I want my magic sci-fi Nazis to be different from THEIR magic sci-fi Nazis. I really haven't learned much about Ariosophy yet, but I'm hoping I can make my version a little more unique, and also play around with how abrahamic religions replaced the old religions and the older, more barbaric views of morality that the Nazis were trying to "go back to."

Another way I'm trying to differentiate myself from other fictional hyper-Nazis is by taking inspiration from fashion shows for the character design. See pic related: I got it from a /co/ thread back in 2017 of "Fashion Show Runway Models That Look Like Supervillains." I think using fashion shows as an inspiration for comic book / video game character design is a fantastic idea, something people should do more. And I think it's ESPECIALLY appropriate for a game about Nazis, since the fascists were into fashion so much. I haven't looked very hard yet, but I'm certain there are other bizarre fashion show outfits I can retrofit to become more Nazi-ish. And it'd be great if I could use fashions from those companies that were actually started by Nazis, as well.

>>21740504
Another design I'd like to steal. I imagine I'd give this guy elbow-length leather gloves with retractable metal claws on the fingertips, and make him a fast-moving but low-health melee enemy.
I don't have many other Nazi-ish fashion designs that I'd like to use yet (cause I haven't put much research into that part), but I'm sure it won't take much for me to find more material.

>>21740130

>>21740407
Oh really? Shoot, I hadn't heard of any of these.
I'll probably wanna research them at some point. But first, I gotta keep digging into this Golem thing.

>>21740457
Make it a banner

>>21740504
Really cant recommend Riech of the Black Sun enough. Its one of those books where it's written in a researched enough way to sound completely plausible (of course there's only like two books he quotes from, but that's not the point here), and it paints a fascinating picture of a race between the US and the Nazis to develop the atom bomb, the testing of the atom bomb on Jewish and Slavic prisoners, and even the nuking of a Russian city, before a final frantic invasion by the US to prevent a nuclear annihilation being unleashed on the world, ending in full capitulation to the new Riech.

The occult stuff is only tangential to the overall narrative, which is mostly focused on conspiracy, but it's a very aesthetically compelling metabarrative to the war. The 'nazi magic' being not so much the fireball casting variety, as their total inhumanity and vain quest for absolute power leading them to break the very fabric of reality to invent a weapon of mass destruction beyond anything the world has ever seen.

>>21740531
Don't forget the Leviathan, the Behemoth, and the Ziz, the big three monsters of the Bible. Magical artifacts like the Ring of Solomon and the blood sword and also the sword that can only kill demons.

Also, there's stuff like Jewish mysticism. And Adam and Eve being one person originally, Adam Kadmon.

>>21740504
JJBA's author Hirohiko Araki uses fashion as a big inspiration for his character design. It's brilliant stuff.


I actually came up with these Nazi villain OC names for a Worm fic exercise years ago, you're free to use them if you want.

Flak
Death's Head
Black Sun
Panzermensch
Crossfire/Sun Cross/Gammadion
Goshawk
Blood and Soil
Geist
Algiz
Hammer and Sword
Barbarossa
Meister

>>21740130
My favorite version of the Golem story is the one where the Jewish people use it to be their servant and God destroys it after finding the people all fat and lazy while it does it all their chores. Funny!

>>21740638
Kino

You know what's bad OP? That all golems look like walking turds, who wants to play as that.

Btw there is a board game
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/298383/golem

>>21740130
Not exactly vidya, but Pratchett had some golem stories in one of his Discworld books

>>21740130

I think Umberto Eco had some riffs on the Prague golem?

There's also a Terry Pratchett book, Feet of Clay, and a short story by Ted Chang in the same collection that includes the Arrival story.

>>21740169
The golem should have machine guns for arms, put me in the credits pls

>Even the Jew's greatest power fantasy involves getting someone else to do their dirty work
They truly are pathetically weak

>>21740265
>since one of the big reasons Nazis hated Jews so much is
You clearly know nothing about National-Socialist "antisemtisim".
It wasn't exactly about Jewish beliefs and philosophy (their hatred for Gentiles, enslavement of gentiles, subversion of gentilic cultures), it was for what they perceived (correctly) as the Jewish behavior after WW1 basically. What modern amerifats call "billionaires", the Germans called "International Capitalists/Jews", since the group that owned/owns the world's capital, are Jews, which are a people well known for their reclusiveness and anti-non jew behavior and hipocrisy (e.g jewish homophobics beliefs and practices vs their pushing of homossexual beliefs and practices in gentile countries/jewish hatred for their treatment in Nazi Germany vs. their own philosophy of being God's Chosen People (Master Race), with their own ethnotheocracy were non-jews are mistreated).

However, Nazi occultism is somtehing bizarre indeed. For example, the fact that it was an occult organization that told Hitler to use the Swastika, not because it meant "good fortune", but because they thought it was the symvol of the Aryans who conquered the nothern part of India.
Jannies will try to ban me, but What I've said pertains to the topic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaddish_(The_X-Files)

>>21741836
He did? Sweet, I love Umberto Eco. Thanks, I'm gonna go look that up.

>>21740624
I hadn't known that about Araki, though I can totally see that, looking at his character designs.
I'm not gonna make up any major Nazi villains for this thing, unfortunately. Like I said, I want all the bosses leading up to Hitler to be other actual prominent Nazis (Mengele, Himmler, Gobbels, etc.). Nevertheless, these names might be good for the different enemy types in my game, so thanks.
One challenge I'm having is figuring out what the "melee-combat Nazis" should be like. Obviously, we're gonna have regular old Nazi footsoldiers stalking around for the stealth sections, but there needs to be hand-to-hand combat Nazis for the "God of War" combat sections as well, and I'm not sure what they'd look like or what weapons they should use. However, a Hammer and Sword might be appropriate, like you said. So I might spend a little time sketching out what a "Nazi Hammer" or a "Nazi Sword" would look like.

>>21740614
> Ring of Solomon
> Blood Sword
Never heard of those. Sounds pretty interesting. Gonna have to look them up and see if they'd be useful in my game.
And while I've known about the Leviathan and Behemoth for a while now, I've never heard of this Ziz thing. Guess I'll have to look that up as well.

>>21741810
Interesting. Nothing about killing Nazis though, unfortunately. Still, it might be interesting to look at what they did. So thanks, anon.

>>21741803
The fact that Golems are a single, uniform, light color and stick out in a crowd actually makes them good vidya protagonists. Even the designs that don't wear clothes are kind of already well-designed for a third-person video game. So I think it could work.

>>21741821
How Jewish were Pratchett's golems? I'd want my Golem to be very much based on Judaism.

>>21741952
I think the Golem is just gonna be a bit like that liquid T-1000 terminator from "Terminator 2." So it can turn its limbs into hammers and spikes and stuff, or even throw bits of hardened clay from its own body, but it can't make complicated mechanism like guns or anything.
Also, too many good ranged options would make the melee combat and stealth less interesting. But still, I appreciate your input.

>>21741996
The whole Nietzschean "master/slave morality" thing, along with Nietzsche's criticism of Judaism in "Beyond Good and Evil" (along with Christianity), definitely played a role, though. I know Nietzsche was popular among National Socialists.
I'm certain that what you've said about what Nazis really believed is true. I know about the degeneracy in what became "The Brothel of The World," and how many Jews were behind it. But the "master/slave morality" thing -- and how much the Jews (really were) behind the spread of quote/unquote "slave morality" -- was definitely a factor as well. And that's what I'd like to focus on, since the whole "kindness is weakness / cruelty is strength" thing is the key part of what made fascism so evil.

>>21740223
https://youtu.be/Sn9pvwDeNzE
You’ll listen to the Schoenberg and you will like it.

>>21742030
>"slave morality"
That doesn't hold true for Jews. For Jews always accertain that they can't be truly ruled by gentiles, nor that poverty and humility is a virtue, unlike Christians.
Nietzsche was popular because of his sister, who was a National Socialist, who distorted his writings to benefit herself.
Also, you can implent Jewish mysticism characteristics like demon conjuration(as Solomon did in the Talmud), angel conjuration, blood sacrifice (dead enemies can be sacrificed for attribute points or something), etc.
However, I see you have a very limited mind, as you state that Fascism is so evil, even though the Nazis were less evil than the United States, Belgium, France, the UK, Poland and a multitude of groups.
Blacks could freely roam and enter any facility in German, as per Jesse Owens own statements, while Hitler's closest friend and Commander of over 1 million SA troops, was an known homossexual by the name of Ernst Röhm. In the US, however, only about 20 years after WW2, while homossexuals were castred by the UK well after it, and the Apartheid ended in the 90s only.
There's a reason Jews have been "persecuted" so many time during human history, don't think that is simply a coincidende.

>>21740169
>And yet for some fucking reason, NO ONE has thought to do a story about one of these things murdering Nazis.
Because the point of the story is that the golem rebels against the jews and punishes them for their hubris. If you want to be faithful to the spirit of the story, then the golem should get redpilled and join the nazis.

I don't know if you're still in this thread OP, but the game idea sounds fucking awesome and I wish you the best of luck. Developing a game can be difficult and require a lot of resources though, especially a good game, so I doubt you'll succeed but I hope that you do.

>>21740265
>but I also want my Nazi occultists to be as historically accurate as possible
ANON, DON'T DO THIS. If you open that door, you can never close it again. Once you notice, you can't go back. Don't do this to yourself.

There's a fantastic Jacob Geller video on golems, I don't know if you've watched it or how much of it's contents you already know but regardless it's a great watch as all of his videos are.
https://youtu.be/pUBVSH6hBvY

>>21740130
>I want to make a game where you play as one and kill Nazis
CoD already exists.

cool idea, anon

>>21741996
>as the Jewish behavior after WW1 basically
Yep. For obvious reasons most people don't even know that there was a civil conflict in Germany right after WWI. Nazism didn't come out of nowhere. Weimar was forced on the german people and eventually there was so much pressure in the pot that it exploded.

>>21740486
In my opinion the coolest stealth you could do with a golem would be just standing still and having no one notice you, while silently moving when they turn away (kinda like weeping angels). it'd be less "hype" then transforming into enemies like a hitman level, but that would be so fucking cool.

>>21742061

Lmao. The opening of Transfigured Night is a goated moment, no cap fr the buzz is real breh

>>21742144
nah, you could have him able to incorporate himself into walls, only exposed by the magical seal that holds him together

also, you could make the golem able to incorporate different materials for different skillsets, and even further he could use those materials around the level itself to suit his purposes, whether it to be to make himself larger or to make a weapon or to shapeshift into a wall or something.

OP, pls make a paper golem

like a lead golem type that eats bullets and only gets larger, or a paper golem with ink that can be flung to blind or pierce nazis or something like that,

Captain America is the true golem. A goy slave that fights nazis on behalf of the international Jew. Actually why stop at captain America, all of them are. OP’s idea has already been done with every marvel product.

>>21742162
imo some upgrades would be good, but I think a game like this would thrive the most if you rely on simplicity and the uniqueness of playing as a literal golem and not another rpg character with skills upgrades etc.

>>21742173
oh i don't know, one of the compelling aspects of a golem is that it is mutable. it is ultimately the materials it is composed of, save with the command of the one who creates it, namely, a defensive property.
also it stands to reason that there may be some repercussions for forming such a creature, in the plot of the game, having the golem turn against the creator, i.e. siding with the nazis somehow, or being unwittingly a tool in their plans might be compelling and might shock those either unfamiliar with the story or expecting a complete overhaul without the main theme.

but yeah, i'm not suggesting it has rpg qualities in the level up sense, but definitely abilities that change depending on the materials it's composed of. also multiple material contents and percentages might be a cool mechanic, finding a balance between brittleness or malleability or things like that.
obviously i'm just taking the idea and running with it here, but that suggests it's a pretty cool idea in my book.

>>21742078
You do realize that Hitler had Ernst Röhm killed for being gay, right?
It's funny. I had a homosexual alt-right friend from college who was obsessed with Röhm as well. Guy was an "intellectual" like you; even had Röhm as his discord profile picture for a little bit. I decided to research him a bit myself after he told me about the guy. Naturally, he refused to believe me when I told him about the "Hitler killed Röhm for being gay" thing, so I doubt you will either.
Anyhow, given your (potentially willful) misunderstanding of Röhm's story, I have little reason to believe the other things you've mentioned, like that bit about Nazi African-American tolerance. I'm sure blacks could roam freely, like you said, but there's probably some other part of the story that you're leaving out.
> I see you have a very limited mind, as you state that Fascism is so evil
Look, my dude. Fascism obviously isn't the worst thing in the world; that dubious honor would probably go to Communism. But the way I see it: while Communism is worse, Fascism is definitely more evil. In fact, in my opinion, Fascism is the only thing I know of on this planet that can actually even be called "evil."
I used to not beleive in evil. I used to think everyone was either sick, misguided, or misunderstood. But reading the whole thing about "master/slave morality..." I was disturbed not just by how amoral it was, but how much it made sense.
Because when you boil it down, the anti-moralists are correct. There IS no basis for morality. There IS no reason to not just do whatever you can get away with. The strong prosper and the weak die out: Darwin was right, it's a dog-eat-dog world out there.
So their perception of the world is basically correct. But the conclusion, the CONCLUSION they draw... my GOD. That we should all just live like animals! That we all just start stabbing each other in the back! These jungle-worshipers idealize a Hobbsean hellscape, and they want to spread that around the world.
You can't call that sick, you can't call that misguided, and you can't call that misunderstood. These people aren't deluded, they are perfectly aware of what they are doing, and correct in that they will benefit from it. The only word left that we have to describe it, therefore, is evil.
You can't even just call it amoral. It's explicitly ANTI-MORAL. They think morals are for losers, that they deserve anything that's coming to them. Communism is obviously horrible, but at least commies are TRYING to make the world a better place. Anti-moralists look at this cruel, cruel world of ours, and the only conclusion they can draw is that it isn't cruel ENOUGH. That it needs to be replaced with something even more wicked and cutthroat than what we currently already have.
But anyway, I doubt we'll see eye-to-eye on this issue. I get it if you're disgusted by aspects of the modern left, I am too. But you're not immune to propaganda, and you're a lot less intelligent than you think you are.

>>21742191
to me what's appealing about the idea of the golem is its presence. it's this clay monster in an otherwise non supernatural world. I don't think doing things like modifications etc would make it better, the best part of the idea (to me) is just playing as this silent monster, being unnatural and unpredictable to everyone around you.

>>21742211
fair enough.

>>21742102
Thanks, anon. I appreciate your vote of confidence. From you, and all the others in this thread.
Obviously, it’s entirely possible that this thread is just filled with the "Jewish shills" that /pol/ keeps ranting about (which I wouldn’t doubt the existence of; since there are certainly other government agencies on that site). But still: if actual Jews are intrigued and not offended by my game idea, that’s actually a good thing. Hell, I might even be able to get some funding for the project this way.

>>21742107
My mind is strong. I can look into the abyss a little longer than most. I fear not learning what others think, like other liberals. We on the left need to stop fearing the truth, if we are ever going to succeed.

>>21742144
>>21742162
>>21742167
>>21742173
>>21742191
>>21742211
>>21742216
I like your ideas, guys. But you gotta keep in mind that we're going for God of War combat and "Batman/predator stealth" here.
Giving him powers akin to Clayface and Sandman (the Batman and Spider-Man villains, respectively), along with the other powers he inexplicably has in the Prague Golem story (invisibility, raising dead spirits etc.) very much lends itself to the desired fear-inducing stealth approach, in my opinion. And I think he should remain made out of clay, as he traditionally is, both because it lends himself to the aformentioned powers, and since it's a direct reference to the whole "God made Adam from the earth" thing.
Also, as interesting as siding with Nazis might be as a plot twist, I'm not sure we should allow the player to go THAT far. But still, I'm really glad that you guys like and seem to even "get" my idea. And I apologize for shooting down your suggestions so far lol.
If you DO have any other ideas about what you'd like to see in this game, I'd be happy to hear them. I obviously can't gurantee I'll do everything you say, but I'd be happy to consider your thoughts. That's why I came to this board, after all.

>>21742201
>You do realize that Hitler had Ernst Röhm killed for being gay, right?
No, he had him killed to purge the left wing faction that was becoming openly rebellious, in a situation in which Hitler was trying to prevent the arrogant Prussian aristocratic Wehrmacht from going full military junta with the old conservative establishment around Papen that hated Hitler and only let him get so far in an attempt to tame him and let his movement's energies fizzle out. The SA was the more openly paramilitary quasi-communist revolutionary wing of the party and fucking hated the old establishment and its mailed first the Wehrmacht, and didn't want to make any accommodations with it, "strategic" or otherwise. There were other elements in the party that were making Hitler easy to smear by association too. The Night of the Long Knives is still one of the most controversial aspects of the NSDAP even among fans of the Nazis for a reason.

Fascists were hardly racist, only normal levels of racist that all normal people are by default. Every society has racism. National Socialists were far more race-scientistic especially at the top, where vulgar retards like Rosenberg were being so nakedly programmatic about it that it that would have made Gobineau and Chamberlain cringe. That kind of scientific racism was rare and weird even at the time, even in the 19th century too. Most people simply aren't obsessed about race if given the choice, nobody is naturally a skull-measuring IQ score obsessed guy except rare autists in exceptional situations like when your whole society has a mandatory religion of DENYING the possibility of IQ disparities, and you need something to rally around. But the most vulgar aspects of Nazi race science were indeed seen as highly vulgar by most normal people. Again, normal people are normal: they don't like racemixing as a norm because they think people should be proud of who they are and appearance is a part of that, but understand that it happens on the fringes of societies. They don't want Somalians in Italy, but don't hate Somalians or anything, and understand if Somalians don't want Italians in Somalia. The most chauvinistic they might get is colonial mentality of "well what were the dumb Africans going to do if we didn't help them anyway," but I think we're all pretty well past this now and I for one don't want double standards for any country.

Fascism really has nothing to do necessarily with race science, with Spencerian "survival of the fittest"-ism, or with "supremacism" (a made-up MKULTRA word; the vast majority of white nationalists are separatists, not "supremacists," and aggressively criticize "supremacists" because the latter are either deluded skinheads or MKULTRA victims, which is saying the same thing).

Fascism is, minimally, just ethnonationalism + socialism as a centripetal force against the centrifugal forces of modernity.

>>21742241
>We on the left need to stop fearing the truth, if we are ever going to succeed.
Looks like you won't be on the left for long then.

>>21742241
if i can make but one request of the game, don't make him a lumpy dopey type of golem, make him a svelte and cool *while still being obviously made of clay* type of a figure. no reason he shouldn't at least be nifty somehow. he doesn't have to be totally humanoid necessarily, but making a more modern riff on the big bulky figure would be a really good idea. otherwise, i was just flinging out some thoughts, and like i said, it's a good one and you'll make a good game out of this. be sure to mention it in a thread similar to this un when you start doing dev work, or release anything in alpha. i'd definitely like to see what your vision ultimately culminates in.

>>21740130
Kill yourself kike faggot end your worthless existence

>>21742111
this is a pretty cool video. i like this guy's honest love for research and sharing it. quality stuff here.

>>21742254
I'm aware that Nationalist Socialism is literally just that: Nationalist Socialism. It isn't "Workers of the World Unite," it's "Workers of My Country Unite (also fuck the rest of the world, let's take their shit)." At an ideological level, the only real difference between Communism and Fascism is that they blame the exact same problems on different people. Everything commies blame on the bourgeoisie, the fascists blame on a minority or outsider group (the Jews, the English, the Communists themsleves etc.). Other than that, they speak mostly to the same concerns (while having slightly different styles: Fascism's machismo, Nationalism, etc.).

So I know what Fascism is. I know that it's basically just a societal reaction to certain things, and I even think Umberto Eco's "14 Points" don't really define it very well (although I love the guy's other work). But I still see the ideology as disgustingly horrific. Once again, the similarities between Fascism and Communism become self-evident: you're acting like a commie liberal who assumes nobody could disagree with you if they knew what you know.

So I think you're the guy here who isn't getting it. As I predicted in my last post, you've refused to believe that Röhm was killed for his homosexuality. I'm sure there were other factors here as well, but splitting hairs over them is like saying the Civil War "wasn't really about slavery." Yeah, there were political and economic factors that played a role, but that doesn't detract from the root causes. Don't miss the forest for the trees.

>>21742263
Lord knows I've been disillusioned by political correctness and identity politics. The CRT thing in particular is barbaric, and I've lost friends over my beliefs regarding transgender issues. But I still believe in the old liberal values, and don't see any other side fighting for them. So even if the ACLU has become irredeemably corrupted, and no one's fighting for free speech anymore, that doesn't mean I can join just the right. Even if they hadn't abandoned most of their morals as well, I wouldn't trust them to fix certain issues in this world, or not turn on the groups that I care about after they gain enough power. So I'm sticking on the side I'm on: we're gonna need to rebuild the left after all these lunatics drive it into the ground.

>>21742275
Thanks, bro. I've already saved a link to this thread, for when it gets archived.
I'm not sure it should really be "svelte and cool," like you said. I still want him to be a bulky, obviously inhuman tank. But I think he might shapeshift into various Nazi officers after stealing their clothes, so there might be a little room for that behavior.

>>21742287
Like I already said, I'm not Jewish. By >>21742172's interpretation, I suppose I'm already a gentile Golem myself lol.

>>21742363
ok maybe not svelte, but definitely make him cool af

>>21742363
Why would they work with Rohm for years if the issue was his homosexuality? There were plenty of homosexuals around at the time. Also, if the specific differentia of "evil" and "fascism" is "HATES FAGS MUST KILL ALL FAGS," not only does this fail to explain the pre-1934 actions of the NSDAP, it fails to distinguish fascism from many liberal regimes, e.g. in the case of Alan Turing.

Again, normal people just don't care. Fags are a rare phenomenon. Most people find them kind of charming in small doses. It's fun to know one of your friends is a buggerer. Who cares. Hitler had an extremely small window of time and an extremely fragile bit of good fortune in 1933-1934 and couldn't afford to squander either. Look up the Papen cabinet and what Papen's plans were.

Mussolini's Fascism was even more laissez faire. You could basically do and say anything you wanted, nobody gave a shit. Fascism isn't totalitarian, it's authoritarian. You might have worse luck in Legionary Romania, obviously, but that's more of a cultural issue than anything. You have the modern propagandized form of liberalism in your head that obsesses to an unhealthy degree over "self-expression." The original form of liberality is just laissez faire, it isn't "GET ME A GAY GUY SO I CAN WATCH HIM SUCK A COCK RIGHT NOW!! EXPRESS YOURSELF IN FRONT OF ME, GAY!!" It's leaving him alone and shrugging your shoulders because the basic core of society is NOT a bunch of fags trying to push their shit on children.

For the same reason, and this is a hard sell I know, Italian Fascism at least was barely antisemitic. Jews are just fine. Even Evola, who thought Jews were actually pretty heavily involved in degeneracy, didn't link this with some "Jewish essence" (much less the NSDAP biological race fixation). He understood that a people can be doing poorly due to historical circumstances, like the Jews who have been brutalized into unhealthy secularism and itinerancy by the Russians especially, while also still being basically just a people, with rights and with duties to tend its traditions.

This will be my last post because it's derailing OP's thread. Sorry OP. On topic, OP should consider that there are hints in the golem stories that it is unnatural to create a golem using alchemy. Voegelin reports a story in which a created golem reprimands its creator for tampering with the divine prerogative, and then "kills itself" (destroys its own vessel). You may want to look into the Christian tradition of the brazen head, which has similar connotations and I would guess has some cross-over with or roots in the golem tradition.

just throwing another random thing out, maybe you'll find some use of some of these. that's the idea at least.
please make a major theme of it truth, since that's a large part of the golem myth and literally the word it has written on it.

>>21742372
Yeah, don't worry. This Golem is gonna be an awesome, terrifying Terminator of an automaton.

One idea for a scene that I like is of a Nazi officer approaching the Golem from behind in a dark alleyway, drawing his gun, and shouting "freeze!" And then instead of putting its hands up, or even just turning around, the Golem’s face and front-facing features get sucked into its body and reappear on its back (now its front) to face the officer with glowing yellow eyes. One hand’s thumb gets flipped around to complete this change in direction, and the other just turns into a giant spike. And as the Golem begins to lurch slowly towards the officer – its heavy footsteps reverberating down the alley – the Jew it was accompanying fearfully turns away so as to not watch.

Also – though I realize the whole "Biblically accurate angels" thing is kind of a meme – I kind of want to find some excuse to add Biblically accurate angels to this whole ordeal. Like... there'd be a scene towards the end where you'd be greeted by an archangel, who'd tell you that the Nazis had originally been "fated to lose," and then show you actual real-life v-day photographs of the Allies winning the war (the sailor kissing the girl, etc.). It'd be a "The Man in the High Castle" sort of deal. But then all the pictures would go up in flames, and the angel would say that history had been irrevocably altered. But you already knew this, didn't you. Unlike these people, you'd seen the world the way it was meant to be. God gave you that vision; it's why He allowed you to exist in the first place: so you could fix the abberation once and for all.

And then the Angel would take you through a bunch of visions from Jewish history you could play through:
> You’d be on an Israeli battlefield slaughtering Cannanites, and look down to see the blood on your sword.
> You’d be there when the Romans finally drove the Jews out of Israel, and spread them all over the world.
> You’d see what happened to previous Golems, like the Chełm and Prague one, and experience things through their eyes.
> You’d see many painful events throughout Jewish history, before zooming out on the planet to see how Jews had spread all over the world.
This last scene would make a reference to the whole "Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth" thing from Genesis 28:14, before making an ominous allusion to the ashes of Nazi cremation. Then the vision would end: spitting you back out into reality, so you could take on the final level.

I don't know if I'll actually be able to have that whole sequence. It wouldn't lend itself very well to asset reuse, since I'd have to make new enemies for all the historical scenes. But it'd be kind of kickass if we could have it, and I enjoy imagining the sequence in my ideal version of the game.

>>21742363
>But I still see the ideology as disgustingly horrific
How can you read something like For My Legionaries or hear a Mosley speech against colonialism and think it's disgustingly horrific?

>>21742363
You clearly do not know what fascism or communism is, I won’t claim to know anything myself but you should realize how stupid and meaningless it is to say that it’s “basically just a reaction to certain things”

>>21740169
>And yet for some fucking reason, NO ONE has thought to do a story about one of these things murdering Nazis.
Nimdok's chapter in ''I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream'' is explicitly about this; Mengele creates a golem and it goes rampant. Sorry but it's just not very original. Also as someone else pointed out, Jewish folklore unequivocally portrays the use of golems as short-sighted and hubristic. Before you start LARPing as a philosemite, maybe read some actual literature.

>>21742459
you could make the archangel a fairy buddy like Navi, to cut some of the seriousness of the game. But overall, yeah man, i can see your passion oozing out from you, but the key at this point is capitalizing on that passion, and making something of it instead of finding time for it. i had a 'grand idea' for some time, but now all my mana is spent, and i'm cursed wondering what could have been. go at it!

>>21740265
>they suddenly realize with horror that the Rabbi who made you isn't around to deactivate you anymore. And none of them actually know how to turn you off when your job is done
Every Jew knows you erase the first letter in the Shem lmao. This is like creating a game where no one can figure out that werewolves transform during the full moon.

>>21742492
he was talking about a game you fucking retard, and it's funny to see you talking about reading "actual literature" as you mention I have no mouth

I don't have much to contribute but 'golem' is one of my all-time favourite words. I like 'ogre' too.

>>21742535
>he was talking about a game you fucking retard
https://youtu.be/mXw7pq3nuYM
Yes you fucking mongoloid; the videogame adaptation of I Have No Mouth includes the very chapter I am referencing. Suck off a shotgun and turn your head into a canoe, you illiterate ape.

>>21742427
Well I'm sorry we can't see eye-to-eye on this issue, anon, but I appreciate your restraint. Don't feel bad about derailing the thread; I've enjoyed our discussion, and frankly expected far worse from the users of this board. That everyone isn't telling me to an hero is kind of a miracle, here.
And I'll take your ideas into consideration as well. The Voegelin thing is worth looking up, and I'll research the "brazen head" thing as well.

>>21742436
Ooooo, that's a REALLY good idea. There was certainly a blatant disregard for truth in Nazi propaganda, so making that a theme would actually be pretty interesting.
I was already thinking that for the sequences where the Golem takes the form of an enemy to impersonate, it might be cool if the Hebrew word for "Truth" changes into the Hebrew word for "lie" for a split second before the transformation process is complete. But I'm not sure how well that would work, and I still haven't decided where the power-giving word is gonna be on my Golem's body.

>>21742469
I'll take a look at those speeches, but if you can't even understand why someone would describe Fascism as "disgustingly horrific," then I'm not sure I can explain it to you. Best of luck.

>>21742488
Nice thematically-relevant dubs. Looks like that fourth "2" from the end there was just one digit off lol.
But anyway, I apologize for the vagueness of the "certain things" phrasing. Being vague is a problem that I sometimes have in my writing, and I'm trying to work on it. But I know what fascism and communism are.

>>21742492
Really? You don't say! I read ''I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream," and I don't remember anything abou-
> Nimdok's chapter.
Oh, I just Googled this. You're talking about the video game. Don't worry, >>21742535, he's talking about a video game. Ah well. I guess that's why I hadn't heard of it, then.
I realize I'm not being very original, here, but I still think the idea is fun. And I'm aware of how Jewish folklore portrays the use of Golems, that's precisely why I want to make a game about one.
Also, while I do want Mengele to be a boss fight, obviously it's a little different to have a Rabbi create a Golem explicitly to fight Nazis. And it's a little odd for you to criticize people for lacking video game literacy (>>21742558) on an actual literature board.

>>21742507
Lol I don't think the Angel should be like Navi, though that IS a funny idea. I think it should make various mysterious appearences in different forms like the G-Man throughout the game, before revealing itself to you in full.
But again: thanks for the encouragement, anon. I'll try to do you proud.

>>21742530
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but doesn't the Rabbi have to say some incantations first before removing the aleph and deactivating the Golem?

I might be wrong, because I haven't read any adult versions of these stories (hence why I started this thread). But even if it turns out that ANYBODY can deactivate the Golems in the original tales, I can just retcon it to say that only the Rabbi can do it in my version. I'm taking some liberties here already, mind you: it's not like the original Golems had Clayface powers lol.

Also, you've got your stories mixed up. A "Shem" is one of the true names of God. Some stories DO feature a Golem being brought to life with one of those, yes, but removing the first letter from the life-giving word only works if that word was the Hebrew word for truth: "Amet." Removing the aleph in that word changes that word to "met," which means death. So I don't think taking away the first letter of any given Shem would make any difference.

Anyhow, I'm very happy with this thread, but I gotta run off now and do some errands. I'll come back and answer any other questions you guys have if the thread remains alive.

>>21742600
Jew here, shem (שם) means name. hashem (השם) meaning "the name" is a way to refer to God, although it's used as a replacement to not use a holy name. Also it's emet, not amet.

>>21742636
The original spelling isn’t in the Latin alphabet, anon. Splitting hairs over which Latin vowel to use is like complaining about “tsar” vs. “czar.”

>>21742666
I'm not going to cry about it but A doesn't make an "eh' sound and E does. doesn't matter much anyways.

>>21742581
>I'll take a look at those speeches
You're in for a treat. One of the greatest speeches ever. It used to be on youtube, but it got purged. You would think he's spreading hate, but you can see for yourself that he isn't saying anything unreasonable or hateful. Perhaps the people who control the world don't want you to hear by yourself what fascism has to say. Maybe they do like exploiting the third world and keeping the citizens of the first in a slumber, indifferent to never ending wars, to losing their God given rights, to see their own land turned into a glorified sweatshop.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/edQgzan0Qngy/

>>21740130
You should include achievement where you need to collect a certain amount of foreskin to become the ultimate rabbi. And then you get a secrete ending where your character sucks bloody baby cock

>>21742760
>https://www.bitchute.com/video/edQgzan0Qngy/
Unironically inspiring.

>>21740130
Make it Ass Goblins of Auschwitz over the top. It has to be absurd and cartoonish (and fun). Needs to have German occult stuff to play off of raid Wewelsberg castle

>>21742802
That’s pretty weird, anon. Why would you think up something like that?

>>21742095
He won't do that. And this thread seems totally organic.

>>21742111
Ooo... I HAVEN'T watched this!
It looks very interesting, and will probably help with my project. So thanks; I'll check it out now.

>>21740130
Cool game idea op.

Here's why I think it hasn't been done: (pol posting)
the golem story is a metaphor for jews who use witchcraft (lies, propaganda) to turn the soulless (goyim, clay) into an animate creature, ostensibly in service of the tribe, yet always told as a cautionary tale, where the golem turns on who it was designed to protect.

So effectively, the nazis ARE the golem, after it has turned on it's master.

>>21744821
>>21740130
Are you serious about this?
What about starting a repo or something

>>21744889
Eh... I've got a few things regarding my living situation that I need to sort out before I dive into this in proper.
And I also have a billion other game/story/AI-animation ideas that are vying for my attention, and I'm not totally sure which one I'm gonna do first.
But I plan to get to it eventually. I DO have a github account, though it's mostly devoted to the portfolio I built up for front-end/back-end work. I think there's only one other game on there, and it isn't even finished, and I don't think it even works now that the API key I was using expired.

>>21740130
>I want to make a game where you play as one and kill Nazis.
Can't you game developers be original for once in your lives? What is it with Nazis? Read Meyrink's Golem and make a game based on that, and I guarantee that you will at least have a cult classic and a bunch of nerdy women who will be willing to sleep with you.
>My understanding is that the most famous Golem story is the Prague Golem one
Yes, so go and read the book I recommended and scrap the vapid nonsense.

>>21744906
I have an idea like this, where I don't understand why there's no game for it already as it seems obvious-

a game where you play as a necromancer and you kingdom build. first you have basic skeletons that collect resources, then squad leaders that let you form combat units, raiding graveyards and battlefields for corpses and souls, having your skeletons gather resources, eventually fighting npc armies and hero squads

>>21744920
Eh... I'm aware that Nazis are an old hat, at this point, and frankly uninteresting. But there should be at least one good game where a Golem fights them.

>>21740169
>NO ONE has thought to do a story about one of these things murdering Nazis.

Because both the pop-culture version and 'historical' version of golems is actually a complete heresy in all semetic religions. Only god can create a body from nothing and give life to nothing, to use sorcery to usurp that power is considered extremely evil and a man made golem would most certainly be evil/heavily inclined to do evil. Historically, a few jews claimed to create golems, and like most jewish grifts they included a lot of spicy details to make it sound real and plausible, but even with a very minute understanding of the religion you would understand how utterly vile the concept of a golem is.

>>21742530
>golem is too tall to reach it’s head
what now

>>21740130
What would the nazi magic look like? Maybe they’re not just doing the holocaust for political reasons. Maybe they need to harvest souls for their nazi magic or something.

>>21745151
Well clearly the golem didn’t kill Hitler, so the plan must have backfired somehow.

>>21740169
>The Jews you'd save would be grateful.
Imagine fucking believing this. They were never grateful for the sacrifices in liberating the camps or for the Vatican saving them.

>>21740130
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>>21740212
It's a bit bizarre to have these revenge fantasies against nazis, in the light if how jews treat Palestinians. Do you ever experience spells of cognitive dissonance?

>>21740169
>The Jews you'd save would be grateful, but also kind of unnerved.
There are stories from American veterans from WW2 being spat on by he jews they liberated from the camps. Does New York strike you as a city where veterans are respected?

>>21745264
I never thought about it like that

You should turn the anti semetic things people say on 4chan into actual nazi dialogue

>>21745515
paleshits are subhuman

>>21742078
>can't be truly ruled by gentiles
are ruled by the gentiles but think if they lie to themselves it somehow makes a difference

>>21740169
>It's actually frankly bizarre that no one has done a game about this before.
It could make a good Wolfenstein mod. As a standalone game with its own narrative, however, it would be unpopular due to the way traditional golem stories end.
>>21742095
Bingo. Golems turn on their masters.

there is 1979 polish film called Golem about this story, you can watch it on 35mm.com website, this may be of interest to you , however it's just slow dystopian art film

>>21742760
WTF I love fascism now

>>21745523
Interesting. Where can I learn about these stories?

>/lit/ - Golems and Video Game Design

>>21743695
>he doesn't know
https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/safe-bris.page

>>21745541
Kys

>>21745515
It's just a game.

>>21746580
Somebody (>>21740457) beat you to it.
Good attempt, though. Interesting how minds think alike: Newton and Leibniz inventing calculus, etc.