/lit/ - Literature

>>21701101
>How do I find a philosopher a bit more intellectually honest?
Zizek

>>21701101
>>everyone before me is retarded
>>makes his own rules and definitions of success
He didn’t say that retard, his works are literally just a synthesis of Heraclitus and Parmenides. His only original idea was the forms which he used to bridge the gap between the Heraclitean physical world and the Parmenidean One and to give Socrates’s prioritization of ethics as a means to noesisba metaphysical justification.

>>21701101
>escape /pol/ because it is infested with low IQ threads
>now all of a sudden, /lit/ is just as bad and retarded

>>21701116
Žižek is probably one of the most interesting philosophers of our time. He positions himself as some sort of 'transgressive' or 'rebel' within the establishment, but a more accurate definition for his brand of thinking would be the most pure form of anti-rebellion. He holds exactly the same values as the system, and in fact pushes past what is seen as 'socially acceptable' support for the system. He is, in every way, the strongest and most fierce supporter of the system he positions himself against, and maintains a sense of 'false rebellion' by utilizing transgressive language.
Those that feel disatisfied with the system can safely espouse Žižek's philosophy and false transgressivism without in any way provoking or harming the system that they require to survive.

He is representative of the new age of 'eternal rebellion.' In the past, rebel movements would oppose the system directly, and the system would return in kind. Now, the system has nearly perfected the art of controlled opposition. In fact, it has successfully utilized propaganda to convince the vast majority of the world that the ruling class is the 'oppressed minority, the transgressives, the rebels,' while those who resist the current power structure are 'fascists, demagogues, oppressors' and the true force that controls society.

>>21701101
>>21701165
samefag

>>21701101
Nietzsche is about as anti Socrates/Plato as it gets, in all but superficial style, which he stole from Plato
his message he stole from the devil's edgy monologue at the end of Dostoevsky's Brothers Karamazov

utterly garbage "philosopher"

>>21701366
It's a real question though. A lot of Plato seems like advertising to me

>>21701101
Aristotle.
https://youtu.be/UP4U0e1y_FQ

>>21703612
It's literally what the other anon says >>21701165

>>21704020
I would perhaps add Pythagoras too, but it is simply a synthesis of Heraclitus, Parmenides, Pythagoras and Orphics. But then again, in order to find out about all that, you would have to pick up a book and read about it.

>>21701587
Original Socrates from the aporia dialogues was sorta Nietzschean sometimes.

>>21701116
Who?

>>21704386
No it wasn’t.

>>21701366
>"""escape""" /pol/
you tourists brought your diseases with you. OP though, just happens to be retarded.

>>21701101
Harken to the Heebs, specifically Solomon and his gem: Ecclesiastes.
>Whatever lies in thy power, do while do it thou canst; there will be no doing, no scheming, no wisdom or skill left to thee in the grave, that soon shall be thy home.'

>>21704474
In Hipparchus, he argues for greed and self-interest. That’s like the reverse of the “slave morality” he is known for according to N.

>>21701101
Behold! I've brought you a man!

>>21704734
Increasingly glad I capped picrel

>>21701101
His whole thing was seething about Heraclitus’ philosophy of nature and sense and looking to subordinate it so maybe read some interpretations of the fragments

>>21704755
>still making pseuds mad thousands of years before

>>21701101
>How do I find a philosopher a bit more intellectually honest?
Diogenes

>>21704755
>Increasingly glad I capped picrel
I bet you read and enjoyed Meditations by Marcus Aurelius

>>21701101
In reality, he had said that Parmenides is the father of philosophy.

>>21705810
He also liked Aesop and Heraclitus. The only people he eplicitly derrided were the sophists and Homer.

>>21705817
>The only people he eplicitly derrided were the sophists and Homer.
Homer is a bad person.

>>21704755
>>21704774
>redditors worship ancient Diogenes
>redditors despise the modern-day equivalent of Diogenes

>>21705909
Rather, it was his thoughts on the morality of divinity which he considered to be bad.

>>21703612
Plato's secret was that his 'philosophy'
Is just repackaged and rebranded satanism from Egypt. I say satanism but I really mean dark occultic eastern religion.

>>21705951
you're half right
>this is from Solon who came back from Egypt
It's no secret, where Plato got half of his ideas.
>I really mean dark occultic eastern religion
Yeah, this was big in Egypt but it wasn't unknown at all in ancient Greece, the mystery schools and temple cults traced back beyond written history, in Magna Graeca they were cultivated, and then ported to Rome, and certainly influenced many New Testament teachings, subtly. The sacrificial goat of Pan or Bacchus became the sacrificial lamb. Why? Jesus was sold as Dionysus to Greek-speakers.