/lit/ - Literature

God just shut the fuck up

>>21664111
Most of the books currently released on the market are genre-fiction of a quality that usually lies below AI prompt so this really isn't a decline

>>21664120
Books are supposed to be a window into human thought and soul. This corrupts it.

>>21664111
actually reads like F. Gardner

>>21664123
It's a neural network trained on what people have written. The source is still human.

>>21664131
No.

>>21664134
Yes.

>>21664123
most books currently released are a window into people who don't have souls and barely have thoughts, I don't give a shit if Brandon Sanderson or Patrick Rothfuss get replaced by robots because they are already not much more themselves

>>21664141
>>21664145
why are you cheering for the death of a medium? movies, tv, games are all fucked... books had the benefit of being something that could be produced by one person. yes you have cheap pastiche shit, but you also have the chance one person's vision will be able to make it into a piece of art.

>>21664123
Have you seen the
>current
Human?
They are corrupted.

thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind

>>21664111
Anyone remotely impressed with this has an IQ of a Walrus

>>21664290
even dumber are people who are scared by it

>>21664111
>AI generated books are probably flooding the market as we speak
>implying AI writes fanfic faster than a 12y/o
It's slowed down by knowing the anatomy of reproduction; it never had a chance.

>>21664290
I'm sure that AI will replace artists, writers, etc. but I'm not scared because I don't publish anything. I'm actually sort of amused by this because people are getting in fact, swallowed by the slop they want so much. I'm sure that the best, most heartfelt novel, or the greatest, most beautiful work of art I'll be able to create will not be as interesting to the average person as whatever litRPG or gacha porn shit AI will be able to generate based on the user's social media profiling. It's just a fact. I look at this like I look at a morbidly obese man who croaks at the ripe age of 30. I don't exist to save this man, I don't exist like my own cooking is in competition with the greasy shit he gobbles every day, I'm just going to shake my head at him and keep cooking my meals.

>>21664111

>>21664111
This isn't even good.

But can it write the n word?

>>21664322
Use your writing skills to make an advertising pitch to a social club that a midwit couldn’t understand much less accept, those shall be your audience

>>21664329
>the reanimated corpse is grotesque
yes, but many people would prefer the reanimated corpse. this is something that critics never understand: people actually prefer the worse option. People DO prefer the reanimated corpse because the corpse is utterly compliant. Commercial art is a service market and now that the tastes have been established and the period of experimentation is over, people just want an efficient service to be delivered instantly, and AI does that better than anyone. People don't CARE, they just want to say, hey, make me sum porn of the new whore from the vidya. And the AI goes BAM, here's yet another image in a vague anime style where the new whore from the vidya is spreading her pussy. That's all people want. The vast majority of people would be perfectly OK living with a tube up their ass draining waste from them, a tube in their mouth feeding them nutrient paste, IV pumping drugs into their brain and a virtual reality visor glued to their fucking eyeballs, 24/7 until they die. There is literally no difference between a chicken in a factory farm and a human being in this time, except that the chicken is pitiable because it didn't choose to live such a shit life while the human willfully chooses it upon himself simply because humans will always, ALWAYS choose the path of least resistance. This is why we need an even more devilish 0.1% to fuck humanity in the ass harder and harder and stomp its collective face with a boot harder and harder, because they're just so fucking stupid that all that's left to do is wish that they get exactly what they want.

Its not perfect yet. It gets repetitive and forgets shit the more questions you ask. Its got potential. My favourite shit to do is generate a short story with characters written in the style of whoever and then randomly make them play a chess match or write a song or create an ascii image or the scene. again its got miles to go but its such a fun autistic playtool

>>21664347
>a social club that a midwit couldn’t understand much less accept
No such thing because this isn't a matter of sheer intellect, this is a matter of integrity and people who value integrity are not an audience. I'm not even sure how few they are but it seems like everyone is caving under the pressure. I don't think that anyone who values integrity is capable of contact with others at this point. It would be like gathering a bunch of hikikomori. How do you know where they are? What if they don't want to come out? When I go out I'm indistinguishable from the rest, I put on a face and nod when people talk.

>>21664344
>humans now BANNED from publishing works of literature
>millions of lives were saved

>>21664111
Michelangelo and any number of master painters ran ateliers and would have their underlings lay down the base layer shits. Same principle here, except its text you feed treatments and then pare down/edit at your discretion. Might actually improve Hollywood paint by numbers committee script bullshit eventually.

>>21664381
All the great men of history became great by finding a group of people who could understand what they said and using them to develop their ideas into something that can actually change the world when released onto the masses. Mahomet started with only 4 converts he told of his revelation by Jibreel

>>21664290
>>21664298
>>21664338
you do realise that these things will get incredibly good pretty soon, right? it just released and with all the recent traction millions of people are willing to help improve it.
if you can't see the potential you're just in denial.

you thought this was impressive?

>>21664120
this. If you're writing anything decent, you really shouldn't be worried, or you shouldn't be anymore worried than you already are. The market has been flooded with bots for decades, contra to what this retard thinks (>>21664123)

>society is about to radically change so there’s no chance for social criticism

>>21664415
>two more weeks!

>>21664420
>goes on /lit
>actively cheers for the death of literature
your birth was an error, you have no idea the scope of the problems this will create.

>>21664433
>goes on /lit/
>has awful reading comp

Juvenile prose and grammar.

>>21664442
i can read just fine you disingenuous sack of shit, you think that because people choose to express garbage in books that we should just let computers reconstitute that garbage into books instead of getting people to write books. know how many people's first book sucks? fucking all of them. but congratulations, you're clapping for a tool that creates futility in even trying, because it'll outpace writers in producing that garbage. best yet is that nothing published will be trustworthy because nobody is going to label their books as AI generated. oh look a fresh dystopian novel exploring some of the themes of technocracies? utterly untrustworthy because it could just be some AI written reconstituted drivel without a morsel of human interaction. you thought books were bad when they were flooded with women? now companies like amazon can drown out genuine literature by automatically generating enough shit around it that you won't even have the choice of the human book. this is a tool of the technocrats to suppress human voices, you simple, blithering, moron.

>>21664111
So it hasn't read "The Young Hitler I Knew" by August kubizek yet

>>21664464
>know how many people's first book sucks? fucking all of them
wrong see pic related
>but robbits will replace all the boomer single mothers shitting out the same bodice ripper yearly!
good

>>21664486
>i'm not cheering for the death of literature
>i'm just cheering for the death of literature
why are you even on this board? go and watch netflix originals.

>>21664491
go and work on your reading comprehension

>>21664535
go back

>>21664415
Retard

>>21664387
Look, Jamal, you need to stop overreacting

>>21664111
Literature just resurrected*

>>21664272
If you don't like it, just don't consume it? It's as simple as that.

>>21664111
>It's unironically over.
It's just getting started, friend.

>>21664111
This is r/writingprompts tier.

>>21664432
ai art has progressed insanely rapidly over the past few months. artists went from making fun of it to protesting it in like 3 months. this happens to every worker as automation progresses in their field. so yeah a few more weeks is about right lol. you retards are so comfortable

>>21664601
>If you don't like it, just don't consume it
Fucking decadent mentality. I would literally punch every single faggot who says this if i could

literature has been dead
not a single person here reads contemporary literature
there has been not a single a masterwork or stroke of genius since the 80s and that's being generous cause the 80s were awful

>>21666068
The 80s had BOTNS, at least.

>>21664111
>just
no it was a while ago, I generated a bunch of AI stories about black women subjugating and humiliating white men when I had unfettered access to GPT3.

>>21666068
everybody here has read Blood Meridian, that is contemporary

>>21664111
>Literature just died. It's unironically over.
Good.

>>21666032
Why? If there's a need, there is a market. Most people don't like art made by AI because it's "soulless", so there will always be human-made art. Also, art made by AI can't be "revolutionary" or "reinventitive" such as human-made art is. The only way for AI literature to be popular is to be consumed.
Also, AI novels will, most probably, stay on Wattpad.

>>21666963
short sighted and dumb.
see >>21664464
you cannot understand how this will be wielded against us

Ai is impressive to soulless pajeets.

>>21666970
Oh noooo, people who just want to make books to sell and not to express themselves will use AI. What a disaster. Please, My Lord, I hope they don't take Mistborn #24 from me, I couldn't live a happy life without that book.

Nobody buys litfic books anyways

>>21664111
>Literature just died. It's unironically over.
It’s what, Brian? Over.

>>21664111
This reads like 6th grade fanfiction at best.
If this is what we're to expect from AI from the time being, I think we'll be fine.

>>21664111
1. Make AI companies liable to be sued by anyone who ever posted content on the internet/created anything that was used in training
2. Foster resentment against all of the soulless nerds that are busily working to make human beings superfluous. Maybe build camps.

>>21666987
i bet you're still in denial over how bad smartphones were for the world too

>>21664120
This applies doubly so to all the /ic/tards seething about AI. They cry about le plagiarism while pirating courses.

>>21664111
>Literature just died. It's unironically over.
>AI generated books are probably flooding the market as we speak and most of you won't even stand a chance.
What if I told you that AI has been writing news for like a decade already? I was reading in SciAm and New Scientist when I was MUCH younger about AI systems developed to write out game highlights and weather reports. So we've been reading AI produced works for years, none the wiser and has it really had an impact? Granted factual accounts are a far cry from literature as a concept but as a practice. Books have likely been generated at least in part by means of software systems. I just have a hard time thinking it matters.
I have given this some thought, particularly with the rise of AI imagery. I'm an artist/photographer though I never call myself that but I have been paid for my work in a professional capacity many times. I've grown to quite like using systems like Stable Diffusion and Dalle2 to produce 'simulated' film photography. I don't particularly see a difference between an AI generated work and one take by hand but I know I value a real work more and I know most others do as well and that largely shuts the door to ai work for anyone that actually cares about the art they are consuming and how it was produced.

>>21667445
>So we've been reading AI produced works for years, none the wiser and has it really had an impact?
Are you fucking high? The world has been going to shit with rapidity for the last 40 years. We're at global breaking point.

>>21667466
Due to AI writing text?
Or due to centralization and consolidation of finance, communication and governmental power?

>>21667473
Because clearly they are entirely 100% independent from one another. God damn small time businesses using AI to manipulate markets...

>>21667495
Sounds like a centralization problem to me.

My writing is far better than anything the AI puts out or ever could put out. The AI only poses a threat to unskilled writers.

>>21667521
Sounds like the AI problem can be solved with tariffs.

>>21667404
If you don't like it don't consume it. I barely use my smartphone. Some times I open Whatsapp and I have unread messages from 2 days ago.

>>21667619
and that fixed the problem, right? because you ignored it, the millions of others all did the same. they didn't copy tiktok dances, obsess over social media, or atomise, right?

you are RETARDED. do not reproduce. do not pass go.

>>21667633
Why should I care for others? I live my own life. You are the retard who can't adapt to technology.

>>21667701
>why should i care for others
you are the problem with modern society.

>>21667707
not him but i would say you are. you cant even follow your own convictions

>>21667707
>if you follow the society you are the problem with modern society
>if you don't follow the society you are the problem with modern society
Full-maxxing retardation

>>21667710
what is it like to be on a board about books and have so little capacity to fucking read?

>>21664120
Wouldn't be at all surprised if most recent genre fiction has been AI generated for a while now. Would explain a lot about the current state of literature actually.

>>21667718
Everyone is free to do whatever they want. I don't care if someone has "wrong" choices, I live my own life without judging others. On the other hand, you say that the life-style of using smartphones, doing tiktok dances, and using social media are the problem with modern society. But you also say that people who don't use these things and just live their life are also the problem with modern society.

>>21664111
>reading anything written after ~1950
It’s not like you don’t have options.

>>21667733
>everyone is free
WRONG AGAIN TARDO

>>21667744
Everyone has control over their own bodies and their own mind. If you don't like something in your life, you are free to change it. Unless you have some mental illness. It doesn't help that all your answers are "you are wrong" without actually answering anything.

>>21667745
Of course, we are only talking about middle-class and above.

>>21667745
lol, lmaoi
so this is the grade of npc that can't fathom how bad ai generated ''''art'''' is.

>>21667755
Your answers have less soul than one of an AI. If I'd had the same discussion with an AI it would actually answer to me instead of just saying "you are wrong lmaoi lol ratard"

>>21664123
> Books are supposed to be a window into human thought and soul.
Oh shut the fuck up. Most literature isn’t any better than the shit they put on TV, let alone “books” as a nebulous whole. If not now then in the next 10, 20 years you can generate your own boilerplate books and they’ll be as good as anything on the stands at airport bookshops. You’ll get story editors instead of authors and authors generating 90% of the story and putting their name on it.
You people are just delusional. It’s like painters trying to act like photography wasn’t the end of their business.
>but they still exist bro
Yeah furry artists and some art students most of which earn money as baristas. Once in a blue moon someone gets a commission.

>>21667762
>>21667766
i'd tell you weird ass npcs to kill yourselves, but i know your apathetic 'take me to the end times' hedonistic culture of degeneracy far outweighs the desire of the few to work towards something worth having. i'd rather kill myself than continue to deal with ''''people'''' like you.

>>21667774
>shows absolutely no caring for others
>says "you are the problem with modern society." as an answer to "why should i care for others? I live my own life"

>>21667800
solipsism is the name for your malcontent hedonism. your mentality is a plague and a disease. your apathy will bring with it dire consequences.

>>21664123
I think it's interesting to have a window in to computer "souls", though I'm sure most people will be trying to pass this shit off as their own creation unfortunately.

>>21667810
Finally, an answer of a normal human being. You clearly misunderstood me. I know that most of kids are addicted to social media, videogames, series, or any other technology advance. But, after all, each individual is responsible for their action and choices. I was once addicted too, but nowadays I barely use them.
I just don't judge other people or try-hard to change them, it's their responsability to fix their lifes and improve them. That's not solipsism.

Also, you are calling me apathic? You, someone who calls others "pathetic", "npc", "TARDO", "retarded" and call other people "the problem with fucking modern society"? I think you are reflecting your own problems on me.(Not the insults themselves, but the apathy)

>>21667838
fucking npc doesn't know what apathy is

>AI is taking over! Its over for you! You asked for this! Give up and give in! You're obsolete!
These same threads with these same posts have been spammed across multiple boards at the same time.

>>21667982

>>21667983
I wish the mods would do something already
it's extremely tiring having these parasites try to spread their cancer everywhere and then cry when they're met with resistance

>>21667560
I was thinking starting with media ownership rules that take size, reach and geography into account.

>>21668268
>I don't particularly see a difference between an AI generated work and one take by hand
You must not have eyes then

May you live in interesting times.

AI, gene editing, climate change, pandemics, economic crises, death of regional cultures. My man, you live in a world where there is so much to be said and yet you fear no will say anything?

>60s futurists: ai will take over the burden of menial labour so that human potential can flourish
>20s techbros: ai will crush human potential and churn out slop so you can focus on menial tasks
wowzers capitalism is so cool

>>21667745
>Everyone has control over their own bodies
This is fundamentally untrue, from every perspective. From the technical perspective, you literally are a biological automaton under the spell of your brain, you don't control it. From the social perspective, you are conformed to behaviors under the threat of injury or death from the state. That is what policing is. You understand the world as well as a child does.

>>21667838
>But, after all, each individual is responsible for their action and choices
No man is an island. Read more.

>>21664415
Brainlet take without any insights on "ai"

>>21664111
God just shut the fuck up