/lit/ - Literature

>>21564214
Because it‘d be cool if I could throw this gay take in a fire

All books published after 1800 must be burned for the good of man kind

define censorship and where you draw the line. is refusing a religious pastry? proprietary rights and trademark infringement? is it limited to the simple withholding of information? you cast a wide brush in a single stroke and do not return to add details.

>>21564221
this but books after 100 AD

>>21564214
The Nazis were barbarians. Anyone who supports not only book banning but also book burning is a brainless bastard.

>>21564214
>please explain why you hold such an idiotic position.
Because they burned jewish smut.

>>21564240
They also banned writers like Chesterton, Lewis, or Tolkien. And *almost* banned Jünger. They were authoritarian and petty like trannies.

>>21564226
The failure of refuting the words in a text, where one's only response is to set the page on fire, is pathetic and vile, which can apply to political opposition, moral philosophy, or even dishonest information, must be argued and refuted rather than censored

>>21564214
>For those who identify as said people, please explain why you hold such an idiotic position.
Just because it is written in a book does not automatically give it value. Nor should you allow books to circate that actively seek to undermine and harm what you love. Legitimate criticism is fine.

>>21564246
Sounds good to me

>>21564246
Authority is good and the reactionary fervor with which moral cowards cling to their philosemites’ fantasy proves they were right

>>21564248
>failed to refute Hirschfeld

>>21564264
Of course, you're a Nazi wannabe, you support their actions, however ridiculous. Same as the bootlicker below your post.

>>21564272
Im actually not a Nazi I just like burning books

>>21564287
Sure.

>>21564246
>They were authoritarian
What's the problem? Freedom of speech and (((democracy))) are used by grabblers to erode White Western culture and values.

Have you seen how fucking cold it is outside?

>>21564289
It's true though. I really am not a Nazi. I don't really know all they stand for but I don't think I agree.

>>21564293
No, but the Nazis in Russia certainly did.

>>21564298
Taking pictures of dead soldiers and selling it for profit and propagating it should be illegal

>>21564295
You don't know but you don't agree. Terrific.

>>21564295
I can help there.

On the subject of burning books, >>21564256 is the correct take.

>>21564303
It's to remember the losers forever. I don't see the issue.

>>21564312
Listen man. I love Jews. Okay? I love Jews. It's true. I don't know a lot about Nazis. But uh. They seem like bad guys. Anyone who kills that much of anyone is probably bad. And Jews are cool because they gave me a job. Also they are the only people who actually walk outside. Yeah they wear funny little hats but at least they still wear suits. Nazis. Im not an expert but they just decided to attack the world. I don't think that's good either. Because the world has cool stuff. France has Paris and pretty girls. Spain is where Cervantes is from. These are good things. Italy had Rome. They had cool statues. I like looking at Italian statues. These are all neat places. Nazis just seem like bad people. Killing is bad. Because when you kill someone they don't come back. And that makes me sad.

>>21564332
Lel

>>21564256
>Nor should you allow books to circate that actively seek to undermine and harm what you love.
What you love is too fragile and worthless if it can't survive a book.
>Legitimate criticism is fine.
They couldn't refute the books so they decided to destroy them. Book burning was retarded from any angle possible.

>>21564214
Quality over Quantity

>>21564214
They're edgy /pol/tards. If a Nazi raped their daughter they would chant in unison "based and redpilled"

>>21564348
Intellectual refutation is a trap. You can't debate evil. Sometimes you need to stop the debate and smite it. Read Perelandra

>>21564348
>Refuting pornography
What do you think burning them was supposed to symbolize?

>>21564348
>What you love is too fragile and worthless if it can't survive a book.
The knowledge found in your book isn't worth keeping if it can't survive a burning.

>>21564322
This is like saying
>hah democracy is for losers!
Immediately after the pelopponnesian war

>>21564413
The decline of modern civilization.

>>21564322
Dude it's a dead human. Are you really this overwhelmed by ideology

>>21564409
>Read Perelandra
Lewis was banned in Nazi Germany LMAO

>>21564431
I'm not shilling for Nazi Germany though

>>21564440
Yet you argue in their favor.

>>21564430
>Dude it's a human. Are you really this overwhelmed by ideology
Say that to the Nazis who killed this innocent nun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Stein
Who gives a shit about a some pixels on a screen.

>>21564428
Kek, exactly, why bother refuting stupidity? Just fuckin blow it away man, throw your trash in the bin where it belongs, only niggers litter.

>>21564454
>blaming an individual for the group

>>21564444
Checking them quads but damn man, the world is not dichotomous, grow some hair on your balls and come back later.

>>21564444
Im arguing in favor of book burning and censorship.

>>21564400
WITNESS ME

>>21564400
>>21564488
AAAAAAHHHHHH

>>21564454
>>21564454
All loss of human life is an inherent tragedy. The death of a villain is still tragic. It's sad when people die. Thinking otherwise means you've read too many books

>>21564483
>a dead invading soldier in a foreign country doesn't deserve to be photographed for... reasons
Nazi wannabe ethics are really something.
>who gives a shit about that nun who was killed unjustly
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE PHOTOS OF A DEAD INVADER IN YOUR COUNTRY, THAT'S EVIL!

>>21564494
When a villain has the death he deserves, it's a jolly good day on Earth.

>>21564506
That's just not true

>What progress we are making. In the Middle Ages they would have burned me. Now, they are content with burning my books.

>>21564518
For you.

>>21564501
I'm not a Nazi. I don't understand you sick people at all. I can't imagine celebrating the death of an enemy soldier. A DRAFTED enemy soldier at that. Insane.
Am I the insane one? Like when people celebrate the death of Russians in the modern engagement. Am I the crazy one for seeing the problem?
People are just so strange now. Cutting humans down isnt a good thing.

>>21564527
Most of the thread consists of Nazi wannabes or Nazi apologists. I'm so sorry you were mentally scarred by a historical photo of a dead invader but the hypocrisy of this board is impressive. You faggots act as if the Nazis were the victims. Always justifying their sickening actions and views. Soldiers celebrate their victories, that's not a secret. How are victories achieved? By crushing the enemy.

>>21564214
There's nothing wrong with bool burning per se. Most books are utter trash. There are probably no more than a few thousand books in all of human history worth saving.

>>21564570
That's not where they were coming from. They let a lot of trash exist as well. Only it was trash they agreed with.

>>21564483
>blaming an individual for the group
Perfectly in line with the Nazi view of the world. They rebelled against individualism in favor of some tribalistic notion.

>>21564501
you definitely masturbated over the shitty pics and videos of ukrainian (((soldiersd))) killing russian soldiers who had surrendered

>>21564590
>projecting this hard
I don't even give a shit about Russia and Ukraine. I think the West should have let them fight alone.

>>21564547
I don't have to be a Nazi to feel bad for dead people and I'm also not fighting against you posting that picture on this board. I'm talking about something different here.

>>21564219
fpbp

>>21564607
You don't understand human nature. Imagine you're going through a bloody shitstorm, you're starving, probably wounded. It's the worst day of your life. After eternal struggle, you and your fellow soldiers manage to crush the enemy. It's a relief, a happy victory. God has allowed to live a little more so you celebrate. There is nothing wrong in that.

>>21564246
the hiterlists were germanic pagans.
they were againist christianity as a whole.

Emanuel Hirsch a german lutheran protestant still reminded a loyal hitlerist and escaped de-nazifiction post ww2

Completely pointless these days to burn a few hundred mass produced books that probably exist digitally. Would never work as a concept, anyways read Fahrenheit 451 I guess.

>>21564620
I'll never see it that way. War doesn't really have high points

>>21564739
Ah, you're one of those pussies. Never mind.

>there should be total freedom of speech
>but they should also burn books I don’t like

It’s all so tiring anymore

>>21564758
Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences, sweetie. ;)

>>21564768
Ah, yes, the pesky evil books.

>>21564431
>LOL RUSSIAN AND BRITISH AUTHORS WERE BANNED IN NAZI GERMANY!!!!!!
Guess what? Nazi Germany was at war with the UK and Russia, of course they would ban their books

>>21564298
>LOOK AT THIS REGULAR DUDE THAT DIED IN A WAR FOR THE GUYS I DONT LIKE!!!!!!
Are you just mad at nazis? Go bACK to bunkertranny

>>21564768
Exactly. Niggas can rant about niggers, Jews and trannies all day on the internet but be prepared for people to distance themselves from you and think you are deranged

>>21564758
>there should be total freedom of speech
No, not for Jews

>>21564787
>conceivably it might be wrong to give children hormone therapy and massively alter their bodies through surgeries while almost criminalizing any non-positive discourse on the subject from educators k through university
>wow... that ain't it chief... be prepared for people to distance themselves from you and think you're deranged lol
You people really are insane

>>21564790
Especially for Jews, because they make Nazifags seethe.

>>21564805
>shilling for judeo-US global media monopoly to own le heckin nazis who are exclusively described through the lens of Hollywood depictions curated by Jews who rape children

>>21564790
Freedom of speech is an entirely nebulous concept, even Lenin admitted so. Freedom for who to do what?

>>21564816
Despite making up 2% of the population Jewish interests are defended by 100% of all media and education platforms that normies interact with. They even do awful things in medicine which go undiscussed. And of course if you do address their deeds you often wind up dead, which isn't freedom of speech either
>Uh sorry sweatie :^) freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from being murdered for accurately describing criminal undertakings of your zog government

>>21564810
I'm not a big fan of the Nazis, to be honest. They were quite evil, Hollywood depictions or otherwise. You can't come here and tell me that they were good people when I know what I've read.

>>21564830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPuTaP68Dw

https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ot/zizek.htm

Lenin is best remembered for his famous retort “Freedom yes, but for WHOM? To do WHAT?” — for him, in the case of the Mensheviks quoted above, their “freedom” to criticize the Bolshevik government effectively amounted to “freedom” to undermine the workers’ and peasants’ government on behalf of the counter-revolution ...

>>21564832
The nazis were not as evil as what's currently happening with who's currently in power.

>>21564838
>Lenin
Cool I don't care

>>21564287
Based fireman.

>>21564214
right and wrong is a clear cut objective thing and wrong things should be illegal. otherwise there's nothing midwits can't be convinced isn't good actually. good things should be promoted and in some cases mandatory and bad things should be illegal, simple as

>>21564843
But he is agreeing with your point though which you shrug off. One person's "freedom" is only freedom so much as it is at odds with the society's freedom to continue its own existence in a healthy manner.

>>21564843
Imagine then that the quote is from Adolf Hitler and he's talking about people pushing Allied propaganda to overthrow his government and they are calling it just "freedom of speech."

>>21564801
Name 1 child you know being forced into receiving hormone therapy. And can you point out to me where I said children should get hormone therapy. Methinks you are making a strawman. My view has always been that if you are a fringe ideologue, you are a deranged faggot. It doesn’t matter if you are pro-tranny or not, it is the fact that so much energy is invested in trannies. Sjw’s and /pol/ are opposite sides of the same coin. It is the coin I reject

>>21564869
To be honest this is something I see regularly in person so if you want to pretend it's all fringe internet stuff I just have to shrug and call you sheltered

>>21564313
>>21564256
>Nor should you allow books to circate that actively seek to undermine and harm what you love.
Basically agreeing with Karl Popper's paradox of tolerance but applied for what you consider intolerant. Popper was a Jew, it's funny to see pseudo Nazis agreeing with a Jew.

>>21564838
sounds like a bunch of political wordplay to justify crushing his political opponents under the bullshit claim of protecting a workers/peasant government (even tho neither were in control of the highest levels of the USSR state)

at the end of the day all authoritarians deserve to get shot

>>21564875
Okay. Well I’ll just have to shrug and think you spend too much time online and see ghosts where you want to. I guess we’ve run our course. It’s a shame what happened to this place. Just wanted to come here to discuss a book I’ve been reading but it’s all ideological threads now

>>21564878
You can't argue with evil though only destroy it. Arguing with evil is how you enable it. It's like a troll. There are many ideological and artistic trolls that have infected our minds and cultures. The idea that everything must be debated and that if you disagree with something you need to have a counter argument supported by such and such is insanity. We know what good and evil are. Just because we allowed the waters to get muddy by bring tricked into thinking intellectual arguments are all that matters doesn't change that. If I held you at gun point and just said ' be a good man' you would know exactly what to do wouldn't you? Instinctually.
>but philosophy says good and evil
Non
Sense.

>>21564838
>slajov zizek
tell me youre a pinko commie kike dick sucking nigger loving faggot, but without telling me youre a pinko commie kike dick sucking nigger loving faggot

>>21564892
But he's right, it does happen, with alarming frequency, and has only become normalized in the last 10 years, and will never be criticized by a public educator if they want to keep their jobs, nor a university professor.
>forced
Who said they had to be forced? The fact that it happens at all is terrible.

>>21564878
that's not an original concept whatsoever, bad things should not be allowed. there are a lot of bad things that are not only allowed but are promoted by every single authoritative outlet in the civilized world. it's hardly and epin lawgic trap to say "omg a jew said bad things should be banned once"

>>21564901
Hes a genius because he spits when he talks and is a delightful eccentric commie philosopher

For some reason neither he nor Peterson were able to grasp that its... and this may surprise a lot of you... the jews.

>>21564894
That's sort of what Popper says. Only that what he calls the "intolerant" is what you would call "evil." End of the day many of the bans were ridiculous because the content was ultimately inoffensive and far from "evil". Just the Nazis being fragile bitches.

>>21564892
It's the reality though. Like I don't factor in ant online wives tales. This is real stuff I've seen first hand.

>>21564931
I don't really care about Nazis I just think there are some things you can't debate but should still be destroyed and censored. Love of debate has destroyed civilizations

>>21564214
test

>>21564932
Sure thing, bub

>>21564332
Jews have been killing and raping little white girls for 8000 years

>>21564952
>trannies exist and are growing exponentially more numerous
>and its being advertised directly to children
>sure thing but

>>21564878
Do you really think like that? That because you support one position then you must be utterly against something tangibly against it based on subjective reasoning? That when you express agreement with any position you must utterly subsume every single associated point with it. That all positions are binary? Can you imagine a position where their is scalability of conviction or a gradient?

You stupid fuck.

>>21564934
So you agree that removing all those Nazi books from online stores like Amazon was for the good of civilization?

>>21564977
Addressing and acknowledging the Jewish problem is not exclusive to the nazis

>>21564986
Not the question.

Books make people dumber. Memorizing orally transmitted stories is the patrician way of acquiring knowledge.

>>21564990
Well I'm not that anon, but obviously banning the truth is not good for civilization.
>be poisoned
>recipe for antidote banned
>duuuuuhhh is this good? The poison makers made a thousand movies that says the antidote bad >:|

>>21564996
That anon was arguing that banning books without asking was okay because "debate destroys civilizations." The rules you apply are arbitrary and only chosen as long as they agree with Nazi views. That anon was arguing that he "did not care about the Nazis." Funny how you all say the same shit and suck Nazi cock at the moment of truth.

>>21565003
Theyre not arbitrary. Some ideas are bad and evil and some aren't.

>>21565048
Genocidal ideas: Good.
Literary ideas: Evil.
Got it.

>>21565054
Ya if the literary ideas are transitioning as many kids as possible or why it's good to eat the bugs

>>21565048
>my ideas good
>their ideas bad
Many such cases

>>21565066
Ah, yes, Tolkien, the writer banned in Nazi Germany for making kids into trannies.

You guys would rather pretend this isn't bait and argue in bad faith all day than talk about books.
This is truly a /pol/ colony.

>>21565075
No use in arguing with people like him. They want to argue their delusions. Don’t entertain them and let them shout into the void. Let their voice go unheard as it does in real life

>>21565077
Everyone should press this being implemented as much as possible

>>21564214
I agree that some books are mental poison and should be burned. However, a more effective way to achieve the same goal is exposure. Once you become familiar with some brand of mental poison and deconstruct it, you become stronger, sharper and better informed. Mental poison won't affect you anymore.

>>21565070
There's currently a lot of pro infant circumcision literature that should be banned
>>21565075
Well this isn't nazi Germany

>>21565101
>Well this isn't nazi Germany
So why are you in favor of publishing Nazi books?

>>21565108
Which ones?

>>21565080
So you do or don't support banning the literature behind promoting infant circumcision? After its clearly refuted which it has been.

>>21565148
The ones you said contained the "truth" and were banned from Amazon. >>21564996

>>21565153
Well which ones specifically. And I haven't read any of them so I don't know.

If they theorise on the Jewish problem then they definitely should not be banned. That doesn't make them nazi books. Do you want to ban Martin Luther and the like who had the same sentiment?

>>21565151
Books oninfant circumcision? Kek. Is there a section of this at your library?

>>21564214
sounds good to me

>>21565054
The holocaust isn't real, little boy. Also Hitler is not the aggressor of WWII

>>21565187
Do you not know what literature means? In, say, a medical context? And you didn't answer the question.

>>21565054
Who said anything about genocide? If it were up to me I'd just give everyone with Jewish heritage a blanket ban on publishing or teaching or practicing law. Maybe there could be some exemptions but if it's all or nothing they still need to be silenced.

>>21565199
>The holocaust isn't real,
It is. Denying it won't make it go away. At best you can question some of the numbers but not the overall existence.
>Also Hitler is not the aggressor of WWII
He was. He was invading European countries. He genocided Poles as well.

>>21565204
I don’t give af about circumcision one way or another. I just find it amusing you care so much about it. Without reading the rest of the thread I bet you’ll steer into muh joos territory if you haven’t already

>>21565212
>>21565054
Oh and of course they can't be in government or do any banking. Just common sense things that would improve life for everyone very rapidly.

>>21565216
>I dont give af about circumcision one way or another
That's because you're evil and stupid. And most likely Jewish. So of course you won't denounce the obviously psychopathically evil practice.

>>21565213
>>21565216
No reason to argue with them. They aren’t in good faith. Do you really see them conceding any ground? They are fringe ideologues. Hopeless cases. Let them be and don’t humor them

>>21565221
>muh joos!!

>>21565223
How is wanting to immediately stop the practice of infant circumcision not being in good faith? How is it a fringe ideology?

>>21565162
If you haven't even read them then why do you presuppose that a Nazi book contains the truth? You said they contained the truth and banning them was not good for civilization. You called Nazi books (that you haven't even read, allegedly) an "antidote."

A book that is focused on spouting Nazi ideology, same talking points, same views, same aesthetics even, is not the same as a book that has a sentence or paragraph that is viewed as anti-semitic. You're trying to hide your genocidal ideologies behind obviously less bad books only because they share something that is not even proportional.

>>21565228
Yes that's right. Shockingly Jews are behind circumcision. And really it should be shocking. It's an exceptionally evil thing to do to a newborn without its consent.

>>21565229
I remember when /lit/ used to have standards. Take your penis obsession elsewhere. I’m done here

>>21564290
freedom of speech and democracy are white western values, show me any other civilization retarded enough to try to apply them, only white boys goated with the sauce would and it sucks

>>21565233
I'm not genocidal.
>why do you presuppose
Because any story counter to major mainstream and controlled opposition pro Jewish monopolies on media, education, law, and finance contains more truth than all the stories attempting to push it down, and it's the last thing that should be banned if the goal is a better world. Whatever the nazis did or didn't do good or bad I don't know. But I do know that Hitlers opinion on the Jewish problem was not exclusive to himself.

>>21565235
>doesn't want newborn babies to be mutilated, anywhere
>lol u obsessed with baby dicks u gay much?
Many such posters. All very Jewish.

>uuuuh sweetie you have to give space for my evil views to flouris-ACK

>>21565248
Circumcision is a profit-driven procedure. From what I've heard, it's the default option in American hospitals when a baby is born. You actually have to tell them not to circumcise your son. It's there for default because they can charge you more for it. If you want to eliminate such practice you have to face the real players, the capitalist hospital owners. Good luck uniting Americans against corporations, they are cucked bootlickers. Banning some obscure circumcision literature won't change shit. Fragile bitches ban irrelevant shit, real men ACT.

>>21565272
Okay so you don't think banning the Jewish literature promoting circumcision to med students and the public will work. But you do hate circumcision being performed on newborns right? (Please answer this question specifically)

If the answer to above was yes, then do you support banning the literature that promotes the practice even if you don't think it will ultimately solve the problem? Which you do agree and will say in writing is a problem right?

So hard to get a simple yes or no on mutilating babies out of you guys

>>21565245
>I'm not genocidal.
And that do you think is the outcome of your ideology? What do you think is the ultimate consequence of hating the Jews this deep?

>>21565284
Hopefully it'll be banning anyone with Jewish heritage from publishing, teaching, financing, governing, or educating. Barring some special exemptions.

>>21565284
>>21565286
And honestly ideally history classes in the future will cover this period enough with all the evidence we're providing to never let such ideas take root ever again. There's just so much information out there on how evil and fucked up it all is.

>>21565281
I, for one, am for the mutilation of babies

>>21565281
I think it's a choice an adult man should make over his own body but I don't think the literature should be banned. The hospitals have to be called out and pressed and an anti-circumcision movement should take place.

>>21565293
You and a whole lot of people

>>21565306
I just don’t like foreskin, simple as

>>21565286
And you seriously believe this can work in a country that brands itself as "the land of the free"?

>>21565305
I am referring only to circumcisions performed on children and newborns. Whether an 18 year old wants to be circumcised is up to them.
>but I don't think the pro infant mutilation literature should be banned
Why not? It's entirely inaccurate and presents a false truth to derive an evil recommendation which is then promoted to the doctors and med students you want to be called out. I wouldn't mind seeing the cutters in jail but what I really want is the entire practice stamped out. Do you or do you not want it entirely stamped out (below the age of 18)?

>>21565281
>So hard to get a simple yes or no on mutilating babies out of you guys

Yes

>>21565317
Newborns are barely humans. It is up to the mother, and father to a lesser extent

>>21565312
I know it would definitely work
>land of the free
I dont care about slogans. Let everything heal for a bit. You can't give one group of people the freedom to destroy everything then balk when it's rescinded.

>>21564214
>For those who identify as said people, please explain why you hold such an idiotic position.
Read Plato's Phaedrus and Laws.

>>21565323
No it isn't. It's not up to anyone but the individual when they come of age. You don't have the right to sever their limbs either, and it's for the same reason there's absolutely no defense for the practice.

>>21565327
Babies can’t consent so it’s up to the mother, and the father if he is in the picture

>>21565331
They cant consent no matter what the mother or father say, you complete moron.

>>21565332
So take the foreskin off, it’s useless. You want the umbilical cord left too?

>divides some Jews
lol, these wacky people

>>21565317
I'm against the banning of books in principle. I'm not some retarded /pol/tard who glorifies the banning of books by the Nazis like most people ITT, nor am I a tranny who wants to rabidly cancel all the people who disagree with his worldview. I'm just a normal guy. In my country, there is no such thing as circumcision by default, so I never considered the issue but I'm not in favor of it on kids unless it's due to some medical issues.

>>21565339
Okay and are you in favour of taking steps to completely eradicate the practice on newborns? Say, by banning the promotional literature and spokespersons campaigning for the practice? We currently live in a world where the reverse of that is what happens, and attempts to ban it are shut down.

>>21565346
You are a weird guy. The fixation on circumcision is weird and creepy

>>21565350
No it isn't. It's still being performed every single day, and everyone should feel the exact same way I do about that. If they dont there's something seriously wrong with them.

Since the practice is Jewish it's also useful rhetorically to show people there's one uncrossable moral line which millions of Jews will screech about when you try to stop them from repeatedly crossing it; and they will use as much of their influence as possible in order to perform it on as many babies as possible, AND they prove quite a bit of influence aa detailed in the image here
>>21565204

>>21565357
This is a bot programmed to post about circumcision, isn’t it?

>>21565358
I'm not but you might be

So far all you hutthurt kikes are batting 0 on strongly condemning the practice

Which means there's something very obviously and seriously wrong with you

>>21564214
If someone was right then they wouldn’t need to ban different opinions. That’s all I need to know

just coming in here from the first page since I saw the debate on circumcision
it should be illegal, at least for anyone under like 13, and discouraged heavily for anyone without a legitimate religious reason
t. amerigoblin whose parents approved of the snip for zero good reason before I ever had the opportunity to say no
>inb4 WHY DO YOU CARE
because it's my dick and I should have gotten a choice on whether or not it was to be mutilated. no child should go through an unnecessary cosmetic procedure before they can even comprehend the consequences
also I heard the average cutting makes a peepee about half an inch shorter but I don't remember where I heard that

>>21565363
That's extremely naive

>>21565346
If you want to be successful with whatever cause you have to rebrand it for the general population. You're coming at the issue with (I assume) some kind of alt-right angle. "It's bad because the Jews do it, therefore, it should be banned." And I think that is a mistake. You have to rebrand it as a form of corruption happening in the hospitals and as violation of bodily autonomy. When you create a narrative of struggle, you are more likely to unite the population towards a single cause. Once you have the necessary momentum, you can then think about banning this and that (which I disagree with but whatever). Love unites, hate divides. It's a cliché but it has its uses.

>>21565362
I’m fairly rich, have a prominent job, great love life, supportive family, a bunch of fun hobbies, a top floor apartment in a good section of the city, the list goes on and on. Not much is wrong with me. I bet it really chaps your ass cheeks that I’m Jewish too. Not all can I have a good of a life as I, I guess. I try to feel for others and empathize. It could be worse. I could be on a Tibetan bobsledding image board seething and ranting about Jews and dicks. But I’m not. Lucky me

>>21565371
>It's bad because the Jews do it, therefore, it should be banned."
Can you think of a reason I might think it's bad over than "because Jews do it"?

>>21565376
>I could be on a Tibetan bobsledding image board seething and ranting about Jews and dicks. But I’m not. Lucky me
Actually you are.

>>21565380
You read over the part about seething about Jews and dicks I guess. It happens

>>21565383
That's what you're posting about. You're just pro circumcision.

>>21565370
Not an argument

>>21565389
^ this anon isn't capable of condemning infant circumcision

>>21565386
I am ambivalent on it. If anything I am against people who obsess, one way or another, over weird things like that. What books have you read lately? Do you even read? Do you just talk about scary Jews and penii? Kek

>>21565391
Not an argument

>>21565377
Because you are a victim? Because your son is a victim? I don't know, mate.

>>21565395
Noone in my family is a victim of what we're discussing.
>>21565394
>I am ambivalent about it
It's a for or against.

>THE JEWS!!
>THE JEWS!!
>THE JEWS DID THIS TO YOU!!

>>21565395
But you don't know a reason why I might be against infant circumcision? You can't think of even a single reason someone might have to oppose the practice? Are you serious?

>>21565400
>Noone in my family is a victim of what we're discussing.
alright

>>21565400
>It's a for or against.
Nope. I literally couldn’t care less. Just think your fixation is bizarre

>>21565213
>>21565223
>Denying it won't make it go away. At best you can question some of the numbers but not the overall existence.
Evidence for the holocaust was questionable at best which can only be linked to Himmler speeches but not directly to the NSDAP with tenuous physical evidence. Jews were being deported more than anything else, which is why so many of them survived. There were even requests for Churchill to open British Palestine so they could all go there.
>He genocided Poles as well.
Asckhwually, he was not genociding Poles. In fact it was the other way around. Polish nationalists were ceding land from Germany in the 1920s and were even committing atrocities against the German minority in Danzig.
>Hitler wanted to kill le poles!1
Germany & Poland had signed a non-aggression pact that Poland had nullified after creating a pact with Western powers against Germany, which implicitly violated the agreement. Hitler thus declared it null. Poland had begun drafting war plans against Germany (before Germany), and begged France/UK to start a war with them. Poland then fully mobilized their army, and many higher ups were starting to think they should launch an invasion against Germany now while the agreements with the Western powers were still fresh.
>He was invading European countries.
First and foremost, please read this short <100 page book "What the World Rejected: Hitler's Peace Offers 1933-1940"
archive org/ details / wtwrh
>Rhineland
To begin with, that was an illegal occupation. Germany reoccupied it after German intelligence learning of a Frnace-Soviet pact and a plan to invade Germany
>Anchcluss
It was a referendum, Austria was collapsing and the people voted overwhelmingly to join Germany, as they are one people.
>Sudetenland
Munich agreement
>whole of Czechoslovakia
False, only the Czech part, and that was after the country was undergoing huge instability (in part yes because of the precedent set by the Munich agreement), and the nation was falling apart among ethnic lines. President Hacha then asked for Germany to become their protectorate. Hitler agreed, and Hacha was appointed president of this region the next day. Czechia remained virtually untouched during the war.
>Hitler was a cruel bloodthirsty maniac
If Hitler was so cruel and uncaring, as is traditionally taught, then why did he love animals so much and why did they love him?

No matter how much literature you read it won't change the fact you're any more detached from reality than your average bluepilled NPC. read a History book for once

>>21565402
violation of bodily autonomy? permanent scarring/mutilation? already mentioned the first one in my other post.

>>21565405
Well if you can't understand why it's wrong to mutilate newborns it doesn't really matter what you think about anything else.

>>21565408
There you go. So I'm opposed to it because of what you're saying. And I am opposed to the literature which promotes it as a legitimate medical practice, the source of which is Jewish. I'm also opposed to every doctor who ever performed the procedure and any entity that profited through it. They should all be banned.

>>21565408
>>21565409
You gonna cry about it? Boo hoo. Kek at this sperg

>>21565413
People should be crying about it. It's a terrible thing.

>>21565407
>le hitler was peaceful!!!!!!!!!
> „We shall only talk of peace when we have won the war. The Jewish capitalist world will not survive the twentieth century.“
Adolf Hitler, 1939

>>21565419
If only he had won the war if that were his goal

>>21565389
What was your argument to begin with? Truth wins because it... just does, ok?

>>21565419
>Hitler's "war" i.e. his kulturkampf against the jews
>deports them, wins
>Churchill admits that hitler was right, that there were elite jews left and right of europe https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
>Churchill, once again, even admits this that the British blank check of support for Poland was English warmongering

>As early as November 24, 1932, Churchill had declared: "If the British government really wishes to promote peace, then it should take the initiative and re-open the issues of Danzig and the Corridor while the victorious powers are as yet superior. If these matters are not resolved, there can be no hope for a lasting peace!"

Face it little BOY, Hitler was correct and did nothing wrong. The diplomacy has been written down in record for us to read proving that he was not the aggressor.

>>21565407
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_crimes_against_the_Polish_nation

>>21565427
>n-no when hitler talks about war he doesn’t mean the war
Cope levels off the chart

>>21565431
>NOOO they were killing human beanerinos!!1
>ignoring the fact those were mostly partisans
>also ignoring the fact that poles actively lied about polish poppulation losses, taking into account ethnic german and ethnic jews but with polish nationality into account https://codoh.com/library/document/polish-population-losses-during-world-war-two/en/

>"The fact is that the only real offer of security which Poland received in 1938 and 1939 emanated from Hitler. He offered to guarantee the boundaries laid down in the Versailles Treaty against every other country. Even the Weimar Republic had not for a moment taken this into consideration. Whatever one may think of Hitler’s government or foreign policy, no doubt exists on this point; his proposals to Poland in 1938/39 were reasonable and just and the most moderate of all which he made during the six years of his efforts to revise the Versailles Treaty by peaceful means." - Professor Harry Elmer Barnes, prominent American historian.

>>"Poland’s decision of August 30, 1939 that was the basis for general mobilization marked a turning point in the history of Europe. It forced Hitler to wage war at a time when he hoped to gain further unbloody victories." - Kazimierz Sosnkowski, Polish General and Government-in-Exile’s commander-in-chief, August 31, 1943.

>>"Of all the Germans, Believe it or not, Hitler is the most moderate as far as Danzig and the Corridor are concerned." - Sir, Neville Henderson, British Ambassador to Berlin, 16th August, 1939.

>BUT GERMANY STARTED THE WAR BY FALSE FLAGGING GLEIWITZ
The false flag narrative of the attack on the radio station at Gleiwitz was based on the testimony of just ONE man, Alfred Naujocks. More information here:
https://carolynyeager.net/gleiwitz-%E2%80%9Cfalse-flag%E2%80%9D-incident-pure-fiction

When these quotes along with the information above is taken into account... It really looks like Poland started WW2.

>>21565433
>the international jew isn't real, h-heh..
>there was not jewish agency that caused germany to lose a war in a previous event take your me-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

>>21565416
Boo hoo. Does baby want her bottle?Grow some hair on your chest and toughen up. Don’t be a slack jawed pussy. You sound like a Benjy Compson retard because your parents snipped your dick. Trannies like you are the reason this board is unusable

why did he do it? why did he kill so many innocents?

>>21565446
They didn't snip my dick. But people wouldn't be wrong to react very emotionally when they realize what the procedure really was and why they were purposefully lied to about it in order to encourage its happening.

>>21565448
>angery about art school

>>21565412
Luckily, fewer and fewer people believe in it.

>>21565454
Yes that's why I think it could easily be banned. That pol still seems incredible to me, 30% of 18-29?

this thread is exactly why conservatards cannot into art

>>21565459
Why was the vast majority of truly great art created a very long time ago despite our massive population and technology advances?

>>21565449
Why do you care so much? If you have a kid (doubtful), don’t get him circumcised. Simple as. Being as passionate as you are about it is not a good look. Your parents have tried to get you to go to a therapist before, haven’t they? You cry over baby shit

>>21565461
They were progressive for their time. Great art is innovative and forward looking

>>21565461
The belief in God. Art was transcendentalist and aimed for divinity. Now it's political and aims to subvert.

>>21565466
That makes sense
>>21565462
>why do uuuuu care
Because it's wrong and evil and harms millions of people chud

>>21565457
Younger people tend to be into topics such as bodily autonomy and all that. I think there is a huge chance it will cease to exist in the future. It's a barbaric procedure.

>>21565468
You’re the evil one, bub. The day of the rope is coming for you one day and you’ll be paraded naked through the streets full of people cheering and throwing rotten fruit.

>>21565335
>useless
nice job drinking the kike coolaid
it's meant to keep the glans safe

>>21564246
Good job making /pol/tards seethe

Book burning is just a ritual denunciation. As long as it’s just mass-produced garbage going into the fire, who cares there’s other copies. That specific act is just tainted by Nazism but it’s not like a bunch of other 20th century states didn’t also have cultural revolutions that were basically equivalent. As for censorship, most or all people want things they deeply disagree with to be censored or sanitized in some way. Everyone saying “we need to put this in context”, “separate the artist from the art”, “at the time it was normal to think things like this”, “we need to get this away from the children” is practicing censorship on some level. This is not surprisingly most egregious with right-wing topics and perspectives where it’s basically a foregone conclusion that you will be studying the topic from an adversarial perspective, that is, with safety gloves on. Ironically this treatment has led to people taking the ideas more seriously or as items of suppressed truth

>>21564239
Brainless knee jerk reaction to muh nazis - who is really the barbaric one here?

>>21566883
>who is really the barbaric one here?
Objectively the Nazis. I haven't genocided people, partake in crimes against humanity, or burned books.

>>21566883
the nazis

>>21565454
>tfw got circumsized literally for health reasons

guess god just likes me :)

>>21564768
Then you don't have freedom. Freedom is the absence of obstacles, whichever form they might have.
Don't repeat this retarded take. Just say you don't believe in freedom of speech. That is actually an honest opinion and should be completely acceptable.

>>21564290
>can't name a single culture or value instrinsic to being white
if that's the case why are there some many differences between the cultures of white europeans from different countries? by your logic they'd all be the same country

>>21564214
It’s a waste of effort to care about the bad opinions here. The culture of this broader website makes retards inevitable. All you can do is engage with the minority of those making good faith discussion.

>>21564332
God bless you and your earnest post anon

>>21568991
Theyre all more similar to each other than any of them are to a country in Asia, all of which are more similar to each other than any of them are to a country in Africa. Not too difficult to observe I don't think.

>>21566883
This is what a brain pickled in porn and 4chan memes think.

>>21564214
The book burnings? They were cold, it was freezing outside. The Jews were there in the shadows, rubbing their hands to keep warm, and offered to sell the loan students firewood, with 50% interest. The brave Nazis showed up and gathered all the books they could find to create a bonfire that, with it's warmth, saved the students from freezing to death. "Indeed, many have likened it to a modern burning of the Library of Alexandria, but ask yourselves. What's more important? Books, or human lives?" Said Adolf Hitler. Everybody stood up and clapped. Adolf Hitler lifted his hands to warm himself over the salvific flames and, seeing him as their savior, so did everybody else. To this day the 'hand of life' is slandered as 'the roman salute.' Just like "Let's go Brandon," 'sieg heil' is in fact 'keep warm.'

>>21564246
>like
You mean a very specific set of living writers who wrote political works against Nazism.

>>21564527
I agree that it is a tragedy in either case but to call people strange due to it is an error I should think. Celebrating the casting down of a perceived enemy is a very human thing to do and has been done throughout time. Modern people just see and make enemies of strangers across the planet now using the internet.

>>21564214
Confusius kept only a few books in existence to be studied by future scholars and burned the rest.
Only the good should be allowed to exist.

>>21570328
The mind of the Chinese people has of course flourished.

>>21570393
Unfortunately after becoming open-minded and allowing European ideas into Chinese society against the best Confucian wisdom, it did proceed to collapse into the cesspit of Maoism.

>>21565407
Very based anon. This thread is full of jidf agents arguing in bad faith. Nice to see someone with some sense.

>>21570159
>a very specific set of living writers who wrote political works against Nazism.
lol, sure, like russeau, adam smith, mark twain, thomas paine...

>>21564781
the bans and burnings happened before the war, retard

This thread stinks of gay jewish psy ops

take your hrt pills and castrate yourselfs

>>21565407
>If Hitler was so cruel and uncaring, as is traditionally taught, then why did he love animals so much and why did they love him?

lol, lmao even, imagine being so brainlet

>>21570660
You hit the nail on the head