/lit/ - Literature

>>21559152
How about Facebook? What’s the message in that medium? It seems to be first: your life exists to be displayed to other people, and you should be aiming every day to show your friends edited highlights of your life. Second: what matters is whether people immediately like these edited and carefully selected highlights that you spend your life crafting. Third: somebody is your “friend” if you regularly look at their edited highlight reels, and they look at yours—this is what friendship means.

How about Instagram? First: what matters is how you look on the outside. Second: what matters is how you look on the outside. Third: what matters is how you look on the outside. Fourth: what matters is whether people like how you look on the outside. (I don’t mean this glibly or sarcastically; that really is the message the site offers.)

I realized one of the key reasons why social media makes me feel so out of joint with the world, and with myself. I think all of these ideas—the messages implicit in these mediums—are wrong. Let’s think about Twitter. In fact, the world is complex. To reflect that honestly, you usually need to focus on one thing for a significant amount of time, and you need space to speak at length. Very few things worth saying can be explained in 280 characters. If your response to an idea is immediate, unless you have built up years of expertise on the broader topic, it’s most likely going to be shallow and uninteresting. Whether people immediately agree with you is no marker of whether what you are saying is true or right—you have to think for yourself. Reality can only be understood sensibly by adopting the opposite messages to Twitter. The world is complex and requires steady focus to be understood; it needs to be thought about and comprehended slowly; and most important truths will be unpopular when they are first articulated. I realized that the times in my own life when I’ve been most successful on Twitter—in terms of followers and retweets—are the times when I have been least useful as a human being: when I’ve been attention-deprived, simplistic, vituperative. Of course there are occasional nuggets of insight on the site—but if this becomes your dominant mode of absorbing information, I believe the quality of your thinking will rapidly degrade.

>>21559160
The same goes for Instagram. I like looking at pretty people, like everyone else. But to think that life is primarily about these surfaces—getting approval for your six-pack or how you look in a bikini—is a recipe for unhappiness. And the same goes for a lot of how we interact on Facebook too. It’s not friendship to pore jealously over another person’s photos and boasts and complaints, and to expect them to do the same for you. In fact, that’s pretty much the opposite of friendship. Being friends is about looking into each other’s eyes, doing things together in the world, an endless exchange of gut laughs and bear hugs, joy and grief and dancing. These are all the things Facebook will often drain from you by dominating your time with hollow parodies of friendship.

After thinking all this, I would return to the printed books I was piling up against the wall of my beach house. What, I wondered, is the message buried in the medium of the printed book? Before the words convey their specific meaning, the medium of the book tells us several things. Firstly, life is complex, and if you want to understand it, you have to set aside a fair bit of time to think deeply about it. You need to slow down. Secondly, there is a value in leaving behind your other concerns and narrowing down your attention to one thing, sentence after sentence, page after page. Thirdly, it is worth thinking deeply about how other people live and how their minds work. They have complex inner lives just like you.

I realized that I agree with the messages in the medium of the book. I think they are true. I think they encourage the best parts of human nature—that a life with lots of episodes of deep focus is a good life. It is why reading books nourishes me. And I don’t agree with the messages in the medium of social media. I think they primarily feed the uglier and shallower parts of my nature. It is why spending time on these sites—even when, by the rules of the game, I am doing well, gaining likes and followers—leaves me feeling drained and unhappy. I like the person I become when I read a lot of books. I dislike the person I become when I spend a lot of time on social media."

I could answer that question in about 10k words with as much factual accuracy and clarity as some academic longform fuckwit does in his entire 200+ page book, AND provide a reasonable answer as to how to reverse it
>oh no the screens making us dumb
>better meditate and install an extension to limit my screentime

>>21559165

Why are you so condescending and assumptious?

>>21559165
Read "The Four Agreements"

Good post.
I think what he says applies far more broadly than your post indicates. It applies to who and where the message is delievered.
Propagandists have known this for a long time though. It's not quite a new idea.

The best example is Trump. Trump saying something makes it not true. He's the most extreme iteration of the medium being the message there ever has been.

>>21559152
You really needed a book to tell you this?

>>21559190
nonfiction is an industry and most of these single issue books are a massive waste of your time. Dude probably wrote 10 chapters most of which are a literature and science review sprinkled with personal anecdotes followed by a call to action which is exactly what I suggested. Meditate, that's all they've got man. Saved you 5 hours and 30 bux, most nofiction self help is filler

so basically its mcluhan cliff notes and theyre passing it off as their own work kek

>>21559602
Believe it or not your advice is trite and no one listens.
Do people, who have all heard, "you need to eat right" then eat right?
No.
Why? Because they have no understanding. It's trite and ineffective.
You are a brainlet.

However, I will give you one point that it CAN be a waste of time.
I advise people to NEVER finish a non fiction book.
If the author has gone on a couple hundreds pages, and there are 150 left, they've either gotten to the point already, or there isn't one.
Diminishing returns sets in and accelerates after the first quarter of all books.
I've read a shit ton and know.
NEVER FINISH A BOOK.

>>21559533
>>21559602
>>21559616
Yet, here you are. Didn't listen the first time so it needs to be said again.

Go outside, touch some grass, and form some meaningful connections then you wouldn't be so smug.

>>21559632
>>21559632
>Didn't listen the first time so it needs to be said again.
Same could be said for the faggot plagiarizer in the OP, who didn't even get the title right.
It's actually called "The Medium is the Massage".

classic self-righteous /lit/ shitting on books they haven't read

>>21559616
If only it was just that. They are dumbing down his ideas. Like a youtuber explaining Nietzsche or a criminologist explaining Dostoievski.

>>21559152
>the medium is the message
Think about the cave.

>>21559629
No wonder you copypasted the OP. You can not write a coherent sentence and are as shallow as the books you are read.

>>21559647
Suffers from word salad nonsense.

This book actually puts things into a clearer perspective by referencing newer technologies, and includes dialogues with actual scientists, thus making it more useful.

>>21559669
>includes dialogues with actual scientists, thus making it more useful

>>21559629
>Do people, who have all heard, "you need to eat right" then eat right?
You are a child looking for an excuse to procrastinate. Life is simpler than it ever was and yet you people suffer because you consider your lack of self control a virtue and there is nothing easier than drawning in self pity.

>>21559682
Wow, you made it green. Great!

>>21559667
I'm not OP retard.
And I posted all the books iit >>21559221
I was being controversial as a technique for response, which worked.
I read very deep works usually, own a bookstore. and read over 100 pages this morning of a book called The People of Illinois (1910) and the copy of the book was actually from 1910.

Care to address my point of diminishing returns on non fiction books?

If you have limited time, like everyone does, why would you want to waste reading the last 100 pages of someone to get that last 1-2% of their message...when you could move on and immediately gain a lot from someone new on a different subject or from a different perspective?
I'd like your opinion if you are capable of having one.

>>21559685
lmao
Where do you people get off with yourselves? You know nothing about me.
See here >>21559697

Procrastinate? From what? My business? My kids? My wife?
I'm extremely successful by an measure.

Entertainment technology is a net negative for mankind. The hedonic treadmill guarantees that any possible happiness gain is absorbed by the body thanks to homeostasis, but the long-term impacts of TV and cinema and video games remain.

We're basically just as happy as 200 years ago, but now we have attention span problems, propaganda, self-esteem issues, etc.
Media theorists like McLuhan, Postman, Ellul, et. al. are honestly far too optimistic. Most new forms of media turn us into worse people.

>>21559685
Seriously, an imagination like this is bordering on mental illness.

Why is this board so against modern science and just masturbates over outdated philosophy?

>>21559629
can't just read "meditation grows your grey matter, 30 mins a day" so instead has to read a 200 page book that will ultimately cumulate in the exact message while bloating you with a bunch of irrelevant trivia.

>>21559697
was largely in agreement until I realized you're promoting fiction as the alternative. Even less efficient than nonfiction. Layman nonfiction has a huge problem with bloat, formulaic style, and in the more exotic cases needless technical jargon. Very little is retained, very little of it is functional, and most books on the subject could be condensed to a slim 30-50 pages. Pseudbait is the other issue but that's another story

>>21559731
most of the board are undergrads or postgrads in the humanities. The other contingent are polfags who ship obsolete garbage from the 1930's and a few obscure wite powa books after that which are 100% ideology. I agree it is a complete waste of time and the reccs/reading lists on this board are unbelievably pretentious

>>21559718
Lazy post

>>21559743
>until I realized you're promoting fiction as the alternative
lmao
No I wasn't and made no indication that I was.
Jesus Christ.

Here's a thought...MAYBE people prefer to have some proof or evidence rather than listening, without question, to an obviously unhinged faggot online.
You read a book on meditation didn't you?
You read more than "mediation grows grey matter"...DIDN'T YOU?
Or did you summon that knowledge from the ether?
Or, more likely, did someone read a fucking bunch and study a lot and figure it out for your dumbass?
We know the answer.
kys

>>21559772
How so?
(He won't reply to this.)

>>21559773
oh I see, an idiot

>>21559718
you might be onto something but it's negated by the tranime avatar
I guess the medium is the message after all

>>21559761
and what would you have us read shitbrick? your fuckin my little pony coloring book?
>wite powa
reddit is a six letter word and a place you should return

>>21559773
keked
good one

>>21559778
>can't admit he read a book to learn that and it was longer than a sentence.
Fuck it must suck to be that mentally weak.
I'm even giving you credit for being able to read and you won't take it.

>>21559793
I don't have time for yet another bloatware nonfiction title on a topic about an hour of reading web articles would get me more up to date on in any case. Too many hours of doing that suckers game

>>21559743
Why read books at all? You should already know everything a person thinks before reading any book. If you don't know, then you're a brainlet who doesn't think.

>>21559779
'nime website though

>>21559802
Sounds like a you problem.

>>21559802
>an hour
kek
Moving the goal posts quite a bit now, aren't we.
The book could be mostly read in an hour. Especially using my above strategy of not finishing it once the diminishing returns set in.

>>21559784
depends on the topic. I have posted recc lists before consisting of up to date nonfics erroring on the side of brevity

>Dude, everything was said by The Greeks and The Buddha. There's no need to read anything from the last 2000 years.

t. this board

>>21559811
I think your brain has been wired to read wikipedia pages only.

>>21559803
sometimes they're comprehensive looks at a topic written by a subject matter expert or contain information you'll not easily find on the web. Meme "is the internet bad for you?" books on the other hand are probably not in that category. People filter information every day and the most efficient straining of it yields the prize. In most cases a nonfic book has only a handful of relevant chapters you need to read and a bunch of bloat

>>21559824
>wikipedia
cringe

You read books for PERSPECTIVE.

Everyone has a slightly different PERSPECTIVE on things which gives you a deeper UNDERSTANDING of things.

It's okay if something was said before.

Reading something you've heard before is GOOD because REPETITION is how you LEARN.

The more time you spend thinking about a certain IDEA the more it STICKS in your HEAD.

More time spent READING about something makes it more VIVID and CLEAR.

>>21559816
>this anonymous website and its procedures are too complex for my understanding therefore i must simplify it and parody it and my brain may digest it.
Okay, zoom zoom.

>>21559839
Based capitalizer.
>PERSPECTIVE
>PERSPECTIVE
>UNDERSTANDING
>GOOD
>REPETITION
>LEARN
>IDEA
>STICKS
>HEAD
>READING
>VIVID
>CLEAR
Got it.

>>21559839
I'm glad you are teaching yourself how to read but don't expect to be taken seriously for spouting common knowledge you weren't aware of until you articulated it as some sort divine revelation.

>>21559860
The world doesn't revolve around you.
There are many people here who would appreciate the OP.

>>21559840
Okay, my supernova girl.

Some people just like to argue so that they can hear themselves talk.

>>21559152
I'm not gonna read all that but McLuhan's whole thing was we were transitioning away from a written to oral civilization. He didn't defend literacy and just assumed the modern "global village", mispresented as some hippie concept, was a revived form of primitivism and would be extremely violent. The medium is becoming AI and the message is you're less intelligent, deal with it.

>>21559892
>AI being real
>using buzzwords
>telling others they are less intelligent
lmao

>>21559866
And then what?

>>21559886
Quote the posts you have in mind. Don't be a faggot even if you are used to it.

>>21559925
You have no idea you're not being gaslight right now by some PHP script, maybe you're marginally more intelligent than the increasingly aliterate public but in a decade lets see

>>21559953
I can't be gaslit. I'm a schizo and don't care.
And at least least you admitted it was a PHP script and not "AI".
Thank you mr. bot or person or wh(at)oever.

Don't give the mentally ill direct attention.

How ironic

How iconic

>>21559963
>>21560009

>>21559927
They stop coming here and read more books.

>>21559892
AI isn't a medium yet, social media is the current paradigm. your conclusion also doesnt follow from your premise.
youre a spudhead. rivulets of gravy run around the lobes of mashed potato packed into your skull

>>21559961
what about oblique attention? can I give them oblique attention?

>>21560025
Don't you see the contradiction?

>>21559152
This was a great read anon, but you forgot the original medium: conversation. And play.

>>21560093
Literally only came here for one of the few times in the past year to make this thread.

And the responses are another reminder why it's not worth coming here and more worth it to continue reading books instead.

>>21560112
whats your disc0rd handle ill add u

>>21560047
inane gibberish amongst idiots isn't new... social media is just an extension of former tech, boomers already had CB radio, tabloid entertainment, etc... it isn't a "paradigm shift" qualitatively... that's going to be dangerous
FINNEGANS WAKE

>>21560112
>muh /lit/ doesn't read waaaaa
So fragile

>>21560133
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFeCQaflJ0

>>21560133
Why can't you be more like reddit?

>>21560146
Why can't you be more like dead?

Television is such an all-encompassing experience, visuals, sound, movement, that it does rob people of an essential experience of their own minds. Books can be read passively and as escapism just as tv can, but tv does have a quality that lends itself to being a numbing agent. Our whole society is one of numbing people to the suffering that the systems we live in produce in us. We all know the system is no good. We also know that to get rid of it would make us suffer until we found the new way. This just means that we will continue to suffer until the suffering becomes too great and we can no longer ignore it.

The medium is the message is a catchy alliterative slogan, but I think a more universalised version of this truth would be stated as something like 'it is not what we do, but how we do it'. Not the size of the boat, but the motion in the ocean . . . these things all sound trite and banal and so people skip over them and pay them no mind, which is exactly why they don't extract the wisdom from them.

>Everywhere … the guiding principle is one of ruthless striving for success at the expense of one’s fellow men. This competitive spirit prevails even in school and, destroying all feelings of human fraternity and cooperation, conceives of achievement not as derived from the love for productive and thoughtful work, but as springing from personal ambition and fear of rejection.
--Einstein

>>21560133
Being impeccable with your word is not using the word against yourself. If I see you in the street and I call you stupid, it appears that I’m using the word against you. But really I’m using my word against myself, because you’re going to hate me for this, and your hating me is not good for me. Therefore, if I get angry and with my word send all that emotional poison to you, I’m using the word against myself.

>>21560159
you sound like you do a lot of things to yourself mate

>>21560148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_4aRznxXkI

>>21560159
Placebo. If that works for you then you never really needed it in the first place.

>>21559602
I was reading about that idea today myself. Self Help is bad because it exploits the suffering of others. There is often wisdom in it, and the author may genuinely be interested and wish to help, but the form of the industry, the flashy titles, blurbs, the insane promises they make, they all serve to draw in desperate people in order to raise their own power, generally. It is a business, like 10 minute Youtube videos padded out to waste your time. A book needs 200 pages and a flashy cover and some celebrity blurbs about how it will change your life. And it needs to sell enough to buy the author a beach house. And they need to make you think you can change your life nice and easily and quickly without hard work and suffering.

>the three-step formula it uses to advance its claims is one that is widely used in the popular self-help movement: first, human failure and unhappiness are reduced to one simple cause; second, simple digestible solutions are offered for solving the problem at hand; and third, seductive promises are made as to what faithfully following these solutions will bring. Many books which use this formula are often couched in a literary style designed to sell and impress – one that tends to favour catchy titles and bullet points which summarise the redemptive path.

>There is also a marked tendency to evade the contradictions that these books can sometimes contain, for example, that significant insight and lasting change can be attained with little effort; that uncritically following the dictates of a book is compatible with independence of thought and critical reflection; that reading a book to attain social success and material wealth is consistent with liberation from egocentricity; that one can feel better and become better without undergoing any deep personality change or without changing certain oppressive social circumstances; that one may have a ‘life of detachment’ while reading a book which motivates its readers with promises of increased wealth and status; that a ‘life of infinite advancement’ can be achieved for those who possess few resources, and only limited access to social care and education. In short, the formula commonly used in many self-help regimes is designed for people whose lives (unfortunately) leave them with little time to think, for people who therefore wish to be told what to do, and for those who desire immediate results without expending too much effort to attain them.

--The Importance of Suffering by James Davies

>makes a thread on /lit/ about reading more
>REEEEEE I WANT TO CONSOOM ELECTRONICS INSTEAD

>>21559718
>Entertainment technology is a net negative for mankind.

Entertainment is a positive IF you are already a whole and complete person with the right mindset. If you use entertainment to numb yourself or compensate for something, it is a distraction from the work you should be doing to make yourself whole i.e. man works a dead end job for 40 hours a week and spends his nights alone with Netflix, 4chan, Facebook etc.; you are with people and they are all on their phones instead of being attentive to each other etc.

>>21560205
Imagine filling your brain with this when you could be memorizing a poem

>>21560222
I agree with this idea. Iddleness is necessary but only after you have built something for yourself and have a defined path you need to reflect on and potentially harmful when used as an excuse against industrious people or the competitiveness of the world.
Sorry if i misuderstood your statement.

>>21559860
Common knowledge is often the most overlooked and vital knowledge to understand, and that most people do not understand, because most people overlook what is common and simple, and so never understand the depths of it. Even simple concepts like do unto others as you would have other do unto you evade some people, for various psychological reasons that they torture themselves with, and then torture other people with, all because of an unwillingness to be attentive to what is common and ordinary and good, and a fear of not being special themselves, perhaps.

>>21559165
Epic tweet my friend

>book cites a famous thinker and applies their ideas to a current situation
WHY WOULD I READ THIS RIP OFF TRASH WASTE OF TIME KILL YOURSELF

>>21559165
But perhaps long essays are worse for one's world view than books. Either way you don't seem to know the half of what he's talking about.

How did the codex shape the thoughts of the readers differently compared to the roll?

>>21559152
Is this why I have trouble forming connections in real life? Because I've spent the formative years of my life being anonymous and memeing with anonymous people?

>>21559152
Neil Postman also spoke of the issues of the different media, television in particular, and I think you will find his thoughts to be a nice supplement to what you've articulated here:
https://youtu.be/hlrv7DIHllE

In short, another big issue with television and social media, as you've partially pointed out, is that they do not answer a genuine human need. Their role, quick exchange of simplified information, is already sufficiently fulfilled by the radio, telephones and the newspapers. And the need sharing of more substantial, complex thoughts is most thoroughly fulfilled, as you pointed out, by books (or writing more generally; for instance the epistolary art, now mostly lost, also used to fulfill this role, comparably to newspapers but in the private sphere of life) and also by the arts.
Postman's books "Amusing Ourselves to Death" (you've probably heard the title before) and "Technopoly" are also recommendable.

>>21559164
Books are not a solution, however. They may serve you as tools and help guide you, but they will never replace the true, first hand experience of life. Book-addiction is a real issue which now people sneer at as ludicrous — like any other tool by which means one may learn about the world, it has the potential to create a wide illusory landscape that may obscure the real world for you, make you believe you know things which in truth don't exist, and make you put value in things which in the real experience of life don't matter.
So, first and foremost, go touch grass, and then you may read about it. But whatever you read or hear, do not digest it, only taste — you should only ever digest your own thinking, lest someone else's thoughts should replace your own, and again, lock you inside an illusion.

>>21560276
Social anxiety, or at least what people commonly refer to as social anxiety, is the direct result of people having no grasp of the fundamentals of life while having their heads filled to the brim with utterly useless and untrue complexities completely divorced from true human experience.
People fumble with the simplest thing while being preoccupied with the "scary big world out there" which is not really there.

The medium is part of the message.

The teen girl who texted her guy friend into suicide, that whole story was made into a doco, and about 98% of their relationship was texting. The doco was really enjoyable as a lot of it was nature scenes of their hometown and their texts to each other displayed.

They would randomly text each other, one would say oranges, the other pears for example.

>>21559165
what is the message of this medium? acrimony as a means of attention, where otherwise you would've been ignored.
i don't disagree with you, but you also make nothing of value on your own so academic bugs like op's post are higher on the food chain. (this You is not an upvote).

>>21562423
no it's because you touch yourself at night

i remember reading somewhere that McLuhan would only read one side of the book he was reading, so he could make out for himself what was going on on the other page. i do this but with meetings

>>21559616
>>21559659
pretty much. but op made a good summary and no one here will need to read it now. it's an interesting idea on its own and i'm not going to touch anything from the author, but i'll think about it every once in a while for a few days. that's a decent enough thread for me (without taking into account discussion).

>>21562448
Postman, contra a chad like McLuhan, was a libcuck midwit. He was a "critic" of television. These things aren't negotiable. Aliteracy is much more complex than literacy.

>>21563014
Maybe, but Postman provides great examples of media morphing completely to favor amusement and visual spectacle. If anything McLuhan needs to be brought down to a practicable level and have the esoteric schizo rambling muted.

>>21559405
Hitler is probably a more extreme example.

>>21559602
this is an issue I have with many (self-help?) american books
a lot of them follow that
it's all formulaic as fuck

>>21559160
i can already see here the dim form of yet another erstwhile progressive shilling for a discredited neoliberal consensus. after 8 years of pedal-to-the-floor black-and-white moralistic screeching suddenly it's time to step back and appreciate the rich tapestry of the world? sounds like a loser struggling under the weight of their own mountain of bullshit

>>21559839
cringe post but correct in spirit, the value of (fiction primarily) is that it allows you to live another's life quickly and gain the wisdom that would otherwise be forever lost to you in your singularity

>>21563140
no, postman was a reactionary eulogizing a dying all-print mass culture

>>21565365
How did you manage to extract that from the prior post?

>>21562481
B00kmarked

>>21559602
While I agree in principle, shitting on effortpoasters isn’t exactly making this place better

>>21559165
>I could answer that question in about 10k words with as much factual accuracy and clarity as some academic longform fuckwit does in his entire 200+ page book, AND provide a reasonable answer as to how to reverse it
No you couldn't

>>21562423
There is a way out and that is to go and do things. It can be anything you want so long as it is with other people. Hobbies, volunteering, a new career, religion, just pick something and DO IT! The path is long, slow, and winds in circles sometimes but you have to stick to it.

I used entertainment to numb the burden of a difficult and alienating adolescence but have since taken up religion, a gym membership, and applied to join the army. It has taken me a long time, many false starts, and just as many dead ends to find my way and I still have room to improve. Reflection is a good tool but your outlook should be forward facing.

>>21559709
You still sound insufferable.

What a fucking shit show of a thread.

>>21559164
I would say books also convey the message that an intellectual interpretation of the world is correct. Easy to fall into the trap of over intellectuallizing
What is the message of 4chan?
That it's proper to carry no consequences for your words. It's proper to amuse yourself with conversation. That conversation is fleeting and every topic is soon to be gone (archived). That's for fast boards, I mean.

>>21559938
Some people just like to argue

>>21559152
>${new_thing} is making us dumb
i sleep

>>21559152
Great thread, thanks.

>>21559696
>Wow, you made it green. Great!

>>21565610
This anon has been rendered catatonic by the New Thing. His will power and vitality have been sapped.

>>21559806
>'nime website though

Me heading into this thread:

> Oh boy, I've read this book a while ago and this thread looks like there's some interesting discussion about its theses going on.

No it's just another autistic retard (>>21559165) shitting it up within the first five replies and then getting belligerent with people politely telling him to fuck off.

So let me explain to (you) why I think you're an autistic retard: you have no concept of how to socially interact. Someone made a post with some level of actual effort about a book they read, which deals with a problem that many people consider real, meaning the thread is on topic for this board. Then you immediately vomit out your preconcieved notion without ever even having looked at the book (>>21559602) in order to sound intellectual and try and get approval for it. People politely make posts implying you should piss of (>>21559190) at which point you just start sperging at the larger number of people that subsequently tells you to go fuck yourself.

You're an autistic basement dwelling college student know-it-all that is constantly on the verge of dropping out because you can't understand why you get mediocre grades despite being so smurt because you've read Marcus Aurelius and the Bagvad Gita partially over the course of eight months. You try fishing for social brownie points by regurgitating an opinion that a number of people on an imageboard hold in a desperate bid to fit in and placate your insecurity at being immature.

TL;DR go neck yourself before shitting up another person's thread who actually took the time to read a book instead of playing vidya and puking up smarter people's opinions. Faggot.

>>21565385
What part of his thesis do you disagree with? Transition from an implicit thoughtful text medium to a explicit grotesque visual medium has obviously affected the zeitgeist in mostly negative ways.

>>21565662
calm down, he's just baiting or unironically retarded - standard 4chin SOP

>>21559152
>ITT /lit/ seethes at the prospect of discussing literature

>>21566048
Not him but it's elitism vs. populism. Abolishing all intellectual pretext is le soulful development

>>21559152
I love this board but you're all such assholes lol

who has time to use social media

>>21559718
>rages because poster used an anime photo

>>21559779
Anime website