/lit/ - Literature

>>21464164
Oh get over yourself and get some exercise.

>>21464170
What do you mean "get over yourself"? I doubt that you are a 29 years old loser NEET.

22 year old loser neet
Stop caring and start being a no good troublemaker

>>21464164
68th book on this list

>>21464170
fpbp, you will get nowhere in life with that attitude OP. exercise and stop watching pron and coomblasting. go to church.

>>21464182
>bro, just go to the church and don't touch your dick and go to the gym!

Peak broscience right there.

>>21464164
Well, maybe stop being a NEET. Get a job, loser

>>21464195
I cudna een if I wannita

Is it the normie life that good, bros?

>>21464164
um try No Longer Human by Dazai

Ayyyyyy
Im also 28 y/o neet
Sup?

>>21464164
Learned Optimism by Martin Seligman
>noooo none of the self help stuff has done anything!
It's literally the science of how you became hopless from the guy who coined the term "learned helplessness". You don't even need to read how to reverse your paralyzed state self loathing to understand that you can do it.

Neet normie based chad chud npc cope dilate

>>21464186
found the porn addict. bet you are a libertarian.

another 28 yr old neet checking in

>>21464302
Wrong, I'm left wing, stop projeciton your prejudice, retarded.

>>21464229
>Seligman worked with Christopher Peterson to create what they describe as a "positive" counterpart to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). While the DSM focuses on what can go wrong, Character Strengths and Virtues (2004) is designed to look at what can go right. In their research they looked across cultures and across millennia to attempt to distill a manageable list of virtues that have been highly valued from ancient China and India, through Greece and Rome, to contemporary Western cultures. Their list includes six character strengths: wisdom/knowledge, courage, humanity, justice, temperance, and transcendence. Each of these has three to five sub-entries; for instance, temperance includes forgiveness, humility, prudence, and self-regulation.
Cool, thanks anon. Stay safe

>>21464322
lefty even worse. how much porn do you watch?

>>21464309
Whats good
What do you think of this whole life thing
Any good story to share?

>>21464164
> Books that deal with regret, loneliness, sorrow, and being a failure of human being?
The Face of Another
The Box Man

>>21464164
Letters to a young poet by Rilke
Philokalia
Book of disquiet by Pessoa
Thats what ive been reading lately and im in the same boat
If youre anything like me you might be overly sensitive, misunderstood and have trouble functioning in environment with people. Last year i finally realized life of solitude is probably my path. I tried a lot of things over the years, but none of them turned out to be for me. I finally completely rejected societal pressures of fitting in. Ive been so thoroughly betrayed and abandoned by people that i closed that chapter, patiently awaiting for departure from this world into a place where souls longing for goodness go
Ive seen another worlds...

>>21464436
Based wizard.

>>21464329
Basado. Get to it, bruv

>>21464170
What if I already do martial arts and sport and it doesn't make me less of a nihilistic looser ?

>>21464482
It's strange that these forces have converged to give me new perspective on New Years' Day. I think I've finally realized that a good life is one lived consistently, honestly, and boringly - with an equally consistent, honest, and boring will-to-love rather than a shaky, dishonest, and interesting will-to-power. I'm getting to it, anon. Happy New Year.

>>21464214
Why, are you disabled?

>>21464164
Me in 6ish years if I don't manage to off myself.

Confederacy of Dunces

>>21464706
Is it any good?

If someone was going to write a book about Western NEETs comparing them to Japanese hikkikonori, what questions should they ask to interview subjects?

I just realized there's no anthropological book examining modern NEETs.

I'd say Extension du domaine de la lutte, Les particules élementaires and Serotonine by Houellebecq

The book of disquiet by Pessoa

Notes from Underground and White Nights by Dosto

you might like No Longer Human by Dazai, but i thought it was pretty mid

>>21464164
Been there. I went back to school, got a job, met the woman of my life and just proposed to her yesterday. It will all work fine. Also get over your leftism (been there as well). Leftism is just a rationalization for your anxieties and a search for meaning in a world where god is dead. It’s all a lie. Cheers.

>>21464733
Not that guy, but I think it's hilarious.
Also the author killed himself, so it's got that going for it.

>>21464855
I bet you did that before even turning 25, the OP guy is almost 30 years old.

>>21464164
>>21464173
>>21464186
You see yourself as a victim and yet refuse to admit that your poor traits have landed you where you are. Stop wallowing, stop projecting, and stop your bad habits. Exercise, get any kind of job, read literature, and find a creative hobby (writing, learning an instrument, etc.) and you'll begin to crawl out faster than you thought possible.

>>21464880
Nigga, Of fucking course I know that I was my fault that I am in the spot right now.

bump

>>21464883
Do you live with your parents, are they poor, why dont they force you to do something?

>>21464955
Why are you bumping this dumb thread?

>>21465119
Bump

>>21464177
This Is a fake list kek

>>21464164
Nothing you can do about the past, try and accept it and look at what's in front of you and do what you can with it. Looking back to the past in regret and resentment only makes you a more bitter person. If you hold on tight to your bad past it prevents you from living the life you have now, which I'm sure in the future you'll wish you had done more with. Is your life ideal? No. Could it be better? Yes. Could it be worse? Probably. You already wasted parts of you life, why waste the rest of it? Don't continue making the same mistakes when you already acknowledge that you made them to begin with, let it motivate and push you to inspire change in your life
Something that may help is understanding the power of our thoughts. The things we think about ourselves can manifest in our everyday lives. If you think negative thoughts about yourself it will manifest that way in your life. If you often think good things about yourself, it will manifest positively in your life. That's a reason why I like praying to God, asking God to aid me in getting what I want, helps me prioritise those things in my life. Also to create a positive feedback loop where you can cultivate a better outlook e.g. being grateful to be alive, good health, good food etc.
Praying = manifesting

It's hard getting things together later on in life, but it's not impossible. It may not be ideal, but it's not too late to lead a purposeful life.

>>21464164
What happened to you that you became a failure? Any chance of unfucking yourself in the future?
>what are some books about being a 28 (soon 29) years old loser? Books that deal with regret, loneliness, sorrow, and being a failure of human being?
The Defining Decade: Why your twenties matter' by Meg Jay. It's far more brutal than some extentialist novel as she writes what one should have made and achieved in their twenties without offering the comfyness of a novel. There is no comeback in your twenties. You have one more year of making it, which is not that bad desu. She is mostly talking about the succesful cases she knows but also mentions at least one depressing one without a happy end.
Not all of the advice is that convincing and I cringe at Americans and anyone who takes the Myers-Briggs test seriously but that's just a detail desu.

>>21465705
>There is no comeback in your twenties
*thirties, not twenties. If you have not become achieved setting up your career and relationship with a partner you are going to marry soon than you fucked up and it will affect you badly in the future.

Houellebecq graduated into NEETdom and his wife divorced him when he was 30. That’s when he became a writer.

>>21464164
Try "Praise" by Andrew McGahan
Young Australian guy hasn't amounted to much in life. Works at a bottle shop (liquor store for the Americans) for minimum wage. Even this is too hard so he quits and goes on the dole. Shacks up with a mentally unstable nymphomaniac who has severe ezcema.
It's pure Kino and got made into a great arthouse film.

>>21464164
Obligatory Stoner recommendation.

> I didnt get a gf and a job in my twenties so I need to kill myself

lmao
roflcopter even

>>21464164
This right here. Here’s one of my favorite excerpts
> He slid down in the warm, foamy water until just his face and his knobby white knees were exposed.
>Once he had read Wuthering Heights over a weekend and gone to school susceptible to any heroine, only to have the girl who sat in front of him, whom he had admired for some months, emit a loud fart which had murdered him in a small way and kept him from speaking a word to anyone the whole week following. He had laughed at a very funny joke about a Negro when Irwin told it at a party, and then the following day had seen some white men lightly kicking a Negro man in the pants, and temporarily he had questioned laughter altogether. He had gone to several universities with the vague exaltation of Old Man Axelrod and had found only curves and credits. He had become drunk on the idea of God and found only theology. He had risen several times on the subtle and powerful wings of lust, expectant of magnificence, achieving only discharge. A few times he had extended friendship with palpitating hope, only to find that no one quite knew what he had in mind. His solitude now was the result of his metabolism, that constant breathing in of joy and exhalation of sadness. He had come to take shallower breaths, and the two had become mercifully mixed into melancholy contentment. He wondered how pain would breach that low-level strength. "I'm a small man of definite limitations," he declared to himself, and relaxed in the admission.

>>21465642
Oh fuck off you had a good start then you just had to ruin it

>>21464883
So whats your excuse then?

>>21464532
I think that's always a conversation worth having. I don't necessarily think consistency equates to a boring life. Consistency is of course the key to habit forming. Habits are the building blocks of your life. They lead to more habits and more interests and more meaning should that be part of your habit forming. That's self-sustaining and allows your existence to grow deeper and more profoundly forever. Although that isn't to say there isn't appreciation to be found for the seemingly mundane.

>>21464164
Do you need to work?
If so, you simply don't have a "choice".
Otherwise if you're rich it doesn't matter I think

25yo NEET here, what's up NEET bros? How did you spend new year's eve? I drank some beer, raided in WoW and watched anime, was fun as always.

>>21464164
>>21464220
>>21464309
>>21464334
another one here, how do you guys spend your times

>>21464334
Zero stories or experience to tell, just waiting for life to be over.
>>21466264
I shitpost some. Don't play videogames because I am bad at controls and my reaction time is too bad to play competently, and I zone out. I just kind of sit around, sleep a lot. Lift weights 3 days a week, noodle around on guitar

>>21464164
31 year old neet loser here anon, read Faust then join the Air Force and try again with the remains of this life.

>>21464164
>28 and thinks life is hard
Wait another 12 years or so

>>21467523
most neets are ineligible for the military due to mental illness though

Bump

>>21467631
Are all NEETs mentally ill tough?

>>21464170
I exercise 5 times a week and it changes nothing in my life

>>21464164
I find myself in a similar position. I would focus on improving myself rather than dwelling on past failures otherwise I will find myself in a worse position than in the previous year. Do you want this feeling to accumulate? I certainly don't. If you don't want to get a job then try to make some money online like futures trading. In 2-3 years you could be making minimum wage at the very least

read Suttree

if you don't come out of that book with a new perspective on life then you're fucked

>>21464562
Having no career, no education and no curriculum in the modern world may as well be a disability, don't you think?

>>21468239
I'm a neet and I've talked with other neets online. I'd say that yes, most if not all neets are mentally ill, generally due to social anxiety but also mental breakdowns due to stress. In my case in particular is due to a mix of my nervous system and OCD.

Bump

>>21464164
Gravity's Rainbow

Last year I have been an adhd neet and while it has been a very comfy time I havent managed to do anything meaningful besides reading a few pages turners
All my plans to sharpen up my prog skills and/or do some certs fell into the water due to the shitty habits I developed (sleeping till 12 am, hourlong shallow web browsing, hourlong sessions with my smartphone in the bed)
It got to the point that even writing an application letter seemed like a massive chore/herculean task and I have been putting it off for months

Finally got a job and I have to say while its tiresome as hell, its surely better than being a lazy degenerate neet that just wastes his lifetime shitposting/consooming garbage online. Weeks dont pass by that fast and everything isnt just a blurr anymore.
(Of course if you are a patrician neet that manages to read, learn and exercise mostly in his freetime then I would stay the hell away from the cage.)

>>21468688
I don't. There will always be jobs that don't require education, what is wrong with that? Even if you don't want to work physically, you can get a forklift certificate, or for some other machine

>>21464164
Welcome to the N.H.K.
A Man With No Talents
>>21464322
>I'm left wing
Nevermind, just kill yourself faggot

>>21467631
Mental illness isn't real. The military has comically low standards, unless you've a medical history instead of self diagnosed nonsense you can get in fine.

>>21468712
A man is only as anxious as his world lets him be. I was deathly afraid when I enlisted but I got through it and adjusted. But for many NEETs who have managed to waste so much of their life like myself, the only thing that can get you to make this change is absolute necessity. Sato could only get a job when he was starving, I could only muster the courage to do the same after becoming homeless. The fact I could do it as proof that I did, but at the same time that I waited until I was middle aged destitute and living on the street is equal parts tragedy and comedy, if I didn't hate myself and the world before I sure do now, whatever is wrong that allows such...it's very hard to express.

bumping for more recommendations.

>>21464170
basic bitch
>>21464880
no one gives a shit about me, me included

>>21464170
based and /fitlit/-pilled

>>21464164
In what way are you a faliure?
Work is just a means to earn some money. Try to find something you enjoy in life, don't search for meaning in wagecuckery.

29yo neet, alcoholic just went threw withdrawal, prolly going to start another bender and do it again.

No real good options I'm afraid, all paths forward point to being in the doldrums of life for at least several more years and then you could be on par with your average 22 yo.

But nothing will make up for the lack of life experience which cannot be made up for at all.

Applied for like 7 jobs, got 3 of them, went to none of them because they all suck even though I know I can't do any better.

having had a bad experience with anti depressants at age 18 i eschewed and generally adopted an attitude that saw any kind of medical interference with depression and mental illness as hostile. At age 29, now, having essentially failed at everything i attempted, i have buckled and started to take them again and it is shocking to me but true, that they are genuinely helping, and that the pits, the deepest pits that followed every miniscule accomplishment, and made me feel that things were not in my control, that these pits have disappeared. All of the life lesson that i have accumulated but failed to realize, are suddenly carrying fruits. And its not like bad thoughts have disappeared. I stil contemplate suicide, having racing thoughts in sleepless nights, but when it matters, when i put in the work to change my situation, i am much more composed.
I feel validated in my hidden, degraded but still existing belief in myself. Despite of all my failures, i stayed eager to learn, to understand, to be comitted to the truth, regarding myself and my life. And now that i have a little bit of aid, even if it has to be in the form of a pill, i can suddenly, finally, at last feel that i have built a foundation in my mind. I didnt have this foundation as a teenager, in truth this foundation only really materialized in the last 2 years, as my illusions and impulsivity had quieted down.
I feel now, after months of gradual successes, that i can build my own future. And that still, even at this age, everything is possible to me, that what you get from life, depends entirely on how much effort you dedicate to it.

But i also understand that we are not fully in control. And the fact that an alteration in my internal chemical composition was the thing that made these changes materialize, is a scary thought. Knowing that it can not be discarded, our body, our chemistry, our brain structure, our past, our traumas, i refuse to judge others for failure, resignation, surrender, suicide. There is no level playing field, and it is true that for some it is harder to get out of bed, than it is for some to do a extreme workout.

>>21464173
I was (at 26), then I learned programming. Now I have a wife, make $300k a year, and am traveling across Spain for the past 3 months. Lift yourself up you lame faggot

bump

>>21470560
Mine going more into your story? I'm 27 working on learning programming right now.

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>>21470560
what resources you used where do i start

>>21464170
I listened to this advice like 5 years ago and went from a neet autist to a neet autist that can bench 300. nothing besides my that has acutally changed in my life tho. dont fall for the "getting fit fixes everything" meme. if whatever is bothering you isn't directly fitness related then there is no point.

>>21464164
The Problem of the Puer Aeternus by Marie-Louise von Franz

>>21464170
i wish the diet, exercise and sleep meme would fucking die already. fucking stock answer for every problem someone has. well guess what, not everything is related to that. i also hate the term "mental health" cuz it turned the whole thing about mental problems into some banal ordeal of hygienic practices. feeling depressed? too many carbs this month. you didn't poop regularly. not enough fucking apples apparently. this is why there's no point in even asking for help because it's just retards that repeat what other retards say and no one actually gets it.

>>21464164
You don't need books, you need to go to church, a gym and find a job. Also stop watching porn. Do these and you'll no longer be a failure and won't need books on how to deal with these.

>>21464164
Are you an incel? Because if you are not, then you're not a loser and you are appropriating our culture.

>>21472460
Sleep is huge because when you don't get enough sleep your judgement decreases, but the thing that tells you your judgement is shot is non functional. Read Matthew Walker Why We Sleep

>>21472240
Based fitlitcell.

>>21472487
you say this shit like someone wouldn't be able to tell the difference between depression and just being sleep deprived. like, hey guys, just took a nap and it all seems much better and doable now!

>>21472629
It's not "just" being sleep deprived it's a lot more serious than you realize, which you can't do if you're sleep deprived

>>21472240
you forgot the "get over yourself" part

>>21472696
which could be done without the 5 years of lifting

>>21465627
no that was the actual final list

im in the same place as you, same age even. All i know is that the very first step has to be forcing myself a regular routine and sleeping patterns, as that will make it easier to achieve virtually every other short and long term goal. ive decided already to try and stay up through the night to try and fix my sleeping patterns but im feeling abnormally sluggish so we will see if I can make it

I really do hope I can make it. it seems like my ability to indulge in all my coping mechanisms is wearing out. my folks are getting older and money is tight, my health is beyond fucked and i cant binge drink alcohol or smoke weed to inject some fake sense of happiness and meaning anymore, Im becoming more and more apathetic towards politics and internet shit etc., its been years since ive really enjoyed videogames

also im starting to feel like its now or never. there's some genuine pressure building now and its becoming more and more apparent that im probably going to have a heart attack or die homeless and freeze to death if i dont change

I have a list of short and long term goals set up now but it all starts with addressing my stupid nocturnal bullshit and lack of any real structure in my life

>>21472465
I'm incelish.

>>21472782
Do you have any kind of work or job? Even just working at a store part time can be a huge help. You need some kind of work in the outside world that you can just stick with, even if it's something simple

>>21472830
thats obviously one of my goals, but its a big, literately life changing one that I have to build up to still. I work a little bit, and i do mean a very very small amount sometimes, doing labour stuff where im basically alone and have a huge amount of leeway in what i do, when i can sit and rest if i feel like i need to, when i show up, how long i work etc. but working an actual job full time or even part time probably is well above me right now, iat least i think it is. especially around other people. im like in a borderline schizo state at this point and i dont have faith that I can hold it together properly to work in a normal work environment for 8 hours, especially around other people.

ive already started going for walks for the exercise and to get used to being active and out in the world again which I hope will help ease my pseudo-schizo feelings of dissociation and derealization, now i need to fix my sleeping patterns and build a basic routine and actually stick to it long enough to make it into a habit, then i make sure im eating better so i can feel physically better and more physically confident, as my sedetary lifestyle is killing me and now im starting to get legitimately fat

as I get these steps down im going to be try and ramp up my hours and work more at my current job. if i can hold that together I might bite the bullet and finally try to get a normal full time job If i need it.

if i can achieve this very simple basic goal which so many people seem to take for granted I think i will be in a very good place, relatively i guess. Im far from being the worst looking dude with a good physical frame, tall enough, broad shoulders and chest etc, and i have some normie social experience from before I became an anxiety driven schizo, lots of girls seemed to like me back then, so i think i could really make things work and make a humble but nice little life for myself

>>21465734
Actually unique suggestion and not just gay motivational shit. Based anon.
t. have life relatively in order but still have morbid fascination with neet/macabre loser stories

Behead All Satans

>>21464164
>>21464175
>>21464220
>>21464309
NEETs should all starve. Well, at least you do starve from love, affection, achievements... things that many humans deem more important than food.

>>21473059
Why do you have a fascination with loser stories?

>>21473194

>>21472726
yes, it seems to take even longer since >>21472240 are still a neet autist

>>21464164
behead all satans

>>21464170
You never had depression. Try doing those things when your depression gives you severe migraines and IBS.

>>21464186
You can't stop jerking off, you don't have control over yourself, you are weak.

>>21469346
>>you can get a forklift certificate, or for some other machine
>being this ignorant of the world around you
american?

now why should i get a job now when the economy's gonna reset in 2030? got an answer for that?

>>21475594
Not him, but are you a shitskin?

>>21475636
>anyone outside of america must be a shitskin
Are americans so fucking mentally deficient that they forgot where they came from? Also, an absolute laugh, "shitskin" coming from an American of all people.

>>21475644
I'm not american, i just assume everyone whining about america is a 3rd worlder, and you are extremely defensive...

>>21464164
>sleep at normal times
>don't use electronic devices (unless it's really necessary and only for the purpose of necessity)
>throw yourself headfirst into whatever it is that you need or want to do
Whoa!!! Suddenly shit just works?!?

>>21475933
/lit/ is necessary?

>>21464880
Why would he do this though? He's missed out on the core components of life, like genuine love, which are age gated at around 22.

In any case, he's looking for literature like Notes from the Underground.

I like this thread. Some nice book recs. Also I'm 29 and am a kissless virgin incel that lives off of my parents.

How do I avoid the fate of the anons ITT, Im only 22 but I think my life is heading in this direction

>>21476313
I like these kinds of threads because I’ve been there and I know the feeling. It’s not morbid curiosity for loser stories as another anon put it, it’s com-passion (feeling together).

>>21475594
europoor, sadly

>>21464855
What you're really saying is
>collapse into the arms of a fictional but simple way to interpret reality because the benefits of the delusion outweigh the act of being deluded

Based?

>>21464170
This

>>21464706
came here to say this

where do i download books from?
z-lib is Down

>>21464243
>Neet normie based chad chud npc cope dilate

my twisted wolrd - elliot roge

>>21477591
libgen.rs

>>21464436
I've read that Rilke book several times and always wonder if I should just kill myself or look up at the night sky when I finish. Book of Disquiet is peak schizo, you should check out Pessoa's poetry, one of my personal favourite poets,v particularly Keeper of Sheep.

>>21468688
No, it isn't, you stupid fuck. My wife is actually disabled from Lyme disease, so shut the fuck up. I literally was a forklift driver for years and made good money. Ended up going back to school and now I substitute teach on my own schedule (which isn't much now bc of Covid and snotty kids) and work as a Crossing Guard for the local school. I make 30k a year and work less than 10 hours a week.
Most of time is spent gardening, reading, writing, watching my wife cooks (usually just sitting in my chair reading and doing the dishes after eating), and playing online video games with my friends.

Get up and change your life, stop being a bitch.

>>21470486
This could've been written by me, except I'm one year younger. Especially the part about brain chemistry I've been thinking a lot about.

I'm reading the Patrick O'Brian series atm
Some books that I found to be very good last year as a 28 year old loner were those written by Umberto Eco, particularly Foucault's Pendulum
I like books which make me feel like I know people and are a part of a friendship
RIP Belbo

>>21475966
No it isn't.
>'heh but you're on /lit'
Yes I know, sue me. I can afford to do some unnecessary things sometimes.

>>21464164
Go do some pull ups
>>21474152
>WAAAAA WAAAAAAH LOOK AT ME IM SUCH A FUCKING PUSSY I GET EXPLOSIVE DIARHHEA JUST BY EXISTING
Pro tip: this doesn't make you look good, in fact, it means you are such a low quality human being, your entire essence is telling you to kill yourself. I concur. Do it.

>>21476345
Some simple rules:
1. Don't half-ass things, get shit done on time, preferably because you know why what you are doing is important but even if you don't then you should still do it and worry about figuring out the meaning later.
2. Figure out your principles and stick to them.
3. You arrive at perfection only after thousands of mistakes, being afraid of mistakes is the biggest mistake you can possibly make.
>t. guy who still hasn't gotten his 3 year undergrad at the age of 24,5.

>>21478433
>anon doesn't know what IBS is
based...?

>>21464164
28 yo NEET here. Regret is probably the most retarded emotion of them all. Look, this is the bottom line: anything that you did in the past, you did because that was what you were equipped to do at the time. People will try to tell you otherwise, but it's true. So now all you have to consider is....are you now equipped to do those things that you "regret"? If yes, then just do them. If not, then it's no big deal and maybe you were never meant to do those things. Either way, feeling regret is pointless and retarded. I can honestly say that I don't regret a single thing from my life.

>>21478456
>People will try to tell you otherwise, but it's true.
why are they wrong?

>>21464164
You should start journaling about your life so you can fully process and accept what you've been through. You clearly have some baggage that affects your self image and the longer you put off thinking about your life objectively the longer you'll feel like a passive and powerless victim in your life. Also how is your relationship with your parents out of curiosity?

>>21478473
Because no one makes mistakes voluntarily.
>t. not that anon

>>21472460
go see a therapist then. You either want to change or you want to live in your depression and excuses because its become comfortable for you. Realize you are powerless over most things in life and do what you can to change the things you can control. You can get a job, you can workout, walk, eat right, study a new skill, go back to school. Get out of this way of life. 28 is still young just make the change man. You deserve a good life.

>>21477649
a lot of options are open to american screw ups that don't exist for european screw ups.
>army?
they have conscription which means if you didn't get in at 18, that path is completely closed to you
>simple jobs
you need 5 years of education for almost every single one. in america you can become a police officer in 3 months, in europe it takes 5 years. similarly with driving a fork lift or a tram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3aMaDScJ3c&list=PLxBReoeYDcrtzz0EmEgQG9h-pwQWFoEmt&index=3

>>21464164
idk anon, maybe you could write some memoirs :)

>>21478590
i've read the entirety of the psychotherapeutic canon. there's literally nothing there that will help you if you have genuine mental problems. so therapists are also not useful because they have no tools to handle the problem in the first place (often they can't even agree on what the problem is or whether it even exists).

and your advice is to just get busy. which is fine for a normal person with normal problems, they tend to fix themselves or you get used to them. you're not helping anyone with your cliche platitudes.

>>21478456
I agree with you. Regretting things you saw other people do but the path for you to do it never opened or you dont really wanna do them, at least not in the capacity that is realistically available, doesnt make sense. I regret, but not really. I just wonder why. Why me. Why like this

>>21472460
You sound fat desu

>>21472460
>noooo I don’t want the real answer th actually works, I want an esoteric reading list that I can pretend to work on while arguing on the internet about the best way to live

>>21474152
Sounds like you should see a doctor then.

>>21479325
not an argument

>>21479342
you sound constipated, try changing your diet.

>>21479255
You are a normal person with normal problems

>>21479356
I shit a solid log at 545am like clockwork.

>>21479356
Lots of connections being found between depression and gut biome health.

>>21465760
This is good.

>>21479255
What are your specific problems? What can you be diagnosed with according to DSM standards?

>>21464164
This but 30

>>21479391
avoidant personality disorder with schizoid tendencies. could also be conceptualized as social anxiety disorder, selective mutism, agoraphobia, complex ptsd or "not enough fiber, exercise and sleep" depending on who you talk to.

I keep trying to tell myself that I don't want to experience love, or be in a relationship, but it's so hard to not want that. Pretty much out of the running though considering I'm now old (30+), earn a terrible salary, live at home, etc. I've always found love and romance so appealing!

>>21464562
employment gap

>>21479407
I'm pretty similar actually. I still have some ways to go in my recovery (idk if you can even say recovery because I've been miserable since a child, growth is more accurate) but Complex PTSD by Pete Walker and studying this guy's videos then putting them into practice have helped quite a bit https://youtu.be/bI1p0EI6DZs

>>21479489
This is meant for >>21479420

>>21468688
When are you going to stop feeling sorry for yourself and go and do something

>>21471496
im not that anon but i recommend you to start with some high level lenguage like python

and for resources you can start with openedg (there are from python institute)

gl anon

>>21479271
>I just wonder why. Why me. Why like this
That’s called regret nigga. And the answer to the why is in the post you responded to

>>21464177
What memelord made this? Blood Meridian is a filter for pretentious lackwits

>>21472752
The presence of meme volumes suggests ironic sabotage and/or genuine lackwit sophisticate LARPing

>>21477595
Will we ever overcome this?

>>21464164
Notes from Underground

>>21464687
you sound like me 6 years ago

>>21479489
>OCD
I have nothing to say about the video, I only have my own take. I will present it here:
OCD is internalized female hysteria.

28 year old NEET here. I spent thousands of hours (around 18,000 over the past 6 years) studying and I'm still unemployed. No parties, no alcohol, no drugs, no gf, no TV. Just a shitload of studying, and it hasn't paid off at all. On the bright side I do enjoy my studies so there's that.

>>21481470
And my take on your take is: this is your paranoia about your femine side informing your judgement.

>>21469202
>hourlong shallow web browsing
Hour long? That's it?
I'm a wageslave (but also a incel loser, and a crypto neet in essence), and I spend at least 4 hours per day doomscrolling places like /lit/ (others include /g/, HN some subreddits etc)

>>21481472
what do you study?

>>21470560
i was a 35 year old khv but then I woke up one day and decided that I just felt like things should be different. Now I make 2 mil a year, fuck 300 women a year and I own a small island nation.

Just apply yourself bros.

>>21481501
this is what happens when you go to bed on time and eat your vegetables, kids.

>>21481490
I study manga

>>21481472
It's over, bro.

if you want to blackpill read No Longer Human
if you want to change, read Siddhartha

>>21464164
I was going to join the army but found I have some form of epilepsy. Rip

>>21482172
why would i want to read that tho if i'd likely worsen my life a lot, on top of that author killed himself. Life is not what happens to you, its what you make of it
Just because you've been dealt a shitty hand doesnt mean you have to worsen your life and your part of the world

>>21464164
If you are a NEET, how do you afford living? Thinking of becoming a NEET but I'm not trying to be homeless.

>>21465952
that the window for fixing those traits has long passed or he's still in those circumstances that gave rise to those traits

>>21482743
neets live with parents 99% of the time

>>21481470
That doesn't mean anything

>>21482771
What do they do if their parents die?

>>21482906
i have no idea
im a neet and i dont have a plan
my parents arent that old and im sort of capable of finding a job if i would really have to, at least i think so
im okay with being in my room all day just smoking cigs and lurking

>>21482995
You know, I kind of feel ashamed of the fact that the biggest problem I'd have with being a NEET is the judgement of my peers. To fear them belittling me if didn't have a job shows me that I value the opinions of other people too much but I'd be lying to myself if I denied it. How do you deal with that?
And what's your relationship with your parents like?

I love when millennials pretend to be "NEETs" online because deep down, they know this whole "NOT LIKE THE OTHER GUYS" schtick is pretty shameful business. A bunch of self proclaimed "real men" acting like every fucking high school pick-me bitch. Millennials literally cannot function outside of high school, holy shit!

>>21481501
I wish you'd apply yourself to making a more believable story.

>>21464164
im 31 kkhv neet just read cioran UG zappfe etc etc

>>21483081
Why would someone pretend to be a NEET, really? Just for attention from other people who view it as some internet exclusive status symbol? I've seen it before, but it seemed to die down a lot after COVID. I guess because they lost their monopoly on being jobless and playing video games all day. they always have lain profile pictures for some reason

>>21481472
I find it hilarious that you must regard yourself as that character played by Colin Firth.
Your "studies" are neutralised by the realities of existence.
You have retained nothing but an untouchable sense of pride because you have yet to ever express its validity or potentiality outside of 4chan.
You are an abstinent fool who has wasted his teenage years and his entire twenties.
You desperately read books because you browse the internet.
You count every senseless hour as though their numeric collation would endear your "expertise" over other more conventional readers and artists but you are nothing, nobody.

>>21483041
My current neetdom came about after years and years of gradual increasing disgust with other people after gradual discoveries of the astounding level of their lies, deceitfulness, uglyness, hypocrisy and betrayal. I dont care at all cause i know for a fact that peer judgement is empty, hollow, vain, twisted and i dont want to be a part of it at all.
I dont belong in this world anyway. Im waiting to die so i can go someplace better

Theres some part in the tartar steppe where the protagonist realizes the senior officers he looked up to in the fort where actually the biggest failures since they stayed the longest. And then he turns into an oldfag himself.

>>21483137
>Why would someone pretend to be a NEET, really?
>Just for attention from other people who view it as some internet exclusive status symbol?
You just answered your own question. What I've learned is that a lot of so called "NEETs," "incels," "SJWs," etc are all broken people who can't function in real life, so they cling to the internet where they can pretend to be just about anything they want to be, like when >>21481501 said he owned a small island nation. Obviously, he doesn't. He can't provide proof of it, nor will he. But he doesn't have that much of a life, so he has to pretend in the hopes of impressing people, people he'll never meet, but nevertheless exist, so that he can function. It's like the girls who say they're not like the other girls, because they're desperate to seem unique and special just like they were told all their lives. So many guys function the exact same way. You're just some pasty mutt whose boring parents raise him in a boring lower middle class neighbourhood? Well, shit! Time for you to get AN IDENTITY! But not just ANY identity, one that inspires fear and revulsion in the ranks of the OTHER guys, those NORMIES! It's a lot like liberal Christians, who will throw all that genocide, rape, murder, incest, etc in the Bible away and focus on "GOD LOVES GAY PEOPLE OK" because they're desperate to boost their rapidly aging congregations (seriously, I can go to any liberal church in my town, and it's ALL old white people. One of them even shut down entirely and the church was torn down and the land sold). Normie. People on 4chan like to use it. They think they're somehow radically different from the rest of society. So many normal cunts on 4chan, it's not funny. They call everyone else normies, because they want to pretend like they're somehow different despite consuming the exact same product as anyone else. Doing everything exactly opposite from "The Mainstream" is the same thing as doing everything exactly like "The Mainstream." You're still using What Everyone Else is Doing as your primary point of reference. It's the same kind of stupid that is practiced by Satanists who worship the Christian Devil. I agree. Like, wow, you literally just called me a normal person. Wow such a hurtful insult. It’s like saying “normal person”. People call you that when they assume you’re too basic to understand what their talking about, even though it's just generic consoomer shit in the first place. But what does this all have to do with NEETs? Well, who doesn't want to be able to stay home and not work? Who isn't tired of shitty bosses - hell, the WWF literally made its bread and butter with Stone Cold, who personified this very feeling. But you can't realistically do that, at least, not as well as it's often portrayed on imageboards. There's a lot of struggle and adversity. There's a lot of coping, too, because insecurity drips from every word.

>>21483041
I forgot to answer the parents part.
I was always a good kid and never got in any trouble. When i grew up i realized thats not how you achieve anything ever. So first i thought i needed to be more assertive and dominant so i kinda tried to get out of parents catch but to no avail. Turns out its not that i need to be more assertive, i straight up have to be evil to get anything in this world. And i cant do that really. I started doubting my parents are actually good or they just wanted me to be their slave/ make money for them/ dont care about me. I gotta say these days i am not so sure and i dont trust them at all. At all. I dont believe them anything but im pretty inquisitive in general. Im not saying my parents are any worse than the majority of the populace. Im just saying i dont belong in this world, generally speaking

>>21483163
Damn man, you rented the entire cinema for that level of projection

>>21483207
>Damn man, you rented the entire cinema for that level of projection

But that's a rite of passage on 4chan, kid. Everyone does it. Even you. The goal is to make sure everyone knows how UNIQUE and SPECIAL that YOU are, especially compared to the icky OTHER. This is especially shown whenever women are discussed, because admitting that you as a grown ass man still believe in cooties (ewwww, icky!) makes you ULTRA UNIQUE and SPECIAL!

>>21483207
It was your decision to consider the criticism as projection. Continue touchlessly absolving yourself. You are already lost.

>>21483201
>Turns out its not that i need to be more assertive, i straight up have to be evil to get anything in this world. And i cant do that really.
you sure you're not just saying that because you're lazy?

>>21483189
>like when >>21481501 said he owned a small island nation. Obviously, he doesn't. He can't provide proof of it, nor will he. But he doesn't have that much of a life, so he has to pretend in the hopes of impressing people, people he'll never meet, but nevertheless exist, so that he can function.

>>21483218
Fuck I love pussy.

>>21483266
>Continue touchlessly absolving yourself.
the fuck does this even mean

>>21470560
>you lame faggot
You're a winner who likes to brutally abuse the weak. Nice. Doesn't answer the OP's question.

>>21464164
Just now that it is not over, it is never over.
Read Don Quixote.

>>21483296
I finished toughest college in my country.
That being said, its all a scam. Its never enough- you need to pass, then you need an A, then you need to network, then you need to "work" no one makes money working. Money is made scheming and whatever the fuck, i dont know how money is made but it ceartainly isnt by work.
So you cant trick me on that one
That being said i do plan on working and when i worked in the past i did honest to God work cause Gods command is to work- but absolutely no one appreciates that

>>21483081
>Pretend to be NEET
Nigga, stop with your bullshit projection, fuckin hell.

>>21483163
lol no

>I find it hilarious that you must regard yourself as that character played by Colin Firth.
I don't know who "that character" is. It's just some random pic in my reaction folder you fag

>>21481490
Culturology

This r9k thread is still going strong ha

>>21474152
It sounds like you have severe gut issues, anon. Your stomach issues are causing your depression, not the other way around. Research nutrition and gut health to change things around.

>>21481501
year right, i believe you anon