/lit/ - Literature

>>21357384
>omg the demiurge is so cool with its pretty trees and lake! I’ll go and enjoy it!
>hi Mr. Bear!

>>21357384
There's not one square foot in that picture in which something is not suffering, getting crushed or crushing something to survive.
However I don't mind, it's nothing compared to what I would do to (you) if I was in charge.

Though not gnostic, I believe this quote to be fitting.

>>21357384
Nature is only considered as something worth living for in times were your every need is readily provisioned and you no longer need to be connected to the body of men to find yourself feed, clothed and with money in your pocket. Someone who leaves their airconditioned home on the weekend and drives to the national park for a hike can tell themselves that nature is beautiful and everything else is ugly, but that is because they are so far above nature and so utterly unconnected with it that it is nothing but a pretty vista to them- their interactions are purely superficial, they are nothing more than a visitor to an art gallery.

Why would that be weird? Christianity is all about whining and sighing and feeling sorry for yourself.

In fact, it's pretty clear that 4chan Christianity is just a continuation of pathetic self pitying inceldom

>oh Lord have mercy on such a pathetic sexless sinner like me!
>oh woe unto me oh my!
>oh but I guess I just deserve it! Put that crown of thorns of Mild Criticism on my head! OWOOOOWWOW!
>Let me carry the cross of Minimal Expectations! OH LORD! IT'S SO HEAVY!
>Oh woe, are you feeling sowwy for me yet? Sowwy enough for a pityfuck?

Fuck you

>>21357384
>95% of humans are in a constant state of hunger, fear, rage and general despair
>but look at the heckin pretty hills and clouds :) omg life is so beautif-AAAAAACK

>>21357417
amazing image brother

>>21357485
Holy shit you're retarded. At least you tried.

>>21357384
What you are looking for is Hermetic Internal Alchemy. Its literally Gnosticism but with the idea of the demiurge being something we need to escape to being something we need to transmute out relationship towards. One of the basic tenants of the Hermetic cosmology is that turning away from the demiurge is turning away from light and life (because that is what it is made from / embodies) and internal alchemy is the practice of turning toward it instead (read symbolically of course. though practice does help to make the symbolic teaching more concrete in the individual psyche, like the ritual aspect of mysticism).

>>21357901
No he didn't.

>>21357920
Oh I forgot the recs though. The corpus hermeticum (poimandres, asclepius and the emerald tablet of hermes trismagistus) for the hermetic cosmology and philosophy and the hermetic museum for the alchemical formuli.

>>21357384
>And to this world, to this scene of tormented and agonised beings, who only continue to exist by devouring each other, in which, therefore, every ravenous beast is the living grave of thousands of others, and its self-maintenance is a chain of painful deaths; and in which the capacity for feeling pain increases with knowledge, and therefore reaches its highest degree in man, a degree which is the higher the more intelligent the man is; to this world it has been sought to apply the system of optimism, and demonstrate to us that it is the best of all possible worlds. The absurdity is glaring.

Arthur Schopenhauer, The World as Will and Representation, Vol. 1

>>21357438
What is the remedy which gives an authentic experience of nature?

>>21357979
death

>>21357499
>Despair is bad
Ngmi

>>21358003
This is the only answer to any question regarding the interpretation of life. It is precisely death which necessitates life. We are alive because we must die.

>>21358049
You are a faggot.

>>21358003
>kills himself
>gets into Demiurge's "hell"
...yikes

How many demiurges are there? In which one(s) do the gnostics believe in? Gnosticism seems like quite the larp.

>>21357384
Gnosticism is a Semitic desert religion. I'd believe the world were flawed too if I were surrounded by sand and everyone around me looked like a rat-faced Jew.

>>21357421
Didn't know De Maistre to be so based

>>21357398
Getting mauled by a bear is beautiful as well

>>21357384
>OH MY GODDESS IS THAT A ROCK THAT LOOKS LIKE A FACE?? I HECKIN LOVE BEING ALIVE!!

>>21358286
This but unironically.

>>21357384
>>21357398
>>21357417
I think that speaks to what the earliest gnostics thought, that the demiurge created the world from a distant memory of perfection. Standing back it looks tranquil but if you examined it closely you would find carnage

>>21358305
Source?

>>21358478
the demiurge

>>21358305
>a distant memory of perfection
Beautiful brother

>life is suffering because... I DON'T HAVE LE GF!

>>21358550
>millions of animals aren't being eaten alive right now because unfuckable people get sad sometimes
Americans

>>21357499
checked and based

>>21358478
I read a book by some possible Jewess named Pagals that covered this a few years ago, I think it was just called “Gnostic Gospels”

>>21358550
this but unironically. why did the demiurge create genetic subhumans who only know suffering while others who are supposedly the same species win the genetic lottery and can greatly limit their suffering for no other reason than the way they look?

>>21357398
Become the bear and be master of this domain.
Slay the demiurge and take his place.

>>21357384
try living there for two months, not as a weekend escapade from city living, but truly live there for two months. without a cozy cabin, without clothes, without water purifiers and protein hiking bars. you will quickly realise it's not as beautiful as you claim. sure, it might beat wageslaving, or you might find a better experience than in the city, but suffering permeates every corner and burrough of that "ideal" landscape. the forest looks nice from afar but the moment you try to cross branches will rip through your skin. every living thing in that place is just bound by endless excess, each trying to consume and claim the totality of all biomass. you're nothing but an enemy to them, just more potentiality to devour and transform. it looks good, but it's certainly not perfection.

>>21357384
Easy

Because the Demiurge can only "create" by copying the higher realms, the beauty of the world is also of a derived character.

>>21358905
Sorry, wrong answer

Still, get a life op

>>21357398
Nice! Free food for my prehistoric tribe and to think we almost starved.

>>21358043
Despair is bad, but only because it feels good

>>21357384
>Mysticism is not essentially Christian. I would even say that in its final form it is more anti-Christian. I know that this will cause pain and anger in some circles. Yet when I look at the Bible I find hardly any examples of mystics. Paul alludes to his own experience; he knew a man who was lifted up to the seventh heaven, and he could not say whether this was with or without the body. But he was not intentionally seeking union with God. he did not engage in a movement of ascent. He was caught up or taken up by an external force like the chariot of fire that catches up Elijah or the hand of God that lifts up Daniel. nothing more. We find prophets in the old testament and apostles in the new. In the enumeration of spiritual gifts there is no mention of mystical gifts. We are told to imitate Jesus Christ but not to achieve union with God by a mystical ascent. When the apostles are invested with spiritual power, it is by tongues of flame that come down from heaven. There is no question of union with God. Jesus alone is in total union with God. such union is brought about by the fact that God comes (down) to us, not by our spiritual intensity or psychological action or by any attempt to climb up to him. The idea of a possible union with God is ruled out by the revelation of cherubim guarding against any return to Paradise. As I have often said, there is no possible ascent to God, or access to him. But this is what mystics passionately seek. They want union with God. They have discipline. They follow a path to the inner void where the soul is filled by the holy spirit and access opens up to God. This is the exact opposite of what the Bible teaches. The antithesis is even more radical if one accepts the common etymology whereby “mystic” comes from muein, to be mute or speechless. How can this be when God’s work is wholly that of the Word? God himself speaks, and he calls upon us to bear witness by the Word. There could hardly be a greater contradiction. In fact all mystical experiences are ineffable, and Paul is totally against anything of this kind. If we follow Jesus, it is not a matter of looking up to heaven (“Why do you look up to heaven?” etc.) but of being on earth and concretely living out the will of God that was done in Jesus Christ.

>>21357398
Fpbp

>>21357384
The Quran

>>21358151
There is generally only one demiurge for the gnostics. Also, the view of the demiurge depends on which gnostic group you mean. The most well known group were the Valentinians, who associated the demiurge with the Yahweh of the old testament, and the one true perfect God as the one who sent Jesus.

>>21358848
How do I do this? I wanna become truly evil

>>21357421
maistre would have loved Accursed Share

>all things are delightful to see, but dreadful to be.

Thanks you Schoppy for your irrefutable wisdom /thread

How many indivduals animals are there in the world?

>The Best Estimate This can be written as 20 quintillion, or 20 billion billion.


IMAGINE THE SUFFERING

>>21359388
follow the footsteps of Adam Lanza (pbuh) what his youtube videos

You make realization in adolescence and then you just kinda accept it for what it is without having to contain it in some autistic sandbox mental framework and get used to it and over it with age

>>21358899
>dude just live unnaturally nature won't be so great then!
Yeah nigger, if I was a wild animal I'd live with a pack on my relatives like a chimp. Do you really think ancient man was a lonely loser like yourself?
>the branches will rip your skin
You should run up against some pine needles sometime, but if they rip your skin you have a serious medical condition. God damn your post is so fucking retarded. Read a fucking book and stop watching Herzog clips.

>>21360311
Is that good?

>>21357384
Most people simply can't handle the rather bored affair that is objective reality. Most people remain infantile their entire lives. They desire above all else to view the world in a totalistic/impassioned/them-centered manner. All that people like the Gnostics do is craft an elaborate and completely baseless story about the world that just so happens to place themselves as significant actors. The actual story of the world consists of bland physical interactions, and there is absolutely nothing special about you. You are just as novel and meaningful as another combination of interactions in the Universe. People like to believe that Gnosticism is greater than other religious and spiritual doctrines because it replaces unwarranted optimism with unwarranted pessimism, but all they are ultimately doing is committing to a different side of the childish and primitive way of viewing existence.

>>21360234
This guy has a quote for everything

>suffering is... LE BAD even doe you're a selfish little fuck who can't stop sinning and your sins caused the greatest man on earth to suffer incalculable pain and torment in this life and did descend for 3 days into hell (infinite pain) for no crime of his own

>>21361074
yawn, tedious roach

>>21361100
You're a sad, spiteful little schizophrenic.

If you decide that life isn't worth living because pain is... LE BAD, then the logical next step is to kill yourself. Any gnostic who doesn't follow through with it is a pussy for refusing to commit to their beliefs, or they secretly realize but refuse to admit the ridiculousness of their worldview.

>>21358587
Shut up Pierre.

>>21361430
if you just an hero like a faggot you'll simply respawn with a memory wipe to serve as the demiurge's walking garmonbozia buffet bar again and again
overcoming the illusory veil of the archon's tricks requires self-mastery through a lifetime of ascetic spiritual practice. this is something most internet "gnostics" fail to grasp or commit to.

>>21358899
So Gnosticism is just finding all the possible flaws with something in a hypothetical scenario? Very cool

>>21357958
Schopenhauer, with the value he places on aesthetics, is near enough the worst example you could have given of someone refuting this

>>21358258
De Maistre was incredibly based.

Why are there so many subsects that are considered Gnostic (Manichaeism, Mandaeism) even though they have nothing to do with the Demiurge? Just because they're about secret knowledge and hating matter?

>>21360940
you haven't lived in the woods and you would die if you tried. you're coping mr. survivalist chad.

>>21357384
We're social. We've overcome nature together. Then we started consuming our own kind for no good reason and have unarguably created this hellscape you refuse to see. The demiurge is a dick.

>>21357421
But what he describes is beautiful. Gnostic version would be some coping.

>>21357398
If life sucks so much then why do you loathe death?

>>21361608
Because they still have to do with the idea of gnosis being the way to go, they just disagree to why. The demiurge is not as primary to gnostic thought as gnosis.

>>21357421
literally describes aztec cosmogony

"OH MY GOD IS THAT A MOUNTAIN AND SOME HECKIN TREES, I GUESS HUMAN SUFFERING DOESNT EXIST NOW"

"OH MY GOD IS THAT SOME HECKIN HUMAN SUFFERING, I GUESS MOUNTAINS AND TREES DONT EXIST NOW"

>>21362266
>retard tries to dunk on gnosticism
>just affirms it instead
innumerable such cases

>>21362268
who was trying to dunk on gnosticism?

>>21357499
This, but unironically

>>21358305
Do you guys actually take the fact that shit like bears exist to be evidence of the world being evil? What kind of fu fu pussy bullshit world do you even want?

>>21357958
>and in which the capacity for feeling pain increases with knowledge, and therefore reaches its highest degree in man, a degree which is the higher the more intelligent the man is.
I think animals are the ones that suffer the most in this world by immeasurable difference.

>>21357384

ya gnostic niggas gotta get a grip, shits crazy. What do you think youre going to do kill the demiurge?? nigaa you mortal, calm it down, smell the roses and enjoy what you can

>>21357499
I think people who are suffering underestimate how genuinely tranquil the average person is. Most people have never even considered suicide for example.

>>21362367
>Most people have never even considered suicide for example.
Bullshite, everyone do this

>>21362367
Everyone has considered suicide. It's the coolest!

>>21362368
>>21362372
They literally don’t. Not only this, but the idea that suicide could be preferable to any conceivable situation is deeply offensive to them.

>>21362377
They literally do! Lets keep making baseless blanket statements to distract ourselves from the fact that life is just so damn rad (even though in doing so we acknowledge the fact that it is not as rad as this totally meaningless conversation. Because, if we believed it was, why wouldn't we just carry on living instead?)

>>21357979
Get lost in the park because you accidentally take the wrong trail and your phone battery dies. Then you will see the true face of nature, and you will probably not live to speak of it.

>>21362383
Have you never talked to normies about suicide? I’m not making any statement about the actual value of existence. To me subjectively it is without a doubt a bad thing. All I’m saying is that you underestimate how well equipped the average person is in dealing with it.

>>21362394
Oh shit. When you said people I didn't think you meant normies. Yeah, I dont claim to know how AI thinks. My bad anon.

>>21357438
Retard take most of prehistoric art is a representation of nature, humans have always loved nature and found it beautiful. Nature was our home, how could you not love your home? If nature isn’t worth living for then why did humans keep on living when nature was all we had?

>>21362428
I wonder when those cave men made those drawings. Im willing to bet it was when they were fed, hydrated, healthy and stuck in their cave waiting for daybreak so that they could at least see the predators coming to rend their flesh.

I am probably the only one in this world who cannot perceive the beauty of the world. Therefore Gnosticism seems to me and still seems fucking retarded to me

>>21361315
I’m a happy, loving big autist albeit

>it wasn’t my sins that make the earth hell, ok? That might make me self reflect on my life and realize I need a savior and he did come and I need to repent! No it was some big evil demiurge who did this, and I can achieve gnosis by jerking off all day in my room while reading Wikipedia articles and escape this hellscape!

>>21362575
How does it feel to have reached Gnosis anon? I bet its pretty cozy.

>>21360972
it just is

>>21362629
But should it be though?

>>21362622
I have achieved true knowledge, not the gay “gnosis” from the “gnosi”tics, and you can achieve it too by repenting off your ways and following Christ

>>21362932
Why does evil exist?

>>21362443
Incredible that you honestly can't comprehend how utterly paradoxical it is to say that the risk of death makes life not worth living. Maybe you could achieve divine perfection by living in a bubble like bubble boy. A perfect life would be awful because it would be over as soon as it started. What's the point in living if you're just following predetermined motions like a TV show you already know the ending to?

If you like perfection so much then you should delete all the music from your phone and listen to pure mathematical sine waves instead. Harmony and rhythm make good music, but great music has texture, noise, dissonance and groove.

>>21362932
yawn kys

>>21363031
Didnt say anything about the risk of death. The acts of starving, dehydrating, being ill and being malled by wild animals are all very unpleasant and, I would argue, inflict much suffering on the one experiencing those things. Those who don't take care to eliminate those things from their lives dont have much time for artistic indexers. See Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

>>21362341

Not a chance, humans suffer much more than other animals

>>21363178
>physiological need
>reproduction

Nope.

>>21363178

>>21362341
It depends. Some animal's existence are pure Hell, from one point to the other. Urban foxes are a good example. Life expectancy of 1 1/2~2 years (in nature they usually reach 6-7), which they spend in an environment similar to being in the trenches in WWI, not a single autopsy of urban foxe in London ever showed up a fox without multiple fractures on some if not all of its legs.
But for one, these lives are usually much shorter than ours. I can't think of a single animal with a comparable lifespan to ours that could be conceptualized to be suffering constantly.
For two, it seems undeniable that Man can show both more sensibility and more stoicism toward the events which are sources of suffering, and toward suffering itself. Man can be crushed by something ridiculous like bad grades and jump of the school roof, or he can run under gunfire and artillery shelling to go grab some kid he doesn't even know because that's just what a Man does.
The difference expresses that only Man can truly act, that only him is capable of actual action, and not mere adaptation to the environment. The moral core of Humanity is irreducible and yes, it involves a certain sensibility to suffering that animals cannot by principle have.
We have a special relationship to suffering which other animals do not. I don't think its fair to say that we suffer more than them, or less than them, we do it differently. Their lack of free-will and representational capacities forces them into a role of perpetual victims of suffering, while ours forces us in the uneasy role of judge, jury and executioner.

>>21363243
they didn't know about you yet when they made the graph

>>21363301
I've been thinking about this a lot recently. We lost the dog recently. He had lived and full life and was unwell. After taking him to the Vet after he stopped eating we were told one of his organs was failing and to bring him after the weekend on Monday to put him to sleep. I suppose the idea was to give him a few days to see if he'd start eating again or something.
Naturally come Sunday night, we leave him in his favorite bed in his favorite spot before going to sleep. We wake up and he's no one to be found, he had slipped out the back gate and we never found him again. Naturally we were all racked with sadness and guilt. The biggest cause of my sister's suffering was naturally the image in her mind that the dog was out in a bush in the cold night, whimpering in pain and mental anguish that his family had abandoned him in his final moments. While there is the other perspective that the dog's natural instincts took over, realized his death was near, and to separate himself from the pack as a matter of "natural duty".
I don't know maybe he just became delirious, went out to use the bathroom, got lost and was hit by a car or picked up by someone. Unlikely given our location. Anyways it has me thinking a lot about the way animals perceive reality. I wonder if there any good books around this subject. I miss my dog a lot anons, hopefully he's up there in Heaven stealing cat food.

>>21363270
Saved. Thanks schizanon

>>21363353
kek

>>21363243
I think that, if given the option, even you would take pussy over an easel and some paints.

>>21361459
That’s basically what Plotinus believed ironically. One of his problems was that Gnostics believed that Jesus was going to help them out, and if Jesus really is God and really was going to help them after they died, how could he be stopped? Therefore it’s better to just kill yourself. Plotinus is also far more pessimistic than the Gnostics, because they believed that the world was created and would eventually end, while Plotinus believed it would continue forever.

>>21363391
>hopefully he's up there in Heaven stealing cat food.
He is, anon, he is.
He knew his end was coming. Death unites us all, humans and beasts, but we do not relate in the same way to it. He felt it more natural to seek a lonely spot where his remains could not bring more suffering to those he loved. In comparison dying in a vet's office would be horror, and your presence would be but a slight comfort.

>>21363178
Prehistoric man lived comfortably enough from nature to make art though so what's your point? "You're not experiencing nature unless you're being actively mauled to death" is a pretty stupid argument.

>>21361483
way to miss the point you fucking nigger ape

>>21357421
Man is just a carnivorous ape. Man has lust for violence because all carnivorous apes without lust for violence were Darwin'd. Ultimately man is beholden to same laws of nature as everything else, which ultimately boil down to basic laws of physics such as energy conservation or entropy. Anyone having complaints about violence should be complaining to whoever was setting these laws to work like they do in our reality.

>>21363741
Why can't I get a gf then?

>>21357485
Nah fuck you time traveler, go deal with the big boys rather than inflating your own ego

>>21357384


Whoever made that image is a moron, and so are you.


The principles of nature are limited to, and the facets of nature terminate in, theological primacy —in this consists ordered evil—; the stranded biospirit becomes syntheotically accordiated via the protektion of the strong logosmind, culminating in theological ultimacy —in this consists ordered good—; however, this does not, nor should it, preclude the due benevolent influence of bios through one's symbiosis with nature.

The gnostic regards the world, as a whole, as an excape, not as a hellscape, and knows that one cannot escape it, but may convert oneself through it, transcending it by performing one's alloted repatching of its scape, thus adding one's rendition of it to one's rational texture, and virtuous architexture —one's inscape.

>>21363919
>[...] [to] one's inscape.

>>21359336
!

>>21363741
>Man has lust for violence because all carnivorous
We are equally close to chimps (warlike) and bonobos (hoelike). Man materially is defined as a midpoint between Eros and Thanatos. Its the one thing Freud got right.

>>21362367
I saw a study which said that 50% of failed suicide attempts had only considered suicide for 2 hours.
2 measly hours and they impulsively done it.

Normies don't think about suicide but it will think about them whenever their girlfriend dumps them or they get fired from work.

>If you like perfection so much then you should delete all the music from your phone and listen to pure mathematical sine waves instead. Harmony and rhythm make good music, but great music has texture, noise, dissonance and groove.

Imagine comparing pointless suffering without respite to get this: dissonance and groove. Leibniz does this with his best of all worlds nonsense: 'A little acid, sharpness or bitterness is often more pleasing than sugar'

You people live in a world of make believe are you are fearful to face bitter reality. I bet you like having fun, retard.

>>21357398
lmoo the lady getting attacked by a bear webm would be so timely rn

>>21363270
kek

You don't even need gnostic books to refute that, just Schopenhauer

>>21362428
Nature was meaningful to them because they had a meaningful connection to it for their very existence that Homo domi, "work from home man," has lost. More than that, you are looking at cave art like it's a Romantic landscape portrait. Did its artist want to inspire his viewers with the power and splendor of the auroch or the wild horse? Or was he praying for a successful hunt that would see his people fed? Impossible to tell, though one seems to me more likely than the other when you only see the animals that they hunted or overcome, not the mountain peaks, the dark forest, the crashing waves. You take the assumption that man has always held the same sterilised view of nature as a beautiful vista to be surveyed by his Olympian eye, a pretty picture.

>>21357421
Which of his books is this from?

>>21364497
>pointless suffering without respite
Lmao. Even people who are in far shittier situations than you don't live in complete suffering,
>I bet you like having fun, retard.
Yes, I do

>>21358240
Lmao, probably the truth as well

>>21357384
Unironically Stirner

>>21363178
Are you fat by any chance?

>>21357384

>the world is pretty, thus it is good
>bears exist, thus the world is evil
I haven't laughed this hard in a while, don't know how I missed this thread

>>21358587
why does this make the world a bad place? I sincerely don't care.

>>21357384
>if demiurge bad why good thing happen
wow gnosticism btfo

>>21357421
de Maistre is top tier.

Can’t be bothered to find if, but he has another one about authority. Something like “you don’t ask the sun why it shines. You know it does, and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

The sins of the guilty must be forgiven by the blood of the innocent

>>21358240
This but unironically.

>>21362937
Evil is the lack of good. Darkness has no independent existence.

See Job, Plotinus, Augustine

>>21366834
The greatest trick the demiurge ever played was convincing the world that he did not exist
Nice try demiurge

>>21362334
Lol sirah its not “bears exist therefore evil” its a response to why a supposedly benevolent and all loving creator would allow for an animal that must survive by brutally eviscerating other animals to exist. For that matter, anything violent or cruel.

>>21366840
The matter and form of “evil” exists, but it exists like a shadow exists. It’s the twisted reflection of good.

The devil can not create, he can only corrupt

>>21366849
Violence exists because of the Fall. It exists because man thought he could master reality better than God. This world is what we get for our hubris

>>21357398
Bears are friends, if you know how to treat them

>>21357421
>de Maistre
President Sunday has a great vid on how he's really just a pseud

>>21366878
If this is true than the creator of which you speak cannot be benevolent or omnipotent.

>>21366871
If evil is predicated on lack, then we should not expect to find it in man, who lacks the least of God's creations. Anyways, I hope you outgrow privatio boni.

>>21362168
Because you're hard wired to fear the end of your consciousness.

Life sucks and death sucks and there's no inbetween.

>>21366878
Why should one man's lapse in judgement drag down the rest of the animal kingdom with him? What a ridiculous notion. Human evil is a subset of cosmic evil, not the other way around.

>>21357979
Actual, true nature is evil, cruel, depraved

>>21366909
Man is the nigger and the Jew of creation. Plotinus was right when he said that the cosmos is better than man.

>>21362555
Retarded fuck, it is the opposite.

>>21366931
It's the other way around for the Gnostics. Man is ethically superior to creation. Job is greater than God.

>>21366957
>Man is ethically superior to creation
And as this thread proves, the gnostikoi were wrong.

>>21366943
Cope, nigger

>>21365244
St Petersburg Dialogues, his most chud work

>>21366920
BRAAAAAAPP

>>21366920
Good, evil, just, cruel, chaste, depraved have no meaning apart from human beings. They are imputed judgements that only human beings make and can understand. The real issue, the "hard problem of ethics" if you will is just that, why human beings are capable of ethical thought at all.

>>21367063
Spinoza was a disaster for philosophy

>>21367091
Spinoza is pretty much the only philosopher who deserves the title of philosopher, and is miles better than /pol/ midwit nazi retard of the week

>>21358550
>abject isolation is nothing to get upset about because it doesn't personally affect me.
Cluster B strikes again!

>>21365649
No. What makes you think so?

>>21363730
I lost the point a while ago. I was just replying to kill time at the job I hate. My original post was just a thought I had. Honestly I dont even see how I got a response out of it.

>>21366920
>this le elephant is picking another elephant's asshole, therefore gnosticism is true
Reddit is not sending their best

>>21367119
It must be blissful to be so naive. You gonna tell me about Jung next?

>>21366916
It’s not one man, it’s Man. Consciousness as a totality chose this

>>21366892
The benevolence of God may differ from our conception of benevolence.

A child considers eating candy for every meal benevolence, and having nutritious food evil.

Job 38-40

>>21363031
>What's the point in living if you're just following predetermined motions like a TV show you already know the ending to?
You're implying that motivation can only develop when danger is a real possibility. Are you sure about this?

>>21357384

Tangentially related but what are the best books that refute Camus's work?

>>21367213
Then tell us why Spinoza is still remembered after a few centuries, while all your cringe shit 'philosophers' will inevitably be thrown in the dusbin of history, o wise sage

Or are you telling me that in 500 years we'll all get taught about resentful incel grifter #3409?

>>21366920
What's wrong with this webm? Honestly, just think about it with an open mind. It's literally a men only concept that which shit is something "depraved". It's literally organic matter that can be a fertilizer also.

>>21367814
Exactly, anon

>>21366657
The fact that you don't care has nothing to do with anything, really. Really far away to be called an argument

>>21363270
Isn’t Yaldobaoth just some SCP character?

>>21366885
>that ass grab
You just know.