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21035175 No.21035175 [Reply] [Original]

Feudalism is just a welfare state. Your 3000 word replies about it are bullshit.
Fascism is also just a welfare state. Your 3000 word replies about it are bullshit.

>> No.21035308

>>21035175
Welfare states are good.

>> No.21035421

>>21035175
The state is a welfare state

>> No.21035511

>>21035175
Your mom is a welfare state and also the size of one and also gay

>> No.21035600

>>21035175
Is there a bigger version?

>> No.21035617

>>21035600
Literally google it

>> No.21035623

>>21035175
>/lit/-literature

>> No.21035625

>>21035617
But they won't have the 4chanisms

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>>21035175
What is the point of a state if not the welfare of its people?

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/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

>> No.21035754

>>21035175
>his academics won’t mark 5000wd papers

Cheated.

>> No.21035766

>>21035175
Literature?

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>>21035175
The free market and libertarian politics will only hasten the destruction of your nation, your land, your people, your culture and your future.

>> No.21035926

>>21035703
The state is supposed to benefit the elites only. It's just the armed extension of business to keep the cattle from impeding them. What kind of state fixates on the welfare of cattle? Totally backwards.

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>>21035926
The National-Socialist State has as its prime raison d'etre, it's reason for being, the full improvement of the racial stock from aristocracy, to the soldier, to the worker, to the farmer. Loyalty flows up and down.

>> No.21036198

>>21035703
the welfare of a its rulers

>> No.21036553

>>21035703
You must be 18 or over to post here.

>>21036077
This changes nothing. This variety only applies an impossible task, but actually it’s just an excuse to invade and torture/murder civilians for being Other. It’s still just an elitist supporting state.
You must be 18 or over to post here.

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>THE MADMAN ACTUALLY DID IT
kek I was memeing

>> No.21036607

>>21035175
It's a welfare state in the sense that its primary concern is the welfare of those at the top, yes.

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>>21036553
>This variety only applies an impossible task
The end result is unachievable, correct. But the struggle and the journey towards improvement is the actual goal.

>actually it’s just an excuse to invade and torture/murder civilians for being Other
By your rational, if you are OP, you view every state as thusly. You are wrong of course, at the most fundamental level.

>It’s still just an elitist supporting state.
All states support the elite, the aristocracy, the societal organizers, that is what allows them to manipulate and guide the States they are part of. If they need worry about supporting themselves fully, they are unable to direct attention to the matter of Statesmanship.

>You must be 18 or over to post here.
Your fixation with children suggests you are on the far-left.

>> No.21036994

>>21035918
Why?

>> No.21037001

>>21036994
>why is a car with no brakes bad?

>> No.21037029

>>21036976
1.
>A fake task to distract the plebs
2.
Yes, every state will do this to one degree or another. That’s what makes fascism a fraud. A liberal deception. Hugo Boss and Giorgio Armani suites anyone? Not wrong in any way shape or form. It’s all in the degree, the severity.
3.
Zzzzzzz
4.
I want the moronic nazi fag to leave. That’s not a fixation
Thanks for the reply. Bye now, nazifag

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>>21037029
>A fake task to distract the plebs
Nazi Germany dominated the Berlin Olympics, scoring a great percentage of all medals than any other nation, with not one single nation boycotting, despite all the talks. Their entire social program was vindicated by these results. Keep in mind this was before any of the great superpowers lost their best and brightest during the brutality of World War 2. Health improved, vitality improved, everything improved. While now we are more unhealthy, fatter, slower, less educated, poorer, less competent and are dying earlier for the first time in history.

>Yes, every state will do this to one degree or another. That’s what makes fascism a fraud. A liberal deception. Hugo Boss and Giorgio Armani suites anyone? Not wrong in any way shape or form. It’s all in the degree, the severity.
Fascism is liberalism? I can not possibly understand how you arrive at this. Fascism is the firm imposition of hierarchy. Liberalism is the rejection of this, among other things.

>Zzzzzzz
This is why people are taking an interest in NS, because you are unable to counter or refute the ideas and values raised inside. Without resorting to ad-hominen, fallacies, slurs and derailing the argument.

>I want the moronic nazi fag to leave. That’s not a fixation
The flag is gone, for good. But the ethos of what brought National-Socialism to Germany is right on the cusp of society once again. There is something fundamentally correct about it, that ethnic bonds mean something, that we need to labor towards a goal. That without aqueduct resistance and difficulty humanity will backslide.

>>21036994
Because it is partly the responsibility of the State, it being a firm representative of the people, to ensure that cultural practices are maintained. Each subsequent generation discards more until eventually all we are is consumers for the rich and powerful. Everything from family, to cultural traditions, social etiquette to basic manners all fall by the wayside.

It is an uncomfortable truth, but when accepted allows the needed actions to be realized. When enough people are at this point, the actions than be put in to motion through direct action. As it is not something that can be voted in to power, it requires the systematic dismantling of the national power structure we have. Regardless of what country it is tried in.

>> No.21037517

>>21037466
The easiest critique of Nazism is it isn't even a coherant ideology. They literally made shit up as they went along like the Schwartzsonne there.

It was really a reaction against socialism and liberalism. They attempted to replace class conciousness with class collaboration and class warfare with actual warfare, against imagined enemies, foriegn and domestic. When they tried to impliment these ideas in the real world, they got fucking clobbered. Lasted all of 15 years maybe and ruined the countries that tried it for probably 100 years after. Even worse than socialism.