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20797971 No.20797971 [Reply] [Original]

Which side is better?

>> No.20797978

>>20797971
Ligotti

>> No.20797981

The only speculative fiction I’m interested in is hegelianism

>> No.20797985

>>20797971
False dichotomy.

>> No.20797987

>>20797985
Choose.

>> No.20798003

>>20797987
Right has a better selection.

>> No.20798011

>>20798003
I agree, I like all sides but if I had to choose I rather have the authors on the right.

>> No.20798015

>>20797971
What is this based on? Their personal views or the message behind some of their works?

>> No.20798018

>>20797971
>china melville
>speculative fiction

>> No.20798049

>>20798015
Personal, but it will inevitably affect their works.

>> No.20798059
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20798059

What did she mean by this?

>> No.20798061

>>20797971
>the authors on my side are better
This will be the answer every time

>> No.20798062

>>20798059
Simply writing schlock does not make it speculative fiction

>> No.20798066

>>20798059
He hates bald people.

>> No.20798067

>>20798061
No, you can look at it objectively and who has better authors, I can clearly see good authors on either side, even though I don't agree with them.

>> No.20798068

>>20798066
Imagine reading books written by ugly, bald “people”

>> No.20798072

>>20798067
You can look at it objectively but I doubt many anons will

>> No.20798084

>>20797971
Why does EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING have to be designated "left-wing" or "right-wing"? This isn't fucking Pokemon where everything has to fit into this or that category

>> No.20798089

>>20798084
because a /pol/tard made the chart, what were you expecting.

>> No.20798091

>>20798072
Yeah most will choose their side and not even check the other side, but you can look at it objectively too.

>> No.20798115

>>20798089
Obsessed

>> No.20798126

>>20798084
Because that is how the /pol/cel and leftist see life

>> No.20798137

Imagine if Jack Vance, Frank Herbert and Poul Anderson actually built their writing retreat.

>> No.20798142

can someone name all of them for me

>> No.20798180

>>20798059
China is a faggot's name.

>> No.20798262

>>20797971
Just add Borges to the right side and be done with this debate.

>> No.20798267

>>20798084
Leftists like to congratulate themselves for having a monopoly on the arts even though they haven't made any good art in over half a century. Righties who are offended by this respond by making charts like this even thought they haven't made any art in three quarters of a century.

>> No.20799996

>>20798015
>poltard feels insecure
>poltard enjoys phantasy books
>makes a shitty chart: puts good/hot authors on "my team", put ugly/bad authors on "their team"

>> No.20800010

>>20799996
>Asimov is a bad author
It is what it is, pal. Right wing authors excel at SF.

>> No.20800021

>>20797971
directionbrain

>> No.20800023

>>20800021
>political spectrum is le bad!

>> No.20800033

>>20800023
That's correct.

>> No.20800037

>>20800033
>t. faggot too cowardly to choose a side

>> No.20800248

Ligotti is right wing

>> No.20800254

All good art is right wing.
Ligotti is definitely right wing, and he basically spent his life writing Americana.
Asimov, if he were alive, would have been canceled 100 times over -- and would basically be considered a right wing extremist.

>> No.20800260

>>20800248
>>20800254
I am like Ligotti but I don't know why the fuck he came out as a socialist as a moral nihilist

>> No.20800263

>>20800260
*I like

>> No.20800275

>>20798267
kek, very well put

>> No.20800290

>>20800260
His art and philosophy are both right wing, implicitly.
He may have fallen prey to the Schopenhauerian instinct that seems to befall pessimists from time to time:
> For the world is Hell, and men are on the one hand the tormented souls and on the other the devils in it. . . . from this point of view, we might well consider the proper form of address to be, not Monsieur, Sir, mein Herr, but my fellow-sufferer, Socî malorum, compagnon de miseres! This may perhaps sound strange, but it is in keeping with the facts; it puts others in a right light; and it reminds us of that which is after all the most necessary thing in life – the tolerance, patience, regard, and love of neighbor, of which everyone stands in need, and which, therefore, every man owes to his fellow.

>> No.20800318

>>20798142
Left: R. Scott Bakker - Joe Abercrombie - Patrick Rothfuss - Steven Erikson - George R. R. Martin - Ursula LeGuin - Laird Barron - Michael Moorcock - Isaac Asimov - Thomas Ligotti - China Mieville // Right: Robert Jordan - Vox Day - Robert E. Howard - Brandon Sanderson - J.R.R. Tolkien - Karl Edward Wagner - Fritz Leiber - Robert Heinlein - Gene Wolfe - Edgar Rice Burroughs - E.R. Eddison - Frank Herbert - H.P. Lovecraft - Terry Goodkind

>> No.20800327

>>20800290
>His art and philosophy are both right wing, implicitly.
I agree. Pessimism is a blatantly reactionary philosophy, maybe the most radical opposition to humanist progressivism.

>He may have fallen prey to the Schopenhauerian instinct that seems to befall pessimists from time to time:
Hmm, I can see that. There's a split between them, Cioran, Caraco, Michelstaedter were right wing.

>> No.20800336

Not on the OP pic but I like Dashiell Hammett even though he was a literal communist.

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20800346

>>20797971
>No Pratchett
Shit selection by OP.

>> No.20800362

>>20800336
a LITERAL comunist? I'm about to faint....

>> No.20800367

>>20800318
Define "right"
Define "left"

>Right:
>Robert Heinlein
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein#Sexual_issues
Wasn't he the guy who advocated sexual liberation, free love and strong women?

>Left:
>R. Scott Bakker
Wasn't he the guy who got into conflict with feminists and compared them to fundamental islamists?
https://rsbakker.wordpress.com/2014/10/09/confessions-of-a-demon/
"The moral reasoning of Islamic State radicals is the moral reasoning of Christian Fundamentalists is the moral reasoning of Feminists is the moral reasoning of Environmental Activists. Demons focus the attention, provide the organizing principle for some kind of recuperative or retributive action."

>> No.20800372

>>20797971
>>20800367

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20800455

>>20800367
Don't try to reason with directionbrains, it's like talking to a chatbot, the moment you say something slightly complex they shit their pants.

>> No.20800465

>>20799996
>hot
Where? All of them are unsightly

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>>20800455

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20800481

>>20800367
>>R. Scott Bakker
Wasn't he the guy who got into conflict with Trump and called him a bigot?

>> No.20800489

>>20800481
hes canadian he cant help it

>> No.20800493

>>20800489
fair enough

>> No.20800534

>>20797971
speculative fiction is a really broad and trashy category but i do occasionally enjoy asimov, heinlen, harlan ellison and arthur c clarke

>> No.20801122

When Lovecraft wrote Robert E Howard's obituary he said he was a liberal and a great friend to the nigger's cause it's in all of the random house editions of Howard's work why is he on the right is the guy who made this a nigger? Niggers always niggerify me with terror. It's a sad world. GOYSLOP!