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Yeah Jung is Satanic.

>>20769947
Look at that smile. He knew exactly what he was doing.

>>20769989
Was Freud satanic? Imo Freud was a genuinely good dude, his self-consciousness (mostly about his Jewishness and a few other things) pointing to his Humility and lack of Pride

>>20769947
From Richard Wolins "Seduction of Unreason", worth the read but skip the part where he talks about contemporary politics

>>20770035
cont

>>20770035
>>20770045
holy shit, this is some strong stuff against Jung

>>20770045
ill post the conclusion to the chapter too

>>20770059
I also recommend reading "The Jung Cult" by Richard Noll
tl:dr Jung really wanted to create a new religion, and unironically the "new age distortion" of Jung isn't actually that far away from his original ideas
Otto Gross also influenced him heavily and turned him into a sexual deviant

>>20770045
So there is a high chance that a crazy institutionalized negroe read theosophical texts about ancient religions in 1907? Bullshit

>>20770018
lol didn't he charge the equivalent of 20k a month on therapy while admitting to sneak in naps during therapy while the patient is unaware?

>>20770067
>So there is a high chance that a crazy institutionalized negroe read theosophical texts about ancient religions in 1907?
No but the guy that interpret his dreams as being like theosophical texts did

>>20770077
That is not whats there. He said the patient could have read such texts

>>20770068
>lol didn't he charge the equivalent of 20k a month on therapy
is that a lot or not for a month of therapy by Freud? he was the first proper therapist of his era mind you. it's like spending a month with Socrates or Aristotle

>>20770093
>>20770067
I think the argument is that the dreams and visions represented wrong interpretations of gnostic texts
Its like dreaming of Jesus being nailed to a chair instead of a cross and being stabbed with a sword instead of a spear, (while at the same time a text that describes Jesus being stabbed with a sword on a chair appeared, just for a different text to show up later telling how the previous text was a fabrication)

Jung helped me get over my neurosis. He and I seem to have very similar childhoods. I've heard a lot about how much of a prick he could be, and his relationship with women seems to be quite odd. From what I could tell, Jung didn't have much respect for women, even though they made up most of his disciples. They're adoration for him was almost cult-like, and this occasionally annoyed Jung enough for him to run away abroad. Other than that, he just fucked them. Can't hate on the fella that much.

>>20770275
was Jung the first pick-up artist?

now i realize. he unlocked the code of reality and used it for nefarious ways of hedonism (money, power, sex). ultimately he was Evil and unless he truly repented, he is burning in hell right now (erasure)

>>20769947
Only naive people think otherwise.

>>20769992
pic related

>ITT: Retards cope and seethe, because they got filtered by Jung.

>>20770018
Freud was Jewish so that doesn't need to be answered

>>20769947
Based Jung outjewing the jews. Immensely based

Psychiatric 'doctors' don't cure people. If you cure someone, they stop paying you.

>>20770059
If anything, Hegel is what's destroying the world right now

>>20770065
The author of that book must have been mentally retarded, and you must also be severly retarded if you believe it; every sentece reads like it was written by someone incapable of accepting what he wrote, and made therefore up some retarded lies to be able to cope.

Sincerly kill yourself. You will not be missed by anyone, in fact, people will celebrate your death.

>>20769947
>He didn't want to take her case because of his animus against her father.
What does that mean?

>>20770916
Jung hated kikes it seems.

>>20770916
Animosity retard. Animusity its a wordplay.

Also based thread and based excerpts

>>20770916
People used to not be afraid of naming the jew

>>20769947
You'll understand when you first enter into a romantic relationship with a woman.

So, Jung took advantage of an insanely rich jew who wouldn't leave him alone until he declared her sane?

Boy, how awful.

>>20770903
Kek, wrong. A philosopher? The culprit you're looking for is neither Freud nor Jung et al but Emile Durkheim oc

>>20770067
The guy who wrote the polemic is simply a psued who couldn't comprehend Jung himself as a man.

Jung was clearly exploring the personal unconscious, which is horrific in itself; nevermind the fact he was also plumbing the depths of the collective unconscious. It's a miracle of sheer will that he didn't end up ruling a country like a monarch.

>>20769947
>his animus against her father
Animus is present in a woman, according to Jung, so no, it was not his animus.

>You can overcome a lot of animus
You cannot. It's a part of you, according to Jung.

>Jungian therapy seems to have profoundly benefited Jung, but can anyone here point to a patient who was actually cured by his therapy?
No idea. Psychoanalysis in general gives you an opportunity to talk on and on. It may benefit you to some extend but it is not likely to bring about necessary transformation unless you take a step forward yourself. It's easy to walk around in circles.
Most notable examples of unsuccessful therapy for me are Woody Allen and Tony Sopranos.

>>20771198
Animus means enmity, retard.

>>20771202
It doesn't

>>20771207
Animus:

1.hostility or ill feeling.
"the author's animus toward her"

2.motivation to do something.
"the reformist animus came from within the Party"


The way in which the word is being used in the OP is easily confused with the Jungian animus, but isn't being used in that context. OP no doubt knows this and likes to confuse people.

>>20771219
That'd be like saying word nunnery means brothel because it was used to mean that during Shakespearian times.

It gave me excuse to get back to etymology, so there's that
https://www.etymonline.com/word/animus

>>20771017
Gene Wolfe = Schopenhauer + Chesterton

>>20771231
The passage was written post-victorian era, you colossal retardo

>>20770018
>reducing the human mind to the crudest instincts
I can see why some would call him satanic. He was also just wrong.

>>20770065
>I dont understand Jung so he is wrong

Jung did have influence and spawned a lot of retards and regressed in some ways but the man knew his stuff. pic related is a retard. anyone who accomplishes anything spiritually/mentally speaking always ends up deified, but it doesn't mean what they teach is wrong if the one cannot understand it. onus is on the individual to fathom their nature, and if they can't they only have themselves to blame

The Rockefellers are Jews?

>>20772047
>incredibly wealthy corrupt schemer turns out to be jewish
Surprise!

>>20772065
What's the source other than him being a piece of shit?
And don't get me wrong, I hate jews just as much as anyone else, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was just an ordinary burger piece of shit

>daughter of world richest man with massive agoraphobia
that's my ideal woman right there
just agoraphobia would be enough

>>20769989
You havent read Jung

>>20771312
How do you figure?

>>20770068
No he did not. Use your brain.

>>20772187
Jung wrote the red book with the help of a Spirit Guide he called Philemon and often conducted séances in pursuit of the secrets of the unconscious. Sounds pretty satanic to me.

>>20773274
It sounds divinely inspired to me.

Freud and Lacan also have terrible stories like this. Is all of psychoanalysis a grift?

>>20771984
These seem like plain lies on Jung's part.

>>20770065
Jordan Peterson is Jung's greatest victim today.

>>20769947
His biggest problem is his name belongs on a chinaman.

>>20771079
Kek, wrong. A sociologist?
See that doesn't mean anything. The world could be ruined by anyone whose retarded ideas get traction. Including (you).

>>20770045
>Even an institutionalized mental patient could pick up a Theosophical journal an ingest an occultist interpretation of the latest scholarship on Greek Magical Papyri
If that isn't satire then the author is also a mental patient and knows from experience.

>>20769989
So anything opposed to prurient sanctimony is satanic? Grow up.

>>20769947
Tons of Jung's patients were benefitted, but he just didn't care about the Rockefeller's except for their money.

>>20770035
>>20770045
>>20770059
This dude is just another example of someone seething over Jung and trying to 'disprove' him with the most extreme bias.

>>20773806
>whose retarded ideas get (sic) traction
Kek, and how pray is Hegel's scarcely read program on self-realization/actualization of 'spirit' (whether individual or absolute, or of whatever modes like 'state' that via language 'swell and die' in 'realms' intermediate) been *as* influential as Freud on sales, marketing, human relations in the West in general, or as Durkheim on modern legalism, the subsumption of powers by governments formerly connected to (owned by) religions, or as the bases, i.e. as the source of what's taken for granted, in all 'intellectual-style' conversations, discussions, debates, etc., as they're noised abroad at present? Speak of God, half the gallery laughs; speak of philosophy, a full four-fifths of the gallery sniggers; but speak in terms of 'society' and the gallery without thinking at all nonetheless becomes aware that whatever the discussion may be, it's on. Psychology and Sociology have provided levers (playbooks, excuses) for disciplines other than their own to facilitate the bulldozing of values that Philosophy spent millennia explicating, cosseting, defending. Nietzsche remains popular so far as 'self-valuing' is concerned (a disaster) but 'socially' (see?) non-influential. For all his dealing with 'the unconcious' Freud btw is nonetheless 'socially' explicit ('out there') in a way that Durkheim isn't, and yet the latter's been every bit as influential, if not more so. Unlike Freud, and certainly unlike Hegel, he's almost never questioned: primarily because we mistake him for /ourselves/.

>>20770018
Freud's patients kept revealing they were molested often by their parents. Rather than do something about this, addressing the problem, he instead inverted it to 'they wanted it.' He's a truly evil person.

>>20769947
>Jung
Who the fuck is Jung?

>>20774233
>Rather than do something about this, addressing the problem, he instead inverted it to 'they wanted it.'
proof?

>>20773882
Rockefeller's fuck the world up, then use their money to cure their own with top dollars. Nice.

>>20770900
>>20770432
Neither the Rockefellers nor Jung are Jewish

>>20770018
I think Freud is a genuinely good man. He seems compassionate and invested in the well being of his patients, refusing to reduce or ridicule the trauma and suffering they went through despite how hes sometimes presented. He made mistakes but he was pretty self aware of them, willing to reflect and better himself when they did happen. Genuine role model for even if he was wrong about a bunch of stuff.

>>20774233
This is a common narrative but its false. Freud at one point did begin to suspect some of the memories of molestation where fantasies, and in a private correspondence with his friend Fliess he gives a bunch of reasons why they might be fake, which is usually used as evidence that he tried to muffle these case up. But in fact in his actual publications, he lists these same reasons and debunks them one by one, instead insisting that the trauma of the patients is real. He only came to adopt oedipal fantasies as a genuine explanation much later after patients themselves began admitting they made them up, and even then insisted that they often still had their origin in genuine trauma.

>>20769947
why are there only 12 archetypes? why not an infinite number?

>>20775401
>>20775489
These are both generally correct, but Freud did have his fair share of mistakes and flaws. For example, his choice to analyze his own daughter, Anna, which included her, as a teenage girl, having to talk about her sexual fantasies to him, was horribly misguided; he didn't fuck her life up too bad, but still. He was also a pretty domineering figure throughout his career and, as he would be the first to admit, he would routinely grew very close to people only to then have a petty falling-out and burn bridges (Fleiss, Jung, many others).
But unlike Jung and Lacan, he wasn't a con-artist, he didn't manipulate his patients into sleeping with him, and he was always willing to change his ideas.

popped in to say this is a dogshit thread.

>>20776031
Jung manipulated his patients, and at that to sleep with him? Where do you get that from?

>>20769947
thats all you got lol?

>>20776069
from his dreams i guess

>>20772065
>Rockefellers
They aren't Jewish you fucking idiot. You're a retarded combination of confirmation bias and making shit up.

>>20775993
12 zodiacs, 12 archetypes.

Get a grip.

>>20776069
>>20776319
Sabina Spielrein. This is common knowledge.

>>20776776
> Famous psychoanalyst has love affair with groupie
> NOOO HE MANIPULATED HER INTO SLEEPING WITH HER

why are copetards like this

>>20776696
12 apostles. :)

>>20769947
>but can anyone here point to a patient who was actually cured by his therapy?
Stop being a complete fucking psued and look at the scientific literature. Psychotherapy is at least as effective as any modern treatment (including CBT and medication combined) and seems to have better long term success.

>>20773749
Peterson is his own victim. Needs to just go to church like Jung would recommend.

>>20769947
can you point to anything Jung did wrong?

>>20769947
You can't expect cure from psychoanalysis. What does this even mean, can you cure the human condition?
But I agree, he was kind of a hack. Other analysts had more integrity or honesty

>>20776901
She was his patient, and a deeply disturbed one. There is no code of ethics in which this is acceptable and you know it underneath all your obscurantist posturing.

>>20776939
>Other analysts had more integrity or honesty
Such as? Frankl? Rogers?

>>20775993
Who says there are only twelve?

>>20777202
No, those were too nice to help anyone. Freud was straightforward. Most good analysts tell what they see to your face once they are sure you're not in danger of collapsing

>>20772187
>>20773846
Advocating for the left-hand path is satanic. Saying this genuinely shouldn't be controversial, but of course you can't help but go out of your way to undermine the Catholic faith and propel yourselves to "Godhood" through Baphomet worship.

>>20777240
isn't 12 the standard amount? idk why 12. but 12 is associated with Jung.

>>20776925
No it isn't/doesn't. Psychoanalysis has never been demonstrated to be remotely effective, and is rightly regarded as a scam by the vast majority of practicing psychiatrists. The only meaningful therapy that can be termed truly effective is ABA, and only on ASD pts. You don't know what you're talking about. Freud, Jung and their coterie were primarily literary figures. They weren't Wundt. That's why their influence is felt exclusively in media analysis (Berger/Mulvey) and shit literature (Lawrence and Miller especially), not psychiatry.

>>20773726
Only because in your infinite hubris you see your body and soul as "divine", like all Luciferians before you.

>>20777408
You're extremely uninformed or an anglo

>>20777429
How so?

>>20771966
Wha, you saying there are sophisticated instincts? And weren't he the one who gave the most elaborate system for mind compared to all the other prominent fags of his time who gave a mono reductionist explanations?

>>20777415
>you see your body and soul as "divine"
Not at all. Stop projecting.

>>20776925
>Psychotherapy is at least as effective as any modern treatment (including CBT
That's only because of Lacan (PBUH)

CBT is applied Lacanist psychotherapy and psychotherapy is only hated because Lacan (PBUH) refutes the hyperreality of the Capital and show's that self-diagnosis and autotherapy is possible and this is a big no-no for Big Therapy

>>20777670
>psychotherapy
psychoanalysis*

>>20777670
>>20777673
>Lacan
Take your big other mirror-image bullshit elsewhere troon.

>>20777723
>troon.
nice character assassination attempt glowie but I'm a cis, straight white God-fearing Capital-hating Man

now kys, hylic

>>20777918
You're a tripfag, therefore effeminate and weak.

>>20777986
No, I'm just someone who realizes the strength of my doctrine and who realizes that there might be people who might claim to be me in the future.

>>20777145
None of us knows what happened exactly between Jung and Spielrein, stop being such a pretentious cunt.

>>20777408
>Psychoanalysis has never been demonstrated to be remotely effective
Psychoanalysis is recognized and paid for by any developed nation's health insurance and one of the only ways to treat deep psychological issues dating back to your childhood. You must be American or retarded, which is the same anyways.

> They weren't Wundt
Wundt had nothing to do with clinical psychology nor psychotherapy you fucking pseud lmao

> practicing psychiatrists
Psychiatrists are there to prescribe pills, therapy is done by psychologists or psychoanalysts. Nobody gives a fuck what psychiatrists say about psychotherapy because they are not relevant to that field. Besides that, psychiatrists THE group of professionals that's still heavily influenced by Freudian psychoanalysis and its terms

Jung was not a behavioral psychologist, and Rockefeller's daughter likely had no goddamn idea what she was talking about or who she should consult other than "Jung is le smart XDD"
Trying to turn her away was obviously not going to work and was likely to exacerbate her already failing mental state, so what was Jung supposed to do? Moreover, why do you imagine that Jung needed to prove his purity by living like an ascetic rather than benefitting from his professional career? What motivates your jealousy towards a dead man who had a retarded princess build him a castle?

>>20777994
>No
Yes you are, kek.
>who realizes that there might be people who might claim to be me in the future.
Narcissism, Cluster B symptom, therefore effeminate.

>>20778005
>deep psychological issues
As suspected, you're just a retard. Pick up a textbook sometime, maybe it'll help you polish off your pseudery. Therapy is done by...Therapists (LCSW), most psychologists are researchers, not clinicians. You know fuck all about the field.

One thing that should be noted is Jung was a handsome man
His sexual escapades might not have more to it than that

>>20778008
>confidence is effeminate
it's so easy for me to get Capital-slave hylics/glowies to contradict themselves and expose themselves as fools/malicious agents

>>20778131
Nta, but you're a loopy troon, maybe its time to find a good tree, eh?

>>20778110
Freud was more handsome yet more ethical. One does not preclude the other. Evil is a choice that's ultimately all up to you.

>>20778137
you're loopy. you're too committed to be just a fool. you're an agent. hello CIA. how's the weather in Langley?

>>20778138
Wrong on every count

>>20778106
define pyschoanalysis. LCSW also founded in the 70's. it doesn't take a textbook to have general timeframe knowledge

>>20778147
ever thought about the reason why Freud is so much more popular than Jung? it's not just because he had a catchier surname

>>20778161
Freud is more popular because he's more foundational to the field and his focus on sexuality is more scandalous and provocative, as was his addiction to street crack.

>>20778165
glad we can agree Freud > Jung

Jung is made redundant by Lacan. the only 2 psychoanalysts you need to know are Freud and Lacan, Jung was kooky. read him only for novelty

>>20778161
Freud being popular among the evil fucks who decide these things is not a point in his favor.

>>20778184
>Freud being popular among the evil fucks who decide these things
he's not. just in pop culture. the evil fucks who decide these things consider him "outdated" along with the entire field of psychoanalysis

>>20778106
> You know fuck all about the field.
I'm unironically a psych major

> Therapy is done by...Therapists (LCSW), most psychologists are researchers, not clinicians.

Had to google what the fuck a LCSW is in the first place. As I said, any developed nation requires a major in psychology or a medical degree with specialization in psychiatry + 3-5 years of training to become a licensed psychotherapist. I don't give a fuck what rules apply to your island, I'm telling you what applies to the rest of the world. American mental health care is utter garbage and so is the system running it. Most psychotherapists are psychologists, some are psychiatrists. Most psychology graduates go on to become mental health professionals, not researchers. Of course your american cuntbrain can't understand that your rules do not apply in other parts of the world.

>>20778220
They have always preferred him to Jung.

>>20778158
Insolens Verbum - as said here >>20777408 the original psychoanalysts were literary figures. If I'm asking about your self concept, I'm practicing psychoanalysis by probing internal (unconscious) structures. If we're gonna be lax with definitions, every 19th century author was practicing psychoanalysis (a fact Freud highlighted in his essays).

>>20778225
>Major
>non-American
>using Americanisms
Yeah, your opinion is worthless. To reiterate, you know fuck all.

>>20778226
in what world is this true?

>>20778249
Look who is taught more in universities
Look whose theories were mainstreamed
Look who has more books at libraries and bookstores

>>20778299
Jung has far more respect in academia than Freud, Freud is mostly taught for character assassination of the entire field of psychoanalysis through a synecdoche (look how dumb freud was! look how dumb this psychoanalysis thing is! but overall freud was smart because thanks to him we have CBT! trust Big Therapy goy!)

>>20775401
Lmfao, please, read more. Freud and his entire psychoanalysis movement is a subversive, politically-bent fraud meant only to pathologize healthy western traditions and reduce the relations between men and women to the sad state they are in today. This thread is a joke and the seethe over Jung is hilarious because it just shows how hard he filters people who are unable to conceive of the possibility of there being anything more to the human experience than sex.

>>20778327
Not really. They dismiss Jung right away as "muh mysticism." At most they might mention the hero's archetype in a literary theory class.

>>20778110
Handsome and highly muscular as well. He wrote somewhere that he was once looking at himself in the mirror and thinking about how he looks like the last person in the world to research about spiritual phenomena lmao

>>20778412
I didn't say he's respected, just more respected than Freud. Who really is respected is Lacan, but he on the other hand simply is not covered in depth. You are supposed to treat CBT as the Holy Grail, don't even think about self-diagnosis, autotherapy and Lacan! Don't think about performing a psychoanalysis of yourself! You're not Authorized(TM) to know about yourself!

>>20778422
that's simply another red flag to the trash heap of red flags that Jung is

do not underestimate but do not respect Evil people either

>>20778452
Friendly reminder that you'll give up tripfagging in less than two weeks.

>>20778452
Haha seethe. Jung's work is top tier and he easily belongs to the top 5 of 20th century thinkers and you will always be tripfag loser—probably a tranny—who got filtered by him. Again, seethe!

>>20778481
you are a hylic fooled by aesthetics and power, and the aesthetics of power
>>20778458
my trip is just my insurance policy (copyright), nothing more

I will never commit suicide because my life has meaning. I will never die in a random accident because I always stay vigilant. I'm not against America or the CIA. I am only against the forces of the Capital. CIA is one of them. But it doesn't have to be. I am vital to U.S. natl. interest. The Capital is not. Do not kill me, I am valuable to U.S. natl. interest.

>>20771079
so sociology? pray tell, how is Durkheim destroying the world, buddy boyo?

>>20778854
Not at all. I am in fact a Gnostic. I have nothing but disdain for usurped worldly power. You're clearly out of your depth when it comes to Jung, tranny. Go dilate somewhere else.

>>20778927
You are worshipping a self-evidently Evil, unethical man who utilized the power of Gnosis for Evil self-interest

>>20778932
I do not "worship" anyone but the One. Jung's work is of immense value and without his work I would not have been able to find my path. He also was a genial and kind man who dedicated his life to the Truth, which demands respect. You are unironically projecting your own flaws onto him.

>>20778941
>I do not "worship" anyone but the One.
Jung is your idol and role model. If he wasn't, you wouldn't defend him so totalistically and you would agree with me. In short, you're a retarded hylic.

>>20778956
You are deranged. No matter how much you seethe about Jung, it will not diminish the value of his work nor in any way affect the man himself.

>>20778959
I don't seethe about Jung, I just look at the facts already posted here and coldly conclude he lacked Ethics and abused his patients who trusted him with their mental health. Simple as.

>>20778984
As has already been discussed, he did the best possible thing to do. You're grasping at straws.

>>20778993
Umm, no, it has not been discussed. You are deranged. You are worshipping a man. Please consider growing some balls of your own.

>>20778996
Seethe!

>>20778999
Said the man without balls, looking at the mirror that is his reflective LCD screen.

>>20778862
>destroying
Well, that's already occurred, so? That what's left remains subject to a species of 'cheapening' is really neither here nor there at this point
I submitted this
>>20774050
Among its errors the initial 'is' should read 'has,' etc.
>in b4 tl;dr
'boss'

>>20777386
he never advocated that in the slightest. it's ok to admit you haven't read him.

>>20777408
>psychiatry
keekekekekekek
>>20777670
Jung already showed all these things without needing to appeal to the gay Hegelian pantheon. As he stated, analysis is a "mere expedient".

>>20777386
Left hand magic is far older than your jew worship retard.

>>20779116
>Jung already showed all these things without needing to appeal to the gay Hegelian pantheon.
He failed. Lacan has a more coherent vision and is way better for practical purposes.

Why no love for my boy Adler?

>>20779143
You got some vicarious inferiority sh*t working there, anon?

>>20778984
>A tripfag shits up a thread with baseless pontifications

Every damn time

>>20779143
Hes a sociologist

>>20777399
In what I've read, Jung never gives a specific amount. My understanding is that they're infinite in principle.

>>20773274
the writer of this post probably will never realize just how funny his post actually is.

>Jung took advantage of a Rockefeller and fucker her over
Why am I supposed to hate him?

>>20778245
BTFO's on every point
> m-m muh AMERICANISM!

>>20777408
You have literally no idea what you're talking about and are likely one of those terminally online internet autists who can only make assumptions about the outside world that he never interacts with

>>20780414
It takes about 5 seconds for a psychoanalyst to start talking that you can recognize them as a charlatan and failed literary writer. Literally every single psychoanalyst story of "I once had a patient who" is so comically false it's barely more believe than when some middle aged hippie tells you she saw a ghost.

>>20780559
I wasn't saying psychoanalysis isn't useless, it mostly is, but to say pretty much all therapy including CBT is useless with no evidence of its efficacy is just ignorant.

Plus, Freud was actually right about the link between repressed emotions and neurotic anxiety. Sometimes the subconscious mind represses painful feelings and instead distracts the mind or body with mental illness or chronic pain. This concept is very important for therapy.

>>20780624
>all therapy including CBT
Wait, I can get tax write off on my cock and ball torture sessions now? It's therapeutic I guess.

>>20780624
There is no scientific evidence that CBT is more effective than psychoanalysis in the long run

>>20780741
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK80610/

>>20769947
This is a Jung board shit head

>>20780958
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2017/12/psychoanalysis#:~:text=But%20the%20team%20also%20found,group%20(%20World%20Psychiatry%20%2C%20Vol.
suck my dick you cherry picking cuntbag

>>20780624
How much better is it than placebo?

What a pathetic thread.

>>20777145
>There is no code of ethics in which this is acceptable and you know it underneath all your obscurantist posturing.
>Implying I believe her.

>>20778422
In retrospective he was right,

How to fix my covert narcissism according to Jung?

>>20781562
Was she his patient? Did she have an intimate relationship with him outside of the boundaries of the treatment? These are the only questions you need to believe the answers to.

>>20781765
She wasn't his patient when any love affair occurred. This is possibly clear from their letters and any claim otherwise is well after the fact by her. But please continue avoiding any engagement in Jung's work, the ad hom is much more productive and interesting.

>>20781892
All I'm hearing is coping, seething, and irrelevant hair-splitting. Believe women, anon.

>>20781927
Can't deal with facts. Classic. Dilate.

>>20779105
>>20779120
Not a single fucking argument, only obfuscation to mask the demonic origins of "becoming whole rather than good" Jungian thought, even regressing Christ himself into nothing more but a Jungian symbol. It really is a trite cliché among Jung cultists to come to their idol's aid at this point. Cocksuckers.

>>20780984
In the Luciferian tranny ghetto on /lit/, perhaps.

>>20779287
>In what I've read, Jung never gives a specific amount. My understanding is that they're infinite in principle.
fair enough. these days, it's hard to take an author seriously if they don't claim either the existence of a "pretty" number of simple types or an infinite amount of types. so, the whole "12 Jungian archetypes" is pretty much fanfic nonsense, correct?

I fucking hate Jungian archetypes and don't take serious anyone who uses them in discussing mythology
Fucking pseudo-spiritual bunk

>>20782858
You are in no position to whine cocksucking and defending idols when you sell your soul to one womans infidelity lmao

>>20782858
>makes nonfactual claim
>get told you're wrong
>nOt uN aRGUmeNt
Perhaps you would get an argument if attempted to make a cogent point. All your references to Jung are obviously second-hand so maybe just share whose points I should actually be arguing with if that makes it easier for you. I'm interested where the "muh demons" line is coming from in the cathosphere.

>>20783013
>to one woman's infidelity
Whoa, if this is so, then the greatest piece of Performance Art in human history is somehow even more impressive
Gotta love Jesus, anon, even if you don't 'believe in' God
t. dif anon, oc

>>20783415
>>makes nonfactual claim
Do you actually take issue with my claim of Jung advocating for a left-hand path through shadow integration or reading the subtext within his interpretation of the Christ archetype as attaining wholeness and becoming Christ-like, or are you just a semantically obsessed pseudo-intellectual autist and resorted to stonewalling?

>>20783634
>Do you actually take issue with my claim of Jung advocating for a left-hand path through shadow integration
Yes its a retarded premise and indicates you haven't read anything about the shadow nor how it relates to individuation. You don't become the shadow or evil in the process of confronting the shadow. He elsewhere explicitly rejects actual left-hand path bozos like blavatsky.
>reading the subtext within his interpretation of the Christ archetype as attaining wholeness and becoming Christ-like
What are you even arguing against here? He literally says that the highest aim of an individual should be to become like Christ who was wholly realized as the Son of Man and Son of God. He's explicitly pro-Christian and regularly told people to go to church to address their psychological issues..
>semantically obsessed pseudo-intellectual autist
there is nothing semantic in me calling you out for lazy attempts to deboonk without knowing anything about what you speak of.
>resorted to stonewalling
I asked where your ideas are coming. That is an honest attempt at understanding not stonewalling.

>>20783799
>Yes its a retarded premise and indicates you haven't read anything about the shadow nor how it relates to individuation. You don't become the shadow or evil in the process of confronting the shadow.
The shadow isn't real, that is the issue in of itself. It is an imagined state, an abstract form that superficially bears your resemblance, but not unlike a true shadow can only exist within proximity of your being without ever directly interacting with it. "Integrate your shadow"? Retarded. It simply mythologizes the human condition through this imaginary dark side, literally sacralizing a faux-substance and turning you away from God as a result. Your vices are nothing but ignorance to God, nothing more.
>He elsewhere explicitly rejects actual left-hand path bozos like blavatsky.
Jung being a milquetoast and expressing his fear of the left-hand expressed through a neurotic aversion to death doesn't mean he didn't flirt around with such concepts consistently throughout his career (see: the anima and animus). He certainly wasn't invested in good or virtue.
>What are you even arguing against here? He literally says that the highest aim of an individual should be to become like Christ who was wholly realized as the Son of Man and Son of God.
Satanic. You are lead astray by pride. Christ is Christ, Christ-like is an oxymoron and gnostic garbage.
>He's explicitly pro-Christian and regularly told people to go to church to address their psychological issues..
Well, he IS a protestant...
>there is nothing semantic in me calling you out for lazy attempts to deboonk without knowing anything about what you speak of.
Your obsession with my understanding of the ideas, instead of whether they express legitimate concerns is what you makes you a disingenuous Jung fanboy.
>I asked where your ideas are coming. That is an honest attempt at understanding not stonewalling.
Jung is dangerous because he gives the myth of modernity some headway through the refurbishment of magical occult thinking. It's all the cope of a man who apostatized his faith again and again in the vain hope he could ascend as a priestly shaman of a brand new faith of his own devices.

What was Jungs endgame?

>>20770035
>The Seduction of Unreason: The Intellectual Romance with Fascism from Nietzsche to Postmodernism

>Ever since the shocking revelations of the fascist ties of Martin Heidegger and Paul de Man, postmodernism has been haunted by the specter of a compromised past. In this intellectual genealogy of the postmodern spirit, Richard Wolin shows that postmodernism's infatuation with fascism has been extensive and widespread. He questions postmodernism's claim to have inherited the mantle of the Left, suggesting instead that it has long been enamored with the opposite end of the political spectrum. Wolin reveals how, during in the 1930s, C. G. Jung, Hans-Georg Gadamer, Georges Bataille, and Maurice Blanchot were seduced by fascism's promise of political regeneration and how this misapprehension affected the intellectual core of their work. The result is a compelling and unsettling reinterpretation of the history of modern thought. In a new preface, Wolin revisits this illiberal intellectual lineage in light of the contemporary resurgence of political authoritarianism.

>>20784615
>The shadow isn't real, that is the issue in of itself.
Good lord, I've honestly never seen someone discredit their opinion so utterly completely with so few words.

Have you been published? I need to read other insane shit you've written.