/lit/ - Literature

>>20741750

trying to get back into reading. is neuromancer going to kill my budding motivation?

I talk like Dr Prunesquallor from Gormenghast irl

Water sleeps

Go on post it again, Gormenghast bro. Surely janny won't ruin your question for a third time?

>>20741763
same bro

but i thinking about trying wandering inn or dungen crawer carl

>>20741836
DCC is probably better. I haven't read TWI but even people who like it say it takes a while to get going. DCC is pretty good from book 1, though takes to book 3 to really hit its stride.

should i read The Wizard Cuck or Gormengoober next?

>>20741763
it's a bit dull if you're familiar with other cyberpunk fiction because its the template of 97 percent of other cyberpunk fiction, but not terrible at all

>>20741888
solar cycle

authors and their obvious fetishes

>cook
femdom
>bakker
cuckoldry
>wolfe
incest
>hobb
being a housewife

>>20741911
>Peake
Tradwife submissives

>>20741888
Gormenbased. Peake is superior to Wolfe in almost every way.

why do the good books always have such few art

>>20741911
What's Erikson's?

>>20741911
>Sanderson
Action-y princesses.
That's something I've noticed, most of his action-y female characters tend to be extremely feminine, or even become moreso (Vin goes from a tomboyish street rat to a refined lady, etc.)

>>20741987
Yas kween girlbosses.

>>20742003
Name one other

>>20742026
Well, he doesn't actually have many fighting females in Stormlight. There's Eshonai but she doesn't really fit. I guess Jasnah? Not feminine-acting, but clearly dresses up very feminine. Marasi in Era 2 Mistborn is also pretty overtly feminine. Vivenna and Siri in Warbreaker just ARE princesses, and Vivenna in particular is high-class.

Been listening to Andy Serkis's version of the LotR audiobooks.
Normally not a fan of audiobooks, but LotR is very comfy to listen to.

So was he gay or not
also if that crow just went to the ship or even heeby she could have got them to come back for him, they were only 2 days out, vivacia would have turned around for him or at least heeby and rapskal would

>>20742037
He likes females he can 'fix'

>>20742060
Not really? He just seems to like princesses or action-y girls that aren't tomboys.

>canon ending of Xeelee sequence involves dark matter species cannibalizing the universe while baryonic species escape through a portal to another universe
>canon ending of Revelation Space involves terraforming nanobots removing all threats (humanity included) in its mission to terraform every planet in the Milky Way, driving humanity out of the galaxy
What are some endings to other sci-fi series?

>>20742051
was the wit and the skill simply due to people being descendants of Elderlings? Fitz comments a lot on how when he felt or communicated with the dragons it was like a mix of the two. Did the original farseers gain the skill after going to the Elderlings the first time or did taker Farseer already have the skill when he came from the outislands?

>>20742051
No. He loved the Fool but not in a sexual or even romantic way.
The fool was absolutely gay though.

>>20742093
>Vin
Broken
>Shallan
Broken
>Janah
Broken (femcel)
>Vienna
Broken (femcel)

>>20742120
Think the fool was castrated? We never saw his peepee and he was super reluctant that time when they brought him back after he got stabbed

Finished reading The Stars My Destination by Alfred Bester. Have to say that I was expecting more from a book so heavily recommended by famous authors. It hasn't aged that well. Tons of interesting ideas that were probably quite stunning and original back when this was first published. I've read that this was one of the first cyberpunk novels ever written, so in that context it's kind of incredible. The thing is, I don't care. The writing was really mediocre. It felt like the writer had a bunch of interesting ideas written down as bullet points, but didn't have a plot, so he just stole the plot from The Count of Monte Cristo and called it a day. I can't recommend this to anybody unless they're obsessed with classic science fiction.

>>20742051
Kettricken best girl

>>20742143
Based.
Still angry that he ends up with that whore Molly.

>>20742152
Whore?
Idk I think that was Fitz fault.
He could have come back, he literally just let it happen. It was over a year he was assumed dead.

>Okay team time to go carve our dragon
>What if instead of a dragon we do a boar
>But it's supposed to be a dragon
>Ok let's give it wings then

>>20741763
I'll never understand when I see people say "get back into reading". Just pick up a book and read it - it's not like you've forgotten how.

Does the drama in Infinite Realms eventually fall to the wayside or is the author pretty much centered on it in this series? I don't particularly mind the edge, but I was hoping for more focus on systems than social conflict.

>>20741888
You could alternate since they're both multiple books, but personally I suggest starting with Titus Moan

is there anything more fun than making the audience like a character before killing them

>>20742140
What did you think about the part where he terrorizes and rapes his black teacher?

>>20742452
wtf?

>>20742415
Verity.........

>>20741750
FUCK they are good.

>>20741911
>Gu Zhen Ren
Genderswap/forced feminization

>>20741911
Cook is just tsundere, the femdom never pays off. If he was a femdom guy it would have been SC, not TL.

Just ordered the first book of the Dragonlance series. What am I in for?

>>20741911
>wolfe
>incest
If you're going to extrapolate a fetish based off one instance of something from a single novel you should read The Sorcerer's House lol you guys have no idea.
If he had a single fetish based on what he writes about most often it would just be tall women with red or blonde hair and perky tits.

>>20741987

>>20742749
Kek I just finished reading this ama
Wonder if the Loli comment was directed at cook, he's got multiple powerful women that are set to look like beautiful petite teens
Lady, lady's daughter, croakers adopted daughers, the taken and her daughter from that more recent black company book, Mist, bragi's second and third wives

>>20741888
Peake isn't worth reading. I wish he was. But alas.

>>20742749
>not liking amerifat women is pedophilic
These are the people that act like japanese content is low-brow.

Do any of you guys read This Young Master is not Cannon Fodder? Chapters 4-25 and 29-66 aren't on Royalroad. I found a pdf for the first missing section, but nothing for the second. Anything I can do that doesn't involve reading it last year or buying it off of Amazon?
Had it recommended here so hopefully someone knows

>story has a Merlin

>>20742749
After reading Lyonesse, I tend to agree with him. So much pedoshit in that.

>>20742942
How am I supposed to write an Arthurian story without Merlin

>>20742991
Is it good? It's been on my to read.

>>20742749
>get asked if you like fat women
>answer by calling other authors pedophiles
Sus

>>20742140
>The writing was really mediocre
>It felt like the writer had a bunch of interesting ideas written down as bullet points, but didn't have a plot, so he just stole the plot from The Count of Monte Cristo and called it a day.
True. But the book also has an insane amount of drive and sincerity which really sells it.

>>20741750
Who is the most prolific fantasy writer ever?

>>20743028
Homer

>>20743032
He only wrote two epics and some hymns, if even that.

>>20743050
The schizo janitor who wrote an incredibly massive epic about an angelic war that was only found after he died.

>>20743058
Darger probably wasn’t crazy. He got put in an asylum when he was a young orphan because he was a smart arse; he was in trouble only for masturbating which is normal for a boy.

Should I read Bakker? I feel like I’m missing out on a lot of what’s going on here.

>>20743066
Only if you want to reign supreme

>>20743066
If you like reading about cuckoldry and men getting ass raped and like to feel smart then yeah, it's for you

>>20743066
If I were you, I wouldn’t touch him until I’ve read everything else. I made that mistake, and now I have to live with PBS(Post Bakker Syndrome) because almost everything thing else fucking sucks when compared to him. Ruined fantasy for me.

>>20742199
He did try to go back at one point but Verity had already skilled to him at that point and he couldn't fight it.

>>20742992
Why would anyone write yet another Arthurian story? They all suck. Especially the post-Norman ones.

>>20743128
Right, but he didn't even try send a msg, which was offered to him at the mountain kingdom and would have been fucking easy to do. Also he could have gone back after

Would it have been awkward? Yes, but it's still on him. I know he couldn't fly back on the dragons because he would be leaving nighteyes but kettricken, fool and starling all wanted to come back and would have taken a msg for him. Much of the awkwardness could have been avoided too if he let kettricken tell burich/molly too, just that he was alive and knew and he understood but he was coming back.

What's a good sci-fi series with really well written characters and dialogue and the main focus of the writing is the setting and it's implications?

>>20743136
Because no one cares about the Byzantine Empire

>>20743278
>Because no one cares about the Byzantine Empire
*No one wrote an evoking story with Byzantine aesthetics so far
Let's be honest, you could pull off almost any setting as long as the writing is good. An interesting setting is a boon, but one that can easilt squandered if the writer mishandles the core of the story.

>>20741763
I don't see why it would.
I like Count Zero and Mona Lisa Overdrive also.

currently reading Gibson's bridge trilogy, on Idoru now.

>>20743299
Genreshit typically needs some amount of familiar aesthetic and details to ground the audience, and nobody cares about the medieval iteration of the city state of Byzantion.

>>20743331
Thoughts? How scifi is it? My assumption is that it's gonna be mundane.

>>20743346
neuromancer or his 2nd trilogy (Bridge)?

>>20741750
FUCK he is good.

>>20743385
>earring wearing man child
LOL
LMAO even

>>20743385
>China mieville

So this is the fag that wrote the cringe ass introduction for gormengast

>>20743179
Fitz unironically cucked himself

>>20743437
>Muh duty

He's still a more based character than kellus

>>20741911
Pretty sure Hobbs is a furry
No normal woman should know that much about large animals

>That time where she describes how the women compare burich fucking them to a horse

What does sffg think of Terry Pratchett?

>>20743510
Have you browsed through the archives?

>>20743388
>implying he doesnt mog you in every way

>>20743543
I'd knock his commie ass out in one punch. One punch.

>>20743385
LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD!

>>20742994
Not as good as Dying Earth, but the first in the series is still a genuine 5-star novel.

>>20743271
Sprawl.

Just finished shadow and claw, pretty great so far and I want to do a reread already (even though i regularly flip back to prev chapters whenever new breadcrumbs are sown)
Will go through the whole solar cycle before the reread+companion podcasts/online discussions I guess.

>>20743555
>Wasting trips on lies
you could have just said you have hair but noooo you need to waste trips

I want to have a trust building sex with Vin from Mistborn.

>>20743760
more like belongs in the bin lmaooo

>>20741911
>jordan
emasculation
>GRRM
incest again
>abercrombie
sloppy sex
>kj parker
siege tactics

>going from reading Hobb to reading Abercrombie
I feel like I've left the mind of a sensible, sensitive person and entered the mind of a sadist.

>>20743399
lmao just read that yesterday, I thought it was a woman or somethong

>>20743066
yeah of course

>>20743456
>That time where she describes how the women compare burich fucking them to a horse
I imagine Burrich as being similar in presence and stature to Hagrid, so that imagery stacks.

>>20743121
Same. Shit, I don’t even know why I come here in the hopes that some new KINO will come out when everything has gone to shit with modern publishing. No wonder everyone is discussing webnovels now, even though those suck.

>>20743814
imo Abercrombie reads like a marvel comic, edging a line between realism and cartoonish.

>>20743841
Webnovel authors don't hate their audience at least. Or, they don't write as if they do.

>>20743380
Bridge. It's not like I'm not going to read it, just been puttng it off for months cause other stuff and still haven't read Mona Lisa Overdrive.

Why do you consider sci-fi and fantasy to be the superior genres of literature?

>>20743970
We don’t, now fuck off for the nth time.

>>20743970
Can't a man just... like dragons?

>>20742759
Garrett makes a couple comments about "being able to appreciate he budding beauty of 14 year olds." Paraphrasing just a little. And how The Silver Spike's protagonist is introduced having a threesome with 11 and 12 year old sisters.

>>20743970
How many more times are you going to keep asking this question? Because at this point, it’s just sad and pathetic.

>>20743917
Only halfway through Idoru (the 2nd book), so I could ultimately be wrong but I actually would agree that it's relatively "mundane" in respect to the world and plots compared to the Sprawl trilogy.
and "less scifi" in respect to your original question, more so less fantastical elements (again, so far).
I guess I just like Gibson

just read Mona Lisa Overdrive

>>20742235
Don't pretend as if you don't understand what it means for someone to establish a regular habit of reading for a period of time but then eventually fall out of it, at which point Anon realizes and wants to correct it. Acting like it's unrelatable does not make you appear smarter in front of the young impressionable anons, you only reveal yourself to be the painfully obvious autist that you really are.

>>20743063
You're saying masturbation is not a sign of madness? All the schizos I know jack off non-stop. These gotta be some connection.

>>20743970
This is why: >>20743983

>>20743510
There's almost no discussion about Pratchett but the general prevailing opinion is "yeah he's pretty great", except the few people who screech about Reddit every time you bring him up.

>>20743990
I presume it's bot spam because it's not even good bait

>>20744187
Beep beep boop boop

>>20743983
>The Silver Spike's protagonist is introduced having a threesome with 11 and 12 year old sisters.
Holy based

>>20741987
potsherds

>>20743848
There is a First Law comic.

I have PBS(Post Bakker Syndrome) and know every time I read a fantasy book I feel like I'm downgrading to an inferior non-complex world, fantasy is forever ruined thanks to Bakker (Ruler Supreme)

>>20744816
That's just stockholm syndrome. A good analogy would be that you've come to enjoy cock and ball torture.
Or in this case: cöčk and bäll torture

>>20742452
It hasn't aged well. I doubt they'll be reading this one in high school.
>>20743026
It has that going for it. I really liked the end because of how unexpected it was. Though I'm not sure it was foreshadowed in any way.

>>20744816
Malazan made me feel this way.

>>20741750
Suggest a monthly theme for August for the Goodreads group. Providing books relevant to the theme is optional.

>>20743760
The greatest sin of that series is having an amazingly interesting setting aesthetic(red giant sun, everything perpetually blood red, all colors being reduced to black, white, and metallic gleaming, al shrouded in clouds of billowing smoke and soot) and then mentioning it so infrequently and giving so little description I kept forgetting about it even while consciously trying to keep it in mind and visualize the scenery that way.
Shit sucks hard, what a waste of the only interesting thing in the entire book.

And writers here? I find it really hard to write dialogue between 2 girls, like them having girly chats and such. I just cringe at my every attempt and then have to pace my room or do something else for a few minutes to calm down.

>>20745053
Have you tried writing them as human beings instead

>>20745053
don't think of them as "girly". that probably holds you back. think of them as people/characters.
making something read like a stereotype is piss easy. making them feel real is the hard and important part.

>>20744816
Same.
>>20744963
I’ve read both. After Coltaine’s death, Malazan just wasn’t the same anymore.

>>20745093
>feel nothing when he died
For me in early Malazan, it was Itkovian. How would it possibly be anybody else?

Erikson’s problem is that he doesn’t know how to chronologically spread his books. Same with the location of the plot. Having constant flashbacks or complete changes is the storylines is fucking shit.

>>20745093
>>20745138
Hairlock for me, unironically.

read cradle

>>20742935
Halp

>>20745053
don't listen to these simps
>>20745064
>>20745071
instead every line should be a disguised insult

>>20745481
what do you call that, the bakker approach?

>>20745494
>rent free

>>20743510
He is great.

>>20745516
Anon, he's dead

>>20745497
>that non casual lean
>those $10 new balance kicks
>a 3/10 clinging under each arm like a sucker fish on a whale shark
C H A D

>>20745517
I'm sorry, i thought that we're on /lit/ and we're discussing books. When i say that Terry Pratchett is great i mean that his literary works are great. I don't know him personally.

>>20745539
Anon, it was a joke

>>20741750
Has anyone here read the Tears of Artamon trilogy before?

>>20742140
I agree with you, especially around the writing. this book never did anything for me and I've even read it twice.

>>20745521
cmon anon 3/10.. really?

>>20745575
Ha Ha Ha!
>>20745581
Nope. Never heared of that trilogy or that author.
>>20741763
If you're getting back into reading sci-fi i'd suggest something positive and lighthearted. Have you read Michel Grimaud - L'Enfant de la mer?

>>20745637
Or maybe something peculiar like Inga hjältar här by Sam J. Lundwall?

>>20745637
>Nope. Never heared of that trilogy or that author.
Makes sense, I just started reading it on a whim. It's difficult to explain, essentially it takes place in a setting based off 18th century Europe, with the main character getting possessed by a demon/dragon due to being the heir of his father, the warlord of a country that's essentially Wallachia, and by tribal law is now king of the country said warlord controlled. Meanwhile, the main character is an artist, and doesn't have any idea how to run a country, which is inconvenient since there's also a simultaneous plot about a prince who wants to unify the continent this is set in into a single empire, meaning he's going to try and conquer the main character's country. It's much easier to understand if you read the books.

>>20743456
I think I remember reading in an author summary about her that she was raised on a farm or a ranch, and currently lives on one now. If so that explains her knowledge, or she just really does love horse cock.

>>20744007
amending this post for the interested anon because I was that surprised:

I have now finished Idoru.
the second half of the book picks up very rapidly and ended up leaving this one much more enjoyable than the first novel, and banished that mundane feeling.

hopefully the third book continues this

>>20744816
Is time for you to got one step further and either read Tolkien or Wolfe. Pick but be aware, from here onwards only classic words of mythology, medieval romance and fantastical literature will satisfy you.

Any fantasy with urban planning?

>ways of sanderson
Write the most mainstream drivel to gain control over the minds of the masses and gain big success and earn major riches.
>ways of Bakker
Write the most complex of worlds with the most sublime of prose to win the minds of niche aristocrat readers so he can reign as the supreme ruler of fantasy.

>>20745905
Tolkien is shit, man. And I'm not even trying to be ironic or edgy here. I genuinely dislike his works. His characters are fucking shit. Stereotypes of perfect and imperfect caricatures.

>In 1955, Muir attacked The Return of the King, writing that "All the characters are boys masquerading as adult heroes ... and will never come to puberty ... Hardly one of them knows anything about women", causing Tolkien to complain angrily to his publisher.
This is a meme here, bit it's blatantly true.

>>20741836
Why would pick a gigantic unfinished series if you wanted to try to get back into reading ?

>>20745925
>ways of Tolkien
Tom Bombadil hops around doing nothing while an orc rapes his wife, because Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow.

>>20745925
While I can understand the dislike of the sometimes overtly simplistic archetypes present in his works, the obsession some of his critics have with the overall chaste nature of his stories is quite disturbing. Not only there was acclaimed fantasy novels every bit as ignorant of women as LotR, but sometimes it feels, in all honesty, like coomers masquerading as higher critics.

>>20742635
Sure, if you're talking about the covers.

>>20745925
Thanks for letting me know, anon. You sound like a distinguished intellectual able to distinguish good fantasy novels from their inferiors.

>It's the "Meng Hao beats up someone until they agree to buy all of his medicine while a crowd looks on in disbelief" part of the chapter

>>20745948
Tolkien was able to incorporate Christian (and ancient Greek/Roman) mythology and symbology pretty well into his works. But he completely failed on the human aspect. Even fucking Homer three fucking thousand years ago (imagine that) was able to capture the humanity within us when he flawlessly described the love that Hector had for his family.

>>20745966
>Fleecing over 100 Spirit Stones a day in a sect where people get half a Spirit Stone every month
Who but Meng Hao?

>>20745979
That's something I can understand and actually agree with to an important extend. Is not the critic of his rather archetypical characters what bothers me, but the extreme focus on the sexual component of it as if it was the worst flaw of the Legendarium. The expectation that every fantasy book needs to be sensual and even sexual no matter the plot is something that seems dumb, but is actually implied in some of those critics, and it smells like old pulpy fetishism.

A Kellian Gnostic Zaudunyani New Imperial Mandati sorcerer was teaching a class on Anasurimbor Kellhus, known false prophet.

”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Kellhus and accept that he was the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Inri Sejenus!”

At this moment, a brave, pro-salvation, skinspy champion who had served 1500 tours of duty and understood the necessity of Mog-Pharau and fully supported all military decision made by the Holy Consult stood up.

”How does one achieve salvation, pinhead?”

The arrogant sorceror smirked in a Nilnameshi way and smugly replied “by following our Lord-and-Prophet in life and death”

”Wrong. If Kellhus is the God-of-Gods, then why hasn’t he shut the World yet?”

The sorceror was visibly shaken, and dropped his quill and copy of the Rehabilitaiton of Sorcery. He stormed out of the room crying those Zaudunyani crocodile tears. The students applauded and all joined the Consult that day and accepted Sil as their lord and savior. An Inchoroi named “Eternal Salvation” flew into the room and perched atop the Sign of the Horns and shed a tear on the soggomant. The Inverse Fire was looked into several times, and the Progenitors themselves showed up and enacted a mass culling across the country.

The sorceror lost his tenure and was thrown to the Sranc pits the next day. He died of the monstruous hungers of the Derived and his soul was tossed into the Outside for all of eternity.

>mfw No Bakker books for the at least the next 10 years

>>20745992
If it just happened once it'd just be funny but it happens every arc.

>>20746038
I'm at the competition for the Cubic Pearl, it's not like he's in a sect or has a job so there's not really other ways to develop income (aside from pill duplication, which is slower than scams and actually costs stones itself). As long as it's kept relatively fresh I don't mind, my favorite is what he did to those two sect members over the spear.
The realization that he has one-sided deadly feuds with people in every major sect and family in the Southern Domain was pretty funny.

>>20742105
Bump

>>>/tv/171724419
Bros...

>>20746166
Shit, that was a wild thread.

Finally starting Book of the Short Sun after a long break from SFF. After this all I really have left of Wolfe is the sequel to Latro and then his stand alone novels. Are those any good or should I read other authors? I have Between Two Fires on my wishlist.

>>20743299
>16 Ways to Defend a Walled City
>Sailing to Sarantium

>>20746364
Brave of them to making a confident statement like that about a setting without even double checking if GGK covered it

>>20742673
A very generic adventure, but not without a certain amount of charm. The "Twins" trilogy that follows is a lot better, Raistlin becomes a genuinely great character in those.
>>20743028
Maybe R.A. Salvatore? I think he's got 30+ Drizzt books at this point, plus side series. Depends what you count as a "book" though, there's LitRPG and direct-to-Kindle authors who shart out one a week.

>>20746389
It's moreso fantasy erotica authors that put out absurd amounts. LitRPG stuff doesn't come out that frequently from one author unless it's just published webnovel stuff.

>>20743983
>>20744215
Kek I forgot this

I really struggled following The Quantum Thief.

I watched Lupin on Netflix recently after never having heard of the character before, and didn't realise it was sort of the French Sherlock in that it get's retold and reimagined a lot. So to come across two different takes on this hitherto unknown-to-me character was really weird.

It's the barely explained worldbuilding that's thrown me. A lot of it sounds similar to some of the concepts from The Culture novels, but it doesn't slow down enough to make the world feel real or grounded.

I also feel like I wasn't familiar enough with Lupin to understand the implications of the references. For example, there's a group mentioned that goes by the name of a character in the TV show. But I don't know what the original context of that name is, if the TV show changed that, or what the intent of using that name was supposed to signify in this book.

>>20743983
Cookbros, I don't feel so good...

I can't tell if Black Company is a good series or not.

This is my second time reading through and there are parts that really grip me

And than it just meanders on into nothing

>>20746495
I only read the first one and all I can remember is a distinct lack of any kind of description for anything

KJ Parker fans do you think Fencer or Scavenger is the better trilogy?

>"Fans are going to hate the book"
What did he mean by this?

>>20746552
>What did he mean by this?
That fans are going to hate the book. Are you that much of a retard that you can't understand that?

books for this feel?

>>20745032
How people think this hack is a good worldbuilder is beyond me. He barely describes anything meaningful or barely even sets a basic scene ever. Some videogamey history with only a few major points is all that's ever provided.

I had a dream I was some kind of prophet of a daemon
I walked around and was able to send out tentacles at people and I could do two things, the first would be a sacrifice and the tentacles were black
The person I hit would get their souls consumed and their body would blacken and they'd die
The second would be a conversion and they'd kneel in front of me and I'd corrupt them and turn them into the followers of the daemon, they'd retain some degree of consciousness and identity but they'd be totally corrupted into evil
I was in a lecture theatre and a lot of people chose to accept my gift but some denied it and they were sacrificed
There were a lot of disabled people in the crowd who had their disability cured when they were converted and they cried and praised the daemon
Does this sound like something in fantasy?

>>20745032
I struggle with this myself as a DM. I have a weird apocalyptic fantasy setting and I don't know how to get it across without outright telling how weird it is.

>>20743278
Byzantium by Stephen Lawhead is good if you don't hate Christianity. But it's mostly about Danes.

>>20746748
Le Infante Terrible or something like that

it's a fable by Oscar Wilde that's exactly this but spanish/retarded

>>20746781
Are you asking us if your schizophrenic dreams about you being a psychopath is fantasy?

>>20746882
:(
It's just a dream it doesn't mean anything
Why did you have to say that
I was asking if it reminded you of something like in fantasy
I'm not schizophrenic or a psychopath, please don't call me that

What can I read for the feel of this illustration?

>>20746030
someone post the grrm version

im literally not smart enough to read book of the new sun.

i dont have the mnemonic capacity for any of the characters or symbolism, i dont have the worldliness to understand them even if i did, and i literally have to google a word i have never even literally fucking heard of let alone know the definition to on literally every fucking page. genuinely trembling with impotent rage at rereading this first chapter of shadow of the torturer twice and barely understanding anything

>>20746971
That's fine. It's not for you. Try a Warhammer novelization instead.

>>20746971
/lit/ just loves these hard to read autistic faggoty novels because they actually are a bunch of pseuds trying to sound smart.

BotNS is fantasy though. How hard could it be?

>>20746971
Bots isn't that complicated as far as pomo novels go.
This'll spoil it a bit but the main trick the novel is pulling on you is describing a scifish setting in archaic fantasy language. You're supposed to notice more and more of this when you read it for the second time.
Otherwise for general words either just read on an ereader with a built in dictionary, look them up as you go or just work out what they mean from context and carry on.

>>20747013
>You're supposed to notice more and more of this when you read it for the second time.
It's extremely obvious even the first time.

>>20747015
Well aren't you a clever little boy

>>20746998
not that hard, it's written by a peasant who enjoys peasantry symbolism and old peasant slang in every page, if you have an average peasant IQ you would understand it easily.

Prince of Nothing > Peasant of the new sun
Canadian Supremacy > Amerifat lunacy

>>20746971
This makes for a decent pasta

im literally not smart enough to read the second apocalypse series.

i dont have the mnemonic capacity for any of the characters or symbolism. i dont have the worldliness to understand its sublimity even if i did, and i literally have to google a word so supreme i have never even literally fucking heard of, let alone know the definition to on literally every fucking page. genuinely trembling with impotent rage at rereading this first chapter of the prince of nothing twice and barely understanding anything

>>20747092
>>20746971
this but China Mievelle

>>20746983
i actually do enjoy these quite a lot. the action scenes are super boring though and i usually glaze over them. i was hoping for more political intrigue and/or world-building than the typical banal drudgery of bolterporn. i asked an SF nerd at work if there were any books she knew of that were more like dune and less like black library novels. she suggested botns but did say "its kinda hard though. didnt really like it myself". shouldve taken her at face value honestly
>>20746998
>how hard can it be
maybe its just the way its written to be so deliberate convoluted. im not sure. all i know is that when i read a passage, i cant tell you what actually happened in it. so there's some sort of description-comprehension disconnect.
>>20747013
>this isnt hard
what kind of fucking autistic faggot writes books that only post-graduates have the intellectual capacity to enjoy? fuck these retards
>>20747015
midwit
>>20747025
being smart or clever isnt very impressive. try being a retard and being successful
>>20747062
>>20747092
fuck you, stupid faggot
>>20747133
who?

What's the point of this general if shitposters just ruin it?

>>20747143
Just keep reading, idiot. Embrace the weirdness of the world. You're trying too hard to understand a world thats meant to be confusing at first. The first chapter specifically reads like a fever dream and has things omitted, it pays off later.

>>20747147
idk I've tried to talk about authors who used to get posted about pretty frequently in here and all the posters who read them have clearly gone

>>20747143
Gene Wolfe will NEVER rule supreme, he is an actual peasant and only peasants understand his books, because it peasantry drivel and only a non-aristocrat would read it and get it.

>my wife consulted on this book
Oh really? I couldn't fucking tell.

>>20747197
They were probably driven out, no point in trying to have a discussion about stories if it causes a few to seethe uncontrollably.

They added an e to sound aristocratic, oh no no no

>>20741911
>Slaves, transexual elves and convoluted incest webs.

>>20746748

>>20747255
You can always report them, no reason to tolerate them when all they do is spam and kill any discussion

>>20747384
Won't do any good if they just ban evade.

>>20747197
What authors?

>>20746956
Delta green

>>20746552
Fans already hate it because by the time it comes out its going to be written by Sanderson.

>>20747143
>was hoping for more political intrigue and/or world-building than the typical banal drudgery of bolterporn.
Have you tried reading game of thrones.

>>20747464
>by the time it comes out its going to be written by Sanderson.
Why do you keep forcing this shit when its easily disproven it won't?

>>20747464
>Sanderson finished one series so he'll finish every series
By this logic Eoin Colfer's gonna be finishing every sci-fi series because he wrote the sort of canon Hitchhiker's Guide finale.

>>20747467
Only because its so easy to shitpost about. I dont actually know what the sitrep is on it, but i do hope Martin will finish the series because i want to read it some day.

>>20746971
>genuinely trembling with impotent rage at rereading this first chapter of shadow of the torturer twice and barely understanding anything
Made me LOL. Just imagine what the anachronistic words mean.

>>20747464
>written by Sanderson
He already said he won’t and it’s been posted multiple times here. Why do you keep posting this

>>20744187
No, it's a real person, I think someone called him out before and he got extremely defensive and tried to be someone else to defend himself.

>>20747465
There's also this book called The Dragon Waiting by John M. Ford which is "a fantasy alternate history combining vampires, the Medicis, and the convoluted English politics surrounding Edward IV and Richard III",

>>20747515
I think Guy Gavriel Kay also does political intrigue and world-building

>>20747517
Kay is a good suggestion, he based his stories on middle age history

>>20747543
Tigana is my all-time favorite novel. His other novel, The Lions of Al-Rassan, has such delicious setting, well developed characters too that I'm surprised no one here ever talks about it.

>>20747555
all the posters who read have been driven out, all that’s left are people who talk about the same authors all the time.

>>20747578
Don't forget that people trying to discuss new stories cause people to seethe for some reason.

>>20747163
thanks, anon. i took your advice. i still dont really understand literally anything going on but im still enjoying it somehow
>>20747225
oh no! aaaaaa being a peasant so scary!!
>>20747465
generic fantasy/medieval anything isn't appealing to me
>>20747491
i missed the point. its not my fault gene wolfe expects so much from his readers

>>20747587
I only see people seethe about chinkshit and litrpg stuff which is understandable

>>20747598
Not really, if they want to discuss it here, they’re more than welcome. Don’t know why people throw a shitfit that doesn’t affect them.

I'm getting filtered by gormengast is there an actual story here or is it just a description of the castle

>>20747605
>Don’t know why people throw a shitfit that doesn’t affect them
It's the thread shitters who derail the threads that do that, they hate any type of discussions.

>>20747147
Name a general that shitposters don't ruin.

>>20747617
honda general on /o/ is pretty stable. but then again automotive board is pretty low traffic and only normies use it

>>20747617
The stencils general in /po/ is devoid of any shitposters.

>>20747617
Any board that has good moderation.

>>20747624
>>20747627
How is it that board that are slow, like /lit/ have decent generals, but /lit/ can’t have the same?

>>20742673
I loved these books as a kid, but I'm terrified to read them again and find out they're shit.

Did Sanderson get big inspiration from Hobb?

>Mysterious court jester that seems to know a lot
>In stormlight he's even called the king's Wit, which is the name of the power people use in realm of the Elderlings to talk with animals
>Characters have 'connections' with other beings and talk to each other's minds with italics, just like in RotE
>Copy paste Hobb's How to care for your horse for dummies
>Ancient civilization slowly being uncovered through the books

>>20747658
I'm going to guess that it's about the personalities of the userbase themselves. Think about average temperament of arts & crafts folks, and that of those who're mechanically inclined. Both of which require use of their hands and a degree of kinesthetic intelligence that demands experience away from the deranged folk that use the rest of this site.

I'm also willing to bet that those drawn to academia have all kinds of social problems and ineptitudes, so they're more likely to be annoying shitposters

>>20747690
That really doesn’t explain the situation l, at least, wholly. There’s no reason why this general suffers so much.

>>20747690
>I'm also willing to bet that those drawn to academia have all kinds of social problems and ineptitudes,
I mean, I’ll buy this if this was a serious general to begin with, but we’re discussing fantasy and science-fiction, the shitposting should be at a minimum, yet somehow, it’s not.

>>20747750
>the shitposting should be at a minimum, yet somehow, it’s not.
/lit/ in general has poor moderation. It contributes to the decline of the board and /sff/.

>>20747797
4chan in general has poor moderation*
Sorry for the typo.

>>20747804
No, other boards have better moderation, also, I don't know why you're trying to be me.

>>20747808
>I don't know why you're trying to be me.
He’s probably a creep.

>>20746971
Get it in epub format and use a reader with a built-in dictionary, the kindle version works for me.

The first chapter is quite hard to get into, and its typical to understand things loosely - further exposition of the citadel and other characters is only done in the next few chapters. Trust the author, he will make u see the light soon enough

>>20747658
>How is it that board that are slow, like /lit/ have decent generals, but /lit/ can’t have the same?
The other boards have low population and don't tolerate a tenth of the shitpost. Seriously, try shitposting on slow boards and you get ban quickly.

>>20747555
>that I'm surprised no one here ever talks about it.
I think they used to in the past, but that all change.

>>20747808
>other boards have better moderation
Bigger boards have notoriously worse moderation. Lurk moar.

Any jazzy snazzy science fiction i could read at the dive bar with a packet of cigarettes and saxophone playing?

Why is Korean urban-fantasy, and, by extension, fantasy so batshit? Let me give you several examples.

Urban Fantasy
(Villain Hides his True Colors)
>main protagonist declares himself a gamer
>proceeds to murder, kill, and brutalize a variety of different fantastical minorities, such as beastmen, halflings, elves, the like
>somehow manages to become the main antagonist to a secret cabal of the world’s elite who are actively cooperating with otherworldly forces, such as planning to let a demon king invade, so that they can put into motion their ‘Great Reset’ plan. The Great Reset in the novel is almost 1 to 1 the actual thing, with added conditions given that its an urban fantasy.

Fantasy
(Founder of the Great Financial Family)
>main protagonist is named Rockefeller Rothmedici
>decides to get out of poverty by inventing paper money along with the modern banking system used by global banks
>The main banking race, who are also discriminated against for their ‘predatory’ practices and have an entire blood-oath writ against them by the Dwarven race are the Goblins

(Isaac)
>Another main protagonist is apparently a former special forces gook who seethed after a near-future Korea capitulated to the forces of a Sino-Japanese alliance(somehow), leading him to become a one man Korean Osama bin Ladin against the Korean people and the Japanese and Chinese
>He later gets reincarnated into a fantasy world, where upon getting discriminated by the nobility, immediately proceeds to invent the concept of terrorism in all of its forms and introduces it into a fantasy world where people can throw fireballs after studying really hard
>Commits multiple acts of terrorism almost back-to-back on fantasy government

(FFF Class Trashero)
>Different main protagonist gets sick of his quest, proceeds to murder all of his companions after finishing it
>Gets sent back to do it all over again
>Increasingly performs more outrageous and morally dubious feats out of spite for his handlers
>Eventually realizes that it’s all a test for the transmigrated people of Earth who are fighting aliens
>Also, the demon king is named Pedonar and is in a willing affair with the Elf Queen’s wife that developed out of instantaneous stockholm syndrome

This is just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what gooks write in their fantasy/sci-fi novels. My quick summary does none of these works justice.

How do they write this shit?

>>20747903
>How do they write this shit?
I assume on a keyboard. But it's possible they use their phones as well.

GRRM has the coof bros...

>>20747903
>Why is Korean urban-fantasy
No such thing. All the shit you listed is jusy cookiecutter gooksekai.

>>20747908
There’s always a chance they use voice user interface.

thoughts on Clive Barker's Imajica? worth reading?

>>20745912
Not /lit/ and not really fantasy but there’s this cool old cartoon about planning a Roman city.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9K7Yds8bWz4
>>20746389
>>20747672
Thanks anons, a generic fantasy adventure sounds like just what I was looking for for some my weekend reading.

>>20747961
Read it and find out, anon. Or check the archives if you're really interested.

>>20747966
seems like a bigger commitment than "read it and find out" would usually be enough to justify that's why I'm asking, also because it's a big fantasy book written by an otherwise pretty pulpy writer

>>20747976
Is reading two or three chapters to find out if you'll like it that much of a commitment?

>>20747980
I've already read more than that but that's rarely a good indication of whether you'll like or even consider it a worthwhile read by the end

>>20747982
>I've already read more than that but that's rarely a good indication of whether you'll like or even consider it a worthwhile read by the end
I really doubt, anon, but keep making excuses.

>>20747982
> I've already read more than that but that's rarely a good indication of whether you'll like
You read more than a couple of chapters and yet, somehow, you’re still undecided?

>>20747931
He says he doesn't feel strong symptoms though. I've got it right now as well and I've barely felt anything. Who knows? He might feel a steep drop in health over the coming week, but I'm sure he'll pull through. Long covid will suck potentially.

>>20748044
>Long covid

>>20748054
We can talk critically about these things but governments the world over are ignoring the risks of COVID so they can open up the economy and force you back into work like a little wageslave.

>>20748071
>everyone in the economy is a wageslave
I guess we should all just fucking die instead.

>>20748072
The majority of people in the economy are wage slaves, otherwise there'd be no incentive to do anything. The number of bourgeois overlords are very small, and the emergence of the bourgeois of all bourgeois, the billionaires, is increasingly stratifying society. We let Bezos and Zuckerberg control nearly everything about how we think and interact in society now, including our books and how we communicate. Moot, praise be upon him, was our one saving grace but he left us when we needed him most.

>>20748085
If you still wanna chat, hit me up after your 25th birthday

Finished this today and absolutely loved it, genuinely shaken. Where do I go with the Strugatskys from here? Other than this I've only read Roadside Picnic. I've read that it was their biggest undertaking, so I imagine everything else will be lighter in comparison, probably going to read Hard To Be A God next.

>>20748091
I am 24, so I'm not that underage. I work at Corpo-University Inc. and have to be around mouth-breathing 30-or-40-something losers who have never even read a book cover to cover, all they while they have accepted their lot in life: making bureaucratic decisions and budgets for academic retards who are too stupid to do even that, whilst we get a corporate goal of tricking even more young, impressionable teenagers to take degrees in things that are useless for the sake of "planning" for Globo Homo. I know you have given up and enjoy this small time on Earth by eating the goy slop, but some of us are planning the beta rebellion.

>>20748085
>We let Bezos and Zuckerberg control nearly everything about how we think and interact in society now
There's no "we" in engineered billionaires.

>>20748111
this
they are figureheads and you need to look higher

>>20748107
>subject yourself to a bad environment
>have convinced yourself the entire world is just like your little shit pile
Al dente

>>20748144
Which country doesn't have corporations? I tried to get into lolbertianism because a lot of good sci fi writers flirted with it, but it's simply a pipe dream when billionaires control the planet's resources and most of the people in it.

>>20748149
I just... I'm sorry for saying anything you win please don't say any more.
Let's talk about patches, I like patches. You gonna pick up a cool jazz? I'm debating whether or not I should wait.

>>20748162
Good goy.

>>20747902
Neon Harvest

>>20748163

All this sperging out just because I pointed out George has the china cough lol

>>20748169
Reddit.

>>20748165
You can't shill your book here if it only has 8 reviews at the moment bruh. Be more subtle.

>>20748169
Next time don't bring off-topic bullshit.

>>20748169
see >>20748188

>>20748149
>le billionaires need ot be stopped!
Such a reddit take.

>>20748205
You would know, would you? Go back.

Is Planet of the Apes worth reading if I know the ending?

>>20748214
Uh oh redditor's projecting.

>>20748215
Read it to find out.

>>20748220
Mate, you need to take this place less seriously. When did you blow in, buddy? And "projection" is something the fact bearded philosophy PhD student told me I was doing in class because he was obsessed with pop psychology and Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

>>20748223
This is why people stop reading.

>>20748227
The majority of people stopped reading in the 50s because there's so much other media that is cheap as fuck and easier to consume. Once there was less money made publishing short stories in Weird Tales or even Collier's, that meant there was less resources for writers to get feedback, and eventually there was no support for emerging spergs to write their good stories. I think it's kind of sad but it emerged from the market.

>>20748226
You are going on some very strange tangents there, redditbro.

>>20748188
>>20748194
Fuck you

>>20748237
That fat faggot said that too. And he was also really into science fiction micro fiction because he was "too busy" doing his PhD.
Take this place less seriously and you might find that you can be like the rest of us. It's a social club you can never leave.

>>20748241
Only someone of above average intelligence could come up with a cope this retarded. So you've got that going for you.

>>20748258
I have no use for this accursed above average intelligence because my midwittery has led me down so many dark paths, astray and crying out in the cold, inhospitable night, doomed forevermore to misunderstand the philosophers and auteurs of a golden age. Instead, let us frolic upon the rollicking boards of 4chan together, nakedly and innocently like brothers and sisters upon the beaches of Delos. I'm now gonna read Fifth Head of Cerberus and misunderstand the puzzling paradoxical pickles of Wolfe's literary permutations.

>>20748272
>I have no use for this accursed above average intelligence because my midwittery has led me down so many dark paths, astray and crying out in the cold, inhospitable night, doomed forevermore to misunderstand the philosophers and auteurs of a golden age. Instead, let us frolic upon the rollicking boards of 4chan together
Seek mental help.

>>20748272

>>20748236
Reading is one of the cheapest forms of entertainment there is, both in terms of publication and production. The problem with reading is it's low density. Visual medium is just faster and more precise at information transmission. Reading nowadays in terms of entertainment is only good for novelty as it gives the author perfect creative control, the medium itself is limited and inefficient.

In practical terms this means it can take much more time into a book to realize you fucking hate it than with other mediums, and it's much harder to spread communicate what makes a book good the way you can sell an anime to someone on a single webm. This means that on top of being more likely to waste time on something you don't want to finish, it's harder to search for things you actually like.

>>20748283
>Reading is one of the cheapest forms of entertainment there is, both in terms of publication and production.
I guess you're right about that but I meant cheap as in: it costs $10-20 per story when I could go on CrunchyRoll or Netflix for a fraction of that per month for a bunch of stories. I think as a consumer, it makes little sense to spend a sum of your salary on something that, as you say, may be terrible for your tastes. It's hard to tell what you will like from a sample or even the first half of the book. Stories are a good pasttime but there's really no magazines now that foster either a readership OR the skills of their potential authors who they should be building a relationship with, especially in terms of what is just objectively expected of a writer, as well as industry standards. We did have lots of writers (like Kurt Vonnegut) who started off not knowing what they were doing but who became household names in a matter of years, all thanks to editors and slush pile readers who BOTHERED to give feedback (which just doesn't happen anymore).

>>20748299
>cruchyroll
are you the creator of hi and lois
because you are making me laugh

>>20748299
> it costs $10-20 per story
Describing literature and saying that books cost $10-20 per story is like describing cinema and saying that it costs $50-60 per movie by going off prices of expanded Blu-ray releases of new blockbusters.

Most books are literally fucking free dawg.

>>20748307
are you a poultry farmer
because you sure know how to raise a COCK

>>20748318
They're also easier to pirate than music. The reason they don't circulate as much as music is because they suck at circulating inherently.

>>20748320
Anon, that's kinda homosexual gay stuff.

>>20748318
>Most books are literally fucking free dawg.
Libraries in my town suck unless you go to one from the research university, which most people don't even go to if they're an average pleb. I guess they could apply for a library card but I doubt they know they could.
I also have two kindles with a bunch of libgen downloaded stuff on it, as well as just epubs I read on my computer. Even I find it hard to enjoy reading on e-ink or screen because I like paper and actually read faster with paper. Do you think normies give two shits enough to download that shit for free? That's ignoring all the pleasure people get out of simply buying things.

>>20748325
Please present your arguments as to why books are easier to pirate than music. As someone who pirates both, I do not see this.

>>20748336
no

>>20748339
Anon please I'm begging you. I'm wracking my head over how your statement fits into reality and I just can't figure it out. Give me the information I'm missing, help me!

>>20748344
Yeah, no.

>>20748352
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>20748336
Much, much smaller filesize relative to consumption time. You could stream books on dialup. The extremely low size requirements makes hosting and redistribution laughably trivial. Any accessibility issues you encounter are thus related to unfamiliarity, or people just not giving enough of a fuck about books to redistribute them, which comes back to them being bad at circulating.

>>20748355
>pirate
>stream

>or people just not giving enough of a fuck about books to redistribute them, which comes back to them being bad at circulating.
So basically it's not that they're easier to pirate, it's that you have latched onto one or two advantages their format has over music files and have chosen to ignore literally everything else that tips the scale in the other direction.

>>20748361
>pirate
>stream
What do you think illegal streaming sites get shut down for constantly?
>So basically it's not that they're easier to pirate, it's that you have latched onto one or two advantages their format has over music files and have chosen to ignore literally everything else that tips the scale in the other direction.
Technical capacity vs availability. Sorry but you don't get to decide my own semantics for me. There are individual torrents on /t/ with hundreds of scifi/fiction books archived under a single magnet, that's easily easier than downloading hundreds of games/movies/songs individually or even in a single, terabytes-large torrent and storing them on your computer.
>b-but the literalwho books
Literalwho games, songs, and videos exist too.

>>20748373
>What do you think illegal streaming sites get shut down for constantly?
Being so bad at piracy as to be reasonably called not piracy
>that's easily easier than downloading hundreds of games/movies/songs individually or even in a single
Tell me how I know you don't do any more piracy than a normie

>b-but
Your ass, do not assume my response fuck boy.

Any wuxia, xianxia novels that are as well written as Lord of Mysteries? I'm craving for long 700+ chapter long works

So, Blood Music was really really good. It's short, but it has a lot in it, a lot of different modes. The beginning of the story with Vergil and the biochip company and his friend and girlfriend could be their own story, but it's just one section of this novel. It touches on a post-apoc sort of vibe with people exploring the city and landscape, but it's just a taste. Greg Bear doesn't try any asspulls, he realizes the implications of the premise and sees it through. To the extent that the characters are almost pointless, and their little subplots don't go anywhere. It gets very philosophical and beautiful at the end.

>>20748377
>Being so bad at piracy as to be reasonably called not piracy
>Tell me how I know you don't do any more piracy than a normie
I accept your concession
>Your ass, do not assume my response fuck boy.
Assuming you'd make an argument instead of going salty shitposter mode was giving too much credit, I suppose.

>>20748378
although not very long, Jin Yong’s works are surprisingly well translated and well written for a Wuxia, which is given seeing who Jin Yong is.

>>20748393
There is no amount of word fuckery you could pull to make that a concession, you're simply lying.
>Assuming you'd make an argument instead of going salty shitposter mode was giving too much credit, I suppose.
Assuming you'd make an argument instead of going salty shitposter mode was giving too much credit, I suppose.
See the joke? You never made an argument in the first place retard. What the fuck makes you think I'm going to respond to your semantic shit posting with specifically the argument you want.

Holy shit you're retarded

Water sleeps

>>20748405
>abandons any pretext of a good faith discussion
>noooo why aren't you taking me seriously anymore
Assburgers.

>>20748421
I finished black company and loved it, will I like the dread empire? I heard it's unfinished or something

>>20748423
How can I abandon something you never established. Your cope isn't sticking, try better.

>>noooo why aren't you taking me seriously anymore
>Assburgers.
lmao at this projection, I said do better not worse.

>>20748439
>no u
>and also no u
Ebin for the win dude

>>20748447
>how dare you no u my piss poor attempt at no u, N- NO U!
I SAID DO BETTER

>>20748448
>stutterposting
Someone's tryharding

>>20748457
Doing better entails originality, cmon you can do it.

>>20748425
It is finished, it's also really good.
It's more modern in the way that it has multiple PoV characters, both good guys and bad guys.

The issue with the last book is that the publishers forced cook to do it 20years later, he wasn't planning on finishing it originally because he lost his notes. But then the publishers threatened to force Erikson to write the ending so cook gave in and did the last book.
He does tie up most things but it felt a bit rushed and a few things I and I think others would have liked to see explored more got left alone. It's still a good conclusion to a long series and each book has it's own plotlines so its all a very good read.

>>20748458
>originality
Says the copycat

>>20748484
Oops, sorry. Incorrect. If you review the exchange you'll find that you are in fact the only one to have copied anything. One more try?

Such a breath of fresh air after only reading Webnovels and newer books for the last few years. I've almost forgot how a classical fantasy tale looks like. I enjoyed this strangely naturalistic tale of a young Dragon, who eats little humans, reads up ancient philosophy and thinks about finding a Dragon wife and making hatchling with her, while at the same time worrying to Dragonelle would want him due to his lack of scales. A classical young-male story, but from a Dragon's eyes. It's not amazing, dialogues have that poetic flair of old fantasy, but aside of that do not punch above their weigh. Info-dumps on the world-bulding could also be presented better, but I appreciate what the author attempted there.

7/10, would read about a Dragon eating human children again.

PS: The story says that the common myth of Dragons kidnapping young women has its origins in young male Dragons going mad with lack of Dragon pussy, lmao

>>20748489
>no u
See? Copycatting.

>>20748497
Final score, zero. Better luck next time.

>>20748522
Zoomer's bedtime has arrived I see.

>>20748692
tfw when you crawl back an hour later just to slap someone with a limp wrist and cum dripping from your lips

>>20748448
>>20748457
>>20748489
>>20748522
>>20748692
>>20748696
Can you fucking take it outside?

Janny, can you do your job and remove these retards from our thread? Lately this general is fucking unreadable, everyone who wants to discuss books is screeched upon by literal schizos, spamming and shitting everywhere. Why the fuck is this still a thing

>>20748696
>tfw when
Newfag detected, not that it wasn't obvious or anything.

>>20748714
You do know that you have to report the posts, right?

New thread
>>20748721

New thread >>20748720

>>20748722
This is the one.

>>20748726
Nope, the one that has a Dragon si always better. It could burn your little boat in a second

>>20748726
The art is cooler, and I do love me post-apocalypse settings.

>>20748723
Why’d you even make a second thread?

>>20748730
post-apocalypse novels are really underrated.

>>20748723
This >>20748734 why even make a second thread?

>>20748714
>>20748717

>>20748378
Mao Ni (Way of Choices, Nightfall)
Personally think he's a better writer than cuttlefish

>>20748734
>>20748754
The first guy was 11 seconds faster, literally

>>20748771
are you going to delete your thread at least? So there won’t be any confusion?

>>20748717
Honestly, I don't how. I tried to find the option, but didn't manage to. Is it only for paying users?

>>20748776
Please tell me your joking.

>>20748776
Its the blue arrow next to the post number, anon.

>>20748716
>trying to bait me into saying no u
No.

>>20748788
>>20748802
Ah fuck, I thought it's just a part of 'respond' button. Thanks anon