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We like to joke about women talking about a man's bookshelf and how certain books are red flags to them.

But what is a red flag to see on a woman's bookshelf?

>> No.20678128

>>20678113
Astrology shit

>> No.20678135

>>20678113
Exclusively YA

>> No.20678136

>>20678128
more for me

I'd probably bolt if I saw Hillary Clinton books, or anything by someone like Dworkin

>> No.20678146

>>20678113
Psychoanalysis
Man-hating feminist shite

>> No.20678152

Sally Trooney and Ducls, Newburyshlock

>> No.20678157

>>20678113
Any book on psychology ever published

>> No.20678158

>>20678113
Flavor-of-the-month political books written by talking heads or journalists

>> No.20678159

>>20678113
Shelves and shelves of YA fantasy series

>> No.20678176
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>>20678136
>someone like Dworkin
I don't think a Dworkin protégé would be in the heterosexual dating pool to begin with

>> No.20678182

>>20678159
That's literally 50% of women.

>> No.20678190

>>20678146
yeah this, especially psychoanalysis

>> No.20678192

>>20678113
critical theory
preponderately female authors
gender studies
extremely worn-out copy of Madame Bovary
Michelle Obama and Hilary Clinton books
new atheist shit
a lack of books on art and poetry

>> No.20678211

anything that isnt the bible

>> No.20678244

anything with a cutesy font that looks like handwriting

>> No.20678257

>>20678113
Redflags that she's living in her own world remote from reality and can't stand violence or real adult subjects: YA, fantasy, garbage scifi, astrology

Redflags that I'd be impossible to talk with her and make a decent family: feminist theory, watered-down psychology, psychoanalysis, books written by politicians

>> No.20678261

>>20678135
>>20678159
>>20678244
If you're ruling out women for them acting childish, boy have I some news for you

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>>20678113

>> No.20678288

>>20678272
kek

>> No.20678311

>>20678113
Anna Karenina

>> No.20678518

>>20678311
any Tolstoy would be green flag for me

>> No.20678523

>>20678146
Psychoanalysis is based

>> No.20678545

>>20678113
anything that isn't a family recipe book

>> No.20678564

I haven't played a videogame in a long while, but I'll date a girl with good taste in games over one with bad taste in literature any day. fetishizing books is not a sign of someone with a healthy self-image in any case.

>> No.20678570

>>20678113
Milk and Honey. Might at least be a good fuck, though.

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>> No.20678586

Astrology, liberal feminism, anything right wing.

>> No.20678591

>>20678113
I mean, if a woman has voluntarily read a book that's a green flag for me.

>> No.20678608

>>20678591
>>20678113 (OP)
I mean, if a woman has voluntarily read a book that's a red flag for me.

>> No.20678615

Bukowski, burroughs, kerouac.
Bpd is not cute.

>> No.20678617

>>20678591
>>20678608
the duality of man

>> No.20678618

>>20678608
>>20678591
I mean, if a woman has voluntarily read a book that's a orange flag for me.

>> No.20678619

>>20678192
>>20678146
>>20678545
>>/pol/

>> No.20678622

>>20678619
GOTTEM

>> No.20678663

>>20678192
>extremely worn-out copy of Madame Bovary
That would indicate they are based. Most women hate Madame Bovary because Emma doesn't get away with her infidelity. They also loathe Charles to the utmost degree. Most women can't even finish Madame Bovary.
You seem to view women as men, and boy do I have news for you if that's how you are.

>> No.20678678

>>20678113
Shit poetry books from the last 10 years and YA.
I'd ghost her immediately, know your worth.

>> No.20678725

>>20678261
>t. manchild

>> No.20678729
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dont care
im too ugly to register to any women

>> No.20678737

>>20678729
Prove it.

>> No.20678747

>>20678737
i'm 24, been in university upwards of 5 years doing my undergrad and postgrad and a woman is still yet to make physical contact with me

>> No.20678749

>>20678747
Prove it.

>> No.20678755

>>20678749
what i cannot provide evidence of i cannot prove

>> No.20678760

>>20678755
Correct.

>> No.20678966

>>20678749
i know him, i can confirm that he is absolutely correct

>> No.20678971

>>20678113
a shelf dedicated to midwit fantasy written by women or any YA shit

>> No.20679061

>>20678113
Having a gf with good taste is definitely cool but it's massively overrated by nerds imo. It's pretty cool especially at the beginning of the relationship but I'd rather date someone chill than someone with "good taste" (according to me) which almost certainly ensures they are a degenerate depressed piece of shit (like me). You don't want a dummy who doesn't read at all but if she's into her own shit that's not to my taste who cares.

>>20678272
yeah so i'm basically saying this but unironically

>>20678176
My ex, believe it or not, liked Dworkin. I didn't know enough about her ideas but it 100% should have been a red flag.

>> No.20679157

>>20678113
I'd say anything that is overly political as in radical feminism, wokeism or stuff like that. The female counterpart of chuds pretty much.

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>>20679157
>I'd say anything that is overly political as in radical feminism, wokeism or stuff like that. The female counterpart of chuds pretty much.
this nigger is literally never going to get laid lmao

>> No.20679172

>>20678518
Thank god, some sanity. If I see a collection of Tolstoy's short fiction, full simp mode and no regrets.

>> No.20679175

>>20679167
GOTTEM

>> No.20679178

Harry Potter
White Fragility

>> No.20679182

Hegel.
If you like Hegel, you have a penis. That's all there is to it.

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>>20678113
>your woman can read

>> No.20679215

>>20679167
I don't live in the US, wokeism is still pretty marginal over here.

>> No.20679408
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>>20678257
I'm a guy and I like to live in my own world. I only read science fiction, fantasy, YA. I don't like extreme violence and the only non-fiction I read is about sports.

>> No.20679731

>woman
>literate
Why? What's the point?

>> No.20679848
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>>20678113

>> No.20680097

>>20678272
>Bible at 64
into the trash it goes

>> No.20680119

>>20678128
That's a green flag for great sex though.

>> No.20680122

>>20678113
Idk I would never take a woman seriously in any intellectual capacity

>> No.20680126

>>20679408
You will never be a jedi.

>> No.20680168

>>20678113
Lord of the Rings
Manga
Non-Fiction works

>> No.20680212

>>20678113
If it's not a cookbook it's a red flag.

>> No.20680214

>>20678113
Sylvia Plath

>> No.20680288

>>20678113
Women with a bookshelf are a redflag unless it just contains religious lit

>> No.20680292

>>20680288
And ofcourse cookbooks

>> No.20680322
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>>20678619
/pol/ is the soul of this godforsaken website, chud.

>> No.20680851

>>20678113
anything that makes it clear she's stupid.
YA paperbacks,
live laugh love signs,
instagram poetry,
capeshit comics

Psychoanalysis is a green flag ackshually.

>> No.20680912

>>20678113
I’ve met exactly one girl who “reads” in my life, and she doesn’t really read. She takes 6 months to a year to partially complete a book before abandoning it and picking up something else. I don’t think it’s something you really need to worry about

>> No.20680933

>>20678157
Chances are if you meet a bitch that has one of those books, you'll know well before you see her shelves.

>> No.20680937

>>20678158
This. That shit is 90% of twitter anyway

>> No.20680946

>>20678113
Who is she?

>> No.20680959

>>20680851
whens the last time you had sex

>> No.20680965

>>20680851
this

>> No.20681021

>>20678591
>>20678618
I mean, if a woman has voluntarily read a book that's a North Korean flag for me.

>> No.20681061

>>20680959
when was the last time you read a book that wasn't the female equivalent of capeshit

>> No.20681067

>>20681061
i finished reading project hail mary yesterday

>> No.20681110

>>20678591
>I mean, if a woman has voluntarily read a book that's a empty flagpole for me.

>> No.20681152

>>20678663
Do women hate Anna Karenina too?

>> No.20681168

Anything related to academic pursuits. They're children, and they become annoying when they start to act like they're adults.

>> No.20681172

>>20678113
I went on a date with a girl who was obsessed with Rumi Kapur. I took her home, read her some Neruda (i.e. a real poet), fucked her and then never called her back. Hope the experience was educational..

>> No.20681177

>>20678113
>We like to joke about women talking about a man's bookshelf and how certain books are red flags to them
No, we don't.

>> No.20681181

>>20679848
Why Hemingway?

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>>20678113
>But what is a red flag to see on a woman's bookshelf?
What you call a red flag a real man calls a cry for help.

If your girl has a room, and the room has a bookshelf, and the bookshelf contains books, here's what you do.

1) While she is lying semi-conscious in post-coital bliss, rise brisky from bed.

2) Cross to bookshelf.

3) Sweep all those colour-co-ordinated Rupi Kaur & J.K.Rowling tomes into a large black plastic bag.

4) Take the bag to the trash.

5) Put three new books on her shelf. This one...

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>>20681194

... this one ...

>> No.20681199

>>20678617
Why the fuck there is always a redditor to post this shit? This wasn't funny not even in the first 57234 times you niggers posted it.

>> No.20681202
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>>20681198

... and this one.

>> No.20681205

>>20678113
Niqqa I want to fuck her pussy not her library

>> No.20681212

>>20681205
This is why every post in this thread is bullshit. Aint nobody about to get that pussy glancing at her shelf and being like NOPE NO DICK FOR YOU TONIGHT BABY and dips. 100% virgin daydream.

>> No.20681225

>>20681212
This thread is about not sticking your dick in crazy.
Every rational man knows you should not stick your dick in crazy.

>> No.20681230

>>20681225
Thats is also virgin speak. Crazy pussy is the best pussy. Just don't give crazy your full name or addy and you're good.

>> No.20681235

>>20681230
Ironic

>> No.20681248

>>20678113
self help. i mean its not bad . then there psychology, if shes not in a class for it. she wants to either learn about you or manipulate some how.

>> No.20681251

>>20680168
>Lord of the Rings
Girls don't read this you idiot. At best they'll read tripe written by a chick like Mists of Avalon or something

>> No.20681263

Ernaux, Lorde, Nelson, Ferrante, Woolf, YA shit, graphic novels, lack of philosophy, lack of serious poetry, etc.

>> No.20681266

>>20678113
Anything. Women should not read.

>> No.20681344

>>20681152
>>20678663
women love those books because women love to comment on fictional or real people all the fucking time. And women being devoid of introspection, they dont see that they lead the same life of the women they condemn

>> No.20681351

>>20678113
Anything about feminism.

>> No.20681353

>>20678113
>Wicca, New Age occult shit
>Disney anything
>Nora Roberts tier romance novels
>YA, Harry Potter et. al.
>Chuck Palahniuk


>>20678192
>extremely worn-out copy of Madame Bovary
lmao

>> No.20681358

>>20678211
>>20678244
>>20678288
>>20678311
>>20678622
>>20678755
>>20678966
>>20680122
>>20680288
>>20680322
>>20680933
>>20681177
>>20681199
>>20681266
>>20681344
so many dubs left unchecked in this thread

>> No.20681388

>>20681067
>science fiction isn't capeshit

captcha: GAYP8

>> No.20681408

>>20680097
Exactly shouldn’t even be on the list

>> No.20681410

>>20678966
thank you based knower

>> No.20681413

>>20681181
not written for women so she will probably become a man during your relationship

>> No.20681422
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>>20681358
Beautiful

>> No.20681425

>>20678113
Psychology books

>> No.20681426

>>20681422
impressive, very nice

>> No.20681438

>>20678113
Maybe a controversial take, but I like that my wife isn't into literature because it means I can keep it a solitary activity

The women I've dated have all been daddy-issue-ridden goth girls preoccupied with horror and/or psychology, and the woman I married reads almost exclusively feminist-slanted medical science and YA fantasy, but even these aren't absolute red-flags, because they're so far outside my ken that I have no obligation to have an opinion, and so conflict is avoided

>> No.20681451

>>20678113
Victorian literature. Generally read by middle to upper class liberal cunts who grew up in a university town or by frumpy women with rich parents. They normally have no clue how privileged they are. It might be a misogynistic period in history, but that gives them all they need to pretend to critique it. They're our feminine pseud counterparts.

>> No.20681934

>>20679848
i knew a woman with everything from that list except hemmingway and herman

>> No.20681962

Most YA stuff is relatively benign by itself. For me it's neutral. Real flags would be a complete absence of actual authors (and I'm not even particularly demanding on this front) and material that signalled she's got the meme politics of the terminally online.

>> No.20681990

>>20678113
Whos the art hoe op?

>> No.20681998

What to Expect When You Are Expecting

>> No.20682049

>>20678135
Why is it called "Young Adult" fiction if it's written and read exclusively by 30+ year old women

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>>20678190
>>20678146
>>20678157
>>20678257
>>20681425
Why all the hate for psychology/psychoanalysis?

>> No.20682076

>>20682065
The bitch will try to play mind games

>> No.20682087

>>20678113
books only written by women.

>> No.20682091

>>20678113
Anything left-wing is a deal breaker

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>>20678591
>>20678608
>>20678617
>>20678618
>>20681021
>>20681110

You have to go back

>> No.20682187

>>20678523
Based on the voices inside Freud's head, you mean.

>> No.20682349

>>20681225
All women are a bit crazy. It is mostly what you make of them. Obv. from their baseline i.e. negress of fat council estate skank won't change.

>> No.20682413

>>20681426
let's Paul Owen's dubs

>> No.20682744

>>20678113
What if a woman has Bronze Age Mindset on her shelf?
Is is a red or green flag?

>> No.20682840

>>20678113
Foucault

>> No.20682902

>>20678113
>But what is a red flag to see on a woman's bookshelf?
Anything that /lit/ approved.

>> No.20682904

>>20682744
Either a dominitrix or butch lesbain or something

>> No.20682927

>>20682065
men on psychoanalysis
>how can i improve myself and my life
women on psychoanalysis
>how can i improve him and my life

>> No.20682935

>>20681251
My buddy considers Mists Of Avalon his favorite book

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>>20682164
That's a checkered flag for me

>> No.20682969

>>20678113
if she's attractive idc what she reads but ambitious books are unwelcome because that signals woman will pose as an intellectual to artifically inflate her cost

>> No.20683013

>>20679848
>hesse
What's wrong with Steppenwolf? Or even Siddhartha for that matter?

>> No.20683864

women can read whatever they want unless they

>> No.20683974

>>20682065
it's basically the way to rearrange their brain into casual sex

>> No.20683991

>>20678570
Can confirm both facets of this argument.

>> No.20684006

>>20678211
My moms favorite book is the Bible

>> No.20684009

>>20680168
I will fuck a woman for every item on this list

>> No.20684533

>>20678113
That's a man right?

>> No.20684546

>>20678272
Is Valis worth checking out? I've only read Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep

>> No.20684593

>>20678113
None
I'm an atheist communist scientist and I fall in love EXCLUSIVELY with vegan buddhist astrology girls

>> No.20684757

any western philosophy

>> No.20685107

Is Robert Greene a red flag?

>> No.20685301

>>20681177
What books are a red flag to a woman?

>> No.20685311

>>20684006
my mum has never even tried to read the Bible and she's a catholic who has been attending the church every Sunday for decades

>> No.20685334

>>20678113
Harry Potter and the communist manifesto meaning she believes in fairy tales

>> No.20685351

>>20678113
The Handmaid's Tale

>> No.20685364

>>20678113
The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay

>> No.20685475

>>20685311
yeah? catholics never read the bible, what's so surprising about that lmao

>> No.20685480

>>20678113
Any woke shit. Period. Especially nigger stuff.

>> No.20685494

>>20678158
>Hates on books because they're trendy
>reads whatever /lit is pedaling

>> No.20685525

>>20678113
Anything feminist

>> No.20685620

>>20681388
and what exactly do you read?

>> No.20686304

>>20678128
Fpbp

>> No.20686308

>>20685311
I guess that's you, mine has

>> No.20686324

>>20678564
Unless you play your games for an hour a day you are a certified loser. At least books require you to use your imagination.

>> No.20686340

>>20678564
By fetishizing books you mean beating off to photos of libraries?

>> No.20686619

>>20686340
lmao

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for the love of God op who is pic related
I just want the arthoes name

>> No.20687115

>>20685494
I hate those books because they're shallow versions of real politics manufactured for low-brow retards

>> No.20687197

>>20678113
I can has sex with her plz?

>> No.20687418

>>20678128
>Astrology shit
Unless she's a mesopotamian scholar, or something, and the books featuring astrology are titled like:
"Heavenly Writing. Divination and Horoscopy, and Astronomy in Mesopotamian Culture" (2004)
"In the Path of the Moon. Babylonian Celestial Divination and Its Legacy" (2010)
"Before Nature. Cuneiform Knowledge and the History of Science" (2017)

Knowing the difference might save your life.

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>>20682065
>Why all the hate for
>psychoanalysis?
Because you'd want to fuck your own mother and castrate your father for some Oedipus trauma you've got.

>> No.20687626

>>20678113
I don't think I've ever been to a woman's house who had actual books in her shelves outside using old college textbooks as paperweights or book ends for her DVD collection. The only women I know who read at all (less than 10% of them) do it exclusively on their phones or an e-reader, and they read like 80% "romance" porn novels, 10% crime novels about male murderers (another form of porn for women), and 10% general drama and fantasy fiction.

So given that this is what I've observe to be the female norm, I suppose I'd be suspicious of girls who had a book collection at all, or commonly read any kind of books that weren't romance, crime, or fantasy related.

>> No.20687665

>>20687494
Pseud detected. Read Lacan

>> No.20687768

>>20684546
Pretty fun read imo. It's a light novel that stills manages to get across some meaningful concepts and ideas.

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>> No.20688145

>>20687782
>not including Obama's best book, Dreams From My Father
this is the worst point

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>>20682744

>> No.20688560

>>20678128
Yeah, unless it's a well read person that happens to be interested in the topic out of curiosity or to laugh at people that believe in astrology

>> No.20688682

>>20680851
YA hardcover okay?

>> No.20688706

>>20688682
>buying YAshit in hardback
why lmao

>> No.20688710

>>20682744
ran through e-girl without a doubt has BPD and has more bodies than the average whore.
It's so easy mode being a woman, all you have to do is go "I'm le based" and men will forget every single disloyalty because you are "le based"

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>>20687418
No shit, I was talking about surface level new age shit, not academic works on historical divination

>> No.20689147

>>20678272
Awful parochial list. A disproportionate number written in English, and almost none written in a non-European language.

>> No.20689167

>>20678591
Same for men. There's too many who barely read anything.

>> No.20689172

>>20689147
There just aren’t that many good bookS written by non-Europeans.

>> No.20689180

>>20681230
I'm jealous of men that they can think like that. The corollary for women, 'don't let crazy stick its dick it you', has an implied 'because you might get fucking murdered'.

>> No.20689195

>>20678113
More like picrel?
Need worship material.

>> No.20689197

Anything by Rainbow Rowell
Any alternate history fiction shit
Handmaid's Tale

>> No.20689203

>>20689172
Sure there are. China alone has an expansive literary tradition that you could spend your life wandering through (provided you read Chinese, as only a relatively small amount is translated.)

>> No.20689208

>>20678113
As a woman, thank you for telling me what books to display to avoid the sort of men who post here.

>> No.20689210

>>20689180
Idk how dumb you have to be to think that crazy women aren’t gonna kill you, turn around and claim you attempted to rape them and receive sympathy.

>> No.20689216

>>20689210
Statistically, one is FAR more common than the other.

>> No.20689227

>>20689203
If they were good they would get translated.

>> No.20689238

>>20689227
Or China has a multi-millennia literary tradition and has only been in extensive contact with the West for a small portion of it in which for it to be translated. There's an extensive amount available in translation, but it's the tip of the iceberg.

>> No.20689252

>>20689216
What’s your point? People shouldn’t be wary of crazy women bc it’s more likely a crazy man kills a women tonight than that you get murdered?

>> No.20689263

>>20689252
Some wariness is always appropriate, but the risk, and therefore the level of caution called for, is far higher for women.

>> No.20689269

>>20689238
The ratio between how long a tradition has existed and how long it has been in contact with other cultures is a kind of weird way to go, not quite sure what you’re trying to prove there. Even if you only take the last two decades, there is a huge financial incentive to translate books that are gonna blow people away. It hasn’t happened yet. Chinese books just aren’t that good.

>> No.20689270

Sylvia Plath, Virginia Woolf and Rupi Kaur are the ones that would concern me the most.

>> No.20689275

>>20689269
Some of the most heartrending poems I've ever read were in Chinese.

>> No.20689293

>>20689263
So you’re jealous of men who joke about crazy women, bc there’s a incredibly small chance a crazy guy will murder you. And you’re justified in that belief, bc guys needn’t be as weary, as their small chance is somewhat smaller?

>> No.20689301

>>20689275
>complains that /lit/s top 100 books are mainly euro language
>China has good poems

Are you having a laugh mate?

>> No.20689405

>>20689208
>>20689208
t. on the cock carousel

>> No.20689413

>>20678113
Unirocally an unabridged edition of das kapital

>> No.20689520

>>20689293
Lot smaller.

>> No.20689530

>>20689301
No? I genuinely find pieces like 江城子・乙卯正月二十日夜記夢 or 琵琶行 heartrending.
>>20689405
I've had sex once to date, and it was with another woman.
>>20689413
Hey, at least she's actually diving into the theory instead of repeating superficial understandings of 'socialism' because it's cool among her friends.

>> No.20689560

>>20678113
Witch shit
Hardcover astrology shit
That Milk and Honey book
20 different Manga/comic series never going past 2 volumes
Guide books on starting an Ecommerce business
Hardcover video game guide books

>> No.20689607

>>20678615
It's quirky and you're ableist scum for writing that!
JK, run from that shit or anything else in the DSMV, regardless of whether it's self diagnosed or even if they're actively medicated. Lithium toxicity is a thing, those pills won't work forever, and some days they may just wake up and see what life is like without meds.
If some sweet girl ever confides in you that she suspects most mental illness can be overcome by bettering one's personal situation and spending time with out door hobbies wife her immediately and have lots of babies that grow up with analog toys and no screens.

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>>20689560
>Witch shit

>> No.20689681
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>>20678113
Anything at all.

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>>20689649
>witches are one of the few cultural figures of female empowerment that don't derive their power from their relationship to a man
Who is Satan?

>> No.20689700

>>20689694
Satan isn't a man, he's a fallen angel, but most witches today also don't believe in Satan.

>> No.20689737

>>20681251
My gf is currently reading LotR and loving it.
>inb4 trans
Nope, just enjoys good books

>> No.20689861

>>20689530
Theory is one thing, 1000 pages of Marx's economical autism is another.

>> No.20689868

>>20689649
>GIVE ME POWER
sweety... that's not how power works

>> No.20689873

>>20689868
Hey, didn't say it's actual power. They said it's a cultural figure of power.

>> No.20689890

>>20689649
It's not empowerment if it's a teenage phase.

>> No.20689891

>>20689530
>I genuinely find pieces like 江城子・乙卯正月二十日夜記夢 or 琵琶行 heartrending.
Are there any good translations of these that you'd recommend? I'm interested in getting into chinese poetry

>> No.20689892

>>20689868
a lot of women are chronic normies just like a lot of men are, and they think the people who have power are politicians and well-off white people rather than deep state agents, the WEG, (((familial wealth serf-owners))) and advertisers.

>> No.20689901

>>20678113
>But what is a red flag to see on a woman's bookshelf?
Books.

>> No.20689920

>>20689890
Not actual empowerment, but driven by a drive for empowerment.
>>20689891
Frankly, reading a poem in translation is like kissing a beautiful woman through a veil, as the saying goes. But it's better than nothing. Honestly, though, especially for poems like those that aren't very long I'd suggest looking for multiple translations to compare, so you can at least get some idea of the real meaning. For the first one the title to search is 'jiang cheng zi, su shi' and 'pipa xing'. I'll also share my own translation of the former:
>For ten years, this abyss between the living and the dead.
>It's not that I think of you
>so much as I couldn't forget you if I tried.
>Your lonely grave a thousand miles away,
>I have nowhere to talk about my bereavement.
>Even if we were to meet, I don't suppose we'd recognize each other,
>my face is covered in dust
>and my hair is like frost.

>Last night I dreamed that all of a sudden I was back home
>and at the window of our little home
>you were there, combing your hair, doing your makeup.
>We gaze at each other without words,
>just a thousand streams of tears.
>I suppose it'll continue to be a place of heartbreak, year after year
>under the light of the moon,
>the hill with the young pine trees.
I confess that I made no attempt to replicate the meter or rhyme scheme, though.

>> No.20689956

>>20689920
>Not actual empowerment, but driven by a drive for empowerment.
I'd call it cringe but I remember when I would close my eyes, reach into the air and pretend to destroy universes.

>> No.20690044

>>20689700
>Satan isn't a man
>he is
is he he/they or wut
pretty sure early jews would confirm you that God (and his Angels) are male.

>> No.20690052

>>20689208
>as a woman
touch grass, mate.

>> No.20690059

>>20690044
In Hebrew, God is a 'he'. But in Hebrew everything is either a 'he' or a 'she', even inanimate objects, because of how Hebrew grammar works.
>>20690052
???

>> No.20690082

>>20690059
>god or his angels are definately not women because they could've indeed expressed that; and they couldn't have thought about anything having no gender
is that your argument? you're not making that well of a logic or even just archeological, philological point here.
>>20690059
I inferred that no real women browse this board. Especially at this globally ungodly hour where on a saturday evening in the US no reasonable person would browse this board instead of having fun and in Europe no one reasonablep ersone would still be awake or would wake up at 7-5am to browse a bhutanese pottery forum talking about Tang period Ru criticism of buddhism.

>> No.20690090

>>20690082
I'm not saying they couldn't have thought about something having no gender, I'm saying you can't talk about something in a genderless manner in Hebrew.
And I'm not sure what to say except... yeah, there aren't many, but we do exist.

>> No.20690098

>>20690090
>but we do exist
why? are you a neet? do you think you've failed in life?
half the anons here seem to think that of themselves and the other half has been here ever since they thought that and now work a dead end job instead, don't have time to be depressed anymore.
this manner of social interaction isn't that attractive even repulsive to women. no need to mince words there.

>> No.20690106

>>20690098
There is probably some women here who are holdovers from a bygone era. Personally I can’t see how any women can come here anymore. It’s bad enough coming here as a man

>> No.20690120

>>20690090
>we do exist.
If you want us to think you're a woman, don't use the most common tranny shibboleth in existence.

>> No.20690121

>>20686701
It doesn't matter, she will never have sex with you, or even acknowledge you.

>> No.20690196

>>20690106
faildaughters will never pick up the slack and marry the failsons. Sad!

>> No.20690208

>>20690196
Unfortunate and Unfair! People talk about black single mothers. Why does no one talk about single white bachelors?

>> No.20690220
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>>20682049
because wimmin r gay lol

>> No.20690231

>>20689293
kek assmad feminist btfo

>> No.20690234

>>20690208
>thinking "what about the menz" is funny in 2022
The left can't meme.

>> No.20690280

Foucault
Anything YA
that's really it

>> No.20690310

>>20690208
so true, we need to marry up all the otakus with them before things get out of hand

>> No.20690431

>>20678113
Anything astrology
Eat Pray Love
Ghost-written politician books

>> No.20690440

>>20690098
> this manner of social interaction isn't that attractive even repulsive to women. no need to mince words there.
Jesus fucking listen to yourself
It’s like you think all women are the types that have instagrams with 100s of selfies and hit the club every weekend

>> No.20690443

>>20680168
That's literally based and ideal though, all you'd need to do is add the Bible and it'd be 10/10

>> No.20690450

>>20678113
Anything I don't like.

>> No.20690478

>>20681990
>>20680946
a Polish YouTuber "zaksiążkowane"

>> No.20690522

>>20678113
It honestly doesn't matter to a man what a woman believes as long as she behaves herself.

>> No.20690547

>>20678755
Wtf this comment proves >>20678729

>> No.20690567

>>20682927
Sounds DEEPLY ARCHETYPAL to me, anon.

>> No.20690625

>>20682744
I like Bap but a women who likes Bap is a red flag

However if she has Paglia then she is the one

>> No.20690633

>>20678113
Philosophy not written by women

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>>20690121
I know I just need coooom material
pls

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>>20690940
>>20690478
Thanks mate

>> No.20691163

>>20689737
it sucks though. did you recommend it to her? She's just saying what you want to hear

>> No.20691169

>>20681194
>>20681198
>>20681202
Based and Redpilled.

>> No.20691172

>>20690443
>all you need is add the Bible to degenerate shitty japanese comics read by ugly fujos and she's 10/10

>> No.20691182

ya romance tiktok bullshit like sally rooney and colleen hoover

>> No.20691334

>>20678128
my gf is doing a training to be a certified astrologer. it includes a some general knowledge on newtonian physics(to calculate planet orbits, etc.), lots of knowledge on greek and roman history/mythology and some human psychology
seems pretty based to me

>> No.20691358

>>20678747
have you ever made any attempt

>> No.20691361

>>20679182
yeah but it’s estrogenized

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>>20689694
oh no

>> No.20691406

>>20690059
>But in Hebrew everything is either a 'he' or a 'she
so why isn't god a she, then, bitch?

>> No.20691435

>>20691406
>so why isn't god a she
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_of_the_Holy_Spirit#Grammatical_gender
"In Hebrew the word for Spirit (רוח) (ruach) is feminine, (which is used in the Hebrew Bible, as is the feminine word "shekhinah" in rabbinic literature, to indicate the presence of God, Arabic: سكينة sakina, a word mentioned six times in the Quran)."

>> No.20691444

>>20678113
Anything remotely feminist. Weird self-improvement books. YA novels about queers. Teenage Dystopia books. Woo-woo shit is tolerable if it doesn't belong to the previous categories.

>> No.20691478

What does it mean if a girl reads exclusively Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett?

>> No.20691488

>>20681230
This is true. Crazy women fuck well. They just tend to fuck your life up too.

>>20689180
Women are infinitely more likely to be stalkers. Also, crazies will not just break up with you but attempt to fire-bomb your entire life out of pure spite. It's a pretty good idea to avoid them.

>> No.20691492

>>20691358
And get accused of rape? Not likely. Feminism did this.

>> No.20691493

>>20678113
Anything intellectual.

>>20678128
>>20678135
>>20678158
>>20678159
This is what a woman should have on her shelves. It indicates that she's womanly and comfortable being such. Women should not be interested in what men are interested in.

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20691495

If she says Siddhartha, The Alchemist and Man's Search for Meaning are her favorite books, is she based or cringe?

>> No.20691496

>>20678747
Not unusual for Iand such.

>> No.20691498

>>20691496
*IT and such.
Retarded autocorrect.

>> No.20691508

>>20689920
Thanks for the thoughtful reply anon. I know it's obviously very different in the original chinese, but a good amount of the emotions came through in your translation, the last lines in particular. I'll spend some time going through other translations now.

>> No.20691509

>>20691478
Neil Gaiman is a pretty good writer, just an insufferable faggot politically. Terry Pratchett is okay. I'd lean towards an autism diagnosis in that case but I'd cautiously encourage hitting it in that situation.

>> No.20691688

>>20690440
This also isn’t how men interact. The point is that no one, only actual nobodies talk like this. If you claim to be repulsed by this then you hint at being a normal person, but there is no way a normal person would come, stay and post here.
>100s
You have to be a “different type of normal” to have 100s of photos on instagram and to be able to afford hitting the club every weekend. Few among normals even in the western world can do that. Few have that much money to waste, free weekends to recover, enough egoism to not care about the fiftieth photo of themselves and the same three people.

>> No.20691716

>>20681408
ESL and/or illiterate

>> No.20691761

>>20691495
this one might be ok

>> No.20691776

>>20678113
The entire shelf only consisting of Bukowski and Vonnegut.

>> No.20691833

>>20691776
women who like Bukowski are like Drew Barrymore, not a bad thing by many.
Quite rare too since his lesser known poems are about male experience.

>> No.20692449

>>20690098
>why? are you a neet? do you think you've failed in life?
Not really. Sometimes I question why I'm still here, but I've had the occasional positive experience.
>this manner of social interaction isn't that attractive even repulsive to women. no need to mince words there.
I'm not really the typical woman, being autistic. That might be part of it.

>> No.20692457

>>20690440
Those women are frankly nearly as alien to me as men are. Gender aside I'm not that different from the average shy, nerdy, 4channer, though I feel like I've gotten a little more social recently.

>> No.20692468

>>20690522
Is that really how men feel? Is your interest in us that shallow?

>> No.20692471

>>20691833
>Drew Barrymore
you’re right; exactly what they are. That was my ex exactly, and her shelf. Not my cup of tea after all.

>> No.20692473

>>20682164
You sure owned them there!

Updoot!

>> No.20692475

>>20691493
>Women should be reading garbage shallow books by Ben Shapiro or Rachel Maddow
Don't say I didn't warn you

>> No.20692481

>>20691406
Some combination of 'he had to be one or the other' and 'the ancient Israelites had a patriarchal culture so conceiving of him in male terms made sense to them'. That doesn't mean he factually is male, though; he has no body, and therefore no sex. (Supposing his existence for the moment.)

>> No.20692489

>>20692468
No, it's just the compromise we are forced to make because almost all women believe the insane crap put into their heads by the public education and media complex. What else are we supposed to do? Obviously it is preferable to have a woman that agrees with you, but that's not feasible or realistic as a western man in 2022.

>> No.20692494

>>20691508
I'm willing to recommend resources if you or anyone else is interested in learning Classical Chinese, by the way. You don't have to know Mandarin to learn Classical Chinese, any more than you have to know French to learn Latin.

>> No.20692502

>>20692489
What do you mean by 'insane crap put into our heads by public education and media complex'?

>> No.20692515

>>20691493
astrology is fine but the others are signs of rot. Romance novels are womanly, not stories about teenagers fighting dragons after having gay sex

>> No.20692525

>>20692502
Men can become women and vice versa, homosexuality isn't a mental illness, race isn't real (or race is real and we need to respect those differences, it changes), religion is bad, diversity is good. I don't get it, can you really not identify the state ideology being propagated by media and institutions? You might agree with it or not but don't pretend you can't recognize it.

>> No.20692538

>>20682065
It's fundamentally wrong and inherently Jewish to alter people's thoughts to be well adjusted to their slavery.

>> No.20692541

>>20685301
Nobody cares.

>> No.20692554

>>20689208
Anon. You will never be a woman.

>> No.20692564

>>20692525
>Men can become women and vice versa
Of course you can't change your biological sex. But some people are strongly distressed by their birth sex for some poorly-understood neurological reason, and human decency calls for us to at least tolerate those people and not harass them.
>homosexuality isn't a mental illness
What if I think what consenting adults do in their own bedrooms is none of my business one way or the other?
>race isn't real (or race is real and we need to respect those differences, it changes)
Depends on what you mean by 'race'. Obviously there is genetic variation between humans, but to my understanding it's fairly continuous and hard to draw bright lines in.
>religion is bad
Honestly, I've been wondering if I'd be happier with religion, but the problem is that rationally I don't see reason to think any of it's true.
>diversity is good
Diversity in and of itself is not good. Not limiting people's opportunities arbitrarily based on the circumstances of their birth is good, however; even from a purely good-of-society viewpoint that doesn't care about equity to particular individuals, the more people have a chance at education the more scientists and researchers there will be to make useful discoveries.
>I don't get it, can you really not identify the state ideology being propagated by media and institutions? You might agree with it or not but don't pretend you can't recognize it.
I would have said the primary state ideology is capitalism; that's what the powerful benefit from. The institutions pushing wokeness is primarily a distraction from class struggle, but that doesn't mean human decency doesn't include the concept of not limiting people's opportunities based on their birth- though I'd include the economic dimension in that which so many wokies skip over.

>> No.20692567

>>20689530
You will never be a woman either.

>> No.20692583

>>20690059
>But in Hebrew everything is either a 'he' or a 'she'
Wow just like the real world.

>> No.20692585

>>20692554
>>20692567
I made both of those posts, and I regret to inform you that I am, in fact, a woman. There are women who post on 4chan, though some days I'm not sure why I still do.

>> No.20692593

>>20692564
>The institutions pushing wokism as a distraction for class struggle
It’s funny how quickly Occupy Wall Street disappeared and diversity politics popped up overnight. Major distraction for the wealth inequality issues and disappearing of the middle class

>> No.20692595

>>20692583
Inanimate objects and abstract concepts are all either male or female?

>> No.20692603

>>20692593
See, this is the kind of talk I like to hear. Makes me think there's some common ground between me and the average 4channer politically if we look for it. Like, I don't think 'social justice' issues can be completely ignored, but I think they can't be addressed without addressing the structural issues of capitalism and class.

>> No.20692614

>>20690522
This.

>>20692468
The only thing interesting about a woman is her vagina. It is literally the only tool she has to interact with the world. But you will never be one so don't worry about it.

>> No.20692623

>>20692614
What makes the things that are interesting about a man uninteresting in a woman?

>> No.20692628

>>20692603
To go further it would be interesting to see where most of the money for BLM and other “oppressed minorities” goes. I have a hunch most of it goes to those on top

>> No.20692635

>>20692585
False.

>>20692595
The ones that matter are yes. And you're not an abstract concept, just a sick faggot.

>> No.20692638

>>20692635
How, exactly, does one determine the gender of inanimate objects and abstract concepts?

>> No.20692640

is this board aware and Schopenhauer-pilled that most girls are only into the church for two reasons:
-the superior aesthetics
-men in the family
having a Bible or not does not an absolute in design make

>> No.20692641

>>20692623
The fact that women can't really do them.

>> No.20692644

>>20692468
What interest do women have in men?

>> No.20692647

>>20692638
My car is a woman. My guitar is a woman. You are not a woman. It's pretty cut and dry.

>> No.20692650

>>20692641
There are psychological sex differences, but they're nowhere near that extreme or categorical.
https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2017/05/05/the-cluster-structure-of-genderspace/
>>20692644
Interest as human beings. Or at least I do.
>>20692647
How are you defining 'woman' here exactly?

>> No.20692656

>>20692564
Thats great and all but it doesn't really change the fact that for every thoughtful woman, there 15 screaming shitlibs and 15 spergy guys that want a thoughtful woman, ergo we're forced to compromise.

>> No.20692657

>>20692644
I want to be cynical and say money/status, but I don’t think it’s cynical if it’s just true.

>> No.20692662

>>20692650
A wordpress link is not an argument bitch. This is why no one takes you seriously.

>> No.20692667

>>20692662
It's not just the author's opinion, though, they cite sources.

>> No.20692668

>>20692650
>However, it all runs into trouble when we’re talking about transgender people

Yeah, stopped right there. Conflated sex and gender from the start. Oof.

>> No.20692671

>>20692667
Not. An. Argument.

>> No.20692674

>>20692585
Do you have toasty toasty disgusting vagina lips?

>> No.20692676

>>20692671
If citing sources isn't an argument, what is?

>> No.20692679

>>20692668
>Conflated sex and gender
This. Sex is a description of physical reality. Gender is just something a pedophile psychiatrist made up in the 50s to justify molesting kids.

>> No.20692686

>>20692679
Gender is just a synonym for sex lol, the distinction between these words is a 20th century fabrication.

>> No.20692691

>>20692676
You didn't cite any sources, you cited a freely hosted blog. You couldn't even be bothered to copy and paste their argument. Women are as stupid as they are lazy.

>> No.20692694

>>20692679
You know John Money's attempt to reassign David Reimer as a girl was based on the notion that gender identity (one's self concept as a man or woman) is fully socially malleable, right? The fact that it failed and David ended up identifying as a boy anyway is evidence that there is some innate aspect to gender identity.

>> No.20692702

>>20692691
>Too lazy to click on a link
>Calls me lazy
>Brings my gender into it
Are all men such stupid assholes?

>> No.20692706

>>20692694
That's great anon but he still molested that kid until he killed himself.

>> No.20692714

>>20692702
Relax anon I'm just kidding. You and I both know you will never be a woman.

>> No.20692720

>>20692706
My point is that his beliefs explicitly contradicted those of modern "gender ideology", so I don't see how he's relevant here.

>> No.20692723

>>20678113
who is pic related?

>> No.20692728

>>20692679
afaik sex referred to the act whilst gender was more of a boilerplate reading. Easily interchangeable. Until people started believing they could erase their birth certificates and start again.

>> No.20692733

>>20692720
He literally coined the concept.

Say, you aren't a woman by any chance, are you?

>> No.20692740

>>20692733
>He literally coined the concept.
He coined a use of 'gender' but that doesn't mean that people who use it today believe the same things he did; again the core belief of modern 'gender ideology' (innate/intrinsic gender identity) is directly contradictory to what he believed.
>Say, you aren't a woman by any chance, are you?
Yes, but why's it matter? If what I'm saying is true, it would be equally true if a man were saying it, and if what I'm saying is false, it would be equally false if a man were saying it.

>> No.20692746

>>20692740
>Yes
No.

>> No.20692752

>>20692746
It's irrelevant in any case, for the reason I just stated.

>> No.20692828

>>20692752
If it's irrelevant than why did you answer the question?

You know what just post your silicone tits bro.

>> No.20692856

>>20692828
Because you asked.
I don't have implants. You know estrogen causes breast growth, right?

>> No.20693149

>>20692564
braindead

>> No.20693352

>>20692603
>>See, this is the kind of talk I like to hear. Makes me think there's some common ground between me and the average 4channer politically if we look for it
Ok, post your hairy legs and pits and let's get married then.

>> No.20693409

>>20693352
I actually have posted naked pictures on 4chan before just for fun but I'm not in the mood to do that right now.

>> No.20693568

>>20692449
okay, that answered my question

>> No.20693592

>>20693409
>>I actually have posted naked pictures on 4chan before just for fun
LMFAO fuck off retarded whore.

>> No.20693662

>>20693592
What, like you wouldn't if you were a girl? Feeling sexy is nice.

>> No.20693702

>>20693662
So girls have the whore gene? What's the moronic point you're trying to make? You can't go against your shitty nature?

>> No.20693716

>>20693702
Nah, just that there's a lot more interest from men in seeing naked women than vice versa, and if it's anonymous I might as well enjoy having people compliment my body and be thirsty over me. But like I said I'm autistic so probably social norms and strictures don't mean as much to me as they do to others.

>> No.20693763

>>20693716
>I'm autistic
you're just stupid and some poojeets fapping to your roastie body mean nothing

>> No.20693768

>>20693763
I mean I'm actually diagnosed autistic.

>> No.20693822

>>20689147
>List of Good Books
>Wants more books not in English
>Wants more books in a non-European Language
Holy fuck, dude, get a grip.

>> No.20693823

>>20693768
autism is a gentle euphemism for stupidity
you were mistakenly taught its the same as incurable true diseases so you use it as an excuse for your abhorrent behaviour

>> No.20693826

>>20693822
Not saying they're not good books. Saying it's parochial.
>>20693823
It's a distinct neurotype.

>> No.20693891

>>20689275
>Chinese poems
Me Chinese, Me play joke,
Me put peepee in your Coke

>> No.20693904

>>20693891
See >>20689920