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>be me
>will spend a month this summer at my sister's property
>I offer to pay rent, supply thing they need, etc.
>she won't hear of it
>I insist.
>says "then just bring a few books" for my teen niece
>OK
>precociously smart, deep thinker, amitious, polite, good values
>school lit lately has been chosen for its "wokeness"
>as soon as school finished she read Portrait of Dorian Grey
>sis says, "she was ecstatic to read great writing again"

So, which books should I bring?

looking for:
-Well-developed characters
-Engaging cliche-free stories
-Elite observation skills and wordsmithery

(She likes (serious) poetry, too, if that helps.)

thanks for any help!

>> No.20591479

unironically lolita

>> No.20591498

>>20591465
Outer Dark. Cormac McCarthy
100 years of solitude.

>> No.20591599

Give her Sophie's World and Thus Spake Zarathustra

>> No.20591627

>>20591465
Imagine asking a board full of autistic incels to recommend a book for a teenage girl. You're gonna have a rough time.
>What are girls? Organisms with two X chromosomes. Hmm... What has two Xs? Ah yes, Xerxes. I remember. Try something like CCRU or Cyclonopedia.

>> No.20591633

>>20591465
>She thinks picture of dorian gray is great writing
it never even started

>> No.20591652

>>20591465
atlas shrugged

>> No.20591695

>>20591627

She isn't read for that, but Sadie Plant's book is unironically good to get her on some nonfiction.

>> No.20591721

>>20591652
Based

>> No.20591729
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20591729

>>20591465
she should read these

>> No.20591731

Therese Raquin by Zola. Obligatory teenage read.

>> No.20591772

>>20591465
Instead of "bringing books" you should take your niece to a book store or used book store.

>> No.20591803

>>20591652
there's enough insufferable retards on earth thank you

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>>20591465

>> No.20591909

>>20591465
The little Prince
Lord of the Flies
Sherlock Holmes maybe?

>> No.20591926

>>20591465
my love letter to her desu

>> No.20591939

>>20591465
All 40 diskworld novels by Terry Pratchett

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>>20591772
have you been to a bookstore lately, every prominent display is "Woke & Diverse".
Went to a huge bookstore looking for Barbara Gowdy - they had none.
OK. Good writer but not huge.
So I looked for sKipling for a gift -- and NO KIPLING. Nothing.

Dozens and dozens of copies of Song of Achilles and Rupi Kaur, tho.

The kind of advice OP wants is exactly what a /lit/ board should be able to provide.

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>>20591772
Have you been to a bookstore lately?
Every prominent display is "Woke & Diverse".
Went to a huge bookstore looking for Barbara Gowdy - they had none.
OK. Good writer but not huge.
So I looked for Kipling for a gift -- and NO KIPLING. Nothing.

Dozens and dozens of copies of Song of Achilles and Rupi Kaur, tho.

The kind of advice OP wants is exactly what a /lit/ board should be able to provide.

>> No.20592007

>>20591633
come on man, its great in comparison to woke shit. Most zoomer girls don't even have a conception of literature past sterile woke stuff.

>> No.20592020

The Quran or Torah, and possibly the Talmud

>> No.20592042

Jane Eyre is fantastic for this age bracket especially the type you described

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>>20591695
>Sadie Plant's book
She has three, so which one, and why?

>> No.20592240

>>20591909
Forgot Good Omens

>> No.20592458

>>20591465
Dragonflight by Anne McCaffrey

>> No.20592505

>>20591465
Pullman - His Dark Materials

>>20591995
Did you notice the anon also wrote "or used book store"?

>> No.20592515

>>20591465
Dude you're 40years old and giving a little girl books.

>> No.20592550

>>20591465
Buy a copy of Plato's complete works and replace the cover with a boy band album. If she asks why the band members are all called weird names tell her it's an early edition from Korea.
>>20591909
>>20592240
>>20592505
Also these, plus book girls with conservative families tend to like Lord of the Rings.

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20592563

Buy her this

>> No.20592687

obligatory the secret history. bitches love dark academia

>> No.20592961

>>20592007
>woke shit
the only difference between Oscar Wilde's pulp and modern pulp is time and Oscar Wilde is gayer than most modern authors already

>> No.20593803

>>20592961
you're saying most woke authors today write on the same level as Oscar Wilde?
is that your position?
please cite some of these woke authors, I'm keen to read them.

>> No.20593820

Hesse

>> No.20593831

>>20591479
fpbp

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>>20592515
what's your point, tho? kid is smart asnd loves reading. books seem a pretty on-target gift, no?

>> No.20594378

>>20591729
Master & Margarita is unironically a great suggestion

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20594399

Everyman's Library has some nice topical collections of poetry. There's love poems, like in pic, and there's an erotic collection.

>> No.20594431

Isabelle carmody

Female characters with depth, fairly heavy story lines, light on the sex.
Pretty much free of globohomo, she's not selling hamburgers

>> No.20594440

>>20591909
speaking of holmes some agatha christie stuff might be good

>> No.20594445

>>20592563
damn women would love this shit
plus anything by the brontes

>> No.20594486

Maybe Virginia Woolf? idk man ask me about some schizo shit

>> No.20594509

>>20594486
Fuck you.

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>>20594509
no.

>> No.20594566

>>20594521
You will never be a schizophrenic.

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>>20594566
>implying

>> No.20594580

>>20594577
You're normal. You retweet unfunny memes on Twitter.

>> No.20594593

>>20594580
I wish I was honestly and pls don't ever put in the group as shitter users

>> No.20594789

>>20591465
Dunno what she's read already. Dorian Gray will probably be better-written than most of the crap she gets force-fed at school, but it's a pity if she feels that's the best that literature has to offer.

Three novels (UK):
— Jane Eyre (Bronte)
— The Rainbow (Lawrence)
— Lord Of The Flies (Golding)

Three more novels (UK):
— Rebecca (Du Maurier)
— Titus Groan (Peake)
— Watership Down (Adams)

Three novels (USA):
— The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter (McCullers)
— Catch-22 (Heller)
— The Road (McCarthy)

Three essay collections:
— The Renaissance (Pater)
— Encounters With Animals (Durrell)
— Slouching To Bethlehem (Didion)

Three short story collections:
— Pigeon Feathers (Updike)
— Cathedral (Carver)
— Revenge Of The Lawn (Brautigan)

Three more short story collections:
— Tales Of The Unexpected (Dahl)
— Best of (R.A.Lafferty)
— Nine Stories ['For Esmé With Love And Squalor'] (Salinger)

Three historical novels:
— I, Claudius (Graves)
— Gone With The Wind (Mitchell)
— The Leopard (Lampedusa)

Three novellas:
— The Old Man And The Sea (Hemingway)
— Breakfast At Tiffany's (Capote)
— Flowers For Algernon (Keyes)

Three humorous:
— Let Your Mind Alone! (Thurber)
— A Tramp Abroad (Twain)
— Guys and Dolls (Runyon)

Three at random:
— Out Of Africa (Dinesen)
— Under Milk Wood (Thomas)
— Guards! Guards! (Pratchett)

>> No.20594821

>>20591465
Story of the Eye by Bataille. Have her read it out loud to you.

>> No.20595644

>>20591465
I really liked Edith Wharton at the age (e.g., The Age of Innocence).
I also thought Faulkner was super interesting, though I admit that it helped to have a class process As I Lay Dying when I was trying to parse some of that in high school.
In general, maybe check out an AP Lit curriculum. I actually really liked a lot of the books I read for it when I was in HS.

>> No.20595902

>>20592515
its his niece not some random teenager. family members give kids books all the time

>> No.20595910

>>20592961
You’re genuinely fucking stupid

>> No.20595921

>hehehe look at me I am such a schizophrenic
Equivalent of women identifying as their horoscope

>> No.20595940

>>20591465
Harry Potter

>> No.20595946

>>20591465
If she liked The Picture of Dorian Grey, I suggest poetry along the lines of:
John Keats - Complete Poems (Odes if you can't find that)
William Shakespeare - Sonnets and Poems
John Milton - Samson Agonistes, Paradise Lost, and Paradise Regained (or the English Poems and Sonnets)
Ovid - Metamorphoses
Virgil - Aeneid
Homer - Iliad and Odyssey
Lord Byron - Don Juan (or Complete Poems)
Oscar Wilde - Complete Poems (especially "The Sphinx" and "The Balld of Reading Gaol"
For prose/novels:
Mary Shelley - Frankenstein
Polidori - The Vampyre
Bram Stoker - Dracula

>> No.20595975

>>20592077

Zeroes + Ones, I think a teenage girl would find it relatable and thought provoking, without being totally convinced. Her other shit isn't 'bad' but I think it'd be either inaccessible (her situationist book) or inappropriate (the drugs book). The layout is also very easy for a 'theory' book, lots of short sections that she could digest independently.

>> No.20596024

>>20591465
Did she like it because it's about a faggy twink? She should try watching animu.

>> No.20596040

>>20591599
This

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>>20591465
Jellicoe Road by Melina Marchetta is excellent.
Contemporary fiction with a high school girl protagonist. It won the 2009 Printz award.

>> No.20596762

American Psycho. The protagonist is a fashion conscious wealthy rascal, perfect for little girls.

>> No.20596841

>>20594789

Good list! Of the novels I know and think a teenage girl would like I second:

- Jane Eyre
- Lord of the Flies
- The heart is a lonely hunter
- Revenge of the lawn
- Flowers for Algernon

>> No.20596890

>>20592515
..What the fuck kind of impoverished mental/cultural world do you live in that anything OP said or did is abnormal to you

Fucking subhuman

>> No.20596910

>>20592687
This is a good suggestion. I suggest giving her a ton of relatively easy and readable shorter books rather than trying to overwhelm her with dense technical stuff. Better she reads dozens of books and remembers her triumphant year of reading for the rest of her life, so she can always return to this activity that feels natural to her, than for her to vaguely remember trying to read Bleak House or War and Peace once.

That said, Dickens is a nice idea. Try to teach her a bit about the history of the English novel so it seems less like "literature" is just this monolithic field of people writing frivolous make-believe stories. I find certain kids only really take to literature once they get a sense of history and its situation and importance in history. That's mostly boys though, since boys seem more interested in knowing the "point" of things. Women seem to have an easier time getting lost in something for its own sake, without needing to know the why of it.

Also get her some of Rilke's poetry, bitches love Rilke sometimes