/lit/ - Literature

>>20539276
Are you really surprised that genreshit ended up being shit?

>>20539327
But it was so good for the first half

Aenea became a mary sue and the author basically used her as a mouthpiece to express his opinions on religion. Still amazing writing aside from that shit.

>>20539331
I disagree, Endymion was a great adventure. It only went downhill at rise.

>>20539361
Endymion was fun but felt like filler after how breakneck the pacing was in Fall. Also, having a chase story where a third party just flat out tells the chaser where the chasee is in the third act is kinda weak.

I did like just exploring the universe though and spending time with the characters though.

Can someone summarize this for me as a person who has no patience for genre fiction? I'm intrigued by the covers.

I started writing a summary but I really don't think reading one really does the experience of the plot unfolding justice. At least for the first two books.
I guess in a super summary form:
>Book 1: Future canterbury tales with a spooky metal space monster
>Book 2: Space war, human-AI politics, betrayal, mystery and in the final moments mysterious external forces playing their hand (and also a spooky metal space monster)

>>20539407
Also a lot of time spent sucking off Keats

>>20539407 meant for: >>20539382

>>20539276
I don't read children's fiction.

>>20539382
>Book 1: mystery revolving around a crazy invincible motherfucker made of razors
>Book 2: a bit more predictable, MC has a fist fight with motherfucker made of razors but that's not so bad
>Book 3: new story, now the motherfucker made of razors is the slave to a little girl and he's getting beaten up by a girl motherfucker who isn't even made of razors
>Book 4: literally everyone in the universe has astral projection orgies with the MC's love interest while he stands around and watches

>>20539327
fpbp

>>20539276
The second duology retroactively ruined everybody's opinion on the first one. Same case with Dune novels.

>>20539276
>a being of ultimate pain, the representation of a construct intended solely for the most excruciating torture for as long as possible, literally made out of razors and spikes, just chilling on a raft with the bros

>time cuckoldry
>an entire book of Boring-Ass Not-Tibet: Planetary Edition
>love is the fifth fundamental force

>>20543974
also
>MUH Keats

>>20539382
Spiky metal man is lame, sci-fi stuff is pretty cool. Several POV characters, some better than others.

>>20543978
>muh keats
Only based part though.

>>20539276
>Plan out a two novel work.
>It's really good.
>Oh shit I'm making a ton of money.
>Quit write more! Cash in!
>They're shit but you got paid.
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>>20539382
>Concepts and imagery of scifi are that appealing
>Discard the entire genre
I don't get it, but I know there's a lot of crap in genre fiction and little that passes into greatness. There's mid-tier books as well, these are two of them (and two are crap).
As someone who finds a lot of "non-genre" fiction to be ponderous, depressed, self-absorbed, and often severely overhyped, I doubt I'll ever get the hate for the entirety of genre fiction.
There's gems and new concepts that you won't find in Faulkner's dreary plodding through rural pre-industrial America in a couple books like these, and they're fun even if absurd under the surface.

I'd never claim the Hitchhiker's Guide is great fiction, but you can finish the entire series in one day, and it's enjoyable actually, and the absurdity and simplicity of the composition is refreshing after some depressing jaunt through an alcoholic suicidal "great writer's" 400pg essay about himself. That's something to actively escape from.

>>20539276
I don’t what these are about, why do all the covers have that weird looking cyborg Sauron guy standing there like an autist?

I'm trying to finish Rise, just because I'm so close. I am having such a hard time staying motivated with all this fucking mountain monk shit.

THE FEMALE CHILD

>>20545757
>Raul keeps calling his girlfriend, "Kiddo"
lmao

>>20539382
It's ultimately a retelling of Keat's Hyperion. One of the main characters is a poet who's writing a similar story and this is how he describes it.

>I retitled my poem The Hyperion Cantos. It was not about the planet but about the passing of the self-styled Titans called humans. It was about the unthinking hubris of a race which dared to murder its homeworld through sheer carelessness and then carried that dangerous arrogance to the stars, only to meet the wrath of a god which humanity had helped to sire.

In this universe, humanity created AI, and the AI eventually broke away and became independent. They coexist peacefully now but at some point in the future the AI technocore managed to successfully create an AI god. This god is at war with the human God and it's winning, forcing the empathetic part of the human God into hiding. It's likely that the Shrike was sent back in time by the AI god to impale people on its tree of thorns which causes people to live forever in intense pain in order to draw out the human God.

>>20545383
Because the Shrike is literally me.

>>20539382
Book 1 is basically Canterbury tales in space. Haven't read the rest because I have the very strong impression that doing so would retroactively ruin the very enjoyable experience that was reading the first one.

>>20539276
This is what happened.

>>20546447
This thing makes me so horney you wouldn't believe

>poo poo pee pee shit fuck cunt
ahead of his time

>>20546665

Lol

>>20545757
What?