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20324485 No.20324485 [Reply] [Original]

I find popular self-help books to be superficial and insultingly simplistic. But then, by their very nature, they have to be in order to appeal to the mainstream audience that they are intended for. These books do nothing but infuriate me, I cannot ever take them seriously, even if they backed up by solid neuroscientific study. At the risk of sounding like a special snowflake, I believe these books can only be useful to "NPC's" with very surface level problems.

This being said, unfortunately, I also lack the intellect or the patience to find meaning or solace in philosophy or more esoteric writing. I do not want for self-awareness or an ability to face the ugly truths about our existence and society in which we live. But I do lack the requisite intelligence to fully understand, internalise and make use of the deep philosophical enquiries of the great thinkers of the past. And Nihilistic fiction can be briefly cathartic but nothing more. Religion doesn't cut it. You cannot force yourself to believe no matter how much you wish you could. Christianity is done for and Eastern religions are mostly impenetrable for a modern Western mind.

I just exist, I just do nothing. I don't want to participate in society. But I don't want to waste away in utter failure either. I'm too self-aware (or cynical) for "self-improvement" and too dumb for the deeper stuff. I'm just stuck in the middle, a brainlet who can't outgrow his existential worries. Nothing brings me any kind of hope or meaning. What the fuck can I do?

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20324512

>>20324485
>I find books useless so 2-10 lines on an obscure platform will reveal the secret of life to me
kek

>> No.20324530

>>20324512

Yep, quite.

It eez wut it eez

>> No.20324540
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20324540

>>20324485
There are 4 options of dealing with your consciousness
a) isolation (just turn your brain off, bro)
b) anchoring (religion, family, social structures)
c) distraction (vidya, porn, shitposting)
d) sublimation (creative outlet, not shitposting)
You've picked the fifth non-option (doing nothing while maintaining self-awareness) and sadly I have to inform you that there's nothing but suicide down that road. Personally, I'm trying to switch from distraction to sublimation. It's hard because I'm a midwit too but struggle is preferable to empty existential dread.

>> No.20324550

>>20324540

I'd say I'm quite heavily distracted but it doesn't bring any escape. Its just fiddling while Rome burns. Porn and shitposting take up a lot of my mental energy.

Isolation would be some kind of ascentic monk life?

>> No.20324564 [DELETED] 

>>20324540
>a) isolation (1st and last cope)
b) anchoring (old copes)
c) distraction (shitiest copes)
d) sublimation (productive cope)
not op btw

>> No.20324574

>>20324550
Yeah, once the option stops distracting you from existential fear it becomes a non-option with mentioned consequence. Buddhists attempt to undergo Ego Death - the ultimate isolation - but there's no evidence of anyone reaching such state except brain injuries or tumors. Generally, isolation means either being too stupid to bother yourself with uncomfortable questions or repressing them with intoxication. Monastic life is b) anchoring.

>> No.20324711

>>20324485
What do you want?
If the ghost of Plato or Schopie came before you and granted you one wish with regards to your future lifestyle (and they were willing to council through your exact wording to avoid any 'moneky's paw' type literal but against the spirit eventualities), what would you ask for?

>> No.20324747

>>20324485
Read Buddhism.

>> No.20324771

>>20324711

I have no idea. Probably some pathetic materialistic/sexual fulfilment. I have often thought that if I were given a choice between genuine enlightenment or a life of all my desires granted, I'd probably choose the latter. Why lie? Or maybe that is just the result of frustration. I am not a materialistic person by nature and as much of a cumbrain that I am, I know that meaningless sex is a waste of time.

I suppose, what I really want, is just to be certain that everything is gonna be ok in the end. For all of us.

>> No.20325132

bump

>> No.20325239

>>20324771
>I suppose, what I really want, is just to be certain that everything is gonna be ok in the end. For all of us.
Well you're not going to get that are you? It's the cold brutal reality. This is a very good argument for memes like 'mindfulness' and 'being present' and even this >>20324747 and in general not taking things for granted, making the most of the moments and opportunities we have.
Now of course there's some pragmatism that needs to be involved here, total hedonism will accelerate the chance of personal catastrophe: as you eventually spend all your money, burn personal bridges, or at the very least take a toll on your body from gorging, excess, and indulgence. However, an amount of hedonism is needed because you could die tomorrow or there could be no opportunity to enjoy the pure sensation of things, the smell and texture of a nice book, the way the light shines through the trees or something. All the stuff Proust writes about too.
Which means that you have to sort of operate within the pragmatic confines of this life, this body, this position in time you've been given: you have to earn an income, maintain your commitments and responsibilities so that you can enjoy these fleeting moments to their fullest. That how you outgrow your existential worries.
So yeah, you have to participate in society. What the fuck can you do? make enough money, keep on top of your responsibilities, and be present.

>> No.20325247

>>20324485
I got just the thing you need
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