/lit/ - Literature

>>20272069
Yes.

>>20272069
>genre fic is not as good as literature
no shit

>>20272259
both are genre fiction trash

>>20272270
lotr is just a novel. like it or not, its supposed "genre" did not exist at the time of writing.

>>20272270
>Reddit opinion.

>>20272465
Cope, that's literally the exact opposite of what a redditor would believev8w4y

>>20272522
redditors believe dune is not a genre novel?

>>20272270
Based Harry Potter enthusiast

>>20272069
Yes, it's much better.

>>20272270
Based

Why does Paul allow the jihad to happen? How is the massacre of 61 billion people part of the Golden Path?

>>20273237
He realized it was inevitable.
>defeat an emperor
>have to subdue rebellions and consolidation of power
>religious fanatics kill heretics
>war happens across the universe
>people die
There wasn't a way to stop Jihad without just giving up his goal of revenge other than exile or surrender.

>create an army made entirely of women because they won't fuck shit up

>their descendants return after the scattering and fuck shit up

the fuck?

>>20273237
>Why does Paul allow the jihad to happen?
>>20273299
>without just giving up his goal of revenge other than exile or surrender.
If he wished to survive the Harkonnens he had to appeal to the Fremen....and this is what leads to the Jihad; the Desert Folk had been socially engineered for a warlike prophet ; Paul was part of a Genetic Program that bred just a "Seer" that unironically fitted the "artificial" culture of the Fremen, Fremen that just so happenned to live and control the SandWorms that Create the very Resource the entire Star Fearing Empire of Man depended on....and Paul, by being a Noble would actually be able to command the Empire in case of Conflict.....

>>20273613
women amiright

https://strawpoll.com/polls/NMnQB2pQWg6

>>20272069

LoRT is mythic fantasy. Dune is a space opera with drugs.

>>20274860
LOTR is a history book dumbass.

>>20275044
No its not.

>>20272069
After the first act the book turns to shit. Only the harkonnen shit was enjoyable.

Did the Bene Gesserit actually know the Kwisatz Haderach would be prescient, or were they just expecting him to be able to access the ancestral male memories that they weren't able to get to?

God Emperor of Dune is better

>>20272069
I like both but I prefer DUNE.

>>20273237
>Why does Paul allow the jihad to happen?

He sees that it would happen regardless even if he were to die.

>How is the massacre of 61 billion people part of the Golden Path?

Paul doesn't walk the Golden Path. If you think that's bad you're in for a shock when you read God Emperor and Heretics (the Golden Path and its aftermath).

Dune more like Dunce lmfao

dune more like dune-your-mom

>>20272069
is the entire Dune series worth 1,5 day's worth of salary?

basically nothing ive read in english lit after LOTR is on par. Its one of the last great works even though its partially aimed at children.

>>20272069
Agreed. Still good though.

>>20276305
The ENTIRE series? No. The first four books? Yes. One of the very few situations where if you buy more than that you are actually getting less for your money.

I prefer LOTR but I still think Dune is great

>>20275149
Slogging through Children or Dune, hated Messiah, only the ending was good. Is God Emperor really worth the hype?

>>20277148
Yes.

>>20272069
Book 4 is kino

>>20277313
kek

>>20277148
I though Dune itself was mediocre, Messiah was good despite its atrocious prose (probably because of how good the last third was; the beginning was awful), and Children was even worse than the first book. God Emperor is more impressive the less you know about philosophy; at least it is better than Children.

>>20277878

Loved Messiah as an epilogue to Dune. Children was hard to get through (don't care about soundtrout, stop trying to explain sandtrout).

Taking a break from Dune to catch up on other books, but excited to get back on board with Leto

>>20275099
I can't recall; But they did expect that He would be fully under their control/Influence.

>>20277313
Saved.

>>20278125
>>20277878
I liked the part in Children where Leto helicopters Alia so hard that she throws herself out of a window afterwards.

>>20278160
poor alia.

>>20278194
Alia had a hard life.

>>20272069
comparing them is retarded. theyre not even competing let alone the same genre. shit opinion.