/lit/ - Literature

>>20200942
What? That's not extraordinary at all. Reading retention and comprehension is not about memorizing and being able to reproduce the exact text.

>>20200949
So you're telling me you can sit down for an hour read 150 pages and then talk for 20 minutes about what you just read?

>>20200957
Who said anything about "an hour"? I can read 150 pages and then talk 20 minutes about what I read perfectly fine.

>>20200968
Oh sorry he claims he can read 150 pages in an hour with 90% retention.

>>20200957
I could read 150 pages in 20 minutes and talk about them for 2 hours

>>20200978
Post timelapse or larp

>>20200972
For every human being on this planet, all of this depends very heavily on the book and the subject matter being read.

>>20200979
it's called academia, look it up

These are the sort of books he likes btw

Maybe I've got no doubt the fucker is smart.
I was a Lit major who switched to CS, and can confidently say that pound for pound the quality of CS students was considerably higher. More and more it feels like English is where you go when you failed at everything else. Maybe it's different at Oxford IDK, but we had a good syllabus with some Greek and Latin thrown in, and still at times i felt that the course was conducted on an elementary school level, for people who were not far above it themselves.

The CS students were of better stuff, and i can imagine them retraining 150 p without a sweat, it's just that they retain pure information, rather then anything of literary quality.

>>20200988
So these are the books that will mislead you from the truth.

>>20200988
>>20200942
>what is lying
>what is public relations
He may or may not be a pedophile who is very much retired. Why would he read?

>>20200942
No man who devoted his life into entrepreneurship and the building of a vast wealth could possibly be smart enough.
Maybe smart enough in that field alone. Definitely not wise either.

>>20200988
Beat me to it.
>>20200957
I can talk for twenty minutes about something that took me five minutes to read. Your metric sucks.

>>20200988
Why do Americans love The Great Gatsby so much? It's such a nothing book from my perspective

>>20201130
Because they have entire curriculums of literature based on some systematic method of analysis specifically for picking out "symbolism" in that book and other nonsense. It's a full, ready-made study package for teachers so that they can methodically teach this thing to students without thinking about anything.

>>20200942
He's a known impulsive liar. The guy was the richest man in the world and he made up a lie about selling political broaches for a mayor as a teenager. That nobody could corroborate. He also made up a lie about being put in charge of assigning classes in high school with his computer and assigning himself a class with all girls except him. Which his biographer found was bull shit because of the boy girl ratio it something like that. Still, he's saved a lot of lives. But he's a liar

>>20201168
Sounds grim

>>20200942
He lied about knowing Epstein before that photo, he will lie about anything

>>20201130
has heavy themes of class conflict, so Marxists love it

>>20200942
>actually watching overt propaganda vetted by a devil

>>20200984
>it's called academia
Not exactly its most sterling endorsement, if the peak of academia is speed reading 150 pages and being from there capable of generating an illusion of familiarity with it. After all, talking and verbal communication are the least-precise and most fallible forms of discussion. That's part of what makes literature so uniquely beautiful—it circumvents in its pure abstraction all of the intricate, evolutionary responses prompted by listening and watching someone talk. With literature, we are much less vulnerable to charisma and personality. We are more able to detach from all that psychological anachronism and to engage with the content itself.

So, if that's some kind of victory for "academia," that you can speed read and talk, then I would propose academia isn't creating academics as much as it is salesmen and charismatics.

>>20201130
it's commie/socialist claptrap designed to expose the (true) emptiness of material wealth, and the sparsity of the american dream. it's a cynical, superficial, and dull cigarette butt of a book whose best purpose is to be overlooked entirely. the author himself was truly a wet sock as well. likely he is held in high esteem to primarily lead astray any minds suited for literary thought early on, infuse in their impressionable minds the triumph of mediocrity, that it is acceptable, even lauded, to be a morose failure, treading water in an art well larded with champions.
the book is a club to beat you into cognitive submission. to render you passive and asleep.

>>20201474
>muh ambiguity is dissolved in literature
brainlet.

>>20201495
It is really well written, though. In the purest literary tradition, we celebrate authors, not men. The latter is just a descent into celebrity. Tell me, are you a fan?

>>20201502
>muh vague and incomprehensible greentext
[insult]

>>20201507
it's not even well written. it's serviceably written.
a fan of what? literature? yes. of fitzgerald? no.

>>20201511
the concept of ambiguity is vague and incomprehensible to you? wew lad. i'm saying that meaning isn't better defined by symbols in print than those flung into the air by our glottal eruptions. the symbols achieve a sort of permanence that the spoken word lacks, but this does not favor interpretation. the word as written even becomes more unclear as the years go on, distancing us from the intent of the author. as to being influenced by charisma or personality, one can likewise find themselves influenced by style and structure, which are the voice and ego of the author. we do not escape the corruption of ambiguity by hiding in our symbols. i say you are a brainlet for not recognizing this because you obviously haven't thought deeply enough about the subject and i think it's quite a shame.

>>20201524
Okay, I see now. Not only did you completely miss the point of my post, you are additionally a really unpleasant person. If you want to discuss what I was actually talking about, feel free to go back and actually read the post you're responding to before calling anyone an idiot. It's a pretty bad look, my dude.

>>20201560
i don't discusd things with brainlets. i'll give you another lecture sometime if you ask politely.

>>20201587
Just so we're clear, you are calling me a brainlet based on your own lack of comprehension of what I'm actually saying.

I can forget what I have read while I am reading it. I'm getting tested for ADHD soon.

>>20201591
i'm sorry, but you're under a grave misapprehension. i read your post again to make sure, and no, i do not aim at your central point in its attack on academia, but rather your feebleheaded lean on the "pure abstraction" of literature, and the "detachment from psychological anachronism", both of which statements i fundamentally disagree with. if in my attack on these ludicrous suppositions i happen to dismantle the foundation of your coarse argument about academia, you have my apologies.

also you very strongly imply that literature is a less ambiguous form of communication than the spoken word, which i also vehemently disagree with. if anything, this entire discourse proves my point, with you claiming that the authorial intent is unheard, while simultaneously taking my character into account, hardly separating yourself from these 'evolutionary responses' of yours to my personality.

>>20201507
>It is really well written
not really, especially when you compare it to other novels by Fitzgerald's contemporaries

>>20200942
bill is a good man but this world is still fundamentally evil and his attempts to fix things only make them worse

>>20201240
bill is a "liar" because he's a white hat hacker who infiltrated british royalty to help the common man, the problem is that he thinks currency debasement and communism help the middle class when all it does is make everyone equally homeless

>>20200957
I usually can't read 150 pages per hour, but I definitely can talk about it later. For way more than 20 minutes

>>20201240
>>20202128
>he's a good guy
>he's saved lives
these takes are profane

>>20200942
I always think I'm a terribly slow reader, but every time I pick up a book with a recommendation from Bill Gates quoted on the cover, I fly through it. The books he reads usually regurgitate the same ideas over and over and they're usually written in a very simple style, with absolutely nothing remotely challenging.

Never ever I mean NEVER believe these brainlet stories about wealthy people begin “le heckin super geniuses” it’s all fake there is another one about Elon Musk begin an engineering mastermind who was reading calculus stuff and understanding it as a kid the guy has never personally worked on any rocket or Telsa nearly every famous politician and actor has similar stories like to this too again fake and over exaggerated

Well Harold Blom claimed he could read between 500-600 pages an hour.

>>20202242
if bill had any sense he would destroy every computer on earth and have us use magic again

did you guys just call bill gates a marxist?

>>20203400
bill is a marxist you fucking retard

that's the problem, he is a nice person IRL but this manifests as his agencies and non-profits turning earth into wakandan harrison bergeron

>>20203595
define marxism and then explain how bill gates is a marxist.

>>20203606
marxism is rule by the jesuits

bill gates is a jesuit

any other questions?

>>20202128
>>20201240
philanthropy is not what you think it is

>>20200942
Yes. Someone that didn't even make windows and got billions for it will think that you'll believe anything he says.

I sincerely doubt he knows how to code or at the very least I believe him to be a terribly shitty coder.

>>20203889
>I sincerely doubt he knows how to code

you would be surprised

>>20200982
Yeah, this just about tosses a wrench right in the OP’s attempt at making a compelling argument with this thread.

Nothing to see here, folks.

>>20203617
this. spreading the influence of mammon in the guise of god and good is one of the more disappointing evils we've done
>>20203383
not a huge fan of magic, besides, people still do plenty of that. it would be nice to see the internet die in favor of an *alternative* though. i keep hoping for a quantum breakthrough that relates to telepathy, but those are big silly dreams.

>>20203910
He stole windows code, gave it to IBM, and they made it from there. Both his parents are super connected. He didn't do shit.

>>20200988
what a pseud

>>20201495
The litposter who knows the most about Marxism (nothing because his brain is putefraction and the deepest analysis he can make of a contemplative work is his idealistic bullshit that nobody cares about it).

>>20200942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5CxaWr1FTw

>>20204432
>t. fitzgerald fag

>>20200978
a dr. seuss enjoyer I see

>>20203889
Then he is greater still, he made billions of the backs of so called nerds and so called intellectuals. Same with steve jobs. Based chads.

>>20200942
Bill Gates wife left him because of shit he was doing at Epstien's parties, which she can't talk about due to a NDA

>>20205222
Same with Musk too.

STEMcels make their precious five and six figure salaries while the true chads reap their work and make twelve and thirteen figure salaries

>noooo le bougey juice are exploiting le

Still a better mode of production than shartxism

>>20205226
bill is not a pedophile idiot and that blackmail ring was probably the only thing preventing earth from turning into straight up hell like it is now

>>20205293
Meds. Now.

are you telling me this nigga only read and retained 150 pages of text?

>>20200942
Yes. Sheldon Cooper was based on a real person, Bill Gates. He was also a consult for the script writers of the big bang theory tv show.

>>20200979
>>20200957
I need to start reading Fathers and sons, I will do it and post it some time in the near future.

>>20200942
>What do I need to think about?
Your conscience
>What am I missing?
A soul.
>Do we have time?
Ask your workers who toiled away so you could be rich.

>>20201495
wtf I took the exact opposite message from it. I took it as the only true greatness in life was that of a gatsbean persute of something great even if the reality is not all that perfect. Dont remember the exact quote, but the idea has always stuck with me and unironically made me feel more American then most anything else. It was something about gatsby shooting for the stars and first gets to the moon to get closer, only to realize they are just as far away as when he begain. But that doesnt matter to him, hell build a latter and go even higher.

Fuck, even the closing paragraph oozes with a melancholy romanticism towards the wonder of gatsby. It doesnt imply or give any credence to any material persuite being a preferable option to his path. It only gives a sublime vindication, but also the tragedy of Gatsby’s efforts:

>Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that’s no matter — to-morrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms farther... . And one fine morning ——
>So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back cease- lessly into the past.

I think you have to be actively retarded to draw a non idealist message from this book.

>>20200988
>Generic "Great American Novel"
>Bullshit social science by Gay jew
>Epstein's favorite Steven
>Redditcore sci-fi
Sounds about right

>>20200988
based “simple as” boomer lit.
>>20203942
Literally the opposite. A pseud would want to look more erriodite.

>>20200942
https://pumpkinperson.com/2019/10/13/a-closer-look-at-bill-gatess-iq/

This guy quantifies Bill's IQ to be 160 to 170 based on his SAT scores. Given this is a board of midwits thinking they're 130+. I wouldn't doubt deny his intelligence based on sheer ressentiment.

>>20202334
Ironically, Tesla himself failed out of college and nearly ruined himself with his gambling addiction.

>>20200942
I can read 150 pages with 90% semen retention, but retain only 10% of what I read, OR, I could read 150 pages with a mere 10% semen retention, but a whopping 80% on sexual pleasure retention, and 10% informational retention.

>>20206348
Based

>>20200942
the rest of us mortals just reread what we like

>>20200942
he also says hes not a pedophile so...

>>20202128
bill is not a good man in any capacity. his pr team convinced you he was.

>>20208273
i mean that if he wanted to he could enslave and rape everyone for eternity, considering the farcical amount of evil he could theoretically do, his half-assed attempts at "philanthropy" are quite tame

>>20208273
i met him and he is an absolute sweetheart, you are just lazy and covet his wealth

>>20200942

Then explain Internet Explorer

>>20209321
>ywn help bill steal the declaration of independence

why even live

>>20205341
kek nice one

>>20200988
I wonder if he read Pinker's book while they were both on their flight to pedo island.

>>20209590
bill is literally a wizard you fucking hylic, he is not a pedophile

>>20201168
>>20201451
>>20201495
Imagine getting filtered by a novel that even preteens and highschoolers can comprehend. Embarrasing, give up literature and get into Marvel movies instead. I'd say those are more your speed, but even something of that caliber will probably go over your head.

>>20200942
He may have been able to do it when he was young, but at his current age, no chance.

>>20201168
>curriculums
curricula

>>20200942
This retard can hardly explain biology 101 concepts on TV while masquerading as a public health expert. Unless he’s talking about popsci trash, I don’t believe him.

>>20201130
It's about America. You couldn't ever get it.

>>20200942
i would be surprised if bill gates reads anything at all, even now. if he was 30 years younger he'd be posting on here about the superiority of his STEM degree and/or trying to win arguments by bragging about his mortgage

>>20201130
the actual reason is because it's of a perfect length and level of writing for high school classes but also because its distribution to soldiers during WW2 revived it from relative obscurity. had it not been for this "babbitt" by sinclair lewis would have been the chosen text

>>20201065
Why wouldn't he read? He is literally a nerd that's older than windows, that's what they did back in the day.