/lit/ - Literature

yeah

One of the things I read suggested that e-readers are unpopular because people inherently like to feel how much progress they’ve made in a book by feeling it physically by how many pages are on each side of the opened book. E-readers don’t do that.

>>20041592
The only good one is the Sony PRS-500. Fucking OP as fuck with dual SD card support and lots of buttons with support for the formats that matter. Touchscreens are fucking gay.

>>20041592
I bought an e-reader then I sold it because I hated using it. Now I read only physical books.

>>20041592
I both love and hate them.

for me, it's reading on my phone

I got a Kobo Libra 2 and I love it

>>20041592
since I have an e-reader I read a lot more, I also buy more physical books

>>20041651
E-readers tell you the percentage of the way through the book you are, measure your reading speed, and tell you how much longer you have left in the chapter you're reading as well as the remainder of the book.

>>20041592
It's more of an economical decision than anything. Physical books would edge out in terms of reading experience, but not enough to justify spending a bunch of money on them or going to the library. Would recommend, if you've got one you like.

>>20041592
they're good

>>20041592
Godsend. Better than the Internet.

>>20041592
love it. makes my pussy throb. it's just functionally better than a book
>easy to hold, arms/hands don't get tired
>defines words for you barely breaking the reading experience
>can read with one hand and eat with the other
>don't need any garbage book light
>can carry literally an entire library with you
>can rent and return books from the library without leaving the couch
>can change font size
>can see popular annotations
>faster navigation between pages

>>20041592
Probably the same way they felt the last 50 times this thread was posted

Why would anyone want to haul a dozen+ boxes of books with them every time they move? They also take up space that can be better used for other things.

If you want a little bookcase for special books that give you feelies, then have at it, but having a massive physical book collection in the year of our lord 2022 is just retarded.

>>20041905
>every time they move?
t. who doesn't own an off the grid cottage in the middle of nowhere

>>20041782
Feeling the thickness of the book and its weight in your hands gives you a much more intuitive idea of progress than reading a percentage.

>>20041592

>>20041905
A box of books isn't difficult to take with you and how often are you moving anyway

>>20041905
>every time they move?
We're not actually all Mongolian nomads, despite what kind of forum this is.

>>20041592
This is what my e-reader looks like

I like them because I'm cheap and I pirate eBooks on z-library.

>>20041734
Which app is that?

I have thousands of ebooks on my computer, but I only use them for previewing, referencing and emergency backup. If I think something is good, I want the actual book.

>>20041592
I own one and have 1,780 purchased books

>>20041592
I want to buy one but im a third worlder with college student with no income.

>>20041592
mine

>>20041978
Holy BASED

>>20042005
Cool wolf

>>20042051
Thanks, it's my fursona ;)

>>20042067
Hey I'm the anon he's replying, I just like wolves. Asshole.

>>20042051
Don't listen to this anon >>20042070

I LOVE wolves.

They have the advantage of increasing the font size, which causes less eye strain.

>>20042075
:/

i bought one about ten years ago. loved to get free pirated books. hated the lack of having a book in hands.
ff today. because of work i travel a lot, sometimes three weeks and more abroad. love having hundreds of books with me without having to pay for extra luggage or carrying a fuckton of dead tree.

>>20041592
>cons
privacy concerns (they track your reading habbits, speed, pages per session and send it to their servers)
Tied to some sort of account you have to login to and has cloud/sync shit
footnotes are almost impossibly annoying to read
No expansion slots for storage only internal storage space
They're a big clunky with large bevels so they're wider than a phone so you may have trouble carrying one around in your pocket
Blue light can strain your eyes and mess up your sleeping rythm
most ebooks have some form of drm and youll likely be locked to whatever company you purchase the ereader from
overdrive is owned by rakuten so you will only get overdrive on kobo so no borrowing ebooks from your library
even with access to overdrive you can only access certain books on your ereader. Books you look up on your computer on libby etc may not show up on your kobo.
battery life is pretty good but things like wifi can drain the battery quick if you leave it on
if the company decides to revoke your ownership or delete your account you lose all of your books
company might have "safeguards" in place that detect things like sideloading pirated books and causes your whole device to factory reset
locks features like syncing to cloud file storage like dropbox behind more expensive device models
>pros
offline dictionary function
highlighting sentences, paragraphs, etc and being able to view all of your highlights all in one place companies offer a feature with their ebooks that shows sentences that users highlighted the most
newer models have a light built in so there is no need for a book light and you can adjust its brightness or turn it off completely
no eyestrain when compared to using something like a phone or tablet to read
ability to look up things on google or wikipedia directly on the device
relatively long battery life compared to other devices like a phone or tablet
people won't know what book you are reading so you could read whatever without being self conscious about it (but the company will know about it you sick fuck)
ability to store a large amount of books in a small space
you can back up your books in multiple places

Depending on the subject matter, it doesn't take a lot of books to fill a shelf, a desk, or a workshop.

Also needing to plan ahead and take multiple books when travelling because the one you are reading is nearly finished. Take an e-reader and you can choose whatever you feel like reading at the time.

>>20041592
Great for portability, and travel in general. esoecially if you're constantly moving, but in the comfort of your own home, a book is always preferable.

>>20042005
fluffy wolf!

>>20042133
I have a kobo touch I bought for 20 dollars so more than half of your cons don't exist for me
>servers, account, login, cloud, sync, storage, blue light, drm, wifi
Wtf are those lmao

>>20041992
imagine doing something retarded and then going wow i should do that again, a further 1779 times

>>20042133
>privacy concerns (they track your reading habbits, speed, pages per session and send it to their servers)
oh no, that's terrible! lmao what is wrong with you

>>20042166
a book doesn't have a backlight and is annoying to hold open any time, especially when falling asleep

>>20041987
26reads.com
some anon actually built it I think

>>20041761
Same. Saw someone selling a cheap Kobo on marketplace a few months ago and decided to pick it up. Since then I've been reading infinitely more than I used to; I'm actually enjoying reading again instead of just pouring over textbooks for a degree. It doesn't beat holding a book in your hands but there are a lot of pros that offset that, mine has an SD card and a backlight so I'm able to take a bunch of books around and read them wherever. Plus, it saves space/weight when you're travelling, especially if you're flying,

>>20042361
Adding onto this, it definitely depends on what you're reading. It doesn't seem like colour e-ink is commercially viable yet (expensive for mediocre results) so anything where you'd need good colour is still dominated by print media. I've also tried reading textbooks on mine and it just doesn't feel right, it's too small to do the job and going any bigger you might as well just have the textbook with you. For now it seems the technology excels for reading books that are essentially text-only, though I am interested in what further advances will bring to the e-reader industry.

>>20041905

I hate americans so much it's unreal.

>>20042424
Rent free

>>20042308
Yeah, ok. Have a nice day, pal

I bought a Kobo Forma and honestly it was the best decision of my literary life.

I'm not spending a single penny and I'm reading like a monk.

>>20041592
Is there a way to pirate books onto a nook?

>>20041592
question for this thread. obviously ereaders are great and economical. i have a kindle paperwhite that suddnely decided to stop recognizing my desktop or laptop and i can't seem to fix. it also won't connect to wifi and has trouble holding a charge.

i'll look to get a new ereader soon. what is a good one? i see a lot of people mentioning kobo. is it better / more features than a kindle? it's easy enough for me to convert from epub to mobi in calibre. i don't really care about price since i'll use it for hundreds of hours and it will pay for itself anyway after a few months of pirated books. i just want the best device.

thanks

>>20041592
Very useful for binging a series with lots of books. I’m reading the Sharpe novels atm, I’m not buying 25 books.

>>20042424

>>20041592
Just bought one a month ago. It feels a lot better than reading on phone. I'd honestly prefer paper, but third-world countries don't really sell books in English.

>>20041592
For me, it's Kybook 3.
I like to use black background, because it merges with the bezels making the margins looking wider, without taking any additional space.

>>20041966
>Feeling the thickness of the book and its weight in your hands gives you a much more intuitive idea of progress than reading a percentage.
Seeing a progress bar with your eyes gives you a much more intuitive idea of progress than groping for a book's thickness.

if you're an avid reader
this shit saves you so much money it's not even funny

>>20042741
this. some e-readers come with a collections of classics saved in already, so it's a net positive from the start.

>>20042698
ok this is epic

>>20042832
Most of the classics are free anyway as most are in the public domain.

>>20042841
the government doesn't want you to know this but all books older than 70 years are your property. they're literally ours. I have 247 books at home.

They are only good if they have this feature.
https://youtu.be/fDBzQkWeQ5g

>>20042133
Retarded amazon nigger.

It's good but i am considering switching to physical. I've never bought any epubs so I'm assuming it's a better experience, but pretty much every ebook I've downloaded from zlibrary onto my kobo has formatting issues, words that blend together, typos, etc. Maybe I just have really bad luck, but it's noticeable with every single book I've read and sets off my autism something fierce

>>20042854
Kek. In the future, instead of a voice loudly announcing book titles, imagine that holographic scene from Back to The Future 2.
>Also reading Infinite Jest
>Also reading Infinite Jest

>>20042887
Use Libgen as well.

I usually look for books that have a higher file size, as they are usually better formatted. Also don’t download books with an older cover, the newer epubs will have a modern looking cover.

>>20041592
They're good for what they are. The one thing I hate about the kobo clara is that getting to the footnotes is a fucking drag. You either have to read in huge font to be able to press the footnote icon without accidentally turning the page or you have to shift back and forth manually.

>>20042928
>They're good for what they are.
speedreading through fiction is what they're for

>>20042323
What kind of limp wristed faggot can’t hold a 500g book up in bed? I even read Gollancz collections in bed when I’m dozing off, or unwieldy hardbacks. The only thing that is generally annoying is a New Oxford Shakespeare because the pages are so thin.

>>20042854
I forgot how good onion is.

My issue with ebooks is thatpst of them are hooked up to a million different subscription or wifi or whatever services that while are useful also drain battery, put ads in my screen, and track me. Also LCD screen is bad for your eyes at night.

What I want, and I haven't really looked desu because I have an awesome library, is the e reader equivalent of an old school mp3 player/ipod. Just a device that stores files and plays them for you in a decent UI. No wifi card, no log in, no ads. Just an e-book displaying device. It should have a USB port that I can wire into my computer and just chug all my ebook files into it.
Also a paper white screen is necessary, fuck lcds for reading it hurts my onions eyes.

Does such a device exist?

>>20043203
Sony Reader Pocket Edition PRS-350 5" Touch E-Ink E-reader

>>20043203
I bought a kindle last year and literally have never connected to the internet yet. Doing the thing you ask for by using calibre and usb cable

>>20043290
Kindle still has a pop up store and ads, in fact they have since always because I have an old Kindle 4 that does it. He should look into the alternatives like Sony.

For whatever reason I just stopped using mine. Nothing in particular. If I need to read digitally because I'm in bed or on the bus, I just use my phone. But in most cases I feel way more attached to my reading with a physical book. Also it's nice to go to used bookstores and just dig around and find cool, unexpected stuff for cheap. You will never be able to replicate that experience with epubs.

>>20041966
How is that more intuitive than a literal percentage number

>>20043203
>and track me
Meds
MEDS

>>20042485
Love my Forma. Perfect size for every use case -- books, manga, pdf textbook scans

i have a kobo clara hd which works great, easy to bypass account bullshit, easy install koreader, harder to set it up to sync library and progress with my laptop (freefilesync) and then phone (syncthing from laptop). i dont use it very much since lots of physical books get lent or passed on to me by family members, but if i want to get a specific book, ill get it as an ebook.

>>20043992
>>20042728
because haptic feedback is something regular humans tend to enjoy

>>20041885
>weak hands
>can't infer meaning of word with contextual clues
>has to eat while reading
>needs to have access to a bunch of books at the same time for seemingly no reason
>doesn't like to leave the couch
>can't read book font size?
>needs to see popular anything
>those hands truly can't lift anything huh

>>20041885
>defines words for you barely breaking the reading experience
Hate that every time I find a word I need defined, the dictionary doesn't have a definition for it. Reading McCarthy was horrible for this, apparently 'sprent' is so rare a word that it's not even in half of the dictionaries

Wish I had seen this thread before I bought a used Kindle Paperwhite 1 just a minute ago
I was hoping to sideload books from library websites and other free sources

Did I make a mistake? Was there a better option that's just as cheap?

>>20044301
Shoulda gotten a kobo

>>20041592

E-readers are good for novels imo. They kinda suck for textbooks or journal papers tho, since its hard to flip back and forth.

E-readers are so much better than a computer screen / tablet / phone. That shit's unusable.

>>20044301
why you think you can`t do this on kindle?

>>20044301
You can side load books to kindle as well, just download Calibre on your computer.

>>20044361
I buy physical non-fiction, and read fiction on a eReader.

>>20041966
>it learns your reading speed
>it tells you how long it will take to finish the chapter in minutes
>it tells you how long it will take to finish the book in hours/minutes
E-readers are touch devices. Their entire design is built around haptic feedback.

>>20044361
>since its hard to flip back and forth.

But that's also why I dislike them for fiction/novels too. Sometimes I want to flick quickly back to an earlier page to recall a specific detail or re-read a passage from earlier for context. It's clunky and unpleasant to do this on an e-reader.

>>20044361
>E-readers are so much better than a computer screen / tablet / phone.

Phone I woudl agree but that's only because of the relatively smaller screen size. Tablets can be just as portable and you can get pretty decent pdf/e-reader software nowadays (and even some years back). I don't understand your reasoning at all in saying that an -ereader is better than reading from a computer screen other than portability and that e-ink screens are less tiresome for the eyes. Reading from a computer screen is just fine otherwise as long as you take regular eye-breaks.

>>20042485
>>20044029
I've been thinking about swapping from my amazon 2019 to something else.

What's cool about the Forma? Aside from the buttons which are already a great thing, I can't stand swiping on my screen and making it dirty.

>>20044511
or just email it to your kindle address, it will automatically convert some formats and no cable needed.

>>20045041
>e-ink screens are less tiresome for the eyes

This is the best reason though. I stare at a computer screen all day in work, I don’t want to stare at one to read a book when I get home.

>>20041592
hardcover > paperback > ereader using koreader > stock ereader > tablet > phone > mass market paperback

>>20045100
Size and ergonomics are great imo, easy enough to sideload content too. Also really really light without the case

>>20045153
Sell me on koreader

>>20045172
it gives you way more options in terms of page and text layout and font options, without losing any of the basic stuff that you'd want (like a nice looking way of browsing all of your book covers, tracking reading, etc). the options for dictionaries are hugely varied and extremely helpful as well. and probably most importantly, it lets me use what i'm convinced is somehow the nicest font to read on, which is the nintendo switch ui font (google it and try it out, you can find it in like 10 seconds)

they also offer it as an apk, so if you're using an android phone or tablet, you can use it as your reading app there. even though it feels slightly janky on a phone, having tried out basically every single ereader app for android, i still think koreader's the best for the reasons i outlined above

>>20044301
pretty simple to do on a kindle just requires one extra step. most ebooks you find online will be in epub format and you'll have to convert to mobi. then you can just drag them onto your kindle after connecting to your pc just like you'd use a flash drive. most people use a program called calibre to convert, which you would probably want anyway just to keep your ebooks organized and edit metadata.

>>20045268
use azw3 if youre converting from epub3, mobi is fine for epub2 but from epub3 may look weird or broken if the creator used any new or changed elements mentioned here: http://idpf.org/epub/30/spec/epub30-changes.html#sec-new-changed

If I could get my Kobo pregnant I would

>>20045212
>reading books with a sans serif font

Excellent thread

I was considering a e reader but after reading this thread. They seem pozzed af

>tracking
>company can disable machine whenever
>if you get a free book on there it will shut off.

Sounds very shitty. I will stick to books

I want amazon to know I steal all my books and barely read them.

>>20044503
>>20045268
>>20045437

Thank you for the advice!
I really wanted a cheap, serviceable, paperlike because I had a Nook 1st gen when I was younger and I cherished it a lot until it finally broke

I hope I can rekindle the nostalgia with this new one

>>20041905
>bedroom_90s.jpg
She has a Bionicle box on the shelf, which places this squarely in the 2000s. Sorry, zoomer.

>>20041592
Why is /lit/ so high IQ?

>>20041592
I've always preached my hatred for kindles and eReaders of all kinds, but the truth is chaps I've never tried reading on a Kindle before! It will never cometely replace physical books, because I love them and I like writing in the margins.

>>20042887
If you download and learn Calibre you can fix any ebook and convert it to any format. Conceivably this means you could fix it to fit your device through trial and error, until you find the specs that work for you and apply them from that point on universally. In other words download from libgen on your computer, fix it up in Calibre, send it to your device. But I just read on my laptop.
I'm not even a computer nerd by the way, Calibre is easy to figure out.

>>20046400
forget that. why is Wallpapers so high?

>>20046728
because it is le fake

>>20045041
>i can't understand why anybody would think reading off an ereader is better than a tablet or computer screen
>now, let me list a couple of reasons why reading off an ereader is better than a tablet or computer screen
certifiably retarded

>>20041592
I like my shitty kindle. (:

>>20041592
I thought about getting one, but then realized it would be cheaper and more value for my money to just get a tablet.

>>20042133
>privacy concerns (they track your reading habbits, speed, pages per session and send it to their servers)
Why would anyone connect their ereader to the internet?

>>20047386

Those were preference that may sway a person to one side but not necessary stated that the other is so definitively better. Also, the inclusionion of the word 'other' already acknowledges these and posits that statement as a question in its own right that could have illicited the first poster that was being responded to add additonal remarks as to why e-readers are 'better'. Faggot.

>>20041592
>have kobo
>install koreader and mangareader
>syncs highlights and progress to my desktop
>can read on my phone, desktop and kobo and it syncs my progress
nice and comfy, also pays for itself very quickly

>>20043203
>My issue with ebooks is thatpst of them are hooked up to a million different subscription or wifi or whatever services that while are useful also drain battery, put ads in my screen, and track me
amazon issue
>LCD screen is bad for your eyes at night.
they use eink you're looking at cells that are either sent a positive or negative charge causing (literal) ink inside the cell to either float or sink - the backlight as enters from the side so lux and blue light will be lower than if you're reading a book via lamp

>>20041592
I only read paper or listen to audiobooks. I've never read a book on an e-reader and I don't want to. I spend enough time looking at a screen. I want real paper to read. I don't care how easy you think your viewing screens are, they are not natural and it's not the same.

>>20048054
you know written language and paper isn't natural?
>looking at ink on paper good
>looking at ink suspended in clear liquid bad?

>>20048081
True you could argue audiobooks are closer to the old thing. But the discussion is paper vs ereader

>going away for a fortnight
>realise I'll finish the book I'm reading in a couple of days
>not sure what I'll be in the mood to start next
>carry 400 different options with me
E-readers are the greatest invention of our times.

>>20041782
>E-readers tell you the percentage of the way through the book you are, measure your reading speed, and tell you how much longer you have left in the chapter you're reading as well as the remainder of the book.

Do people really give a shit about that? Not everything needs to be a fucking video game.

>>20045105
so you can send epubs to kindle? really?

>>20045678
hasn't happened to me in the 10 years i've owned a kindle

>>20047723
To use the translation option that requires internet

>>20048174
>reading machine translation

>>20045586
yes nice and clean

>>20048138
The guy's point was that a physical book gives you feedback on how much you've read and have yet to read. Also, yeah--I like the time left in a chapter/book feature. It helps me decide if I have time to read the next chapter or want to finish the book before bed. If I'm on the subway and know how long my trip is going to be I can cut myself off if I'm 5 mins away from my stop and if the display says "8 mins left in chapter." It's handy and you're a retard who probably leads a pretty disorganized life if you don't see the value of something like that. (inb4 I can just look at the page number...no shit retard the point is this feature flat out tells you how much time is left).

>>20048107
yes and the statement that reading ink on paper is more natural than ink suspended in liquid is brain dead

The biggest boon of using an ereader compared to a physical book (other than potential cost savings) is being able to select a word and bring up multiple dictonaries, e.g, the OED (the 20 volume one), Webster's third, Longmans pronounciation dictionary, etc.. The default dictionary software on kobo (and probably kindle) is quite bad though and artificially limits the screen size for dictionary entries (reading the OED is especially a pain), so you should be using koreader, or some other third-party ereader software which uses more of the available screen space.

Like other people have said though, ereaders are fairly terrible for anything that you don't read linearly, especially non-fiction. Sometimes I read literature on my ereader for the easy dictionary lookups and have a physical copy on hand if I want to go back and reread sections.

>>20041592
more of a z-reader myself

>>20041592
yes

>>20042497
yeah you plug it into a computer and put epubs and pdfs on it, goofy guy

>>20048107
Audiobooks suffer from the same problems as oral tradition did in the old days as well. Performance matters quite a bit.

>>20042887
https://standardebooks.org/
you got the usual recommendations so you can also add this site to the list
very limited for now, but a pretty cool project in my opinion

>>20048900
youre fucking your head with all those statistics and minmaxing regular activities, you probably have scheduled your toilet visits and have a smart toilet that tells you how much poop is still left in order to save time or to avoid having a "disorganized life"

>>20041592
I have a kindle, but I only use it at the gym. I prop it up on the equipment so I can read while exercising. The rest if the time I prefer to read a physical book

>>20041684
>Touchscreens are fucking gay
Agree, regret buying one. Can't hold it comfortably without constantly fucking highlighting shit or flipping pages.

>>20042379
I've sent technical engineering textbooks for my university degree 10 years ago to my first Kindle 3G in PDF format, it was totally fine to read on the commute and not bring a giant heavy ass book. To be fair It would be hard to do serious study, but as a reference it was perfect

Your mileage may vary

>>20041592
I only read on my phone, with the text and margins big enough that each page is about the length of a tweet.

If it's any longer I lose track of where on the page I am.

>>20042832
>>20042841
with libgen every book is free

>>20050370
at a job i used to work at i was told i couldn't read a book at work (occasionally we would have 15-20 minute gaps in between tasks) but we were allowed to go on our phones, so i downloaded a pdf of anna karenina and read it on my iphone 4, single least enjoyable reading experience of my life don't know how you do it.

>>20050199
>No! You're obsessed with statistics! You saw "38mins left in book" and decided to go to bed!
I stand by my observation that you're a disorganized faggot; you're the type of retard who'd be confused by an egg timer and genuinely blown away by boomer stories about knowing to go home when the streetlights came on.

>>20050434
I find PDFs difficult to read too though, especially on anything smaller than a computer screen. But for e-book formats the phone works well for me. Setting a big font and greater line spacing weirdly helped me a lot. I actually think it's easier than reading physical books now.

nook, kindle, or kobo?
or is there something else?

>>20042592
>suddnely decided to stop recognizing my desktop or laptop and i can't seem to fix.
Are you using the same cord that came in the box? I had that issue when I wasn’t using the proper kindle cord. Not every USB cable works.

>>20041592
They’re literary par excellence when in night mode.

got a onyx boox note air 2. it's a writing slate too so i can hand write notes to my books as i go. fucking comfy as. i have a calibre server loaded up with thousands of downloads from libgen, archive and #bookz. i also have a kiwix server with a full copy of project gutenberg so i have access to tens of thousands of books on my local network to read for free whenever i like.

My sister gave me her remarkable 2 for Christmas and after installing some hacks it’s actually pretty based. I don’t have any experience with other ereaders or paper tablets but I enjoy this thing.

>>20046400
>/v/
>not dead last
That's how I know that this old graph is fake as fuck. Don't even need to argue /lit/'s case.

>>20041684
What the fuck do you need SD cards for when even big books are like 20mb at most? There isn't an e-reader that exists thats worth using for something like a textbook, academic papers etc. which would be the only things you'd need the space for. Even some small amount like 8gb is hundreds of books on its own.

>>20041592
Too expensive for a 3rd worlder like me. A huge mugging magnet. I don't even walk around with my mobile phone anymore. No one will think of stealing a fucking book so I always take one with me to read inbetween 1+ hours commutes. I mostly read pdfs at home

>>20041905
I just bought that Mac.

Anyone suggest a decent color ebook reader? My young kid has a shitload of books and they're taking up too much space. I'd like to slim them down and just keep the ones that are particularly good, while giving her the option.

>>20046122
Zoomer doesn't mean child you know?

>>20056033
I think he's implying that a zoomer would assume that room was in the 90s but a TRUE 90s kid would know better!
But yeh, it's a bit pedantic. 95% of the thing in that pic could be had in the late 90s.

>>20041992
Libgen
Now

>>20041592
I use them now because I dont want a ton of books laying around. also cheaper books/free books

>>20055162
Pragmatic. Where u live?

>>20041592
my ability to read should not be governed by the electricity being on

>>20057003
they have batteries
and solar chargers exist
>inb4 i shoudn't need the sun to read

>>20057003
My ability to read whenever I want should not be governed by picking up propane for my gaslight.

>>20041592
It's defo the pragmatic choice but there's something kind of sad about losing the physicality of a thing. Which I guess is nostalgia and fetishizing a purchased Thing but idk. I like the Thingness of Things

>>20041592
I can read fine myself, thanks.

>>20042325
Thank you, fren

Am I insane for reading on my desktop?

>>20057344
Valuing a tactile experience just means you still value the real. Man is a physical creature that exists in a very real physical world. As well, virtuality in no way implies an absence of materialism. It’s just a type of materialism that takes up less physical space.

>>20041592
Reading on a screen gives me insane after imaging, so I'm not much of a fan.

>>20042133
literally just don't turn on the wifi
>>20047723
this
I just pirate everything, calibre just werks

>>20043312
it literally doesn't. Make a new account when you buy the kindle and as soon as it connects and gives you all the features, turn off wifi. Simple as.

>>20057394
if you're reading pdfs, no
if you're reading epubs, yes

>>20041992
>1,780 purchased books
How the fuck do you put up with the closed garden drm bullshit. I had to JB my paperwhite to read the books I paid for without it keep asking me to sync online. Then had to strip out the drm just so could read them on my kobo. You are basiclly punished for being a good boy and buying books.
Download books form 'elsewhere', now get zero problems.

>>20041592
/ck/ here

I just bought myself a used, 1st generation Kindle Oasis. I really like it, and it's a massive upgrade compared to my old Kindle 2. Considering that I don't have a lot of space in my apartment, it's awesome for my needs.

The only physical books that I buy nowadays are cookbooks.

My Sony e-reader from 2013 is starting to show its age and I'm sure the new models have intriguing bells and whistles. I assume I can migrate my calibre library pretty easily to any new e-reader. Any suggestions? Looking to spend around $300 max

My dream device would be a 13 inches (or more) eink tablet that can be both a computer screen AND a standalone e-reader with stylus and shit. Also colors and a dedicated software for drawing.

I’d sell my left nut to buy that.

>>20058661

https://shop.boox.com/products/maxlumi2 That exists, minus colors.

>>20057704
Ebooks are physical things that you hold onto.

>>20058809
Max Lumi 2 can't be connected via HDMI like Max Lumi 1 or Max 3.
Though frankly, connecting those via remote desktop protocols worked better anyway.
Lumi 2 does seems to have a reflectivity problem compared to its predecessors.

>>20041734
This desu. I have a Kobo Nia which I do like but my phone has a monochromatic mode have found myself reading more and more on it. Lithium is also a great reader on the phone

>>20042078
But they also tend to exacerbate strabismus, which drives me batshit.

>>20041592
I feel sad because mine broke

>trusting digital cringe

>>20041592
Necessary for pdfs and word searches but factually an inferior format.

>>20048138
I do, and I hate myself for it

What's a good ereader phone app? I've been using FBreader but it doesn't support pdfs without me paying for it.

>>20041592
e-readers are great for airplane rides. But thats about it. But I also can and read on my phone. I've finished epubs in entire sittings. But anywhere else I find a physical book to be much more enticing.

>>20060663
ReadEra

Does anybody have something like the Note Air 2? I’ve had a kindle for years and I loved it for fiction, but nonfiction is very hard to read on it. Note taking feels cumbersome on it, and navigation is slow if you want to flip from one page to like the index or something. It just feels worse than having the book if you’re going back and forth and navigating pages. Having a more tablet sized e-reader with a better processor and PDF functionality (for pirating) seems promising, but I’m afraid it is still going to feel like a sacrifice for the free books rather than something that adds convenience.

>>20061402
>Does anybody have something like the Note Air 2?
yep. can handle pdfs fine which is why i got one in the first place. the sheer size of it can take a while to get used to if you're coming from something smaller. the UI and default settings can be pretty clunky and weird and take a bit to dial in. highlighting and note taking is very good and intuitive however. i take notes on a lot of really old architectural books. it's great for that. being able to zoom right in on a small technical drawing and add my notes at the same scale is really neato.

I have the newest edition Paperwhite and I absolutely love it, but I started reading again about 2 years ago and I used a galaxy S20 with an app called Lithium before the kindle.
I stopped reading about 6-8 years ago and that was all real books, but with picking reading back up on my phone and then the kindle, I fucking love it.

>>20050300
I found trying to navigate textbook pdfs with tons of biological pathway diagrams (microbiology here, typically more colour in our diagrams as well) was more hassle than it was worth, but for chapters or books that are more text-heavy it was tolerable. I did go into it with the intention of using them as my primary studying text though so for that it definitely wasn't worth the hassle. Ended up just buying the ones I wanted second-hand and viewing them on a PC for the others desu.

Thought i would miss the feeling of holding a book, but i dont mind it. I instantly started preferring my libra 2, pirating books id probably procrastinate in ordering otherwise is too good.

>>20041592
I was always reticent. But I fucking love my kindle. It makes it so much easier and faster reading. No more rolling back and fourth and trying to wrestle with a giant book awkwardly for the first 100 pages. Just sit it in the perfect position and read. Plus, free books from zlib forever. Also the battery life is incredible. Will never go back

>>20061822
Thanks, I went ahead and ordered one. I’ve been thinking about it for a while, but ever since I got the kindle I thought of ereaders as relatively cheap little devices. The tablet ereaders get into the several 100s of dollars, so didn’t really want to risk being disappointed. But I’ve only really heard good things, and I’m always annoyed when I have a good PDF of some book I’ve pirated trapped on my phone or desktop. The kindle is still generally fine for novels, but anything else and it honestly feels shittier than my phone.

>>20057003
>power goes out
>no light
>can't see any of paper books
>e-reader has a backlight and enough battery to last another week.

>>20063024
I like to use a tablet for biology textbooks. Feels more comfy having something in your hand than reading on a PC

Owning an E-reader means Amazon or whatever other company can just delete everything I own if I have the wrong politics, so no, I prefer physical books, thank you.

>>20063899
That's absolutely not true for the non-Kindle models and barely true for the Kindle.
Most readers work perfectly fine without internet connection and even the stuff you buy in ebook shops can't simply be removed.
The 1984 incedent was in 2009 and nothing similar has happened since.

>>20063914
Sure, but they can delete your account which means that if your kindle ever loses its content you have to pirate books.

>>20063928
>having non-pirated content on your kindle
ngmi
it is trivial to remove DRM from amazon files.

>>20041606
fpbp

>>20064001
I'm a kindle new fag. Where do you pirate books

>>20041592
>not lifting stone tablets
Ngmi

>>20063893
Unfortunately my only devices at the moment for reading are pc/phone/e reader. I love the functionality of tablets especially with a digital pen to annotate lecture material and textbooks, but I'm not at a point where I want to drop substantial cash on one just yet. Trying to be a medfag though so once I get in that'll be my celebration purchase for sure.
I also prefer having something tangible so any textbook that I know I'd be referring to a lot I end up purchasing. Lehningers Biochemistry is a fucking kino textbook and I'd happily carry that giant thing around any day.

>Walk into the library feeling like the biggest Chad. Im not renting this book you see, it's my property I have brought and have the freedom to mangle anyway I like, unlike your free books. You'll notice how I've kept it relatively pristine, like I just purchased it.

total newbie here, what are some must have features of a decent(not top notch, just normal) e-reader? recommended brands?
are there some brands one needs to be careful about for things like compatibility? e.g random pdfs

>>20041592
I like a nice book or manga don't care for screen staring

>>20041651
Yeah thats why i only read relatively short books on the e-reader. Its kind of soulcrushing when you read a long book on it and 1 % is 10 pages. It really makes reading feel like a fucking waste of time, even if the book is good. Im a zoomer, I need my stimulation

>>20064292
libgen is your friend

>>20064292
start with z-lib, it's a front-end to libgen with daily limited downloads and a much more usable interface. If you can manage libgen's interface then you can use that instead