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what the fuck dude put it back edition

previous: >>20017339

>> No.20026765

Why is the sky dark at night?

>> No.20026770
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20026770

what's your latest interest/hobby/phase?

>> No.20026780

>>20026770
>debating my nihilist anti-capitalist atheist coworker buddy
>steely dan
>behavioral psych
>cubism

>> No.20026798

>>20026770
see >>20025960

>> No.20026810

>>20026765
No light passing through it, dude. They don’t cover this in school?

>> No.20026851

>>20026770
I broke my ankle so badly that it needed surgery, so I’ve had a lot of free time. Apart from the obvious “reading/writing” answers, I’ve been playing Metroid Dread on a borrowed switch. I was a big fan of Metroid fusion when I was a kid, so it’s been quite nice distracting myself with the nostalgia of finally playing the sequel. Took me a little while to come around to this one, but eventually it clicked and I think it definitely holds its own against the earlier 2D metroids with enough unique elements to keep it surprising.

I’ve also been buying a lot more rare vinyl lately. When I can’t go outside or exercise, that’s when I start to obsess over material objects. Which makes me worried that I will become a hoarder (like my mother) in my old age when I am unable to exercise anymore. I hope I take after my father who is in his 70s and potentially in better shape than I am.

>> No.20026853

>>20026810
No, it's because the universe has a beginning. It's called the Olbers' paradox. If the universe had an infinite beginning, then all the light from the stars in the universe would be hitting the Earth right now.

>> No.20026856

Every conversation I have with my dad consists of him telling me how much he hates my mother.

>> No.20026859

>>20026770
Prostate milking
Hiking
All Time Low

>> No.20026860
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Is goldsmithing a viable profession to take up nowadays? Or even a lapidary? I've been curious about working within those types of artistic handicraft ventures but i didn't have much luck in finding any substantial information of what it's really like to do that for a living and the up/downsides to doing business in those fields. I just want to get decent at any type artistic craftsmanship and work for my own account while still having time to follow other artistic ventures as well (such as writing), but nobody has ever been able to tell me if it's doable or if it's too far up in dreamland to be achievable.
I don't even know how or where people learn how to do that stuff.

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20026861

Imagine having a daughter in the 21st century. During summer I see men in their 40's/50's walking around with their teenage daughters, who are dressed like prostitutes: tits exposed, legs and thighs out, makeup caked on. The father pays thousands of dollars a year so she can go to college where she majors in cock and minors in 'fuck white people' studies. How does a mondern father with a daughter not kill himself out of shame?

>> No.20026953

>>20026853
Not enough light in the atmosphere to light it up like the sun does.

>> No.20026959

To the anons in last thread struggling to find a job:

Have you tried applying to places all over not just in close proximity to you? Larger surrounding cities? Or even other side of country, other countries?

Have you tried job hosting networking sites like Linkdn and ziprecruiter, indeed, monster?

>> No.20026966

>>20026770
Kierkegaard has consumed the last 3 months of my life

>> No.20026982

>>20026758
It's interesting how American news media has an unwritten scale determining how important a death is. If 12+ Mexicans die it gets almost no coverage but if the same happened in Canada or France lots of people would be talking about it. And when it comes to Africa the weight per death drops to almost nothing.

>> No.20026996

>>20026765
>>20026853

Space is very very ^very very very big, compared to earth very small.

We do see the light of other stars, dots of light in the sky, travels billions of light years away and gently kisses our eyes, continously; you looking in new York, someone else in Texas, someone else I'm California, can look at the same star,
Radiating light out in every direction, touches all your eyes, you look up at the night sky and see a million stars at once, all that light traveling all that way, countinously, to gently kiss your eyes.

You look at our sun in the day time, a white orb blinds you, it fills the sky with brightness, but earth turns, and blocks it, no longer to be seen, that light is still traveling all through the space around earth, as well as all those stars light, when you look up though you just see black, because there are not enough atoms in space to scatter and reflect the light into your eyes.

>> No.20027012

>>20026996
The blackness is actually the beginning of the universe before stars formed.

>> No.20027021

>>20026758
I tried reading proclus' on the theology of plato, and I couldn't follow it at all.

>> No.20027023

i have dabbled in the practice of note-taking, but after noticing that it became more about the methodology rather than the result, the means rather than an end, i knew it was mostly a waste of time. busy work for fools who think their methodology will grant them insight, wisdom, understanding. the time spend developing, maintaining, and feeding into these systems only steals time away from the more important task of reading, studying, etc.

my conclusion is this: have an end in mind before developing a means. think about why you want to take notes on a book. are you going to write about it? are you taking a test? is it part of some other research? and so on.

>> No.20027024

>>20026758
I just spent a decent amount of time walking around listening to Com Truise thinking about what efforts I can make to radically change my life, and the only sensible thing that stuck out of my brainstorming was to pursue a martial art. I don't know which one is right for me, though...

>> No.20027025

>>20026770
In books? sociology and military history

In music? noise rock and electroacoustic music

In other media? old sitcoms from the 80s

>> No.20027032

In another thing, I had a debate with a feminist and antitheist on discord and figured out pretty quick they're not really "anti-male" but "anti-humanity" and "anti-natalist" as well

>> No.20027034

>>20026861
The modern father jesters for women in a gynocentric culture; he's accepted his servitude willingly so as not to make waves within his family unit or society at large.

>> No.20027038

>>20026982
This is very true, but native Africans are also not part of American culture.

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Women can only be funny when they're pure.

>> No.20027055

Write every day. Force yourself to write. Even if what you write is shit. A page full of shit is better than an empty page.

>> No.20027064

>>20027055
I did that and got criticized by the board.

>> No.20027079

>>20026758
We have been lied to. There is no freedom in the US, only bondage and servitude.

Wealth and class are the only true indicators of freedom. Freedom comes not from the ownership of capital, but from the ownership of one’s time. The working class is not free because our time does not belong to ourselves. And yet, many are fooled by an illusion of freedom because we have capital to exchange for goods and services from our oppressors. This unequal exchange only makes our oppression easier.

Within many of us, there is a compulsion to consume. A compulsion that comes from being inundated with near-constant propaganda. We are told that we must consume to better ourselves. One cannot watch a video about climate change without being forced to sit through ads peddling the very cause of the crisis. We cannot escape these commands. They’ve been integrated into our entertainment, our news, and even the platforms that we use to communicate with each other. We’re always being reminded that consumption is king and that our value is tied directly to it. To be without is to be useless.

This is our bondage. Buy a house. Fill it with knickknacks and expensive furniture, electronics, and appliances. Buy these on credit so that you can have them now rather than later. Replace them when you’re told that they’re out of date or when they cease to function due to planned obsolescence. Start a family that you cannot properly care for due to the lack of social welfare that in less sociopathic nations helps parents provide for their offspring without having to spend hours apart from them every day. Purchase a car so that you can spend hours in traffic every week, killing the planet in the process. Just so that you can trade your freedom to cover the costs of your consumption.

All of these actions are taken for granted by our population. It’s the very picture of success to have a large house, smiling family, and loads of debt. But it’s this consumption that allows us to be controlled. It’s either a happy accident for our oppressors or an orchestrated plot on a grand scale.

>> No.20027085

>>20027055
I beg to differ. A blank page is like an infant; full of inert potential, patiently waiting for your mind to catalyze the trajectory of the words on the page. A page full of shit will only disappoint you, possibly anger you, even; it will only serve to make you realize how you wasted your time and objectively made your life worse.

>> No.20027088

>>20027079
We spend so much time and capital to build these lives that we have no other option but to sell our labor for a pittance of its actual value. We receive pennies for this labor while our oppressors live lavish lifestyles off the backs of our servitude. We’re taught to think that this is moral. That this is a system that benefits us all. That if we work hard enough, we too could become a member of the oppressors. The same oppressors that pit us against each other on the basis of race, gender, and ideology—fracturing any chance we have of real solidarity.

However, if we try to stand up and change the system or organize to improve our conditions, all that we’ve built is threatened. An individual cannot fight back against their oppressor without putting their home, family, or even their entire livelihood at risk. For the vast majority of Americans, freedom is merely conceptual. The poor and the working class cannot know freedom. Freedom is something only the very wealthy among us understand from experience. The only freedom that we have is the freedom to choose which oppressor we’d like to grovel under.

We’re taught history as if it’s a continual march of progress. The errs of the past have been solved. We are now a better, more moral people than our ancestors. This too is propaganda. The working class in this country may as well live in a company town, not unlike those we were taught about in grade school. The towns where rich mine and factory owners controlled not only the means of production, but also the shops, the housing, and all of the infrastructure. The United States of America is a company town. We work so that we can consume the very products of our labor. All our capital goes right back to our oppressors. We can’t even attend to our health without signing a contract of servitude.

This system cannot be reformed. It must be destroyed. Either we take a stand and fight, or the system will collapse under its own weight, leading to untold levels of suffering for the very victims that the system has exploited. Our oppressors know what they are doing. They believe they can weather whatever crisis that comes. We will not be so lucky.

>> No.20027094

the Bach of the vibraphone, the Beethoven of landscape painting, the Haydn of chess, the Mozart of mushrooms, the Mendelssohn of Hinduism, the Puccini of pop, the Wagner of rock, the Billie Holiday of ballet, the Benny Goodman of duck-calling, the Frank Sinatra of chatterbots, the Elvis Presley of neurology, the Mick Jagger of climate change, the Plato of freemasonry, the Aristotle of the airwaves, the Socrates of snails, the Democritus of modern linguistics, the Euclid of chemistry, the Archimedes of minigolf, the Kepler of etymology, the Copernicus of rodent control, the Galileo of the soccer ball, the Newton of terrorism, the Faraday of window-glass making, the Galois of tobacco science, the Einstein of sex, the Leonardo of ice cream, the Michelangelo of Lego sculptures, the Rembrandt of movie-making, the Picasso of sidewalk art, the Dante of criminal psychology, the Milton of middle-class comedy, the Shakespeare of advertising, the Balzac of the supernatural, the Goethe of Urdu literature, the Byron of the Browning automatic rifle, the Pushkin of feminism, the Tolstoy of 21st-century television, the Proust of the comic book, the Ernest Hemingway of media bloggers, the Thomas Pynchon of internet trolls, the P.T. Barnum of Polynesian pop, the Mae West of tiger taming, the Marilyn Monroe of hip-hop, the Meryl Streep of spitting, the Fellini of photography, the Stanley Kubrick of pornography, the Walt Disney of consumer electronics, the Bill Gates of wastewater, the Rockefeller of video games, the Babe Ruth of bank robbers, the Evel Knievel of oncologists, the Michael Jordan of bagpiping, the Tiger Woods of user-generated video, the Lance Armstrong of tough-guy jokes, the Usain Bolt of cognitive science, the Serena Williams of apathy, the Paul Revere of ecology, the Napoleon of fossil bones, the Rasputin of rockabilly, the Hitler of snuggling, the Franco of fricassee, the Mussolini of mulligatawny, the Mao Tse-Tung of gay soap operas, the Mahatma Gandhi of restaurant criticism, the Che Guevara of tango, the Richard Nixon of superheroes, the Indira Gandhi of astrophysics, the Osama bin Laden of monkeys, the George Bush of Oscar hosts, the Barack Obama of Tamil cinema, the Tarzan of the pole vault, the Sherlock Holmes of Yiddish music…

>> No.20027121

>>20026770
Trying to get whores to marry me.

>> No.20027133

>>20026758
The less I read, the more stupid I feel. The more I read, the more stupid I feel. I keep wanting to write, but I have nothing to say, just useless images that couldn't mean a squirt of piss on a screen, let alone in someone's imagination. I keep going back to books to get my brain jogging, but my brainstorming is a fucking useless hurricane without reason and focus. Maybe I should just make some dumbass ARG blog to have an excuse to type shit and make absurdist half-baked bullshit. I fucking hate myself.

>> No.20027144

>>20026861
You will never summon the courage to get married and have children, which is an immense risk, but it’s (one of) the only ways to meaningfully change the modern hellscape we exist in and fully reach your potential as a human being. Keep snickering from the sidelines on your perpetual hedonistic treadmill, faggot

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20027147

I turn 24 soon, bros

>> No.20027149

Is philosophy hindered by the existence of universities? It seems like the wonder that Ancient Greeks approached the discipline with died at some point and I'm trying to pinpoint when.

>> No.20027163

>>20026861
people prefer it actually
they adjust well to society and even attain success easily by doing that

>> No.20027166

>>20026770
cycling

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>>20027147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSRK74CoLn0

>> No.20027183

>>20027149
I made an argument similar to people like Ivan Illich and Neil Postman that education should be reduced to something like the Socratic method and open libraries and decentralized structures where the teacher/student distinction should be eradicated or at the very least delimited, so its more of a collective learning experience. sure it sounds kind of utopian but I think universities existed as a gatekeeping mechanism that's keeping out the gifted and letting people in that are more interesting in advancing an agenda than actually learning anything.

>> No.20027189

i've started entertaining the idea of retraining as an electrician
of course, i know nothing about electricity and have no particular passion for it, no understanding of the sector, no serious research of what pathway i could take to that having already blown my government funding on something else, no. just an idea.

>> No.20027192

>>20027055
This has been on my mind lately. Why write? You already know what you're going to write before writing, so who are you writing for? You could spend all time re-reading, re-writing, fixing the sentence structure, the flow, and so on and for what exactly? The next person to read the work could tell you it's garbage. And even if that person told you it was the best thing he's ever seen in his life, you didn't gain anything else. You weren't trying to write the best thing he's ever seen in his life. You were simply writing. It's like breathing, why does it matter if you breathe like Wim Hof or not? I suppose the question is what's the line between thought and writing? Why write what you already know? It's like noting down everything you've ever experienced and have memorized.

>> No.20027195 [DELETED] 

We are not demiurges. We are gardeners.

>> No.20027203

>>20027055
>A page full of shit is better than an empty page
Why? What am I supposed to get out of this process if I stick to it? Countless pages of shit? What do I do with them? What intangible dividend is the habit itself meant to give me that is more valuable than the actual words I write?
t. writes everyday, probably suffers from mild hypergraphia

>> No.20027217

>>20027192
It's craftsmanship. You mold. You catch that which is fleeting.

>> No.20027226

>>20026770
Just got a kindle and have started reading more. so far I read Book of the New Sun, and currently reading Illuminatus!

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>>20027147
I have exactly a week left before my birthday. I'm really considering the thought of shooting myself, as i have realize that i reached a dead end in my life, and any further time i might spend will only result in increasing my weight as a burden, bring more pain and clog more space in this already saturated world. I failed completely. I could have done anything I would have wanted to do, but for some goddamned fucking reason, i remained a bitch and did nothing whatsoever. I don't deserve to go on.

>> No.20027265

>>20027012
No it's full of light, there's just no atoms there to reflect the light in our eyes.

You look at the night sky and see black, even though the sky is full of atoms,

When the sun is out even if you look opposite the sun you see not black, because the air atoms reflect the light back into your eyes.

If space was full of atoms all the stars light would be reflected into your eyes.

Because no space sky atoms; all the light just keeps radiating and going, but not reflected

>> No.20027273

>>20027025
>In other media? old sitcoms from the 80s
Anything good? Don't know if I ever watched any

What are you attracted to in them as opposed to other eras

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>>20026860
>Is goldsmithing a viable profession to take up nowadays?
Like any sort of craft it's entirely down to marketing and finding a client base. If you don't have a particular market in mind: no.
I can see you have a slight advantage over say 3D printed jewellery or the girls who make Plasticine cigarette butts for earrings in that gold or gemstones still has a intrinsic value (unless you work purely on commission). However how you command that premium for your craftsmanship remains an issue.

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>>20027265
When you look at the sky, the light is from billions of years away. That means you're looking at their past, that is what the stars were billions of years ago, not what they are locally to themselves. The universe has a temporal edge. There's enough space between stars that we're able to see the beginning of the universe. You can see the beginning of the universe because time is relative and the only constant is light.

>> No.20027306

>>20026758
My penis is freaking huge

>> No.20027322

Why is everyone on /lit/ obsessed with religion and women?

>> No.20027330

>>20027094
the anon of poetry

>> No.20027335

>>20027322
They lack meaning in the modern capitalist world and weren’t trained to socially deal with and court women due to poor parenting and a societal structure that left them alienated from the world, thus they seek what is beyond the world for salvation with the materialist pleasures haunting them throughout.

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>>20027322
>and women?
C’mon!

>> No.20027377

my brain has been balkanized

>> No.20027378

>>20027274
We mainly see stars in the milky way no? With our eyes.

Those stars constantly radiate light in all directions for the past billions years.

If the light from those stars can travel a million years and enter your eye continously, and we assume if you trsveled around any direction that stars light would always hit your eye; does this not imply, that the light being radiated from all those stars, is occupying all space?

>> No.20027384

>>20027322
>Why is everyone on /lit/ obsessed with religion and women?
It's been a pretty human thing for the last 70,000 years or so.

>> No.20027402

>>20027273
I like ALF, Family Ties, Married With Children, Perfect Strangers, Family Matters, I guess (reluctantly) Who's The Boss and maybe Full House?

I guess its the fact I got to experience some of the 80s as I'm 39 (almost 40) and yes, those were better times.

>> No.20027430

My dream life would be to live at least 15 minutes from the California coast and work at trader joes. I went to at least 2 trader Joe's in California, one near San Luis Obispo and the other near Santa Clarita and they were two if the best experiences of my life. I don't think I have ever experienced more enchanting, invigorating weather as in California, the sun, the blue skies, the fresh air, the gentle breeze, the ocean mist, the redwoods and palm trees, I hiked up some small mountains and felt absolutely beyond perfect, I felt complete and whole and righteous, I was with a friend, we walked so slowly back, time was so slow, no rush, nowhere to go, just bathing purely in the sun, the energies of nature just comforting me, basking me in it's glow, wrapping me in a continual hug of comfort, eternal spring, eternal summer, one single cosmic day if heaven forever, God I love you

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Is it worth it having a Wingman? There's a friend I know who may be sympathetic to my cause of romancing this girl I like (whom I suspect likes me back too).

>> No.20027621

You're given 2 pieces of paper randomly numbered from 1 out of ∞. As soon as you see one of the pieces of paper the other has a 100% chance to be a bigger number because there's infinitely more bigger numbers.

>> No.20027629

>>20027598
Could be difficult, you have to expect the worst Incase it occurs, therefore you cannot be saddened; expect your wingman and your crush to meet and fall in love, sneak away while youre.all at the bar for them to passionately make love in the bathroom, you hear their moans and stall shaking from the booth as you sip your shirely temple.

Prepare for the worst, anything better this will appear as a blessing.

It is best to have a wingman if you are interacting with a larger group of ladies so your wingman has less chance of out handsome charismaing you and getting the one.

If it's only one girl, and you really really are into her and legitly dream of being relational with her, start the pure truth of those possible relations yourself, with her, as you are longing at least a simple part of your interaction to be.

>> No.20027638

>>20027621
Therefore, it's impossible for the pieces of paper to be smaller than each other. Both pieces of paper are bigger than the other.

>> No.20027658

>>20027629
It's more for the latter in my situation, I don't think I'm cut out for the life of the former nor do I want it.

Anyways, the reason I was asking is because me and this girl met through a mutual friend of ours (male) who I hang out with regularly. I legitimately think he's been friendzoned at this point, due to how long they seem to be interacting platonically with her. And I think he's fine with that as well - in that he doesn't necessarily view her in that way as well. So I was thinking of perhaps enlisting his help to... I don't really know now to be honest.

>If it's only one girl, and you really really are into her and legitly dream of being relational with her, start the pure truth of those possible relations yourself, with her, as you are longing at least a simple part of your interaction to be.
I already did, I asked her out. I didn't get a no she simply said that she was too busy right now, and from what I've seen and personal experience (I was in her position at one point) she's not lying. It was a blessing in disguise, though, since I also got swamped with work a few days after asking her out. Anyways furthermore, she gave me a timeframe that we can go out, when we're both not busy.

>> No.20027666

>>20027226
What capacity d'ya get anon? I got an 8GB one but I've filled most half of it already.

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>>20027183
I agree about the gatekeeping thing. It's a huge problem because it actually prevents philosophy/literature from being more popular with the public, and they're trained to see it as useless.

I would argue that golden age Athens is the ideal intellectual climate, because you have tons of young men paying Sophists just to teach them rhetorical techniques and knowledge. And stoicism was huge in Rome too. Both of these are philosophical, yet neither relied on the university structure. And when there were universities, it was "This is how our system of thought works", NOT "Here's a history of all systems of thought. Choose one to specialize in and have fun, lol!"

So now we have modern sophists like Jordan Peterson catering to the masses while the real intellectuals are stuck in ivory towers circlejerking one another and intellectual discussion cannot happen in the mainstream. We will not ever have another Rome where Horace and Cicero stand alongside Caesar, because real intellectualism is dead, and universities probably killed it.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe universities aren't the problem. But if not, I want a good answer for what is.

>> No.20027715

Now I’m in your ass yeah I’m fuckin it Ooo I’m gonna sweat I’m gonna cum

>> No.20027728

>>20026770
I'm growing hot peppers now, can recommend if you like plants and soicy food. Especially if you already know hot tongrow weed because it works pretty much the same.
Got into chess before that but I still suck at it. Fun though.
Was starting to lift weights but burned my foot with hot water so that half the skin fell off and it still hurts a bunch so now I don't feel like I can lift.

>> No.20027733

>>20027728
God damn phone keyboard

>> No.20027735

>>20027715
What is the DEAL with BUTTHOLES??

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>>20027728
>SOIcy food

>> No.20027741

yo all ma niggaz we eat real good
on my momma i take care of ma homies
str8 spreads errynite nigga tf u kno bout that
finna surprise em niggas wit a turkey dinner

>> No.20027743

>>20027741
That's good I'm glad you're well

>> No.20027744

I invented pants. You're welcome, everyone.

>> No.20027747

I HAD A DREAM WHERE TWO GIANT GNATS BURROWED THEIR WAY OUT OF MY GRANDMOTHER'S NIPPLES

>> No.20027749

>>20027740
I knew that was comming and I deserved it

>> No.20027751

>>20027744
Imagine if you will, if pants were instead spelt as pance. Just a funny little thought :)

>> No.20027752

I'VE GOT SHARP TEETH GROWING INSIDE MY EYES

>> No.20027753

It's happened, /lit/. I fell in love with a prostitute. This is even worse than when I fell in love with a woman who I knew loved me back but things couldn't work for circumstantial reasons. All of the same pains are back, but there is even less I can do about it.

>> No.20027754

>>20027753
Have you paid her to shit on your chest yet?

>> No.20027755

>>20027147
>>20027240
Today is my 29th birthday, I had cake alone bros. I've accomplished nothing, read only a small number of the books that I would like to read, and every year it seems like everything gets worse. Not sure I'll even make it to 30 considering the retards that run our government might instigate a nuclear war.

>> No.20027759

>>20027755
ya'll some depressing niggas
shit get off 4chan nigga tf u doing it's monday
str8 up nigga dont even look at ur phone or ur comp tomorrow morn just go 4 a walk nigga
str8 up homie eat a nice breakfast n just sit and enjoy nothing nigga tf u need this website for nigga wtf u wildin'

>> No.20027761

>>20027430
Isn't Trader Joes for rich people just like Whole Foods?

>> No.20027762

>>20027755
like 4real nigga go join a club or sum shit nigga join a book club or sum shit nigga tf my nigga stop looking for external shit to blame 2 justify u just being a lazy bitch nigga who aint do shit nigga tf fuck yo anxiety nigga everyone is afraid of shit nigga tf u feel special for shit nigga

>> No.20027765

>>20027755
You are exactly one year younger than my brother, give or take a few months

>> No.20027774

>>20027755
like 4real u bitch as nigga wtf "wahh i've accomplished nothing" tf kinda gay fluffy flowery shit is that nigga who tf cares about ur legacy nigga we live like medieval kings nigga like u can go get a giant chicken n eat that shit nigga and eat a bunch of decadent chocolate nigga str8 tf up yo you humans are bitch made niggas who literally just make up shit to feel sad over like shit nigga time travel back to the 1300s n tell a serf nigga who eats moldy ass bread and boiled bitch nigga potatoes all bout ur bitch nigga crybaby bookfag problems n watch how dis dirty nigga str8 laugh at u son n i hope he topples ur bitch ass n steals yo shit nigga

>> No.20027838
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my homosexual urge diminished a lot and I started to like women again, I feel normal again

>> No.20027852
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Any book recs on how to understand women? I'm a 29 year old khv.

>> No.20027913

>>20026765
the moon covers the sun, obiously

>> No.20027915

>>20026798
anon post pic and name of the character

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>>20027915
here's a shitty .jpg of the cover of her book

>> No.20027958

>>20027838
>be gay for a week
why are zoomers like this?

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>>20027955
her name is Harriet M. Welsch and i love her so fucking much bros

>> No.20027974

>>20026758
Just had a very tasty meal so I'm going to have a beer and go to sleep. It will no doubt be peaceful and pleasant. I dread everything to follow

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>>20027955
>>20027959

>> No.20027991

>>20027981
>frogposter
kill yourself.

>> No.20027996

>>20027991
okay pedo

>> No.20027997

>>20026758
I love God

>> No.20028002

>>20027996
i just want to come home to her after a long day of working and then we cuddle in bed until she falls asleep in my arms
i love her so much bros it's unreal

>> No.20028004

>>20027997
>>20027997
Jah*

>> No.20028014

>>20028004
He has a lot of names

>> No.20028050

Would you rather be killed by someone who wants to see you specifically dead out of hatred or someone who just sees killing you as a means to an end?

>> No.20028058

>>20028050
The first

>> No.20028064

>>20028050
the first one (and the person doing the deed would be myself)

>> No.20028107

>>20028050
means to an end seems nice, at least my death meant something. i hate being hated.

>> No.20028259

>>20027322
>women

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>>20028050
obviously the first one, mostly because of what I've written. and not just one person but a giant torchwielding mob like picrel, with pitchforks and shit

>> No.20028298

>>20027955
>>20027959
I'd fuck her

>> No.20028331

Everything is just so stupid. I spend so of my day on silly stupid things. I don't even think it's evil, it's just so stupid.

>> No.20028385

I'm realising now that people have traditionally had an illusion of me that I am beginning to destroy. It doesn't feel good. It feels like people are starting to realise how pathetic I am.

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>>20025616
>I mean, objectively, your race is an extension of you. Your personal values are downstream of your biology, so your values have the best chance of surviving into the future if your race survives into the future. You may not care about this, of course. Many don't.

Race is skin deep bro
His nationality, religion, ideology, culture, upbringing, life experience and personality matter INFINITELY more in shaping his life, words, actions and thoughts, than ... uhh.. melanin in skin and skull shape?

Why do people think that racism makes any sense?

>> No.20028390

>>20026770
Self-hatred, despair and suicidal thoughts

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>>20028388
>88
The irony. Ah, it's so great.

>> No.20028398

>>20027147
Tomorrow I'll be 24 and a month old. I didn't see this month pass, I just closed my eyes for a second and it was gone, wasted forever

>> No.20028400

>>20027759
>>20027762
best advice of this thread so far

>> No.20028419

Killed a particularly bloody mosquito. Looking at the blood I remembered that it was the gay mardi gras last night and the concern that it could be aids blood causes me to rush to wash my hands.

>> No.20028602

>>20026770
canned pork liver and fish

>> No.20028640

In the Little Prince, I read the sentence: "What makes something beautiful is invisible". I don't know if that sentence is true. But I think that if I take it seriously, my way of looking at things will change curiously. Sometimes it is not important whether a sentence is true, but whether we take it seriously. In Rilke's letters to a young poet, I read the sentence: "Everything serious is heavy, and everything is serious".

>> No.20028648

No matter how much I eat, hunger returns. No matter how much I drink, thirst returns. No matter how much I sleep, tiredness returns. No matter how much I seek gratification, lust returns. The will to life in me is bottomless and inexhaustible. Yet I am exhausted. I am surfeit with sensation.

>> No.20028656

big dicks will rule the world

>> No.20028744

What Plato never predicted was man made aware of his cave's nature forced to live in it for all his waking life.

>> No.20028757

>>20026758
I have a theory that homosexuals and other riff raff cling to ideals that damage their home country because they have no stake in its future and misery loves company so they do anything in their power to end its existence.

>> No.20028805

>>20028757
Shitin is just a loaded delusional ex spy stuck in other reality high off power that's about it

>> No.20028851

Any femanon want to be my gf

>> No.20028855

>>20026982
Its just a matter of frequency. How often do people die in Africa? Can you really make a big news story out of a daily occurence? American media totally stopped reporting islamic stabbing attacks in europe because it happens so frequently now.

>> No.20028875

>>20027430
Fuck off we're full

>> No.20028887

>>20028648
13 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

>> No.20028889

>>20028851
Uno reverse you're MY gf now.

>> No.20028893

>>20028889
Uno reverse you're both my GFs now.

>> No.20028908

Today I watched Angst (1983)
>https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0165623/
It was Austrian Psycho before BEE even published his book.
It’s great, the camerawork is disorienting and nauseating as a visual metaphor of the sociopath’s unhinges mental state, the music is foreboding organ music, and the violence is disturbingly realistic, none of that flashy shit, just messy and incompetent murder.
If you liked Haneke’s Funny Games (which takes inspiration from this film) you’ll like Angst

>> No.20028930

>>20027696
Universities and big corporations are castles; everyone outside their walls are serfs, it doesn't matter what philosophies do or don't pass through their heads as long as they keep shoveling

>> No.20028945

>>20027761
>Isn't Trader Joes for rich people just like Whole Foods?
Not exactly on that high of a level; I haven't been in a very while, but as far as I remember it's where the highest with quality good foods meets the lowest prices, like reasonably priced whole foods maybe. Also don't know if they still do but $2 bottle of wines; not like that weird gas station sugar drink wine stuff either; California being big wine country, I guess they would take a bunch of extra grapes and use it to make these 2$ bottles of wine. Really good cheap fresh bread, was the first time I had hummus and brie, fell in love

>> No.20028958

>>20027852
They are all very different; they are all very same.

You are very different from all men; and you are very the same.

Seek the womans that allign with your mutual samesnesses and differences.

>> No.20028996

What do you think about comics?

>> No.20029012

>>20028996
I think they kinda suck but I read them a lot

>> No.20029037

I was an extraverted loud kid in class, constantly making jokes, always witty and creative, but then at some point my consciousness turned inside out and I became quiet, insecure, unfunny. I became a passive observer and I don't know why. Eversince everything I do feels unnatural, forced, artificial and self-aware. I'm amazed at my past self. Maybe I'm wearing too many masks and forgot who I was

>> No.20029047

>>20029012
Why do you read them if you think they suck?

>> No.20029152

>>20029037
Same dude. For 2 years I was the class clown in my literature classes, people used to anticipate me going up to the board because I always answered with some dumb shit that cracked everyone up. Then I got depression and all of this stopped.

It's funny. Back then I had no self-awareness, I was fat and wore the same shitty pants to school everyday, but that lack of awareness was nice. Now I'm hyper-aware of everything and it just makes life worse

>> No.20029199

>>20027755
What do you wish you would’ve done?

>> No.20029271

>>20028958
>Seek the womans that allign with your mutual samesnesses and differences.
I dont think that those kind of women exist. Maybe if I'd be a different, a better person.

>> No.20029289

>>20027696
I thought mass market philosophies ,like stoicism, were the norm in Rome. Not requiring any particular intellectual vigor, but an easily digestible, prepackaged worldview. We basically have that but with politics. Everyone has some superficial political programme memorized which serves as their ethics and telos.

>> No.20029296

>>20027147
Birthdays always fuck me up. I turned 23 in January. December was so agonizing. A had a brief major depressive episode. Happens every year, but this year was particularly bad.

>> No.20029298

>>20027852
you don't need to understand women as a whole, you just need to be able to find one who you can understand.

>> No.20029310

I wish I could just tell people I'm a writer, and share my writing online, without feeling like such a huge, self-promoting faggot.

>> No.20029314

>>20029296
You're A pup. My 40th is coming up in June

>> No.20029328

>>20029289
Stoicism doesn't account for economics, foreign policy, the whole technology vs. ruralist divide, or the size of a state, so that's A lousy comparison

>> No.20029386

>>20029328
It doesn't need to. My argument is that we still have mass market philosophies that people find meaning in. I doubt your average plebian Stoic had any greater depth of knowledge in his philosophy than does your average liberal or conservative in his.

>> No.20029401

>>20026770
I've gotten back into playing videogames to help cope with the fact that I have to staRt trying to work like a normal human being now and need something to do while I get drunk and blow off steam. Been playing PS1/2/3 games and StarCraft and stronghold since it's all I have access to at the moment

>> No.20029414

>>20029037
Same? I think a lot of drugs just made me self aware and I thought I was obnoxious. Turns out my extrovertedness and Witt was the only reason anyone liked me

>> No.20029437

>>20029298
is it even possible?

>> No.20029447

>>20028298
Harriet is not for lewd things anon

>> No.20029478

>>20028887
Lovely , thanks for sharing. Except
>into everlasting life
That would be prolong the bother indefinitely.

>> No.20029522

Got a gf recently after being single till mid twenties, had erection problems at the beginning, took a month to get rid of them and finally be comfortable with sex. Felt pathetic when i kept losing my erection. Quiet challenging desu to fix the issues, happy that the girl was so nice and patient about it. Feels pretty good to have someone.

In the end, it really doesnt take much effort to get a good gf if you really try, are nice and not a total bore. Took me only a few dates and less than a few weeks to find someone i like. Dating apps also have actually really nice girls on them if you know how to use them.

This is an average 5'7 middle-class guy speaking btw, just so you know im not some tall goodlooking chad born with amazing genes and money. Being an incel all has to do with being a coward without personality.

>> No.20029531

>>20029522
Just don't take any shit from her because you feel "grateful." Also she is probably a reformed whore now ready to settle so look into that.

>> No.20029559

>>20029531
No i dont, I actually want to take a break from my job in the close future. She said she wouldnt mind actually providing for me for a while. Plus she is only 21, so a bit too early for the settling down phase to be her reason. She has had some casual partners, but based on her friends and history, nothing that makes me insecure or lose confidence. Pretty sure she is sincere based on her actions. She is a bit too cute though for me, but i guess liking a person works in mysterious ways.

>> No.20029574

>>20029437
Is winning black jack, craps, poker, backgammon, connect 4, battleships, monopoly, chess, go fish, ping pong possible?

>> No.20029581

>>20029522
How did you fix it? Why does it happen? I've always wanted to ask someone who has had it happen to them. Is it only specific kinds of people?

>> No.20029608

>>20028050
Means to an end. We would understand each other.

>> No.20029616

>>20027755
What kind of cake?

>> No.20029619

>>20027755
Happy birthday anon, you never eat cake alone as long as I'm alone with you. I'm going to get a piece of cake today and dedicate it to you.

>> No.20029651

>>20029574
>lucky at cards, unlucky in love
I wish I'd be lucky atleast at cards.

>> No.20029674

>>20026780
What gymnastics does he go through to hold simultaneously both nihilism and the moral realism needed to be anti-capitalist?

>> No.20029677

>>20029522
I had a gf back in high school and I had a similar problem at first. But after being intimate with her a few times, just being in the same room with her was enougj to get me hard. Kind of funny how it works that way

>> No.20029682

>>20029559
>She has had some casual partners,
How many is some? Fuck the bar is set so low

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>>20028908
good movie, the sheer ambience makes it stand out despite the trite serial killer story. i checked out the cinematographer's own short films, the ones that i could find online anyways, they were pretty trippy

>> No.20029703

>>20029651
>>lucky at cards, unlucky in love
>I wish I'd be lucky atleast at cards.
The intended point was; a minimum amount of effort is required to play. To learn the rules of the game. Some commitment and skill is required to win

>> No.20029775

>>20028648
I feel you bro. Sometimes it just feels like I am the puppet of involuntary desires and I'm just along for the ride as they surge through me and as they pull my strings. My body is merely a shell for willful striving , my self a mirage carried on the withering heat waves of these primal impulses.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu-yegxJde4

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>>20026758
I made very tasty stuffed zucchini for dinner. I still have filling, so tomorrow I'll stuff peppers. Yummy.

>> No.20029882

>>20029199
probably just worked harder and also been around my family more, now that I'm across the country from them I understand how much they mean to me

>>20029616
the chocolate multi-layer one from costco

>>20029619
thanks anon, enjoy your cake

>> No.20029888

The passage of time, it vexes me. —O! —O! —O!

>> No.20029931
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This story just popped into my mind after years after being dormant:

>be me
>working a dead-end bank job
>no one plans on working there long term so the banter is good
>everyone just rips on each other all day in between customers
>unfiltered name calling like 'faggot', sabotaging work equipment, you name it.
>one coworker and another were already good friends before the job
>let's call them Kevin and Josh
>Kevin eventually marries Josh's sister, company policy requires one of them to relocate to another branch
>Kevin, who was relocated, will randomly call and talk shit or prank whoever picks up the phone
>for instance, he'll pretend to be an angry customer or say we lost a huge deposit or some stupid shit
>one day, I get a call and I'm greeted by a harsh, raspy almost satanic voice, "Is Josh available? I need to talk to him."
>I immediately fire back in an exaggerated and mockingly low, gargling voice, "Sure, let me see if he's available"
>put the call on hold and transfer the call to Josh
>A few minutes pass and Josh gets up and walks over
>"I have to drive to the other branch. Patricia, the branch manager, is really sick and needs someone to help cover her shift so she can go home."
>realized what just happened
>mfw

>> No.20029990

>>20027023
Big if true

>> No.20030020

>>20029931
I don't get it

>> No.20030032

>>20030020
He made fun of the boss at another bank being sick. Obviously, it was only a temporary illness, but I think he made a joke to someone he wasn't particularly friendly with, hence the fear of it being taken as harassment, which could be a problem for that there anon. I don't think it was a big deal, but I could see how someone might and how anon could be worried. I wouldn't sweat it, since its been years, but it looks like he now is.

>> No.20030076

The table penholders the book

>> No.20030088

Colorless green ideas sleep furiously

>> No.20030143

It is 5 o’clock on the Sun

>> No.20030183

>>20029931
Is that it or is there a punch line where Kevin was just fucking with you because that's what the set up looks like.

>> No.20030217

>the fetish commission artist has accepted my request
>in fact, he even offered to add some details to it that I hadn't originally though of, which will make it even better
>Constantly checking my inbox for any details on how it's going
>I haven't been this excited in i don't know how long

If only he weren't doing so many at once. Last time he did one for me it took 4 days. But this time I see he has many more he must finish before even starting mine. I may not see it until April

>> No.20030233

I remember wanting to visit NYC as a kid. I read Dinosaurs in New York and listened to Interpol and read magazines about the post punk revival. About the city that never sleeps. It seemed hip and urban. A place where things happened. A haven for artists, businessmen, night crawlers and yuppies. A place where bookstores sell coffee and you can come in from the rain and relax and read. Play chess while making small talk with a stranger, with DMB playing in the background. Where umbrellas get pulled from your hands by strong winds. In a city of three million you're a stranger; in a city of 9 million you're a ghost.

>> No.20030236

trapped in the final stretch of an uninteresting task, unable to justify giving up but no longer interested in completing it.

>> No.20030262

>>20030236
I’m in a similar state. Except there isn’t an end to it.
I will leave it before my end comes.

>> No.20030324

Sacrificing low time investment in this job for higher pay and better benefits in the other.

>> No.20030327

At the fireworks

Whoosh . . . Boom!
Crackle, crackle, crackle.
Ooo! Ah!

Whoosh . . . Boom!
Sqeal, squeal, squeal.
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

>> No.20030344

>>20030327
enjoyable. is this late summer, early autumn? a small town summer fair? light fading, the sky growing dark only to be illuminated with bottle rockets? The second strikes me as more sinister. a carnival of cannibals.

Ray Bradbury Midwest Poster? post another

>> No.20030351

>>20030143
>>20030088
these two upset me. very much. stop.

>> No.20030362

>>20029310
share it here. even if its bad share it.

>> No.20030381

>>20030344
Whoosh... Boom!
Sizzle, sizzle, sizzle.
Oh! Ah! Ooo!

Boom, boom, boom-a-da-boom!
Boom-a-da-boom, boom, boom!
Ooo, ah, oh, ooo, aaaaah!

>> No.20030401

>>20026758
Hello /lit/ please remember to:

Have sex, go to gym, be yourself, seek a therapist , take your meds, meditate, go for walks, learn a trade, learn to code, get off social media, call a friend/family, read, listen to audiobooks, invest, write a journal, write 3 things you are grateful for everyday, make your bed in the morning, leave motivational quotes around the house, walk with your head and chest up and shoulders back, stop playing vidya, sneed, stop eating fast food, stop drinking/smoking/doing drugs, maintain a proper diet, keep a routine, compliment at least 1 stranger per day, travel, volunteer, have hobbies involving members of the opposite sex, limit time on phone/internet (especially pornography), dopamine fast, sleep at least 8 hours a night, drink water, pray the rosary 3x a day, think like a winner :)

>> No.20030403

>>20030381
>>20030327
excellent. want to give a name/pen name for my big book of poems?

>> No.20030407

>>20030403
I go by Kelly Roper

>> No.20030425

>>20030401
>sneed
Most important piece of advice on the list desu

>> No.20030432

>>20030217
Whats the fetish

>> No.20030453

>>20028050
2nd. The first one implies we are enemies. I dont want my enemies to win.

>> No.20030475

>>20029581
Just trying again and again and talking with her about it. How she isnt the problem and about possible solutions and how we could approach it. I figured out that we should try to find the exact point where it happens. And told her about it. For me, we/I figured out it was just as i was about to penetrate her where i kept becoming softer. Probably pressure related. It actually also had to do with her, as she is sort of difficult to get in at the beginning, she only opens up after a while. So that makes it harder, but now I know. But we just kept trying, talking about it, while focusing on that particular moment. Took only two-three weeks. Now I am totally fine and can last very long, with no issues at all. Dont get discouraged if it ever happens to one of you anons. Just talk and try again and again, dont neglect it, i feel like sometimes you get the hidden desire to stop trying, because you feel so pathetic. But thats the worst, im positive about that.

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>>20027147
Turned 25 last month. It only gets worse.

>> No.20030496

>>20030476
i know that feel. turned 28 last month. silver in my hair. ache in my knees.

>> No.20030498

holy FUCKING shit,
1. I'm insane
2. I just don't give a fuck
3. I still don't give a fuck
4. Fuck you
5. I am God
6. I am just a biological organism
7. I am ensouled
8. Nothing is true
9. I have discovered absolute truth
10. The universe is a gigantic gyroscope made of infinitely many triangles

>> No.20030501

Nothing is more intellectually humbling than re-reading AFTER reading Plotinus because it makes you feel like a retard for missing literally 90% of what he was saying

>> No.20030507

>>20030476
You’re pushing it, late bloomer. Learn to live or just kys already. You have four years.
Read some Epicurus and Alan Watts or something.
And throw those stupid pictures out. You’re not a child anymore. Learn to act like a mature adult, but an inspired child.

Why do I keep coming back here? Blah.

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>>20030501
>than re-reading AFTER
than re-reading plato after

>> No.20030525

>>20026770
None. Everything feels like a chore. All my life, all pieces of media I knew were underwhelming and didn't move me as much as I'd like to. Maybe this is the normal and I heightened the standard of enjoyment on accident, making myself not enjoy anything from that moment onward

>> No.20030536

>>20030032
>>20030020
>>20030183

Looks like I need to work on my story telling skills. For me, I just try to imagine myself in Patricia's position. You're having a shitty day because you're sick and you call for help. As soon as you get on the phone, some random stranger starts mocking you for having a sickly voice. From my perspective, I just mocked someone directly and I feel like a total asshole. Thanks for the feedback.

>> No.20030540

If I stay I'll die/ if I run, I'll never stop/

>> No.20030571

we assume the will's responsibility for itself based on the fact that it exists, and the presence of guilt. but this latter feeling is not necessarily rational. Additionally, it seems one cannot climb any higher than to recognize merely that the will is; we can climb no further than this, and any attempt leads to tautologies and so on. So if we cannot observe within ourselves the will as self cause as distinct from simply existing, is it fair to say we may only observe the will as appearance(assuming the self-cause exists foe will)? Forgetting causality and assuming the self-cause to occur simultaneously and inseparably from the existence of will itself, we seem to be capable of recognizing this process as the mere existence of will. And so the self-cause and really free will must exist as a transcendent process which we cannot recognize, it it does exist. But if we are confined intellectually to the will as appearance, and can make so distinction in our self-observations between the mere existence of will and will as self-cause, would it not be extremely peculiar or even contradictory that we possess this freedom but cannot fathom it? If existence and self-cause are identical free acts, from whence comes the source of our philosophical confusion? If an act is free, does this not require it to be deliberate and therefore understandable? If everything, or even one iota, of our being was totally free and accountable, we should encounter no tautologies or roadblocks in providing a full intellectual accounting for them.

>> No.20030583

>>20030571
*we seem to be incapable of recognizing this process as distinct from the mere existence of will

>> No.20030586
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YOU ARE A GOD AND NEVER HAVE I HEARD ANYTHING MORE DIVINE

>> No.20030589

>>20030501
90% of what Plato was saying?

>> No.20030594

>>20030589
yes

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>>20030571

>> No.20030600

>>20030594
I'll have to read him then because I felt like I only understood Plato on a surface level

>> No.20030609

>>20030600
I just try to speed read all books. I don't care if I understand. Only that I read it fast enough to brag about.

>> No.20030615

>>20030598
tldr

>> No.20030626

>>20027144
has daughter who gets ploughed by the nog, confirmed

>> No.20030645

>>20030571
yes yes, those Schopenhauers and Kants for all their defining of the limits of mind never had the balls to recognize that unless you assume something transcendent to mind or will or whatever it is we can have knowledge of, then existence itself is just a house built on a foundation of thin air. In fact, it's quite easy to gain knowledge about a ding an sach by simply looking at what mind needs for itself to be complete and for reality and existence to be explained, like determining that the missing part of a fabric is a circle because the whole is circular. The Will and the Representations of mind are nothing on themselves until something that transcends them acts as a ground for Being itself. The philosophers before the germans spent their whole lives defining this transcendent ground, and then the germans like little children only saw the hole and not the shape it was in and declared the shape unknowable.
>>20030600
i'll be honest I even made claims on this board about how plato is actually simplistic and the neoplatonists made most of their crap about the one and intellect up, but now after reading plotinus and returning to timaeus and the republic I see how most of the philosophically complex neoplatonic doctrines that would seem too far advanced to be present since plato actually are contained in Plato... Plotinus himself is worth reading but it's probably also worth reading him just to read Plato because he is basically a guy who spent his whole life studying plato and learning from other people who spent their whole lives studying plato like ammonius saccas, so anything you will glean from Plato is like what a high schooler will glean from a textbook on quantum physics compared to a phd in the field

>> No.20030653

>>20030615
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ulric_Tse#Philosophy_of_neuroscience

>> No.20030716

>>20030598
>>20030653
i don't see how the core of the question is addressed. there is still an unknowable basis for existence itself, which I can hardly see how neuroscience alone could answer. How could you not eventually run up against a "given" requiring a transcendent explanation?

>> No.20030848

>>20030571
>>20030645
so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche_and_free_will
is right? What would Hegel say to this?

>> No.20030914

>>20030848
No, classic case of not seeing the forest for the trees. Refuted by "emergence".

>> No.20030921

>>20030716
>>20030571
There are particular ways in which energies and matters established as a particular item of items amidst a particular dynamic system of energies and matters, maintains it's itemness sufficiently over a span of time, and inside this particular itemness, the energies and matters operate in such a way that outside information enters inside the particular itemness, and the particular inner systems of energies and matters of the particular itemness """experience""" the energies and material information that enters it, and eventually these system mechanisms of internal energies and matters, experience themselves experiencing, and their experiencing of experiencing, experiencing external and internal information colliding with their information receptorness, can to degrees control energies and matters of this internal system of energies and matters and informations systems mechanisms, and so as energies and matters must in the head be moved so that the legs move, energies and matters in the head must move so that the energies and matters in the head may move.

>> No.20030934

>>20030432
Forced saliva swallowing from at least one other party

>> No.20031008

Everything is a blur and everything comes at once. The stress is building. Too many responsibilities and no way to attend to them. I can see no way out.

>> No.20031017
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20031017

the jar of peanut butter sitting on my counter is lookin mighty pretty right about now. yeah im about two beers away from poppin it open, unzippin my barndoor, and turnin that chunky PB into extra creamy if ya catch my drift!

>> No.20031071

i wish i fit in

>> No.20031094
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20031094

i still think this is one of the greatest memes

>> No.20031096

>>20030914
>>20030921
can either of these explain existence itself, and why the essential elements of the system are thus and not some other way?

>> No.20031099

>>20028744
Didn't he kind of address that when he said you'd be laughed at if you went back in?
>>20029310
You should just do it. Because if you don't some lesser hack like me might steal your thunder.
>>20029522
I was in that exact same situation. And since I became single I've had the same problem reemerge with flings... wish girls were horny in the morning
>>20031071
In in with which people though?

>> No.20031102
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20031102

>>20030921
This you? Bugger off kike, I grew out of those ideas when I was 12

>> No.20031114

>>20031096
No. Faith is required.

>> No.20031131

>>20031114
Kek retard
>>20031096
I’m working on it. But it requires both math, physics and speculative philosophy plus a new metaphysics

>> No.20031145

>>20031131
well I wish you the best

>> No.20031154

>>20031131
So you can prove the simulation hypothesis false?

>> No.20031158

>>20030921
Our body is a mech suit controled by a little man; the little man is formed by the outer energies and matters and information of the world entering our head, and massaging the inner energies and matters systems and mechanisms into a little man, that that little man knows it's controling the bigger body;

If the little man wants to lift the big body leg, the little man lifts it's little leg, and s series of hydrolic like presses, levers and pullies, makes the big leg lift up.

There is constant back and forth, of many kinds of energies and matters of many qualities and characteristics, from many angles, at many velocities and frequencies, which interact with the internal energy and matters systems mechanisms differently;

This constant back and forth is; the external into the internal, into the little man, the little man processing the energies and matters and informations, the internal into the little man, the little man into the internal, the little man into the external, the internal into the external, the external into the internal, the internal into the external, the external into the internal, the internal into the external, the external into the internal;

Many ways, many types, many scales, many energies, many matters, many informations, many directions, many locations, a second, continously, non stop

>> No.20031175
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20031175

Describe your job in 3 words.

>> No.20031180

>>20031094
>i still think this is one of the greatest memes
Someone should start a meme museum; I know there is know your meme, which Is a great archive, but you need someone like yourself to pick from the top of the tops, to really unite the best of the best memes, even seperating in galleires my style, can be digital museum in thd keys verse or just website,

Also I guess this is kind of what Twitter Instagram meme accounts do.

But would be cool to see them in digital gallery mode

>> No.20031191

>>20031175
smoke weed everyday

>> No.20031195

>>20031180
i emphatically agree
much of the best artful expression of our generation has been "memes"
i always regret not saving/curating an incredible meme library. i've literally lurked this shit hole since '07. if i had had half a mind i'd have an incredible collection and could do ... something with it? at the very least, share it.
i still think the evolution of advice dog to the various spin offs (courage wolf, depression dog, FBF, and then it really took off from there) was absolutely seminal in meme-ology, and seeing an exhibit about that progression would be awesome

>> No.20031196

>>20031175
neet

>> No.20031200

>>20031175
i'm unemployed. considering suicide.

>> No.20031207

Just writing this to get it out of my chest.
I love writing and have been doing it consistently for three years now. When the pandemic hit, I decided to put up a patreon to see if I could make some money out of something I was already doing. It worked relatively well, and I'm still doing it now. I want to be able to write for a living, but now that I'm thinking like this I'm plagued by doubts. I'm finishing a book I don't like just to be done with it once and for all, but it's difficult to find the words to even end it. I'm wondering what to write next, and while I have two ideas I keep asking myself, what will people like more? Which story will help me make more money? And it's not that I want to be rich. I just want to earn enough to pay for food and bills, maybe save some. I wish I could be one of those people who does whatever the fuck they want and things just work out, but that's not how things are, not for me and not for the majority of people. I'd still write if i wasn't making money, little as it is, but I can't help but focus on the numbers. How many people are reading? How many people click the stupid like button? How many people will cancel their subscriptions if they don't like the next chapter?
I'm frustrated and anxious. I don't know what to do next and I'm afraid the wrong decision will lead me to waste another year.

>> No.20031220

>>20031175
I have several duties, some of which fit that criteria, but get paid pretty much minimum for it, so I’m putting them all together and saying it’s bullshit

>> No.20031226

>>20031207
post brief story ideas

>> No.20031275

>>20031226
2 drim walk toward ech other and fall back in ine between them a horse comes and shoots them with a sword that shoots beams of light (good) then a hat rolls in and catches them on fire by expulsion grenades till they both wink in bed frome xhaustion before mightnight on the sun at 12 in the mornin for breakfast eating eggs and cheese on fried toast before breakfast till the garbage man comes and serves them trash for being rude customers to satna on Christmas Eve the night Santa died from exhausting twelves buillets into a dog that he hated for being black like the racist dog anyway for treason the man goit hung and upsdie down he fell to the ground and bled out from pooping too hard the hardness of the popp chased his magazine away before terminites on hte moon games stop before you bought the ads for tv that tell you to buy stocks at the game stop hq where rice can breathe and trees can swim calpping their hands tat the magnanaimous display from god before winnter lo

>> No.20031288

>>20031175
The real question is, in three words or even two-hundred explain to me in practical terms how I can get one of those bullshit jobs?
I'll be a Computational Value-Chain Disruption Analyst or I will be the Strategic Earned Communications Capabilities Officer if you fucking show me that sweet sweet 6 figure bullshit money!

>> No.20031290

>>20031275
bud I think you are having a stroke. call 911.

>> No.20031292

>>20031196
That's 6 words.

>> No.20031304

>>20031154
Yes

>> No.20031305

>>20031226
Small chance I might give myself outand it's also embarrassing, but here I go.I write mostly story-driven smut though.
>A new high school teacher at a shitty public school hates his job but is still responsible enough to try to help his students. With the help of a magical device that makes people see him as trustworthy (and his own efforts) he begins to help the students find their own paths in life.
>A high school student with severe social anxiety is possessed by a spirit that feeds on sex, forcing him to become more sociable or die from stavation.
>With a smilar premise as the one before. A dude in huge debt due to getting his sister through college gets possesed by a spirit, and he decides to use his newfound prowess to make money as a porn actor.

>> No.20031332

>>20031305
Not my kind of jam, cant really offer useful advice. I'd do the second one and just make the whole thing unbearably neet like where he fails in the end and dies.

>> No.20031334
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20031334

The question was never "what should I do with my life?" as I always was very clear on that. But the question has always been "how should I go about doing that?"
However now the question has become "is there a better way of asking 'how should I go about doing that'?"

>> No.20031338

>>20031292
i could sum it up more succinctly by just calling myself retarded

>> No.20031339

>>20031332
No worries. Wasn't expecting advice. Thanks for giving a damn, though. Enough to ask, at least. Really.

>> No.20031352

>>20031334
What is asking if not a human construct? Philosophy is always the answer.

>> No.20031353

It's all very tiring but I'm still trying. Understanding how I could be of service to others helped a lot. I think about her a lot, she's my rock. Taking this trip will do a lot for me. I'm being cringe but that's based.

>> No.20031367

>>20031352
I don't think philosophy answers the question of "how do I make it easy for Sales Agents to successfully presale territorial rights to my as of yet unmade project to broadcasters in international territories" and "how to get interviews with celebrities on obscure subjects such that you can build professional cachet for yourself and to elicit further interest of other celebrities in your project" or did I miss that short essay by Schopie?

>> No.20031378

>>20031175
I sell crack

>> No.20031392

>>20031305
>>A new high school teacher at a shitty public school hates his job but is still responsible enough to try to help his students. With the help of a magical device that makes people see him as trustworthy (and his own efforts) he begins to help the students find their own paths in life.
The magical device needs to have a bad side. Right now it's too deus ex machina: he gets the device, good things happen. There's no uncertainty about how the story will end, which conflict or a point of choice could provide
>A high school student with severe social anxiety is possessed by a spirit that feeds on sex, forcing him to become more sociable or die from stavation.
Better because obviously the pain of social anxiety means there's conflict
> A dude in huge debt due to getting his sister through college gets possesed by a spirit, and he decides to use his newfound prowess to make money as a porn actor.
...but when his sister finds out she decides that she will go into porn herself after realizing the incredible sacrifice her brother has made. He must stop her, but is prevented from doing so by possession. yadda yadda yadda

>> No.20031400

>>20026758
I dreamt of her again. It was a strange dream, as most dreams are I'd assume. When I woke, alone, the sense of softness and comfort dissolved and I was overcome with an uncontrollably profound despair. It's been years. I still have no interest in women outside of her.
Was I hexxed?

>> No.20031401

All the difficulties of life are worth it if it means being able to eat Japanese cuisine when you want

>> No.20031420

>>20030934
Thats sexy desu. Kate Mara and Elliot Page starred in a movie featuring that

>> No.20031424

>>20031401
Sushi rolls and reign energy drinks keep my orgon levels from crashing

>> No.20031426

>>20031175
I carry toolbags

>> No.20031440

>>20031175
I harvest organs

>> No.20031451

Am the only person here with an actual job?

>> No.20031453

>>20031175
I fuck up

>> No.20031459

>>20031175
Observational health researcher
Just because it can be described in three words doesn't mean it's not bullshit

>> No.20031460

I'm thinking of becoming a cook or a baker

>> No.20031507

>>20031453
I fuck

>> No.20031513

>>20031451
I was employed last year but my company started forcing the mask mandate and well I have legit diagnosed autism and well you put two and two together

>> No.20031544

>>20031400
i know that feel. find an escort.

>> No.20031548

>>20031513
You couldn't read facial expressions and had a sperg fit?

>> No.20031560

>>20031400
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limerence

>> No.20031578

>>20031175
permanently involuntarily unemployed

>> No.20031586

>>20031578
>involuntarily
Elaborate

>> No.20031602

We live in a dystopia, you can feel the pressure from everywhere. Things will come to a collapse soon, violent like it always is. The system simply cannot exist as it is now and everyone can see the decadence, the poverty, crimes, moral decay and the cynism.

>> No.20031604

>>20030507
>Learn to live or just kys already. You have four years.
That's actually what I've been contemplating for some time. Why exactly four years though? Nevertheless, I think I'll chose life for now. I knew about Epicurus already, but thank you for reminding me about Watts. Will check him out.

>Why do I keep coming back here? Blah.
Hmm, guess we're here forever.

>> No.20031607

Dont meet your heroes

>> No.20031608

>>20031607
jokes on you, I don't meet anyone

>> No.20031709

Imagine being the person who has to go "Yeah I was born and raised in Gaylord, Michigan" every time someone asks you where you're from.

>> No.20031750

>>20031607
They're all dead.

>> No.20031752

>>20031607
I am my own hero and yet I am estranged from myself

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>>20031709
Pee Pee, Ohio.

>> No.20031785

>>20031709
>>20031765
Sneedville. Tennessee.
formerly Chucksville

>> No.20031877

>>20027085
A blank page has no potential at the hands of a unpracticed writer. Apply this thought process to any activity -- especially fitness. I should never____, because the possibly of what could be may not match the reality of what actually is. Or, I should never run a marathon because what if I'm slower then I thought.
>A page full of shit will only disappoint you, possibly anger you
And this is not part of creation? Has there ever been a significant piece of art that was a first draft, that didn't come out of real struggle and determination? What is potential without release? Stop masturbating, coward.

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>>20031765
>>20031785

>> No.20031901

>>20031544
Have considered it.
>>20031560
>Intrusive thinking and fantasy
>Fear of rejection
>Hope
>Loneliness
Probable

>> No.20032006

Lovecraft is good. Lovecraft is life.

>> No.20032103

>>20032006
N

>> No.20032144

Are dating apps/websites the only way to meet women now?

>> No.20032151

All politics is political theology

>> No.20032153

>>20031765
Shit that's near me

>> No.20032159

>>20031548
No. Dumbass. Masks are claustrophobic. Think before you type some retarded shit next time

>> No.20032166

>>20031180
>>20031195

Absolutely agree.
I always think of memes as new medieval Christian icons.
Every little detail in an icon is a symbol to transmit rapidly and visually the most possible amount of theological/doctrinary information with as little rational elaboration as possible. Memes work the same way.

>> No.20032171

>>20032159
He's having another sperg fit

>> No.20032327

Thank you guys for coming to my edition of WWOYM. Its been a pleasure hosting you all and I hope you had a good time. I'll see you guys in the next one.

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I must read more about synchronicity and frequency illusions less than 24 hours after posting this >>20026828 and not acting on it. One of those girls texted me!

>> No.20032333

>>20026758
Why are /mu/ jannies so sensitive?

>> No.20032340

>>20032171
Sure thing, pal.

>> No.20032346

>>20031513
Sorry to hear buddy, I got into some pretty weird encounters because of the mask shit but luckily I was able to dodge it at my fake job.

Wearing that shit gave me so many sinus infections. We weren't meant to be breathing in our moist muggy hot air for 10 hours straight.

>> No.20032350

help

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>>20032327
>Oi let's kick on to another thread. My roomate is out of town this weekend so you can all come over to mine, and someone can crash on his bed, we got a Divan too in the main room. Only problem is the neighbors are really lame so keep the existential sperg outs to a low volume. Does anyone need the address?

>> No.20032388

I lie asleep every night.

>> No.20032389

>>20032350
https://youtu.be/O-4PWf5g7iU

>> No.20032484

>>20032144
Would it hurt to try them,?

>> No.20032525

new thread.

>>20032522

>> No.20032562

New thread
>>20032561
>>20032561

>>20032525
Too soon

>> No.20032575

>>20032562
Why'd you create a second thread knowing a new thread was made?

>> No.20032603

>>20032575
I didn’t. Not till I posted that link above.
Whatever.

>> No.20032604

>>20032603
delete your thread bro, the thread wars shit is really gay

>> No.20032609

>>20032603
So, for 17 minutes, you didn't know a new thread was made, but commented on it? Fuck off.

>> No.20032616

New thread

>>20032588

>> No.20032624

>>20032604
Not waring. Who made the second one?

>>20032609
Unfucking believably early. No comments made besides here

>> No.20032631

>>20032562
>>20032616
>>20032624
Dude why do you always do this? It's really childish. It's a fucking thread, relax, you don't have to spam 10 new ones because you didn't get "the" perfect post.

>> No.20032633

>>20032624
> Who made the second one?
You. Or are you asking for the third thread?

>> No.20032818

>>20031586
i don't have any interesting personal tragedy, i just get rejected from every job i apply for

>> No.20032823

>>20032631
I went through the trouble of setting one up and this bozo, you? goes ahead to jump the gun again. Now you get all royally pissed. Stop jumping the gun. You got your thread. Relax

>> No.20033970

>>20032484
Yes